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Law Repressing Social Media, Bloggers Now In Effect In Russia

An anonymous reader writes On Friday, Russia implemented a new law that significantly limits its citizens' online free speech. Under this new law, social media sites must "retain user data for at least six months...within the country's boundaries so it can be available for government inspection." Also, "bloggers with at least 3,000 daily readers must register with Roskomnadzor, the regulator that also oversees Russia's main media outlets." This, of course, means that popular bloggers will no longer be able to remain anonymous.

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  1. next... by guygo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    the Berlin Wall goes back up.

    1. Re:next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You mean the Iron Curtain

      And yes.

    2. Re:next... by epyT-R · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Uh what? No, the left wants to increase the size of state. The neocons want to use that state to enforce laws that benefit their corporate benefactors. Of course, there is cross over, too, as democrats have many corporate backers and repubs certainly have ideological tenets they want pushed on the population.

      Too bad neither of them remember what individual liberty is.

    3. Re:next... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whoa, wait a sec. Do you both actually believe that the damage can be blamed on any ONE party?

    4. Re:next... by fustakrakich · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There is only one party. Bickering factions are what we see on the TV. It plays well to a wide audience.

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    5. Re:next... by Karmashock · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Russia's economy is dominated by its energy exports. It can and is largely subsisting on that income.

      If you want to break Russia's economy then you need to give europe an alternative energy source.

      Controversial as it may be, we should probably be advocating hydrologic fracturing in Eastern Europe. If Ukraine and Poland can ween themselves off Russian energy imports and possibly become net exporters to Germany then Russia's economic position will collapse indifferent to whether or not they censor bloggers.

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    6. Re:next... by rtb61 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You live in the world of WTO illusion. Primary resources rich country can pretty much chug along on their own as long as they are patient with catching up. This attitude always leads to outside intervention either through disrupting and fomenting revolution or through direct invasion. The idea being to drive them to borrow illusory capital to buy in mass consumerism products and drive debt in order to strip mine the countries primary resources. Russia is quite simply to powerful to do this hence some constant harassment and prodding is required to drive reaction and then the propaganda campaign can commence.

      Don't want to the hassle with data simply point your .ru address to servers in other countries, although it would likely be wise to avoid US servers and servers in other countries controlled by the US.

      Why are the Russian getting so uptight about social media servers, easy, the US is right into corrupting social media servers in order to forment social unrest, hence the Russians are hard at work attempting to track that activity down and block it as well as tracking down and deporting US agents. The NSA has a pretty big head start by basically hacking the whole world and the whole world now needing to work hard clean that shit out.

      Russia would be better off working on a fairly nasty counter attacking national honey pot network and a massive database flooding and contaminating misinformation campaign, lots and lots of contaminated data, going all over the place, creating false data and data association, massive amounts of it, the idea being to flood the NSA/CIA databases and create false relationships. Tie in some real world actions like minor bank deposits et al and they'll end up chasing reds in everyones beds.

      Best defence is a good offence and it is far better than harassing your own population.

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    7. Re:next... by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This no true scottsman argument is getting tiresome. It seems that whenever someone points to the flaws in communist regimes, someone has to point out how it isn't really communism.

        Well here is the problem with that. Whenever is implimented, it fails to follow pure theory and runs into some authoritarian nightmare because it has to be forced onto people who do not want to settle wigh the less that the theory allows or do extra with no extra reward to make it work.

      Communism simply does not scale outside micro groups dedicated to making it work.it has nothing to do with leaders wrapling themselves up in pretty cloths or hero worship. It has to do with forcing people to accept it. Like it or not, all attempts have snd will continue to devolve into some brutal fascist reality that you can clsim is not communism snd suggest it be tried again.

  2. At least better than many western countries by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    USA retains it forever, no matter what laws are in place.

    1. Re:At least better than many western countries by Noah+Haders · · Score: 2

      dude who are you? why are you posting so many stupid comments on this story? I guess I have to turn off ACs for this article.

    2. Re:At least better than many western countries by DivineKnight · · Score: 4, Funny

      Must be /. night over at 4-chan tonight.

  3. Mr Obama; by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The 80's called and they want to know if you need a foreign policy.

  4. Re:At least the Russians are being upfront by BradMajors · · Score: 5, Informative

    And.... this information collection is legal in Russia, while what the NSA is doing is illegal.

  5. the USSR is back by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    the USSR is back

    1. Re:the USSR is back by gymbrown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I remember as a kid reading the Soviet Union’s constitution giving Soviet citizens more rights than the US. They had a very good constitution and Canada had none. I thought that in Canada, there was no protection similar to our first amendment but Canadians could say, type and publish their thoughts freely. The Soviet union required typewriters to be registered with a typing sample so unauthorized speech wouldn’t contaminate the citizens. Russia is going down the same hole as the Soviet Union and we are following close behind.

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    2. Re:the USSR is back by sumdumass · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If the Soviet's constitution gave the people just one right, it gave more than the US constitution does. That is because the US constiitution does not give or grant rights. It bars government from taking away some of the rights peolle already posess.

      This is a pretty important difference.

  6. Edward Snowden's Plan B? by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 2

    Hmm,

    Edward Snowden's professed mission in life is to enable secure, anonymous internet communications.

    Edward Snowden's visa in Russia has expired.

    Now this.

    Snowden is on thin ice, I think. Where could he possibly go from Russia, except for a dark hole in GitMo?

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    1. Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? by Concerned+Onlooker · · Score: 2

      Wow, you really ARE new around here, aren't you? I'd be OK with you calling it Obama's Torture Chamber if I thought you were just as aware that it was also Bush's Torture Chamber.

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    2. Re:Edward Snowden's Plan B? by sumdumass · · Score: 2

      Anytime a person is in the custody of the state, the state is responsible for their well being.

      This is true if you are in a county detention center, federal prison, state prison, border detention center, or gitmo. There is no somehow about it. It is the same reasoning behind postponing the execution of convicted murderers in order to nurse them back to health before killing them when they become ill on death row.

  7. Re:At least the Russians are being upfront by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Unlike the US/NSA.

    No, the NSA is monitoring social media and bloggers, in Russia they have progressed from just monitoring to repressing them. I'm in no way in favor of what the NSA is doing but there is a difference between watcing bloggers and telling bloggers they have to register if they get a hitcount over 3000 or suffer the consequences, whatever they may be.

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  8. Easy fix by penguinoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    If all the Russian bloggers are just government controlled parrots, just switch to reading foreign blogs.

    Also, you could have a setup where your Russian blogger has only a single reader, a foreigner who re-blogs everything they write (unless Russia doesn't take kindly to being clever like this).

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  9. freedom OF speech? well, of course. by turkeydance · · Score: 4, Interesting

    freedom AFTER speech? not so much.

  10. More details by Arker · · Score: 4, Informative

    This link puts a little meat on the bones, though the story is still sketchy. Seems the law was aimed at 5 or 6 specific bloggers, though probably upwards of 500 could wind up being covered. ISPs not happy with it. Law purports to regulate Russian-language blogging, not limited by geography or physical placement. So a foreigner could theoretically run afoul of it if they publish in Russian (and become popular doing so) while a Russian could write anything they want without worry as long as they do it in another language?

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  11. Re:At least the Russians are being upfront by qpqp · · Score: 3, Informative

    they get a hitcount over 3000

    It's 3000 unique visitors.

    "The draft introduced the definition of a popular blogger as someone whose internet page attracts at least 3,000 readers every day (earlier this week the authorities announced that these should be unique visitors, not just page hits) [...]"

    And

    Individuals who violate the law can be fined between 10,000 and 30,000 rubles (US$285-$855) and in cases when popular blogs are maintained by legal entities fines can reach 500,000 rubles ($14,285)."

    Source: http://rt.com/politics/177248-...
    I'm not saying that I agree with their line, but what was the last ruling on slander or defamation in the US? I think it was more than USD 855.
    Also, after what happened with the US backed NGOs trying to influence public opinion around the former USSR resulting in color revolutions (and, arguably, what's happening in the Ukraine now,) I'd have probably done the same to protect my national interests.

  12. Context by Livius · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not that it makes this kind of policy, but Russia has had authoritarian governments for 500 years. What's the US's excuse?

  13. Re:At least the Russians are being upfront by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 4, Informative

    The Russian law is to expose anonymous bloggers so Putin and his cronies know where to send the assassins when they see someone criticizing them or exposing their corruption. Same as when they had all the dissenting mainstream Russian journalists assassinated. Now Chairman Putin and his friends control the mainstream media, so on to phase 2: online journalists and bloggers. Of course they are thinking that announcing the law might save some money too, by intimidating people into not exposing the Chairman's lies (like the bullshit about Ukrainians needing any outside impetus to oust a corrupt Russian-backed president who syphoned off billions of dollars into his own pocket while sliding deeper into Chairman Putin's pocket).

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  14. bloggers are journalists now by Tom · · Score: 2

    "bloggers with at least 3,000 daily readers must register with Roskomnadzor, the regulator that also oversees Russia's main media outlets."

    Ironically, it also means that bloggers are now treated the same as journalists - isn't that what they've wanted for years? ;-)

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  15. Re:At least the Russians are being upfront by MightyMartian · · Score: 2

    Because all those bloggers critical of President Obama are being rounded up as we speak...

    Russia has a reputation for jailing or even killing critics of Putin or his allies. The last president of the United States accused of that sort of activity against opponents ended up resigning before his inevitable impeachment and conviction. Even in the latest IRS scandal, which may or may not represent targeting of critics by someone in the executive branch, the end result has been quite the opposite to what one would find in Russia.

    The US has no lack of problems, and people in positions of power will always tend towards abusing it. But all in all, it's probably the safest place in the world to speak one's opinion without fear of state persecution.

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