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Ballmer Leaves Microsoft Board

jones_supa writes: After leaving his position as CEO of Microsoft a year ago, Steve Ballmer has still held a position as a member of the board of directors for the company. Now, he is leaving the board, explaining why in a letter to fresh Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella. "I have become very busy," Ballmer explains. "I see a combination of Clippers, civic contribution, teaching and study taking up a lot of time." Despite his departure, the former-CEO is still invested in the company's success, and he spent most of the letter encouraging Nadella and giving advice. Nadella shot back a supportive, equally optimistic response, promising that Microsoft will thrive in "the mobile-first, cloud-first world."

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  1. "mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    . . . customer last.

    Burma Shave.

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    1. Re:"mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Offtopic PolygamousRanchKid, but given your name I thought I would point out what the punishment is for polygamy... ...it's having more than one wife.

    2. Re:"mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Funny

      But +1 for Ballmer leaving.

      -1 for Ballmer leaving. What is good for Microsoft, is bad for humanity. I would like to see him stay.

    3. Re:"mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by antdude · · Score: 1

      Bill Gates, is that you? :P

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    4. Re:"mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by ls671 · · Score: 1

      Dear Satya,

      I thought you were a girl based on your name. So I went to the interwebs to find a picture of yourself to see if you were cute.

      Oh well, maybe I will have better luck next time.

      -Narayana

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    5. Re:"mobile-first, cloud-first . . ." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Who modded that funny?! Seriously, a number of us would like to see Ballmer finish driving MS into the ground...

  2. Oh really... by itsenrique · · Score: 1

    ""Nadella shot back a supportive, equally optimistic response, promising that Microsoft will thrive in "the mobile-first, cloud-first world."""
    I'd be pretty surprised if Microsoft was able to worm its way into mobile on anything like the scale it had/has with desktops. Cloud stuff? Perhaps...

    1. Re:Oh really... by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They're already the second largest Iaas provider after Amazon (EC2 vs Azure) and the second largest business Saas provider after Salesforce (SF vs Office365/Dynamics cloud). As they cloudify more of their offerings they'll be able to capture plenty of revenue from mobile, and since they'll actually be eating their own dogfood their tools for large customers should get better and more and more small customers will just host with them.

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    2. Re:Oh really... by itsenrique · · Score: 2

      Indeed, they do seem to be a large presence in the cloud. But still, mobile?

    3. Re:Oh really... by Cyberax · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Except that Azure is crap and the only reason they are the second is that Google gives even less crap about Google Compute. Amazon is waaaaaaay better in almost any regard (price, availability, API design, documentation, the quality of products, the number of products, and so on).

    4. Re:Oh really... by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      EC2 has also suffered significant outages. All online services will have one somewhere along the way.

  3. Mobile first? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    WTF! Then why did he lay off me and all of my friends that work on mobile? No. They gave-up on mobile when they laid-off most of the mobile employees.

    1. Re:Mobile first? by mbkennel · · Score: 2

      That's exactly how Microsoft is going to thrive in the mobile-first world. By getting the fuck out.

      Nadella knows what's up (i.e. Elop & Ballmer are tumors) and how they're not really capable.

      But seriously, that's a smart idea, they're writing the software & hosting the infrastructure for the back end services.

  4. Will leave MicroSoft board, Bored is more like it by __aanbvm4272 · · Score: 1

    I sure will miss him. Naawt! How many chips will he have to cash in on to buy the Clippers? Only enough to keep the price of MS stock from tumbling, like Bill does.

  5. Players, Players, Players, Players!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Players, Players, Players, Players!!!!

  6. "the mobile-first, cloud-first world." by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Funny

    .... Ya, if I was Ballmer I would be distancing myself and selling stock as fast as I could.

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    1. Re:"the mobile-first, cloud-first world." by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Yup. Everything is top priority except Microsoft's core competencies and market. No way this can go wrong for them.

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  7. Re: C by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    M$ never dominated the mobile market with WinCe or PPC

    They were highly unpopular compared with the Black Berry and Palm Pilots.

  8. ah, come on... by swschrad · · Score: 4, Funny

    it's basketball. REBOUND, REBOUND, REBOUND!! (tosses chair. another chair. water jug. wig. money. case full of Surface II tablets, one at a time. tosses T-shirt cannon ....)

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    1. Re:ah, come on... by SternisheFan · · Score: 1
      Can you imagine having to have this guy as your boss?...

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

      "HARD-CORE!"

    2. Re:ah, come on... by mattack2 · · Score: 1

      Whatever little snippet I saw of him on the news the other day, yelling at his team (press conference?), definitely did remind me of the DEVELOPERS spazzing.

  9. He departed because... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    they nailed the chairs down.

  10. So sad by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    His ability to cause maximum damage and employee discomfort will be somewhat curtailed. Too bad about that. Hopefully Nadella can fill his clown shoes.

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  11. Re: C by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

    To keep those windfall profits rolling in, Microsoft only ever knew two tricks: 1) turn on your partners 2) do not respect the law.

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  12. Re:Before leaving, Steve did ALS Ice Bucket Challe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Yeah, because Bill would never give money to charity.

  13. Who by Snufu · · Score: 1

    will find--fill his chair?

    1. Re:Who by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

      who will find--fill his chair?

      to try to do that they would first have to pull it out of the wall it is embeded in.

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  14. Re:Before leaving, Steve did ALS Ice Bucket Challe by retchdog · · Score: 1

    well, nerds often have delusions of becoming billionaires.

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  15. Wanted: Manager by Snufu · · Score: 2

    Requirements: Can use a standing desk.

  16. Microsoft is a spent force by Ckwop · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Microsoft doesn't have many fans on Slashdot but even the most die-hard of fans must now see that they're in a real bad position.

    The used to be invincible in the consumer space but now the computing device of choice is either the tablet or the smart phone. Precious few of these are Windows based.

    The used to be invincible in the business user space but the move to mobile computing means business people are using iPhone and iPads, not Windows Phones and Surface.

    Then there's Bing, who's only claim to fame is being the world's greatest search engine. For. Porn.

    Then there's Azure. We actually looked at Azure and discovered that the same hardware in EC2 was half the price. If you going to twice as much you might as well give up and go home.

    Then there was the own goal of the latest generation XBox. They managed to piss everyone off for no discernible gain.

    The only area their grip is still strong is PC gaming. For how long, who knows?

    Microsoft is a spent force. They're out of ideas. In a few short years they've gone from being the 800lb gorilla to just struggling just to remain relevant.

    It reminds me of Brazil versus Germany at this year's world cup. I'm not celebrating any more; it's just sad at this point.

    1. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then there's Bing, who's only claim to fame is being the world's greatest search engine. For. Porn.

      Wait... it is? Seriously? I've got a friend who actually cares about this. I'll "let him know".

    2. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by Ksevio · · Score: 1

      I'm convinced this is just an underground effort by bing's PR team to get the Internet to like it for something

    3. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by David_Hart · · Score: 5, Informative

      Microsoft doesn't have many fans on Slashdot but even the most die-hard of fans must now see that they're in a real bad position.

      The used to be invincible in the consumer space but now the computing device of choice is either the tablet or the smart phone. Precious few of these are Windows based.

      The used to be invincible in the business user space but the move to mobile computing means business people are using iPhone and iPads, not Windows Phones and Surface.

      Then there was the own goal of the latest generation XBox. They managed to piss everyone off for no discernible gain.

      The only area their grip is still strong is PC gaming. For how long, who knows?

      Microsoft mice are still popular... (grin)

      The XBox and PS3 were pretty much even, there was no clear definitive advantage for Microsoft. Plus, we don't even know if Microsoft ever broke even with the Xbox.

      Microsoft's bread-n-butter has always been MS Office, Desktop OS, and the Enterprise space. MS is developing Office Apps for the iPad and Android, PC/Laptop sales have stabilized as people realize that they still need them to edit and create content, and the Enterprise space is doing better than ever with the advent of virtual servers.

      I'm not saying that Microsoft doesn't have challenges but saying that they are "struggling just to remain relevant" shows a lack of understanding about the business as a whole. As proof, in Q4 2014 Microsoft enterprise sales "increased $2.3 billion or 6%, due primarily to increased revenue from our server products". A $2.3 billion dollar increase in one quarter is nothing to sneeze at...

      http://www.microsoft.com/Inves...

    4. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by dyslexicbunny · · Score: 3, Informative

      Google aggressively filters out porn from the results. Bing doesn't. Which is convenient when you want to find porn.

    5. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

      Doesn't adding the keyword "porn" to the Google search stop all of that filtering?

    6. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by myrdos2 · · Score: 2

      I don't know, but there's only one way to find out!

    7. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A while back they changed it to assume that you wanted safesearch at "moderate" unless your search query has a very explicit word like "porn" in it. There's still a checkbox for safesearch, but it's the difference between "moderate" and "strict".

      Still, I think Bing's known for porn more because of the video previews it does on its video search results pages.

    8. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by KamikazeSquid · · Score: 1

      I find porn on Google all the time. Google video search has tons of porn if you use the right search terms.

    9. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by mcrbids · · Score: 2

      Revenue for a company on the way out frequently looks really rosy right up to the last bit. Take a look at Nokia which was making massive profits by not investing in smart phones. They had massive market share in "feature phones" that overwhelmingly outsold smart phones. That is, until they became so passe that even the kids didn't want one. Now the pieces are being sold off to... wait!

      You know, I didn't even mean to pick Nokia because of its relationship with Microsoft, but it just occurred to me... Whelp!

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    10. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by strikethree · · Score: 1

      I'm not saying that Microsoft doesn't have challenges but saying that they are "struggling just to remain relevant" shows a lack of understanding about the business as a whole. As proof, in Q4 2014 Microsoft enterprise sales "increased $2.3 billion or 6%, due primarily to increased revenue from our server products". A $2.3 billion dollar increase in one quarter is nothing to sneeze at..

      I agree to a certain extent; however, you should consider that when a giant falls, giant changes occur. What I mean is this, you could easily see a $2.3 billion INCREASE in revenue and still know that the business is in trouble. Yes, that is an obscenely huge increase for most businesses... but Microsoft is not most businesses. $2.3 billion is actually closer to chump change on their scale.

      There is a lot of yelling and screaming about innovation, but there is none at Microsoft. They see their rewards dangling in front of their face and that is all they see. Sure, they have strategies and tactics and they pay people to think, but it all means nothing because management wants that reward. They want to secure their access to that reward forever. The reward is their entire focus... and there can be no innovation in that kind of scenario.

      Why is the preceding discussion important? Because the information processing needs of people are not being served by Microsoft. Mobile phones and tablets have been growing to take over some of those needs. This leaves a hole or holes in the ."secure access to that reward forever" armor.

      One of the big holes is that Microsoft has annoyed people with their behavior so people do not want to use Microsoft anything. Incompatible file formats, DRM, hiding processes and programs, etc have made using anything Microsoft a relatively hostile experience. With tablets and phones being able to do email and other social things well, the need for a large portion of the population to use Microsoft products at home is gone. Every time these people touch Microsoft stuff at work, the bad taste in their mouth makes Microsoft more and more irrelevant to their lives. This is hurting Microsoft NOW.

      But what about the future? Well, the backbone of the United States is the small business. Small business owners are people... people who do not use Microsoft products at home if they can. There will come a watershed moment where Microsoft's grip on small business will slip enough to allow solutions based on non-Microsoft technologies to grab hold. Within a year, possibly two, Microsoft's revenue will drop in a manner that would kill most any other business. Jaw droppingly so.

      $2.3 billion is chump change in either direction for Microsoft.

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    11. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by spikesahead · · Score: 1

      It's working.

    12. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 1

      "Google video search has tons of porn if you use the right search terms."

      Please prove your point, with ample examples if possible.

    13. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

      Then there's Bing, who's only claim to fame is being the world's greatest search engine. For. Porn.

      Wait... it is? Seriously? I've got a friend who actually cares about this. I'll "let him know".

      Given how incredibly hard it sucks at looking up technical information, I suspect it would be awesome in porn.

    14. Re:Microsoft is a spent force by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Actually many people who install "Classic Shell" on Windows 8 prefer it to Windows 7 because Windows 8 is alot faster, more stable and has quicker boot times. People who complain about Metro are just too dumb to install classic shell.

  17. Rats leaving ship by TeknoHog · · Score: 2

    Chairs or it didn't happen.

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  18. Nothing like aiming low by s.petry · · Score: 1, Insightful

    So people that shit on others, circumvent and break the law, and basically shit on people at every possible opportunity to make personal gains are to be looked up to when they toss a crumb to a crowd. Got it.

    Grats on being a completely brainwashed idiot, instead of just an average idiot.

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  19. true reaon for leaving! by u19925 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dear Satya,

    I sincerely feel that microsoft stock is very high and is unsustainable over a long period. I cannot sell my stock while still on microsoft board. By leaving the board, I will be able to sell the stock before it crashes. Why do you think, I made you CEO in the first place?

    Your former boss.

    1. Re:true reaon for leaving! by symbolset · · Score: 1

      When you are spending your $20B fortune in $2B chunks it goes pretty quick.

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    2. Re:true reaon for leaving! by T.E.D. · · Score: 2

      The vast majority of that 20 billion is theoretical money based on Microsoft's current stock evaluation. If the bottom dropped out of that stock (say like actually happened to Apple in the 90's, or even, God forbid, Commodore), he would stand to lose all but a small percentage of that.

    3. Re:true reaon for leaving! by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Investing. He'll probably make it back.

    4. Re:true reaon for leaving! by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      That's why he's leaving. He's hoping for another stock price increase like when he stepped down as CEO (and became, I understand, billions of dollars richer).

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  20. Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It should be pretty obvious that this point that mobile isn't all that it's cracked up to be, even if executives need to at least pretend in public that it's still relevant, to save face.

    Smartphones haven't moved much beyond text messaging (or apps that offer similar functionality), email, games, and basic web browsing. Many corporate users just use them for email and occasional phone calls. There's really nothing to be monetized there.

    Netbooks have proven to be an abysmal failure. Customers just don't want the bad experience that they provide, when it comes to both software and hardware. We haven't seen any real adoption of Chromebook-style devices, either, for the same reason.

    Tablets have also failed in the market. Apple is the only vendor to have seen some success, but that was built more upon hype and the quasi-religious attitude that many people hold toward Apple devices, rather than out of any real need or use for such devices. Outside of a small number of niche use cases, people in general have found tablets to be useless. They sound good in theory, but then they're found to be too locked down or inconvenient to use, and end up collecting dust.

    People want desktops. People want real laptops. People don't want yet another shitty mobile device. I'm sorry to say this, but you and your friends were in the wrong field. You followed fads rather than providing real value, and paid for it with your jobs. Resources need to go where they'll be best used, and mobile just isn't the best use for them.

    1. Re: Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well, you obviously didn't read the GP's comment. The GP covered that:

      Tablets have also failed in the market. Apple is the only vendor to have seen some success, but that was built more upon hype and the quasi-religious attitude that many people hold toward Apple devices, rather than out of any real need or use for such devices.

      Millions upon millions of crucifix necklaces have been sold, too. Just because there have been lots of sales it doesn't mean that they're actually useful, though. iDevices, just like crucifix necklaces, are pointless items bought due to religious fanaticism rather than for some productive purpose.

    2. Re:Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by mbkennel · · Score: 3, Interesting

      | Tablets have also failed in the market. Apple is the only vendor to have seen some success, but that was built more upon hype and the quasi-religious attitude that many people hold toward Apple devices, rather than out of any real need or use for such devices. Outside of a small number of niche use cases, people in general have found tablets to be useless.

      The niche use cases are
      a) reading email
      b) sending messages
      c) using web apps
      d) watching movies
      e) playing games

      which as it turns out are very common.

      However it's true that Microsoft doesn't have a huge play here on the terminal (tablet end), but it does on the service end.

      It just means that now such software will be expected to be readable and usable (for some things) on a tablet terminal as well as a laptop terminal. There's plenty of traveling businessmen who might want to access a service application through a tablet (e.g sales force) that starts in 2 seconds when they're in the airport instead of using the whole laptop.

      For Microsoft, tablets are not an opportunity to make hardware or sell operating systems (the total global revenue from tablet operating system sales is $0), but only as another terminal to hosted applications.

      They should stick to writing business software. Instead of trying to fight and lose against very capable competitors in their primary niches, i.e. Google and Apple, they should compete in the space of general business software. There's much more opportunity beyond Office. Soft targets, for example all of Oracle's horrid non-database application software, where the standards are egregiously low, and make Office seem like a work from Michelangelo.

    3. Re:Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by Bonker · · Score: 2

      I wish I had upvotes for you.

      I am a power user. I'm currently surrounded by two very powerful PCs... rather a high-end 'docked' mac laptop dedicated to development work and a frankenstein's monster BYOC dedicated to gaming, Watching and converting video (-- Anime junkie) and artwork.

      I also own a little Samsung Android tablet. Despite the mobile development workstation, I use the ever-loving snot out of that tablet. I use it to watch video I've converted for it, read books and magazines, browse web while seated in my nice club chair in the living room, have a reference site up while console gaming, and art. Turns out that Autodesk has a VERY nice painting app for $6. Works beautifully with cheapy capacitive styluses.

      I consume the vast majority of my Crunchyroll subscription on it (more anime and manga).

      However, I don't use it at ALL for email.

      So yeah, mobile matters.

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    4. Re:Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by s.petry · · Score: 1

      My wife does 100% of her work as a writer on her Chromebook and various Android devices.

      If you would have stuck with just claiming that she worked on a Chromebook, I may believe you. While not "great" in terms of anything, it's at least possible. A Chromebook is like laptop. Of course with poorer performance, crappy graphics, and limited software available.

      I have no idea why you would toss out the claim of Android, are you getting paid to shill? Kind of like someone claiming "My wife does 100% of her work a Macbook and iphone/ipad.". Obviously the majority of the work is on the Macbook, and "yes" I would ask them the same question.

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    5. Re:Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Netbooks were a passing fad because they weren't quite good enough, and part of the reason they weren't quite good enough is that Microsoft imposed artificial restrictions on their hardware (display size and resolution, RAM) in an attempt to protect their main Windows business. The new crop of low cost Windows laptops will be good enough, because now they have competition from Chromebooks and they have to match the competition. It's likely that some of them will BE Chromebooks with a different keyboard and software load; I expect to see an Acer W720 soon (with either a hard drive or a larger SSD) though they might not call it that.

    6. Re:Newsflash: mobile doesn't actually matter. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Smartphones offer email and messaging (they mostly also can make phone calls). They also offer all sorts of PDA functions. What more do you expect something that size to do? There's plenty of money to be made there (at least for Apple and Samsung).

      I'm not as sure about Netbooks. Chromebooks have possibilities, and they haven't been out all that long, so I'm not calling them a failure. Not now, anyway.

      Tablets have succeeded in the market. Apple has sold a whole lot, and you don't get Apple. They sell an experience, not hype, and no significant numbers of people (in the sales sense) get quasi-religious. The fact is that you aren't Apple's target audience, and you fail to understand what might appeal to other people. I've seen lots of people making good use of iPads. I believe Samsung has also been doing well, although I've not seen many general-purpose Android tablets. Amazon has been selling massive amounts of them, many of them fundamentally Android tablets with special links to Amazon. Nor are tablets too locked down (the walled garden has a lot of advantages for non-technical people), and they are convenient.

      Fundamentally, you need to either stop making sweeping statements, or get out more and hang out with people different from you.

      The market for desktops and laptops is not going away, but for a great many people they can be replaced by tablets, or even phones. I don't want to get my mother-in-law online with her desktop or laptop, but I'd love to see her using an iPad for that purpose. It'll do everything she might want to do with a computer. (Not everything you or I might want to do with a computer, but people like my mother-in-law are a pretty big market in themselves.)

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  21. Re: C by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm sorry but you're incorrect. In 2007 Windows Mobile had the largest market share of any OS for mobile devices, with 42% of the market:
    http://bgr.com/2011/12/13/appl...

    They had tied Blackberry the year before, and edged them out in 2007 which was when iPhone was released. Then the next year iPhone took over.

    Going back pre-smartphone, when the only real players in the PDA arena were Palm and Microsoft, Microsoft surpassed Palm in 2004, and from then on it was all downhill for Palm as they tried to update an archaic OS to utilize advances in hardware.
    http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/65...

    Microsoft soundly won the PDA war, but then were totally decimated soon after the PDA market transitioned into the Smart Phone market. In turn, Palm, then Blackberry, then Microsoft all owned the market and then stagnated, failed to innovate, and were superseded by new OSes that didn't have legacy issues (or trying to maintain backwards compatibility, etc).

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  22. perhaps now that he is gone they may have a chance by bunhed · · Score: 1

    a slim chance, to be sure. they have lost a lot of ground.

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  23. And nothing of value was lost by dave562 · · Score: 1

    Title says it all

  24. "Bleeding Microsoft" Sounds Painful by akgoddess · · Score: 1

    I'm not sure if "I bleed Microsoft" was a painful or positive experience.

  25. Dear Mr. Nadella by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Dear Mr. Nadella, IBM still makes mainframes. Please don't forget that. Sincerely, "Legacy".

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  26. The Donald Sterling mystery explained by Drunkulus · · Score: 1

    SB: Don. I want to buy a basketball team.
    DS: That's not going to help sell more Zunes, Steve.
    SB: Uh, yeah well it's time for new challenges, if you know what I mean. But between steering Microsoft
    into an iceberg and my well known temper tantrums, I'm afraid the NBA won't let me buy a team.
    DS: I'll put in a good word for you.
    SB: That's not going to cut it, Don. What I need is for you to create a distraction. A train wreck caliber
    disturbance so profound the NBA will be glad to have me.
    DS: Oh my God.

  27. Insufficient by Dragonshed · · Score: 1

    Sorry Balmer, that still isn't far enough.

    Nuke him from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

  28. "I'm just one man." by jpellino · · Score: 1

    said Ballmer "how much skull-peeling screaming can I do?"

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  29. Re: C by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Going back pre-smartphone, when the only real players in the PDA arena were Palm and Microsoft, Microsoft surpassed Palm in 2004, and from then on it was all downhill for Palm as they tried to update an archaic OS to utilize advances in hardware.

    So you're saying that, during the past few years, Microsoft has basically been slogging through the same experience Palm went through a decade ago.

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  30. Ballmer's advices by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    he spent most of the letter encouraging Nadella and giving advice

    I would be cautious with advices from the guy that has just been fired. Just saying I heard them may cause MS quotation to drop.

  31. Only the US by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    No that was US only, the world and overall were Symbian by a large margin.

    What you're saying is that Microsoft dominated the US carrier market for a few years, in the same way that Sony dominated the Japanese domestic market.

    There is no 'winner' in a technology war, the war is never ending and Microsoft were never top dog except in one market.

    1. Re:Only the US by Shirley+Marquez · · Score: 1

      Symbian can't really be said to have ever dominated the smartphone market, despite its large market share. Most of the Symbian devices were never used in a way that we would recognize as smartphone use; there was little use of apps at all and users never installed any additional apps.

  32. Re: C by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

    Going back pre-smartphone, when the only real players in the PDA arena were Palm and Microsoft, Microsoft surpassed Palm in 2004, and from then on it was all downhill for Palm as they tried to update an archaic OS to utilize advances in hardware.

    So you're saying that, during the past few years, Microsoft has basically been slogging through the same experience Palm went through a decade ago.

    Lets hope they meet the same end up. Bought up by HP killed by corporate mismanagement and open sourced at a later date.

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  33. Re:The /. MS FP drinking game by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 2

    BTW Robin Williams died. Many stories were submitted but /. failed to approve any for FP. Instead, we hear about Microsoft news again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

    That would be because we are a tech and geek news site not a celebrity gossip rag, while he was admittedly an excellent actor and comedian that does not make it geek or tech news as such it did not make it on here. Where Microsoft is a software/tech company which makes it tech news thus get posted.

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  34. Re:did he take his chair with him? by lister+king+of+smeg · · Score: 1

    I bet u he left @ micro$oft !

    What will he throw @ the basketball players?

    he is past throwing chairs he is on to bigger and better things like throwing bleachers...

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  35. Re: C by symbolset · · Score: 1

    Frankly, they can keep the source. Burn it with fire.

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  36. Re:perhaps now that he is gone they may have a cha by symbolset · · Score: 1

    Office is their last line of defence. But the walls will not hold. Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more; Or close the wall up with our English dead.

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  37. moving vs. stationary by Tom · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "the mobile-first, cloud-first world."

    This sums up the core MS issue better than anything else I've ever read. MS has never been innovative, but worse: It has never been a company that likes change. Their world-view is static and stationary. While they acknowledge the world is changing (reality can be quite persuasive), they don't see movement, they see a succession of stationary status quos.

    They will now throw everything at becoming the perfect company for the picture of the world they have. And in five years look out the window and see that the world has changed - again.

    It's also the reason we all hate MS - due to their still existing stranglehold on computing, they keep much of the rest of the world static with them. The damage done by preventing innovation and progress is easily ten times MS net worth.

    All because some people don't understand that life is dynamic.

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    1. Re:moving vs. stationary by johnsie · · Score: 1

      Nonsense. Microsoft were the ones who brought desktop computing into the mainstream. Their "status quo" gave users an interface that they were famililar and comfortable with. Only when they started changing things around did it get bad. What are the alternatives? A company like Apple that is even more evil? Amateur Linux source applications which are lacking in quality? Let's face it LibreOffice is poorly coded, badly designed and alot slower than Microsoft Office. Most Linux apps have poor interfaces and very little in the way of quality assurance.

    2. Re:moving vs. stationary by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Actually, IBM brought desktop computing into the mainstream, and Microsoft was not necessary for that.

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    3. Re:moving vs. stationary by Tom · · Score: 1

      Microsoft were the ones who brought desktop computing into the mainstream.

      But they did neither invent it nor made they any innovative progress. They are a marketing company - good at repacking other peoples inventions and selling them to a mainstream market.

      What are the alternatives?

      Thanks to over 20 years of monopoly practices and systematical destruction of potential rivals, indeed there aren't very many. But that's like saying that you don't have any alternatives to being a muslim in Iraq. Just because someone has taken away all your other choices doesn't mean the remaining choice is any good.

      and alot slower than Microsoft Office.

      True, but let's be honest here: We are comparing different flavors of shit. Office, in any of its incarnations, is an abomination.

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    4. Re:moving vs. stationary by wilder_card · · Score: 1

      This is what Bill Gates meant to Microsoft, even towards the end. Microsoft is what it is because he could see what was coming. And he could move the whole company where it needed to go. (True, they were late on the internet,but what a pivot they made).I just don't see anybody else able to fill that role.

  38. Nananana Nananana Hey Hey Hey by scubamage · · Score: 1

    GOODBYE

  39. Re:I would too by Yunzil · · Score: 1

    I don't blame the guy, why stay on a sinking ship?

    Especially when you're the one who blasted the holes in the hull.

  40. ...and there was much rejoicing... by ExChicken · · Score: 1

    Bring out yer dead