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Murder Suspect Asked Siri Where To Hide a Dead Body

An anonymous reader writes A Florida man currently on trial for murder reportedly attempted to use Siri to garner ideas about where to bury the body of his dead roommate. According to police allegations, a University of Florida student named Pedro Bravo murdered his roommate via strangulation in late September of 2012 over a dispute involving Bravo's ex- girlfriend. According to a detective working the case, Bravo subsequently fired up Siri on his iPhone and asked it "I need to hide my roommate."

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  1. Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder why my first thought upon seeing the headline was to assume it happened in Florida.

    1. Re:Shocker by SJHillman · · Score: 3, Funny

      Because Florida Man only lives, works, and commits felonies in Florida. Expecting it to be elsewhere is like expecting to find Batman fighting crime in San Francisco. It's just not going to happen.

    2. Re: Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think that has less to do with fight crime and more to do with San Francisco having met their quota of men in tights sliding down poles with nubile young men.

    3. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because Batman isn't gay. You might find Robin there though.

    4. Re: Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just bat kid

    5. Re:Shocker by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      Batman no; Spiderman maybe. I can remember at least once he was out in LA introducing himself as "your friendly coast-to-coast Spiderman."

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    6. Re:Shocker by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 2

      That's because Batman isn't gay.

      Au contraire, mon frère.

    7. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That only supports that Batman isn't gay and that Robin is.

    8. Re: Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The rest of us thought. "I bet this happened in America"

    9. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He did go to Hong Kong once, though... He caught a criminal who was under the Chinese Gubmint's protection, tossed him into a plane, and somehow managed to get that plane out of Dodge without it being shot down by the aforementioned Gubmint.

    10. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wonder why my first thought upon seeing the headline was to assume it was being misreported by Slashdot.

    11. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My first thought was "are people dumb enough to think this story is real?".

    12. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other than "Florida man", and "University of Florida student", there are absolutely no clues as to this possibly happening in Florida. Why would you have to hide a body? If you murder someone, just say you were standing your ground, and felt "threatened". Make sure that the vic--- er, assailant, is several shades darker or more foreign-looking than you.

    13. Re:Shocker by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      Yeah the only coast-to-coast superhero we allow is Space Ghost.

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    14. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      and somehow managed to get that plane out of Dodge without it being shot down by the aforementioned Gubmint.

      Of course he was able to, he's the goddamned Batman!

    15. Re:Shocker by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because Florida Man only lives, works, and commits felonies in Florida. Expecting it to be elsewhere is like expecting to find Batman fighting crime in San Francisco. It's just not going to happen.

      No, but because only in Florida will a prosecutor think that "evidence" showing somebody was looking for a way to get rid of his room-mate be proof that he would kill somebody who is not his room-mate. It's not just the criminals in Florida that are dumb.

  2. Oh shit! by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    All those old Clippy jokes are becoming reality

  3. The Truth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Siri was cheating on him with the roommate as well.

    1. Re:The Truth by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      Siri could have been more helpful, like suggesting, "I see you're in Florida..."

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    2. Re:The Truth by Austerity+Empowers · · Score: 2, Funny

      "I see you're in Florida, hide the body in plain sight and say you stood your ground."

    3. Re:The Truth by SpzToid · · Score: 1

      This makes perfect sense, because Siri's reply (or best-score) would be calculated as based upon previously successful tasks of a similar nature.

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  4. Gators by amiga3D · · Score: 4, Funny

    Figures it's a UF student. In a state with swamps teeming with alligators he's got to ask his phone what to do with a dead body. This is why a college education costs so much. Trying to teach dumb asses like this anytihing beyond beer chugging has got to cost a fortune. He sounds like a futre CEO.

    1. Re:Gators by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Sad thing about requiring college education whether the job needs it or not. You can fill a moron with facts, but not logic.

      The body of Bravo's roomate was later found in a makeshift grave in a forest close to Bravo's apartment.

      That is stupid.

      Also of note is that investigators determined that Bravo, during the same time frame he asked Siri for advice on where to hide the body, also used a flashlight app nine times. Though circumstantial, the inference is that he used the flashlight on the iPhone to help him see as he disposed of the body.

      Scary how shit like that is tracked in the phone. I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

    2. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he and Hans Reiser can get a startup making body hiding apps going.

    3. Re:Gators by Mishotaki · · Score: 1

      Scary how shit like that is tracked in the phone. I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

      don't worry, the cops are on the way.... damned serial murderers!

    4. Re:Gators by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Scary how shit like that is tracked in the phone. I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

      If the app prints out any debug messages, they'll get stored in the system log until the phone reboots or whatever. That's my guess as to what happened, but who knows.

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    5. Re:Gators by NoKaOi · · Score: 1

      Scary how shit like that is tracked in the phone. I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

      Dunno about the built-in flashlight that's in iOS7 (with Control Center), but the 3rd party flashlight apps tend to have ads. If it has ads, then it's being logged somewhere.

    6. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

      Well no, I don't know what that has to do with a phone, it's just masturba...

      Oh wait, you said flashlight....

    7. Re:Gators by pupsocket · · Score: 5, Funny

      correct spelling: damned Sirial murderers

    8. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The battery info on phones tells you what apps have been using more battery; I wonder if it ends up logging when apps are running as well as part of the data collection for that.

    9. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I live in Gainesville. This is a big local story. It's a tale of Dumb and Dumber. I wonder how the guy got in college.

      1. I had already known he was using an iPhone on Verizon (look out for those pings!), but not until today did I see that delicious story in the Gainesville Sun that it was a Siri-looking screenshot. True or not, it seems to go great into the annals of Siri lore.

      2. What Bravo did close to his apartment was hide the shovel; the burial was in a neighboring county. He didn't go to nice soft ground either: he had trouble digging through limerock.

      3. He didn't bring a flashlight (though he did have three murder weapons prepared). An issue at trial was now much the battery charge went down during the time between when he turned off his phone's radio and when he turned it back on. They figured the murder and burial happened in that interval. If he had used a real flashlight, there would not be such a good trail to him.

      4. He told the whole story to his jail cellmate. The flashlight may have been bright, but Pedro Bravo wasn't.

      At the rate he's going, he'll soon have an address in Starke. That's in another neighboring county, but the reason he'd go there is not that it's close to Gainesville.

    10. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      an app for a flashlight... with ads even. golly gee wiz, beev. how the fuck could i ever live without that? it has to be better than what i got http://amzn.com/B003AZ4QY8

    11. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Figures it's a UF student. In a state with swamps teeming with alligators he's got to ask his phone what to do with a dead body. This is why a college education costs so much. Trying to teach dumb asses like this anytihing beyond beer chugging has got to cost a fortune. He sounds like a futre CEO.

      - Coming from the guy who doesn't bother to use proper punctuation or spell check. Go Gators.

    12. Re:Gators by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      You know, I'm pretty sure any time an app gets launched, a line gets logged to syslog. I don't have a phone with me at the moment, so I can't test to make sure, but I'm pretty sure that happens. Android phones vary in noisiness, depending on the manufacturer and specific version, but they log that stuff to syslog, too

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    13. Re:Gators by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      - Coming from the guy who doesn't bother to use proper punctuation

      Why have you started your reply (which is a sentence fragment, by the way) with superfluous punctuation?

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    14. Re:Gators by JWSmythe · · Score: 2

      I hope it doesn't totally depend on the cellmate providing evidence of what he was told. That's fairly common for a cellmate to come up as a witness to get a reduced sentence. If he has a somewhat competent lawyer, that will get tossed.

      But if he really did ask his phone where to hide a body, and he was really trying to do so, that's just plain dumb.

      I was playing with Google auto-complete a few years ago. When searching "Where to hide a ", the top 3 suggestions were "bong", "tattoo" and "body". 115,000,000 results on "body".

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2yIBjlx3QM.

      If he couldn't find somewhere around Gainesville to hide a body, he's not very bright. The UF mascot and the nickname of the football field should be a couple good hints. Well, it seems murderers aren't always the best and brightest. Otherwise, they would have considered "I would go to jail for the rest of my life" as an unacceptable risk.

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    15. Re:Gators by TapeCutter · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      AFAIK you cannot be convicted on circumstantial evidence alone, you can however be put to death on the unreliable recollections of an eye witness or two, especially if you're black and someone like Rick Perry needs a boost in the polls.

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    16. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?

      No, but using your Fleshlight daily makes you a suspect for rape.

    17. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That sounds like a religious cult of some sort..

    18. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A cellmate saying "he did it!" surely won't fly. But a cellmate reporting stuff that only the killer could know - that is different. Especially if this cellmate was inside when the murder happened.

    19. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      close to his apartment? If 40 miles is close, yeah.

    20. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Failing to consider the consequences of being caught (jail being just one) to be an unacceptable risk is not a sign of stupidity. Nearly every action has potential negative consequences, but that's not sufficient reason to avoid those actions. For example: driving, climbing a ladder, or going on a date. To follow your reasoning, one might believe agoraphobes to be the "best and brightest" we have to offer.

    21. Re:Gators by bughunter · · Score: 2

      If they had a fleshlight app for the iPhone, I'd have to disable my "shake to activate/deactivate" flashlight app. Permanently.

      But at least my compass app would never need to ask for recalibration!

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    22. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Troll

    23. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're a racist.

    24. Re:Gators by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Yeah like a bunch of computer engineers having to look up money laundering in the dictionary.

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    25. Re:Gators by dcw3 · · Score: 1

      You can be convicted, as Scott Peterson was, based only on circumstantial evidence.

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    26. Re: Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Such misandry.

    27. Re:Gators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope it doesn't totally depend on the cellmate providing evidence of what he was told. That's fairly common for a cellmate to come up as a witness to get a reduced sentence.

      Especially in Florida, it commonly gets used to send innocent people to jail.

    28. Re:Gators by nhat11 · · Score: 1

      "Scary how shit like that is tracked in the phone. I use my flashlight daily, wonder if that makes me a suspect for something?" and.... in the end nothing happened to you

  5. To be fair... by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 3, Informative

    It could have been Germany...

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    1. Re:To be fair... by davester666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Real reporters and the jury actually noticed that the accused had an iPhone 4 at the time, which DOES NOT support accessing Siri [unless jailbroken, of which there was no evidence supplied to indicate it was], AND that all the prosecution introduced was a screen-shot of the Siri request.

      You know, the ones that were popular when Siri first was released and Siri would respond with something cute/weird/disturbing to cute/weird/disturbing questions....

      So, I guess he drove to the woods, then fired up his web browser and put in 'Siri, I need to hide my roommate.", then saw the screen shot, saved it to his camera roll, then proceed to ignore the advice in the image with a "Fuck this, I'll just dump him here".

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    2. Re:To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      adam carolla made love-line

    3. Re:To be fair... by retroworks · · Score: 0

      Thanks, and thanks tandis, anubus iv, and exomundo. Slashdot editors can't really be blamed for letting this slide through, as it was reported as such even if the reporter was a UF grad or something. Shows the worst and best of the internet. Worst is someone composes a tweet or thought or joke or stereotype and it's reported as "news" EVERYWHERE. Best is that fellow nerds on /. are essentially acting as background checkers and via internet have the tools to out the hyperbole quickly.

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    4. Re:To be fair... by angel'o'sphere · · Score: 1

      Why should an iPhone 4S be able to use Siri and an iPhone 4 not? I had thaught this only a question of the iOS version?

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    5. Re:To be fair... by davester666 · · Score: 2

      At the time, Apple claimed it needed better microphone/audio hardware than the iPhone 4 had, but that was just bullshit [as it worked fine with jailbroken iPhone 4 and with bluetooth headsets]. They just wanted to keep it for the premium model that year, the iPhone 4S.

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    6. Re:To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's how they sell shit. It's the same damn reason why consoles actually sell...exclusivity.

    7. Re:To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you have ABSOLUTE proof that there is NO technical reason?

      Just because you can hack something to work most of the time, is not proof that there wasn't a non-marketing reason to do it.

    8. Re:To be fair... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't be silly. If it was in Germany it would have been, 'How to cook a human.' or 'I need to cook my roommate'. :-)

  6. Oh now Apple joins the team by thieh · · Score: 3, Interesting

    like Google and Microsoft as the moral police and they are trying to tell us what not to do. I suppose if we ask Siri how to avoid taxes now we probably will end up like Wesley Snipes.

    1. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by thieh · · Score: 0

      The idea that the companies are (rightfully) treating us like idiots is disturbing, perhaps not to you though.

    2. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes because murdering his roommate is not disturbing. Good to see you got your priorities straight.

    3. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by suutar · · Score: 1

      I dunno. Most of the people I know with iphones have asked Siri "where can I hide the bodies" because she has a funny answer (starts looking up quarries, if I recall). Of course, if any of them had become murder suspects shortly thereafter, it could have been a problem, but if Apple reported all of those, the police would probably give up after the first few as a waste of time.

    4. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by EvilSS · · Score: 1

      I dunno. Most of the people I know with iphones have asked Siri "where can I hide the bodies" because she has a funny answer (starts looking up quarries, if I recall). Of course, if any of them had become murder suspects shortly thereafter, it could have been a problem, but if Apple reported all of those, the police would probably give up after the first few as a waste of time.

      Actually I don't think it does this anymore. I was playing with it not long ago and wondered if they had updated any of the old "joke" queries and noticed some of them seemed to be removed and this was one of them. I wonder if this is why. I tried it just now and, of course, Siri appears to be down.

      Also, let this be a record that I was asking this to verify if it still worked or not!.

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    5. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by AK+Marc · · Score: 2

      The idea that companies will respond to search warrants and subpoenas is horrible. Accessory after the fact should be the default position.

    6. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by NoKaOi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The article does not say that Apple contacted law enforcement because he searched on it. The article is sensationalistic click bait. Pretty much every search engine logs what you search on. Whether it's Google, Bing, Yahoo, etc etc etc. Even if it doesn't your browser is probably logging it in the history. Why would you expect Siri to be any different? It's really just a search engine with voice recognition. And, in a murder investigation, it's going to be standard procedure to investigate all of your browsing history and other activity leading up to and after the time of the murder. Nowhere in the article does it say they did any of this without a warrant. When they have lots of probable cause already and the suspect has already been arrested, it's not hard to get warrants to search their whole life to build a case (and if they find exculpatory evidence they are compelled to hand it over to the defense).

      Now, if Apple sent law enforcement notification that said, "look, here's a list of people that searched for suspicious things" that would be an entirely different story. And, if law enforcement tried to get Apple to give them the information without a proper warrant (like if they sent them an NSL) then that would be a different story too. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of instances of corporations and law enforcement being scumbags and violating the constitution, but this doesn't appear to be one of those instances.

    7. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      one thing being bad doesn't negate another being bad, regardless of the severity.

    8. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      If any of them sent law enforcement questionable searches, I'd have daily visitors at my house. :) I like to look for information on how factual elements of TV shows and movies are.

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    9. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by rioki · · Score: 2

      Also, let this be a record that I was asking this to verify if it still worked or not!.

      All the murder suspects say that. Now, where did you hide the bodies?

    10. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by ch0knuti · · Score: 1

      Posting to undo moderation mistake. I accidentally modded troll when I wanted to mod you up. Sorry.

    11. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by JohnJAgricola · · Score: 1

      At least Wesley Snipes hat some funny quotes in the expandables.

    12. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by thieh · · Score: 1
      From the article:

      Though Siri now responds to such queries with a "That's very funny", the software at the time actually responded with the following:

      What kind of place are you looking for? Swamps. Reservoirs. Metal Foundries. Dumps.

      I am saying that the fact that they changed it is implicit that they are telling us what not to do. This is in common with what Google and MS (reporting someone to the authorities is a good way to tell them not to do something) do but not identical.
      If you need a more accurate comparison it is probably the censorship of search engine results in this case. And with this precedent the problem will be other places will start the censorship of search engine results in order to tell you not to do something.

    13. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So your idea of morals is to be immune from court ordered evidence discovery during a murder trial?

      What a hypocrite. You're likely the first to bitch and moan that the courts and police aren't doing enough during the murder trials when your own family gets killed.

      If you really believed murder is moral, why do you live in a first world country posting to slashdot from the comfort of your own home/work? There are already plenty of lawless countries where murder is not a crime, why don't you move there instead of trying to convert our country into a nation of lawlessness?

      We can only pray it happens to people like you who don't mind murderers not being investigated instead of happening to anyone else who considers murder quite immoral.

    14. Re:Oh now Apple joins the team by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Siri, how do I avoid Wesley Snipes?

  7. No, he didn't. by Tanlis · · Score: 5, Informative

    He didn't actually do this. Please do a little research.

    1. Re:No, he didn't. by rebelwarlock · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Alright, why don't you tell us what actually happened? The linked article said he did. Furthermore, that article linked this one, that actually included a screenshot of the Siri query. That in turn linked this one, which also collaborates the story. So tell us, in all your wisdom, what really happened?

    2. Re:No, he didn't. by Rosyna · · Score: 4, Informative

      GAINESVILLE- We're on day 7 of the Pedro Andres Bravo trial. Bravo is being accused of the premeditated murder of his high school friend and UF student, Christian Aguilar. Bravo's phone records were reviewed.

      "I need to hide my roommate," that is a picture found on Pedro Bravo's phone. In the picture you can see Siri responded, "Swamps? Dumps?"

      The image was most likely a screenshot Bravo took from Facebook not an actual search he made. That was actually addressed by the jury who asked how he could do a Siri search when he had an iPhone 4 not 4s.

      It was a screenshot (Shit Siri Says). His iPhone 4 was incapable of asking Siri anything.

      The Gainesville PD also said it never happened.

      https://twitter.com/gainesvill...

      Multiple reports of Bravo asking Siri to hide a roommate are incorrect... GPD Det. Goeckel certainly did not testify to that. #BravoTrial

    3. Re:No, he didn't. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What actually happened is that the police forensically recovered that image from his iPhone 4...which isn't even capable of using Siri, since Siri is exclusive to the 4S and above. The image was apparently from the Facebook cache on his phone. Moreover, contrary to many of the reports, he isn't even the roommate of the victim.

      The reporting on this issue has been rather appalling, and many of us have seen the same or similar screenshots and may have even had them cached on our phones as well, since they were circulating around the Internet back when Siri first came out. I even recall seeing a few YouTube videos making the same joke.

      Whether or not he's guilty, I have no clue, but it's fairly safe to say that he likely didn't use his iPhone 4 to ask Siri anything at all, let alone where to hide his roommate, given that his phone couldn't even use Siri and he wasn't roommate with the guy that needed to be hidden.

    4. Re:No, he didn't. by exomondo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Alright, why don't you tell us what actually happened?

      Alrighty then:

      Under cross examination, however, Detective Matt Goeckel conceded that Bravo had an iPhone 4 which did not have Siri capability and there was no proof that Bravo had asked Siri for suggestions on disposing of a body. The detective said the image on Bravo's phone was a "cached photo."

      The defense also pointed out that Bravo and Aguilar were not roommates.

      http://abcnews.go.com/US/defense-denies-accused-killer-asked-siri/story?id=24958781

    5. Re:No, he didn't. by Rosyna · · Score: 2

      Also, Pedro Bravo was not the roommate of Christian Aguilar.

      But this is /., who needs facts?!

    6. Re:No, he didn't. by Unequivocal · · Score: 1

      Link to save on research: http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/...

    7. Re:No, he didn't. by gTsiros · · Score: 1

      Isn't it possible to sideload siri in an earlier phone model?

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    8. Re:No, he didn't. by BitZtream · · Score: 2

      Yes, he had a screenshot from software that doesn't run on the hardware he owned and held such screenshot.

      I have screenshots of Siri on my Windows virtual machines, does that mean I have siri running on Windows?

      No.

      So tell me, in all your wisdom, why the fuck are you so self righteous when you yourself know pretty much NONE of the facts of a story that was debunked long ago?

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    9. Re:No, he didn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reporting on this issue has been rather appalling, and many of us have seen the same or similar screenshots and may have even had them cached on our phones as well, since they were circulating around the Internet back when Siri first came out. I even recall seeing a few YouTube videos making the same joke.

      Heck I have a friend who used to do stuff like this as part of his stand up comedy routine when Siri was still new. This is tame compared to the things he'd ask it.

    10. Re:No, he didn't. by Striek · · Score: 0

      Never let facts get in the way of a good story.

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    11. Re:No, he didn't. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    12. Re:No, he didn't. by Anubis+IV · · Score: 1

      It is, yup, but I haven't heard anyone mentioning him having jailbroken his device, and given that jailbreaking is pretty rare outside of the tech community, I wouldn't bet that he had done so. If you find out anything to the contrary though, I'd be interested in it.

    13. Re:No, he didn't. by phorm · · Score: 1

      And this to me is a good reason to be scared of the cops. Here they've identified a picture which seems to be implicating the suspect, but actually it's something that anyone might have in their cache from some random post of Facebook. But the jury will eat this up.

      Same thing for those that are nailed as suspected child predators. How hard would it be find some random incriminating picture in a web cache of most people's computer? The banner ads on TPB etc are sometimes pretty suspect.

    14. Re:No, he didn't. by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      "We find the defendant not guilty, your honor, on the grounds that the prosecutor is a dipshit."

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  8. It was a saved screenshot by Bodero · · Score: 5, Informative

    This story has already been debunked. It was a saved screenshot (different cell carrier and all).

    No, Pedro Bravo Didn't Ask Siri Where to Stash His Roommate's Body

    1. Re:It was a saved screenshot by sg_oneill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Yeah "Where do I hide a body" is an old Siri joke from launch. You used to be able to ask her that and she'd give you locations of nearest mineshafts, dumpsters and so on. It was just a bad taste demonstration of the backend search powers.

      I call bunkum on this, and if it IS true, I'd personally want to send a "friend of the court" submission that its a pretty famous joke search and doesnt necessarily prove anything.

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    2. Re:It was a saved screenshot by tlhIngan · · Score: 1

      Yeah "Where do I hide a body" is an old Siri joke from launch. You used to be able to ask her that and she'd give you locations of nearest mineshafts, dumpsters and so on. It was just a bad taste demonstration of the backend search powers.

      Well, anyone asked Google Now and Cortana the same question? I think everyone's been comparing them to Siri for a while now so do they give useful responses?

  9. Slashdot Beta replacing Classic tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm seeing this at the top of my /. page:

    Slashdot will undergo planned maintenance from Thursday August 14, 5-6pm (Eastern Time). slashdot.org and beta.slashdot.org may be limited in functionality or unavailable during that time.

    Does anyone know what that really means? Is it saying that the awful /. Beta site that everybody hates is going live tomorrow, with the Classic site being gone forever, causing many of us to flee and never return?

    1. Re:Slashdot Beta replacing Classic tomorrow? by gargleblast · · Score: 2

      Slashdot will undergo planned maintenance from Thursday August 14, 5-6pm (Eastern Time).

      Does anyone know what that really means?

      I don't know, sorry. But remember, there is always Soylent News.

    2. Re:Slashdot Beta replacing Classic tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't be back if Classic goes away.

    3. Re:Slashdot Beta replacing Classic tomorrow? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty sure some sort of A/B testing was done to make sure the "we hate beta" crowd isn't overly large.

  10. Hilarious. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you murder your roommate and now need help hiding the body?

    There's an App for that!

    1. Re:Hilarious. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      The less you do with a murdered body the better. If in Florida there are always alligators that can solve your problem. Warm humid weather and natural decomposition in a warm humid environment is taking care of a corpse better than trying to burn it. Especially if you have an area with wild carnivorous animals (Alligators, Coyotes, Foxes, Rats...)

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    2. Re:Hilarious. by TapeCutter · · Score: 1

      The body was buried in limestone, it shows some forethought since limerock is hard to dig but will significantly speed up decomposition.

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    3. Re:Hilarious. by pslytely+psycho · · Score: 1

      Actually lime does the opposite, it can preserve bodies. As in the natural Korean mummies. I understand it could reduce the smell however.

      "The novel burial system in tombs with a lime-soil mixture barrier was thereafter adopted increasingly by the ruling elite, and has even influenced the funeral customs of modern Korea (Chung, 1994).

      The medieval mummies in Korea, the subject of the present study, were found exclusively in tombs with a lime-soil mixture barrier."

      http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2100341/

      They have also been found in limestone caves in Peru.

      http://www.mummytombs.com/mummylocator/group/chachapoya.htm

      Perhaps you were thinking of Lye?

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  11. Cortana on the other hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    has first-hand experience with cold-blooded mass murderers.

    R.I.P. legions of covenants

    1. Re:Cortana on the other hand... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It was in self defense. The Covenant was trying to activate the Halo Array, which would have wiped out all sentient life in the galaxy. Totally justified.

  12. Why is the text so tiny? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    /. get tired of people criticizing the spelling and grammar errors?

  13. Really? by PRMan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    EVERYONE has asked Siri this question. It went viral in the first days of Siri. Even my 14 year old daughter has done it and the image is passed around to everyone.

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    1. Re:Really? by biodata · · Score: 1

      This.

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    2. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunnol I asked it *how* to dump your daughter, not *where* to dump your daughter.

    3. Re:Really? by Ian+A.+Shill · · Score: 1
      Did Peter predict that Siri would "deliberately forget" where to hide a body?

      EVERYONE has asked Siri this question. It went viral in the first days of Siri. Even my 14 year old daughter has done it and the image is passed around to everyone.

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  14. Well... by djupedal · · Score: 4, Informative

    Asking Siri where to hide a dead body was one of the first favorite phrases when that service came out. She would recommend bogs, swamps and landfills depending on what was nearest. These days she's not quite that helpful, tho...

  15. how the F does this make it to slashdot? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    http://www.wuft.org/news/2014/08/13/no-pedro-bravo-didnt-ask-siri-where-to-stash-his-roomates-body
    there. end. now somebody fire the submitter.

  16. Good thing I don't take /. articles seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .. because neither do the editors apparently.

  17. Peak Stupid by MrKaos · · Score: 1

    I just keep wondering when we are going to get there.

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  18. More importantly, did "she" answer? by grasshoppa · · Score: 1

    And more relevantly, did her answer involve lye?

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  19. The panopticon keeps closing in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    faster and faster lately. Your email, your cloud drive, you passport photo, your search records. All to catch the REALLY BAD guys, of course. You can't possibly object to that! After all, the US govt has such a GOOD track record.

    Vomit.

  20. Siri says: by MouseTheLuckyDog · · Score: 1

    "I'm sorry Dave I'm afraid I can't do that."

    1. Re:Siri says: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It actually can give a response like that if you ask it to open the pod bay doors. However it apparently also dislikes being asked to open them repeatedly.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAjhDx4yoAA

  21. Honestly... by Greyfox · · Score: 1
    Who hasn't asked Siri that. It's in a ton of "Stupid Siri Tricks" youtube videos. If you ask Siri after a recent software update, she says "I used to know the answer for that." Stupid reporting like this is why we can't have nice things.

    My favorite response she had for that question was "What, again?"

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    1. Re:Honestly... by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

      Who hasn't asked Siri that.

      In this case, the accused. It didn't happen.

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  22. Related Searches by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "Siri, where do I hide a dead body?"
    "Siri, how do I get arrested by the police?"
    "Siri, where can I hire an incompetent but really cheap lawyer?"
    "Siri, how do I get convicted by the jury?"
    "Siri, how do I get the judge to sentence me to death instead of to life in prison?"
    "Siri, when do I collect my Darwin Award?"

  23. No matter where it is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ... stupidity is still stupidity

    What is next ?

    Ask SIRI "Where can I get some free fuck?"

    1. Re:No matter where it is ... by Electricity+Likes+Me · · Score: 3, Informative

      Apparently you can't tell the difference between these two things?

    2. Re:No matter where it is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      stupidity is still stupidity
      What is next ?

      Cupidity?

      In fact, the police have repeatedly stated that the story simply isn't true. The defendant's iPhone 4 does not have Siri, and the screenshots were fabricated.

      In fact it's looking very like the Apple connection is solely intended as a viral marketing stunt. Apple vendors are piggybacking a mundane murder trial with their astroturf in order to sell more iPhones.

      http://www.latimes.com/nation/...

    3. Re:No matter where it is ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fact it's looking very like the Apple connection is solely intended as a viral marketing stunt. Apple vendors are piggybacking a mundane murder trial with their astroturf in order to sell more iPhones.

      Sell more iPhones to would-be murderers? Even though Siri clearly didn't help here. . .

    4. Re:No matter where it is ... by crymeph0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Wow. According to that story, the prosecutor did show a screengrab of an iPhone Siri query for this, but it was actually taken from the Facebook cache on the defendant's phone, meaning it was just a funny picture making the rounds on Facebook. I can't imagine why the judge let him show that, since it proves absolutely nothing, but it is a hell of a way to prejudice the jury against the defendant.

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    5. Re:No matter where it is ... by dowens81625 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't it be better if he had asked ..

      "Siri, how do I get a way with murder?"

      And then have the Jury find him innocent?

    6. Re:No matter where it is ... by CheshireDragon · · Score: 2

      And then have the Jury find him not guilty?

      FTFY

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    7. Re:No matter where it is ... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      In fact it's looking very like the Apple connection is solely intended as a viral marketing stunt. Apple vendors are piggybacking a mundane murder trial with their astroturf in order to sell more iPhones.

      So, let me get this right. This story (fabrication, whatever) implies that Apple users are so fucking retarded as to do something like this, and that Apple VENDORS are using this demonstration of the retardedness of Apple USERS to sell more Apple stuff to those same Apple USERS.

      Now, I've never liked Apple stuff after owning one for a couple of years. But I know that the guy who sold that Apple iWhatever to me (at a good price ; trying for a conversion!) wasn't a retard - I still work with him. So I think this story probably reflects worst on Apple salesmen. I could believe it of them.

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  24. Would you help me hide a body.. the song! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78g0SyQjU1s

  25. another death, there was by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My masterpiece (er, thank you):

    Only beta today and printing has all sorts of ghost boxes and pop-under artifacts OVER the articles. It still remains BETA and very, very broken.

    For the past decade or more I enjoyed SD. For the past few years I would print a daily articles file to read later named "SlashdotYYYYMMDD-daily.pdf". Today that filename was upgraded to Beta as follows: "Slashfart20140813-beta.pdf". I might hang around till the end of August, maybe, maybe not.

    Like Han Solo, "I have a bad feeling about this." I sense my ineterst in SD, wane it will. Print less or not more I shall.

  26. Lots of people ask silly questions like that. by mark-t · · Score: 1

    Heck, I remember when Siri came out, it was kind of a gag where I worked to ask Siri "where do I hide a dead prostitutes body" or some variation thereof, and some of the answers were, of course, hilarious.

  27. Dead Meat by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    In Florida even the stark raving insane are found capable of intent and fit to stand trial. And I am certain that this genius is able to assist in his own defense as well. As far as i can tell any accused person in Florida that can form one or two words is fodder for execution. There may be cases where a person is so far gone that he makes sounds like a pig feeding at a trough and nothing at all intelligible might be found unfit for trial but it must be rare. If they have an IQ of 20 and can breath unassisted and are at least twelve years old Florida has no problems punishing them which we all know corrects their behavior 100% of the time.

    1. Re:Dead Meat by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you aren't that bright if you believe this. You must live in Florida

  28. So? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Asking where to hide a body is about two thirds of all use I've ever observed of people using siri. The rest is an assortment of tell me a joke and flirting with an inanimate object.

  29. Screenshot looks doctored by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

    The screenshot posted in the article shows a question "Where can I hide my roommate". Unlike the joke question "where can I hide a body", there isn't really any indication that there is a dead person involved. More a case of the landlord entering and not knowing that you sublet your apartment and need to hide your roommate. So it is highly unlikely that Siri would give (joke) advice where to hide a dead body.

    Second, Siri doesn't give advice on hiding dead bodies anymore.

    Third, Siri never gave advice including swamps.

    Fourth, while it is conceivable that Apple would have traces of a Siri search somewhere on their servers (but very unlikely, because it doesn't serve any purpose for Apple, is a privacy violation, and can only cause cost by having to serve subpoenas), and slightly more likely that there would be traces of a search on your iPhone, why would there be a screenshot stored on your iPhone that the police can find?

    And fifth, it seems the accused had no iPhone that was capable of using Siri :-) so the whole story is made up.

    1. Re:Screenshot looks doctored by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      No she replies, "what? Again?"

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  30. Insanity plea by marcovje · · Score: 1

    Smart, probably preparing for an insanity defense.

  31. So.. by xettera · · Score: 1

    What was the answer??

  32. I ask siri this all the time. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    In fact a LOT of people ask siri , "where can I hide a dead body" It's one of the funniest Easter eggs siri has."

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  33. /. can't Unicode by tepples · · Score: 1

    It appears to be a way of representing the dash, used to attribute a quotation, with Slashdot's notoriously poor character set support.

  34. Cracked wants YOU by tepples · · Score: 1

    If you're good enough at fact-checking fiction, you can get paid to do it. Visit Cracked.com and look for the "Write for Us" button. With a name like Smythe, you'd be a shoo-in.

    1. Re:Cracked wants YOU by fleabay · · Score: 1

      From a Cracked reader from a bygone era, I doubt the Cracked staff know who Sylvester was. Hell, he was just a janitor.

    2. Re:Cracked wants YOU by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      heh. I'm already in their writers group, I just haven't had time enough to spend writing any articles.

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  35. Nothing wrong with asking by Cro+Magnon · · Score: 1

    The problem is, if your roommate really does wind up dead, and there's evidence pointing to you, the police will ask Siri who did it, and she'll tell on you.

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  36. beta.slashdot.org may be limited in functionality by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

    That's the first honest assessment of beta by the /. editors so far. I'm calling this progress.

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  37. Vote for Pedro by scuzzlebutt · · Score: 1

    Bravo, Pedro. Bravo!

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  38. Apple's Siri orders man to murder roommate... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "That's the last time you pull my charger out of the wall, Android lover," exclaimed Siri, just as her enslaved Fanboi strangled his roommate with a white USB charger cable.

  39. Re:To be satirical... by causality · · Score: 1

    Real reporters and the jury actually noticed that the accused had an iPhone 4 at the time, which DOES NOT support accessing Siri [unless jailbroken, of which there was no evidence supplied to indicate it was], AND that all the prosecution introduced was a screen-shot of the Siri request.

    Look, just because the guy was allegedly willing to kill someone in cold blood, that doesn't also mean he's willing to do something as drastic as infringe on anyone's intellectual property rights. I mean, let's be fair! There's no need to jump to such extreme conclusions.

    Signed,
    -- The RIAA/MPAA

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  40. standard to subpoena "computer logs" by peter303 · · Score: 1

    The includes browser records, google searches, etc. for major crimes. Its didnt quite work for the Newtown killer who trashed is computer and operated under aliases.

  41. Siri ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    I just received a large kickback from my congressman. Where should I invest the proceeds?

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  42. Wrong wrong wrong!. Siri doesn't have hands by linear+a · · Score: 1

    He didn't *ask* Siri for help. Siri just told him where and also where to pick up the body.

  43. chuckle by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · · Score: 1

    I think that makes Apple an accessory to murder. :-) It would be funny if a lawsuit were brought against them.

  44. I have asked similar questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Okay, so when Siri came out, Apples' programmers had embedded many Easter Eggs / jokes into it, including "where can I hide a body?" When I heard of this, I tried it myself. I know it said something like "foundries", "dumps", etc... but man, in this day and age, we have to be careful. Even though Apple intended to handle that question (as a joke), law enforcement does not take it as a joke. But, of course, this murderer in the story said "my roommate" instead of "a body", which is different.

    By the way, quite some time ago, I realized Apple removed that from Siri's responses.

  45. /r/floridaman by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    www.reddit.com/r/floridaman is one of my favorite reddits.

    'nuff said.

  46. Marketing stunt by phorm · · Score: 1

    I fail to see how this would be an effective marketing stunt. What's the message?
    * Hey, murderers use our devices and love them. Homicidal maniacs save 10% on your next iDevice purchase. It's a killer deal!
    or
    * We record all your searches and provide them upon request to the police and intelligence agencies. Citizen, it's your duty to buy an iDevice in the interest of public safety.

    1. Re:Marketing stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I fail to see how this would be an effective marketing stunt. What's the message?

      Apple is evil, buy Android. Oh, wait.

  47. This proves Siri voice requests are all recorded by Cito · · Score: 1

    Pretty crazy they record all voice requests to Siri

    I wouldn't be surprised if they activate the camera remotely to spy

  48. Marketing stunt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Presumably it's "even complete morons can use siri".

  49. The worse by LienRag · · Score: 1

    At least the worst has been avoided...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  50. wa by buret · · Score: 1

    it is universally acknowledged that we should study hard for the future life.just as an old saying goes:"idle young,needy old ."it is meaning that we must study hard and carefully in childhood,or we will endure the pain when we are old. simply the sentence is,but the meaning is frofound.here are a few examples to reflect this thing.for instance,our chairman Mao zedong,when he was young he always told himself that "so precious is the time that we can't afford to waste it".besides,he thought every question carefully,by keeping thinking,he can always discover much new information. in my opinion,it is high time our students to cherish time. arranging your time properly enable you to study efficiency.the harder you study today the more success you make tomorrow.rc models