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WHO Declares Ebola Outbreak An International Emergency

mdsolar (1045926) writes with news that, with the Ebola outbreak growing out of control, the WHO has declared an international health emergency. From the article: With cases rapidly mounting in four West African countries, the World Health Organization (WHO) today declared the Ebola outbreak a Public Health Emergency of International Concern (PHEIC), a designation that allows the agency to issue recommendations for travel restrictions but also sends a strong message that more resources need to be mobilized to bring the viral disease under control. ... This is only the third time the health agency has issued a PHEIC declaration since the new International Health Regulations (IHR), a global agreement on the control of diseases, were adopted in 2005. The previous two instances were in 2009, for the H1N1 influenza pandemic, and in May for the resurgence of polio.

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  1. Re:First.... by jriding · · Score: 4, Funny

    Too late to become a prepper?

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  2. Re:First.... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I like preppers, they rarely, if ever, actually understand the consequences of social collapse, and falsely view increased individualism as the primary consequence of major institutional failure.

    They don't consider the social structures that arise in post-governmental situations. The importance of community connectivity increases with importance as rigid social structures fail. You want a local warlord, a gang, a tribe, or some other primitive power structure, if you want to survive in a "lawless" world.

  3. Re:First.... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well, in this case, hundreds of people have already died, but, sure that's "nothing". Nothing is going to happen in the US, thanks in part to large scale international public health planning of exactly this sort.

  4. Re:who? by Z00L00K · · Score: 3, Funny

    They need Doctor Who...

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  5. Unavoidable by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature. ...
    10. Be not a cancer on the earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.

  6. Re:who? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I like that someone modded him up, as if flu vaccines don't substantially lower fatality rate among at-risk populations, such as young children, the elderly, and those with compromised immune systems.

    Just because catching flu doesn't tend to kill healthy adults, they just write-off the rest of the world in the perfect mixture of selfishness and ignorance, all the while acting smugly superior about the conspiracy only they can see.

  7. keep calm everyone.... by ganjadude · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Ebola, while a horrible deadly disease is not the doom and gloom its being made out to be for anyone not living in a 3rd world country., and even for those living in 3rd world countries for that matter. more people die in 1 month from the flu in africa (over 5 K from the last article i saw ) than they die from ebola last year. to put it in prospective, less than 1000 people died from it last year.

    Unless you are literally playing in a sick persons bodily fluids, the risk is almost 0

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    1. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      They haven't ingrained with germ theory since they were toddlers. Their funeral rites often include hand-washing and kissing the deceased.

    2. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Solandri · · Score: 5, Informative

      Unless you are literally playing in a sick persons bodily fluids, the risk is almost 0

      As I said last time this topic came up, the fear is not that Ebola will spread by people playing in each others' bodily fluids. The fear is that it'll spread beyond a containment zone in Africa, then mutate into a form which can be spread through the air. That's what happens to the various strains of flu. It usually starts off in a form which jumps from animals to man via direct contact. That limits it to farmers and people who work directly with animals (e.g. butchers, cooks in restaurants). But then mutates into a form which spreads easily via the air, which is when it becomes a pandemic.

      Of course Ebola is very different from the flu. It may be very difficult or impossible for Ebola to mutate into a form which can survive long enough in water droplets that sick people cough/sneeze into the air. But we don't know that. Given how deadly the disease is (50%-90% fatality rate, vs about 15% for the Spanish Flu that killed more people than WWI), it's a stupid assumption to make. That's why the international health agencies are assuming the worst-case and handling it as if it was going to mutate into something communicable via the air.

    3. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Terrible sanitation, including drinking from the same water supply in which people bathe and defecate? There are few places in the affected region where one can turn on the tap and get municipal water, you know. That's why simply installing hand-washing stations with soap and relatively clean water has routinely made such a huge impact on the spread of Ebola and other gut-wrenching illnesses over there.

      If you're going to be a pedantic ass, you really should make an attempt to have a passing familiarity with the subject.

    4. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Playing with sick people's fluids is the job description of a doctor or nurse.

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    5. Re:keep calm everyone.... by jafac · · Score: 2

      I think this is panic, mainly because experts are afraid of some mythical nightmare scenario where it gets into a large city and overwhelms the medical infrastructure's ability to cope, and it infects millions.

      I think it remains to be seen whether such a scenario would actually play-out that way, or whether other factors would intervene. We've seen situations in history, like Black Plague, and the Spanish Flu, where they did, indeed balloon up beyond anyone's expectations - one wonders whether that will happen with Ebola, which is harder to transmit human-to-human than flu or plague. But I think that health officials don't want to be blamed for any political/social/economic fallout that results. A major African city or region becoming impacted like this would likely bring on war or genocide on a massive scale, because of the general nature of the region. But there are a TON of what-if's in these assumptions. It really just comes down to nervous officials, IMO.

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    6. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

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      I represent Reynolds Consumer Products, LLC. I believe we have a wide array of products you may be interested in. You may find our Heavy Duty foil especially useful.

      Thank you and have a nice day.

    7. Re:keep calm everyone.... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why do you invent bullshit, like this: The fear is that it'll spread beyond a containment zone in Africa, then mutate into a form which can be spread through the air.
      That is your fear because you have no clue.
      Why don't you ... for fuck sake ... if it concerns you so much that you even fear it, read a few articles about Flu and another few articles about Ebola?

      It is completely impossible. Ebola is a Filovirus, Flu is a Orthomyxoviridae. The most important difference is, Flu has a 'hull' around its genome. Ebola is a blank RNA strand without any protection.

      Regardless how it mutates it will always die in seconds or minutes outside of s human body.

      I really don't get why people like you spread such a nonsense fear. You are payed by some pharma lobby planning to sell the upcoming vaccines/treatments?

      WTF, the knowledge how this stuff works is not rocket science (and even rocket science is a rather simple topic) ... can't be so hard to simply read about it.

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    8. Re:keep calm everyone.... by linebackn · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ebola, while a horrible deadly disease is not the doom and gloom its being made out to be

      You wouldn't know that listening to the idiotic TV news. They seriously have been playing it as if everyone in the US is at grave risk of dropping dead from this.

      The threats made against that second infected doctor being brought back to the US were almost certainly a direct result of the media's irresponsible reporting.

      Despite all their condescending scaremongering, there is simply zero realistic risk to the US general public.

    9. Re:keep calm everyone.... by gstoddart · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Setting aside the specific mechanics of the virus ...

      Are you making the claim there is no way that Ebola could mutate into something which could spread more readily than it does now?

      I'm pretty sure there's probably more people currently infected than at any point in history -- because historically it's spread in a small community and then died out, no?

      Having is spread further outside of Africa doesn't seem all that impossible -- what with modern air travel and the like, you could end up with a huge amount of infected people.

      Whether or not it could become purely airborne, it could still spread much further than it ever has, and, it can still mutate and do whatever these things do when that happens.

      Hemorrhagic fevers are scary, because who wants to bleed to death through every orifice in your body as your organs turn to goo?

      Regardless how it mutates it will always die in seconds or minutes outside of s human body.

      And, you can say with 100% certainty it could never either mutate into something which can exceed these constraints, or cross mojonate with something which can? Like a hemorrhagic flu?

      You can rule out every conceivable and fanciful mechanism with absolute certainty?

      Or, can you say it hasn't happened yet?

      These are actual honest questions, because I know fsck all about epidemiology ... I just also know that the things which want to kill us have a remarkable tendency to become much harder to kill.

      And people who say "that could never happen" have been wrong in the past. Quite often, actually.

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    10. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      You're wrong. Like, really wrong. Ebola isn't a blank RNA strand (ignoring the fact that "blank RNA" doesn't make any sense - in order for it to be RNA, it has to have bases in it, which means it encodes information; you meant bare, probably, but even that is wrong). It has a protein-based envelope around it, as well as a small lipid bilayer. Seriously, that took less than a minute to look up. If it was just RNA, the normal RNAses in your body would make it a non-issue.

      I also really enjoy how you make fun of someone for not reading about it when you clearly didn't do any research.

    11. Re:keep calm everyone.... by moke · · Score: 4, Informative

      Ebola Reston is a Filovirus and it is airborne (deadly to monkeys but harmless to humans), so it's not that far fetched.

    12. Re:keep calm everyone.... by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 2

      Actually the problem with people panicking is they tend to do the stupidest possible thing en masse. Ebola infection in a city - quick, cram on the buses and flee! Congregate in public places to stockpile supplies! Like 90% of the things people would try are the exact things which turn a mild, containable outbreak into a large one.

  8. Re:who? by linearZ · · Score: 2

    The same bunch, who profited massively from selling "flu vaccines" by stirring up a flu panic.

    Still waiting for that Ebola vaccine....

    This is nonsense. The WHO doesn't sell flu vaccines. It does purchase and distribute vaccines to places that can't afford them. Long live rock.

    Ebola is real if you live in one of the countries in Africa that has and Ebola outbreak. But for most of the rest of the world, "Worldwide Outbreak" sounds a bit like hyperbole. More like "Continent Wide Outbreak". But it is the WHO, not the CHO, so you get what you get.

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  9. Re:First.... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The same thing will happen that happens every other time there's some outbreak "emergency": Nothing.

    That's exactly the goal: ensure that as many people as possible continue to have nothing happen to them, rather than exciting hemorrhagic fever or Quarantine Zone.

  10. E-bola by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

    E-bola is so 1990. it should get with the times and be called iBola. Then everyone would wait in line to get it.

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  11. that's just stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It seems you get your information about preppers from reality TV shows. The actual reality is much different. Take some time to read prepper blogs, they are all about community and tribe.

  12. Plague, Inc. by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 5, Funny

    Am I the only one who views these things differently after playing a few hours of Plague, Inc?

  13. Re:First.... by shadowrat · · Score: 5, Funny

    I like preppers, they rarely, if ever, actually understand the consequences of social collapse, and falsely view increased individualism as the primary consequence of major institutional failure.

    They don't consider the social structures that arise in post-governmental situations. The importance of community connectivity increases with importance as rigid social structures fail. You want a local warlord, a gang, a tribe, or some other primitive power structure, if you want to survive in a "lawless" world.

    Oh sure, grouping up provides an immediate boost to strength, but It'll only last for so long. This australian case study from 1985 http://tinyurl.com/h4otx proved that such a social structure is only as strong as it's weakest link. A stronger individual will always appear in time and take your group apart. It's pretty much proven as the same results were witnessed in 2 previous studies. I hear they are going to run it again. I expect the same outcome.

    Heres a similar sociological study demonstrating the feasibility of individual survival. It's not as targeted at catastrophic social collapse, but i think it's safe to extrapolate. http://tinyurl.com/3xpd3n

  14. Rigged statistics. by goombah99 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    more people die in 1 month from the flu in africa (over 5 K from the last article i saw ) than they die from ebola last year.

    But those people dieing of of the flue are often compromised in some other way, such as old age or malnutrition.

    you might as well say that more people in africa die of old age every day than all ebola deaths combined.

    The reason people fear ebola is that unlike old age, it spreads and attacks the healthy.

    Unless you are literally playing in a sick persons bodily fluids, the risk is almost 0

    the exact same exaggeration is true of flu. You catch flu by being in close proximity to someone with the flu or some a vector that can temporarily support the flu's transmission, just like ebola.

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    1. Re:Rigged statistics. by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think it's more about the fatality rate. 50-90% vs 2-3% for really virulent flu like in 2009.

      Even the spanish flu was about 15%.

      Plus choking isn't nearly as dramatic as bleeding blood out of every orafice and even the skin.

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    2. Re:Rigged statistics. by Daetrin · · Score: 2

      I'm certainly not an epidemiologist, but i'm pretty sure there are fairly strong selective pressures for viruses and bacteria to become less deadly as they spread. In fact there is _some_ evidence that this is already taking place.

      As you say, the death rate is normally between 50 and 90%, but obviously that's comparing different outbreaks, not an average of all infections from Ebola ever. Some past outbreaks have been at the 90% rate but current reports seem to indicate that the death rate for this outbreak is around 60%. It doesn't seem to me that that's a coincidence. Killing anyone you infect quickly and bloodily is not a great long term survival strategy. If a disease kills 90% of the people it infects in a week and there's a mutation that only kills 80% of the people and takes two weeks, that mutation is going to spread a lot more effectively.

      To speak in an anthropomorphic way, every disease "wants" to become the next common cold or flu. Almost everyone catches it sooner or later, but very few of the hosts die statistically speaking.

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  15. You can help out by AndrewBuck · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team (HOT) has been working with WHO, MSF, and Red Cross since the outbreak began in march to map roads and villages in the affected areas. These maps are used by medical teams to move people, medicine, and equipment around, as well as to do "contact tracing" of infected people to see who they might also have infected. The maps are crowdsourced and released under a copyleft license like wikipedia uses. If you want to help out you can check out a task to work on on the HOT task manager and help improve the maps these organizations are using to do their work. There are some instructional videos on the MapGive site run by the US State Department which has donated a bunch of imagery for us to better map the affected areas.

    Please take some time to learn how to help with this mapping and help these doctors do what they need to do.

    -AndrewBuck

    1. Re:You can help out by AndrewBuck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We actually have a wiki page about that exact issue. We have worked on this quite a bit to work out the best way to tag the roads in Africa to handle the huge variety of what they have there. It really makes you appreciate the infrastructure that the developed world has when you see how difficult it would be to travel in these parts of the world.

      -AndrewBuck

    2. Re:You can help out by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 2

      Thanks I will have to check that out, and probably dump a large number of hours into it. At least now I can put my OCDness with maps to good use instead of just mapping way too much of my home town, and trails in northern Minnesota.

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  16. Why is everything gotta do with Israel ? by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4, Insightful

    If you think Israel is evil, okay, that's what you think, but please, this is /., not some Hamas fanboi club

    You wanna talk about Ebola, talk about Ebola. Why the need to drag Israel into this discussion ??

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  17. Re:who? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

    Which is why you're not on a computer right now, but instead trying to secure a future by nakedly chasing down a cow and killing it with your bare hands.

  18. Re:PHEIC sounds like? by ddtmm · · Score: 2

    yes, unfortunate. This has now become now a PHEICal matter.

  19. WHO declares first.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Abbott: You have a disease outbreak in Africa.
    Costello: Then WHO declares it?
    Abbott: Naturally.
    Costello: Naturally.
    Abbott: Now you've got it.
    Costello: The outbreak is declared Naturally.
    Abbott: No, it is declared by Who!
    Costello: Naturally.
    Abbott: Well, that's it—say it that way.
    Costello: That's what I said.
    Abbott: You did not.

  20. Re:The infection the 'right-sizes' the human race by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Ebola has an incubation time of about two to three weeks, after which the symptoms appear. Death follows in two weeks after this, unless the patient survives. The virus can be contagious up to seven weeks after the patient has been cured, depending of the type of contagion.

  21. Re:who? by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    but instead trying to secure a future by nakedly chasing down a cow

    The judge said I wasn't allowed to do that anymore.

    Wait, what? Oh, never mind, forget I said anything.

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  22. Re:First.... by Kjella · · Score: 2

    Post-collapse, sure. During the actual collapse though we'll have tons of people in utter desperation who are short on water, food, firewood and all the basic essentials for survival and has absolutely nothing to lose and who'll totally overwhelm what nature can provide. The first wave of power structures will be all about stealing what other people have, totally unsustainable but sure to cause great grief until they run out of easy targets or run into a bigger pack.

    A good example is nuclear holocaust - it's not about the ones killed directly, after an all-out nuclear war global temperatures would drop 10-35C. Can you imagine the massive crop failures world wide we'd have? Billions would starve. And even if you could grow crops, they'd take months of defending in the field so little would in practice be even less. Game would be wiped out, lakes fished empty, survival today before worrying about tomorrow.

    Preppers expect to survive the initial chaos by bugging out, locking down and basically waiting it out in a bunker for a year or two. Personally I think it sounds like a rather good plan, once the initial dust has settled there'll be plenty of time to come out of hiding and try to find allies and barter supplies. Sure some 1% may be "winners" and warlords and such, but 9% are probably serfs and 90% dead and that's mostly a lottery.

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  23. Re:Madagascar by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2

    This makes me want to move to Madagascar before they lock down their borders.

    Screw that. I'm going to Greenland, and dreaming of large women.

  24. Actual Data by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    For people who want to base opinions/conclusions on actual data, here's one chart of the progression trend as of Aug 8, tracked since beginning of July (data taken directly from WHO):

    http://bl.ocks.org/santanubasu/aa75ada045560ec4f4c8

    Time to move to Prepperville, USA? Not really.
    Global epidemic? Not at this point.
    Getting worse? Yup.
    Tapering off? Maybe, but the most recent data tends to get revised.

    So maybe this will get much worse, maybe it will peter out. Either way, whoever looks at the data will have the best take on what's really happening.

  25. Re:First.... by narcc · · Score: 2

    This will, in fact, increase a prepper's social status since they can a) not be a burden on others in a group b) help others in a group and c) be viewed as intelligent, forward thinking, etc.

    "Just wait until the world as we know it ends! Then they'll HAVE to like me! And, my boss, he'll need to listen to ME for a change!"

  26. Re:First.... by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 2

    Here's the problem: there's a difference between desperate and starving. You can go a long time without food if you were previously well-nourished - upto 3 weeks or so with no real problems. Which means you have a long time to realize you're in trouble, rally your allies etc.

    People think that people turn on each other at the drop of dime - but they don't. The first thing desperate people do is forge alliances they might otherwise not consider, and then go looking for a solution to their common problem. They might eventually fall to infighting, but so goes the entirety of human civilization. We are fundamentally a tribal species, if we weren't then there wouldn't be a civilization to fall in the first place.

    And it's not like this is a particularly difficult benefit to sell to people either: if someone's stockpiled enough food for a year, and there's 10 of you, then you have enough food for over a month if you knock over their hamlet. Heck, you can sell this idea to people who might be morally opposed, because you can leave them enough food for a month, and reasonably expect to knock over another hamlet before that time is up.

    The economics and history support the only sensible conclusion: people who go it alone die out. The Mongol horde wasn't so much a horde as one of the most well-organized and powerful empires for its time, it only seemed like a horde because every village was happy to sell out its neighbors and hope they would be passed over. And the exact same problem applies to survivalists: they think the way they do, because they've misunderstood some very important things about the human condition. Worse, they think they're smarter then everyone else which means they're constantly underestimating potential allies and actual enemies.