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In Maryland, a Soviet-Style Punishment For a Novelist

An anonymous reader writes A 23-year-old teacher at a Cambridge, Md. middle school has been placed on leave and—in the words of a local news report — "taken in for an emergency medical evaluation" for publishing, under a pseudonym, a novel about a school shooting. The novelist, Patrick McLaw, an eighth-grade language-arts teacher at the Mace's Lane Middle School, was placed on leave by the Dorchester County Board of Education, and is being investigated by the Dorchester County Sheriff's Office, according to news reports from Maryland's Eastern Shore. The novel, by the way, is set 900 years in the future."

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  1. Sue the bastards by realmolo · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Wow. Talk about a lawsuit that you are *guaranteed* to win.

    This guy is going to make millions.

    1. Re:Sue the bastards by Jack9 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Let's hope so.

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    2. Re:Sue the bastards by mysidia · · Score: 5, Interesting

      I don't know. It sounds like they kidnapped him in the night, forced him to leave hims hometown, and have imprisoned him somewhere against his will, just based on a fictional novel --- probably a jail or psych ward, where they are already administering drugs, so he won't have the mental faculties left to pursue any action, not that he could without ability to travel and speak to an attorney.

      McLaw was suspended by the Dorchester County Board of Education pending an investigation and is no longer in the area. He is currently at a location known to law enforcement and does not currently have the ability to travel anywhere.

    3. Re:Sue the bastards by jythie · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The person's chances are not all that good. Unless the union backs them up (and even then it can be a stretch) schools are pretty hard to go up against. "Think of the children", while often mocked, is a pretty powerful rallying cry for local officials who might be worried about parental outrage or practicing 'cover your ass' security where it is better to come down hard and be seeing to be doing something then risk something happening and be blamed for not acting. The life of some middle school teacher does not even begin to factor in.

    4. Re:Sue the bastards by gurps_npc · · Score: 3, Insightful
      The schools are good at keeping people from teaching.

      But they do this by paying LARGE amounts of money.

      If the union backs him, he will probably get his job.

      If the union does not back him, he won't get his job, he will instead get a ton of money.

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    5. Re:Sue the bastards by chemicaldave · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Think of the children"

      The book is 900 years in the future. I think you mean "Think of the great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren."

    6. Re:Sue the bastards by donscarletti · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If his books are any good in the slightest, then he's going to make a killing on this publicity.

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    7. Re:Sue the bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Hopefully, but probably not. The author is black.

    8. Re:Sue the bastards by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      On the other hand, in my high school we had a teacher with whom a freshman became obsessed including showing up drunk at his house. Even though he never did anything with her and rebuffed her advances he was fired because parents were concerned about one of their daughters and a teacher.

      Meanwhile one of our other teachers, a woman, was known to sleep with students and married one after he graduated, nothing was ever done to her. The difficulty of firing a teacher pretty much comes down to how much PR is involved and if the union feels it will be better served getting rid of the person vs keeping them, either due to internal or external political concerns.

    9. Re:Sue the bastards by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

      Someone should write a dystopian sci-fi novel about this (oh wait/Yo Dawg...).

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    10. Re:Sue the bastards by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Think of the children is the battle cry of Tyrants everywhere. I won't vote for anyone, even if I agree 99% with them politically, if they make any statement similar to "do it for the children". I urge every slashdotter to do the same this election cycle, even if it means voting for the "other guy". AND let the Politicians know that hiding behind skirts and baby strollers is what terrorists do.

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    11. Re:Sue the bastards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      convicted of statutory and the school was forced to hire him back? i'm not believeing it until you link to a news article

    12. Re:Sue the bastards by jlb.think · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Law enforcment is not bound by HIPPA, but are hesitant to divulge what may be considered private under HIPPA. I have had people close to me sent to psychiatric institutions and once they are there the staff won't tell anyone they are even there without a waiver being signed by the patient. This is very frustrating when the police show up and hall off your loved one, and they seem to disappear into a blackhole. A few days later I did recieve a call. But if a patient was sufficiently drugged and unable or not allowed to make phone calls they could disappear indefinitely, drugged-incapacitated and without the mental capacity to challenge their detention.

    13. Re:Sue the bastards by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Interesting

      America.... home of the fr... yeah right.

      Anyway, take a look at the kind of books that are *taught* in schools:

              Romeo and Juliet by Shakespeare
              Macbeth by Shakespeare
              Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
              Julius Caesar by Shakespeare
              To Kill a Mockingbird by Harper Lee
              The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne
              Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
              Hamlet by Shakespeare
              The Great Gatsby by F. Scott Fitzgerald
              Lord of the Flies by William Golding

      So lets see... underage sex, murder of your relatives, regicide, racism, lynchings, rape, adultery, organised crime, a mentally-ill killer and of course - lawless schoolboys killing each other! What's not to love about the American school system, yeehaw!

    14. Re:Sue the bastards by pspahn · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Curious, I have seen on the ballot every single year everywhere I have ever lived there is always a measure to "support better education" by "allocating more funds". What I find so odd, is that despite these measures passing, and education getting more funds, next year there will be another measure that uses the same language.

      If we keep making schools better by giving them more money, why aren't schools exponentially better by now?

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    15. Re:Sue the bastards by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Let's hope so.

      So we should hope that someone can collect millions in taxpayer dollars because they were placed on paid leave? TFA is a biased opinion piece presenting third and fourth hand information, and quotes with no context, in a clear attempt to generate outrage, and thus pageviews. I have no idea what the real story is, but maybe everyone should just calm down and wait for the facts to come out from a reputable source that doesn't use "Soviet-Style Punishment" in their headline. The Soviets didn't send their enemies home on paid leave.

    16. Re:Sue the bastards by DickBreath · · Score: 2

      You're doing it wrong. It's easy to get fired as a teacher. Just start teaching critical thinking, how to express yourself, creativity, questioning of authority and independent thought, and see how long it is until you get fired.

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    17. Re:Sue the bastards by Phreakiture · · Score: 4, Informative

      I have no idea what the real story is,

      There is a less hysterical piece at NewsOne, also this from the Washington Times. There is also an opposing opinion in the Baltimore Sun.

      Does that help?

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    18. Re:Sue the bastards by GrumblyStuff · · Score: 2

      Thirty generations about thirty years apart? I like your precision.

    19. Re:Sue the bastards by lxw56 · · Score: 2

      LA Times Books has an update that provides more insight to this story.

      TL;DR:
      McLaw wrote a 4-page letter to "local officials" prompting these concerns.
      His lawyer gave a statement saying he is in a medical facility receiving treatment. Lawyer is not alleging that his rights were violated.

    20. Re:Sue the bastards by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Informative

      Does that help?

      Yes, that helps, since these sources contradict many of the "facts", and the main theme, of TFA:

      - His book The Insurrectionist was published more than three years ago.
      - School authorities have been aware of the book since it was first published.
      - His book had little or no influence on the decision to place him on administrative leave.
      - The main reason for his suspension was a "bizarre" four page letter that he wrote to county officials, that raised mental health concerns.
      - He has not been arrested, and is not being charged with any offence (TFA does not say he was, buy many commenters here have assumed this).
      - It does not appear that his mental health evaluation was mandatory or coerced in anyway other than as a condition of returning to work.

      So it appears that there were some legitimate concerns about his mental health, and that authorities' response to those concerns was measured and reasonable.

    21. Re:Sue the bastards by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So what you're saying is that rather than a story of "Over-reaction by elected officials and law enforcement", we instead have a story about "piss-poor and irresponsible reporting by the mainstream media"?

      I think the much more interesting story is "Why do presumably educated and internet savvy Slashdot readers repeatedly believe journalistic garbage that can be debunked with a 30 second Google search?".

  2. In Soviet Maryland by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Book burns you.

    1. Re:In Soviet Maryland by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Stephen King is probably lucky he lives in a different area of the northeast.......otherwise, he'd be on trial for all sorts of sick demented things.

      Seriously, though -- if the teacher had other suspicious behaviours, it would be one thing, but just writing a fictional story based on an area he's familiar with isn't enough to indicate criminal thought.

    2. Re:In Soviet Maryland by JeffAtl · · Score: 5, Informative

      they need to take to avoid future litigation for "not acting", that you can't necessarily blame the police

      This isn't accurate. The police are under no requirements to act - they even won a Supreme Court case regarding the matter.

    3. Re:In Soviet Maryland by Feces's+Edge · · Score: 2

      that you can't necessarily blame the police or the school.

      Sure I can. Screwing up people's lives is immoral, and they definitely can be blamed for taking actions which do exactly that, regardless of any societal pressure being put on them.

    4. Re:In Soviet Maryland by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The police don't need to act on every tip reported in. If that were the case, they would need to respond to every 911 call that reported that the McDonald's teller gave them a medium fries and not a large like they ordered. You know, because it might possibly become a violent situation and if they don't act they might be to blame.

      Even if they did "act" on this tip, all it would warrant might be a visit to the guy's house to talk with him briefly and run some background checks on him. That would have shown that he's a fiction writer and not publishing some manifesto about how he's going to go berserk and kill everyone. Then the author and the police would go their own ways with as little fuss as possible. Forcibly taking him in for "an emergency medical evaluation", not letting anyone know where he is, and releasing statements phrasing everything he did as if he was an imminent threat isn't "acting", it's overreacting. Overreacting never takes down valid threats - at least, not without also taking down a lot of non-threats as well. If they actually, properly "acted", we wouldn't be reading about this because it would have been a routine interview and closing of the report.

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    5. Re:In Soviet Maryland by Zalbik · · Score: 5, Insightful

      you can't necessarily blame the police or the school

      Yes I certainly can; people who uphold bad laws are almost as bad as those who enact them.

      And more importantly, unless there was evidence that this teacher was posing an immediate threat to children, they had no authority to arrest / detain him, regardless of any potential future litigation.

      To put it simply, based on the current description of the situation, it appears the police did something both illegal and immoral and the school board did something immoral and possibly illegal.

      Note: Every news story I find on this is pretty vague on the details. I suspect there is more going on here than initially reported. The news agencies have quite possibly left out important and pertinent information as it makes a great click-bait story.

    6. Re:In Soviet Maryland by powerlord · · Score: 4, Informative

      Except this is Maryland.

      The police there think that being close to the capital has granted them more authority, and the people are wacko, self-entitled over-reactors to start with.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...

      ... During the period from 1962 until 1967, Cambridge was a center of Civil Rights Movement protests as blacks sought access to work and housing. They also wanted to end racial segregation of schools and other public facilities. Race-related violence erupted in Cambridge in 1963 and 1967, and forces of the Maryland National Guard were assigned to the city to assist local authorities with peace-keeping efforts.[13] The leader of the radical movement was H. Rap Brown, the Minister of Justice of The Black Panther Party,[14] and local organizer Gloria Richardson.[15] These individuals incited the local community to burn the 2nd Ward area of Cambridge, Maryland which housed most of the African American community. The local population's homes, most of which were destroyed, were rebuilt under a 1969 Public Housing Act by the then Governor, Spiro Agnew and the Federal Government. With the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964, public segregation in Cambridge officially ended. ...

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    7. Re:In Soviet Maryland by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You CANNOT stop crime. And arresting people for "Pre Crime" is right out of Sci-Fi (Minority Report).

      A free society is messy. And often terribly so. We MUST accept being messy, sometimes nasty and ugly, if we are to truly appreciate the beautiful. Anything less is ugly, without any beauty to appreciate.

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    8. Re:In Soviet Maryland by khasim · · Score: 2

      The police are under no requirements to act - they even won a Supreme Court case regarding the matter.

      The problem is that there are very few people with the guts to say "I will take the responsibility for ending this investigation right now because I believe there is no risk".

      Once "the children" are invoked then anything can be justified to protect "the children".

      And who is going to end his/her career by saying there is no risk when someone else might find something that was missed in the perpetrator's background?

      I'm old. I remember when playing games at school was fun. Even if it was pretend assassination.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassin_(game)

    9. Re:In Soviet Maryland by TheCarp · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You are both right and wrong. The police yes....however the DA and Sheriff are often both elected positions, meaning that they do have certain "requirements" if they want to be re-elected, and often respecting civil rights is unpopular with the populace; and a LOT of people are willing to give them a pass for violating rights if they come up with even a flimsy excuse.

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    10. Re:In Soviet Maryland by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

      Forcibly taking him in for "an emergency medical evaluation", not letting anyone know where he is, and releasing statements phrasing everything he did as if he was an imminent threat isn't "acting", it's overreacting.

      Overreacting seems to be the default mode of police in many parts of the country these days.

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    11. Re:In Soviet Maryland by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 2

      If you read the new articles, its interesting to note that there is no mention that he was forcibly taken to an evaluation. Also, there are curious descriptions of his situation, such as "inability to travel anywhere", which in no way actually states that the police are restricting his travel. It appears that he is simply restricted from entering school properties while on administrative leave and someone is playing this up. As I looked it over, I am suspect there are facts that are intentionally left out fo subsequent stories for the purposes of hype. They evidently did a 'sweep' of the school and a 'search' of his house while he was not present, but only the person interpreting the news article uses the word "raid", clearly not someone with any more knowledge than you or I at this point.

      http://www.wboc.com/story/2636...

  3. What an idiot! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    He should have made the plot around child molesting instead of shooting! Geeze!

  4. Prequel by Roger+W+Moore · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well after this he'll have plenty of great material for a 900-year prequel that will tackle some different, but still very troubling, social issues.

    1. Re:Prequel by kruach+aum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Are school shootings really a social issue? I don't think it has either a hashtag nor a dedicated jezebel columnist, so how can we be sure?

  5. EFF Should help by anthony_greer · · Score: 2

    I know its a bit of a stretch of the mission, but based on what is known as of now, I think the EFF (and maybe even the ACLU) should come to this guys aid. Is this sort of thing exactly why we establish these sorts of organizations - to protect free speech be it online or on paper?

  6. Slow on the take by just_another_sean · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As if the story itself could not be more horrible I can't believe the books were published in 2011 and 2013 and just now they decide to go after him. Either he pissed off someone high up and they just found a reason to go after the guy or some bored cop just got around to discovering fiction...

    Unbelievable!

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    1. Re:Slow on the take by Jesrad · · Score: 2

      Well, there is a word that defines accurately what is happening here, but because this word has been slowly stripped of its rich meaning and turned into an empty slur, most people have stopped using it appropriately, instead merely employing it as a slur. For shame, really, because its attached historical lessons are desperately needed these days.

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    2. Re:Slow on the take by iluvcapra · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "Fascism" was a political system practiced in several Mediterranean European countries in the early part of the 20th century. It usually entailed economic and cultural coordination by the state, a personality cult around a leader, a single-party or sham democratic system, national idealism, and militant, expansionist foreign policy. It's applicability outside of this narrow context is hotly contested, you can start fights among historians by asking "Was Falangist Spain Fascist?" or "Was Nazi Germany Fascist?"

      Committing a guy for writing a book is many things, but it ain't fascism. It's people like you who apply it scattershot to every instance of emotive negativity toward the state that have stripped the word of its "rich meaning." You should know who said this:

      In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley's broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.

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  7. Guilty by el+jocko+del+oeste · · Score: 2

    I read the opening paragraph of his book on Amazon. The man *is* guilty of a crime. Assault and battery on the world of literature!

    Really, his stuff is "dark and stormy night" bad. Toss him in jail. No, wait, that's not a severe enough punishment for what he's done. Something more extreme is required. I know, make him teach middle school!

    1. Re:Guilty by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 2

      Wait. Snoopy wrote that line hundreds of times.

      You're not putting down Snoopy, are you?

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  8. Set In The Past by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Instead of 900 years in the future, he should have set it in the past. Or at least included dinosaurs. You'd never get in trouble for writing about Dinosaurs... Oops, sorry. Forget about that.

    In all seriousness, though, school shootings are a problem. However, I'm much more afraid of my oldest son (who begins middle school in a couple of days) getting in trouble for someone mistaking something he says/does as being a threat against the school than I am afraid that someone will walk into the building and kill a bunch of people. (My oldest is diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome and anxiety disorder. He can tend to be clueless about "other meanings" to the things he says or how people might take offense to certain phrases that he means in an innocent manner. Not a good combination with overzealous administrators who are jumping at the slightest whiff of trouble.)

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  9. Re:Clap clap by sycodon · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Check off one more box on the list of Police State attributes we are now experiencing.

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  10. More to the story? by Media+Archivist · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All of the stories I have read about this use the same reference: WBOC. There is, as of yet, no other source. I think there is more to this story than has been reported so far. I am not suggesting the lack of facts is a coverup, just that it is still in the early stages of falling into place.

    1. Re:More to the story? by Actually,+I+do+RTFA · · Score: 3, Informative

      Well, there's also the school board's press release: http://www.dcps.k12.md.us/file...

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  11. Well Obviously... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Only a verifiable head case would write about a school shooting 900 years in the future. I have it on good authority that the last 'chemical/kinetic homicide' was recorded in the waning days of the Transcend Uprising in 2234. By 2914, the most common spree killings, by method, are 'engineered retroviruses', 'covert antimatter decanting', and nanoassembler override.

    Also, ever since Heuristic Neural Patterning became economically viable in the mid 24th century, 'school' exists as little more than a footnote in some of the low level neural patterning modules. I'm not sure why you'd expect to find enough people for a mass casualty incident visiting one.

  12. change.org petition by MobyDisk · · Score: 2

    There is a petition at Change.org requiring the county school superintendent to apologize.
    https://www.change.org/p/dr-he...

    1. Re:change.org petition by Shatrat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, there was the Declaration of Independence, but those people followed up the petition with gunfire.

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  13. Not necessarily by Zontar_Thing_From_Ve · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow. Talk about a lawsuit that you are *guaranteed* to win.

    This guy is going to make millions.

    My best friend is an attorney and we've known each other for years. He has taught me a lot about how the law really works in the USA (I live in the US too by the way). Literally anything can happen in court. You may be right in that the odds may be good that he'll be able to sue and win, but it all depends on factors we can't control or predict. The judge the case gets is important. If it's a jury trial, the outcome may have more to do with the abilities of the lawyers involved than the actual merits of the case. Then if you don't like the verdict and appeal it, you go back to square one because some appellate judges tend to favor one side over the other. You get a really conservative appellate male judge in the Scalia mold and you could find that he'll basically allow the government to do anything if they feel that public safety was potentially at risk. Keep in mind too that the author may be greatly exaggerating what happened to him and what really happened may be a lot less sensational than the news report.

    1. Re:Not necessarily by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

      Keep in mind too that the author may be greatly exaggerating

      Keep in mind that nobody's spoken to the author. Sheriff Phillips is the one telling everyone that he "is currently at a location known to law enforcement and does not currently have the ability to travel anywhere."

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  14. Voltaire by MobyDisk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's awesome that his pen name was Voltaer which sounds like a reference to Voltaire who was fighting for civil rights and had his books burned.

    It sounds like this guy is brilliant. He was smart enough to use a pen name to hide his writings from his students, and also smart enough to choose a pen name that mocks anyone who uses these writings to defame him. Clearly, Voltaire should now be required reading by Dorchester county students.

    1. Re:Voltaire by Zeromous · · Score: 2

      I was beginning to think I was the only one who caught this. Put this in your pack for the next time you need to explain irony and coincidence with someone.

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  15. Has anyone actually READ the book? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I've only read the Amazon precis, but it *seems* like the shooting is a plot device against which the author has characters act and react. Not all that different than Nevil Shute using a nuclear war as the backdrop for "On The Beach."

    I am, frankly, of two minds about this. On one hand, possibly support a glory seaking attention hound. On the other, be tracked and branded as someone who "supports violence in schools" by buying the e-book. On the gripping hand, just read the thing myself and make up my own mind...

  16. Re:Don't Compare One Guy Getting Fired... by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They aren't comparing his getting fired to Soviet-style punishment. The comparison is to the forcing him, against his will, to "an emergency medical evaluation" in a location that only the police know of and won't release any details about. Making a guy disappear because he's suspected of bad behavior isn't something that's supposed to happen in the US. (That last statement might sound a bit naive. Take it as a goal for how our country should operate instead of the totalitarian method of just letting the authorities do whatever they want for whatever reason.)

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  17. Re:"rest of the story" by Charliemopps · · Score: 2

    (adding)

    According to people who claim to 'know more', he was using aliases for real life things like when he applied for the job, not just pseudonyms for writing. People claiming to be parents have also chimed in saying there was 'real fear' around this person, but I would not be surprised if this fear came after the board discovered his books as opposed to before.

    There are also claims he sent a 'disturbing letter' to the school board, but 'it was not their place to update with facts', so I am skeptical of the poster.

    yea, the only way this could really end up making any sense was that some old lady librarian at the school found his books, got concerned and went to the school-board/police... who had to talk to him for due diligence, and when they did talk to him, they found out completely by accident that the dude was actually nuts. Maybe he threatened suicide or took a swing at a cop? Getting someone committed is NOT easy, I've tried doing it before, it's nearly impossible.

    If they really committed him for writing 2 books, no matter how bad they are, this is completely off the rails insane.

  18. Re:Now I just have to ... by RDW · · Score: 2

    I want to read that novel.

    Check out the Amazon extract ('But amid all the despair and hopelessness, people were working indefatigably to stabilise the nation and alleviate the prevalent tumult; and on 28 August 2298, the sedulousness of these committed inidividual was recompensed.') and you might change your mind. Still, if the original article is accurate there's no justification for his treatment, and the implications are deeply disturbing. Have we been told the full story?

  19. Do Everything Wrong Day by RevWaldo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    There should be a Do Everything Wrong Day where students and teachers alike do things like play dodgeball, cops and robbers, offer pats on the back and hugs, bring copies of Mad Magazine and Guns and Ammo to school, call each other names, walk to school, say they look nice today, and so on and so on. Then everyone lodges official complaints against everyone else, so administrators now will either have to either suspend everyone and then crawl through hundreds if not thousands of hearings, or agree that a lot of the rules against these things are ludicrous if not completely anti-American.

    The slogan for the day? "If everyone is in trouble, nobody is."

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  20. Re:Now I just have to ... by Eunuchswear · · Score: 3, Funny

    But amid all the despair and hopelessness, people were working indefatigably to stabilise the nation and alleviate the prevalent tumult; and on 28 August 2298, the sedulousness of these committed inidividual was recompensed.

    Zow. This guy was supposed to be a "language-arts" teacher. I think we can clear the Sherifs department of any charges of overreacting, Patrick McLaw is obviously a danger to himself and society.

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  21. Stephen King and Rage by timrod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Stephen King did something very similar to this years and years ago, under virtually the same circumstances. He wrote a book called "Rage", under a pseudonym, which was about a fictional school shooting in a setting that would've amounted to the present when the book was written. Of course, the shooter in Rage was also portrayed sympathetically (he goes insane because all of his classmates are assholes). There were even cases where the shooters in actual school shootings were carrying around copies of Rage, which made him (voluntarily) pull the book from publication.

    Yet strangely, I don't recall anything about Stephen King being arrested in the middle of the night and involuntarily committed to a mental hospital.

    1. Re:Stephen King and Rage by MiniMike · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yet strangely, I don't recall anything about Stephen King being arrested in the middle of the night and involuntarily committed to a mental hospital.

      Yeah, just who do you think is going to voluntarily go to Steven King's house in the middle of the night?

  22. Re:"rest of the story" by jythie · · Score: 2

    Keep in mind, many of the regions in the first colonies were not founded due to a distrust of government, but of feeling government was not strict enough. Many of what would become states were chartered by people tired of not being able to oppress people in their own country and having to live with other religions so they created theocratic colonies. England had too much tolerance for their tastes.

  23. There might be more to this story by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be useful to know if McLaw is under investigation for behavior other than writing two novels

    Yes, it would be very useful to know that before people go writing articles about how this guy has been locked up (if that) for (and only for, seems to be the implication) writing two novels. Oop, too late.

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    1. Re:There might be more to this story by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      Yes, that seems fair. If you are in court for child sexual crimes telling the judge you stuck your penis up some girl's ass, and they put you in prison ... you should probably blame yourself for not mentioning that it was a couple weeks ago, in July, a month after she turned 18, instead of back in January when she was 17. It's an important detail.

      If the police are telling us they locked some guy up for writing novels... well, all the shit that comes their way is their fault. If something else is actually going on, they should tell us that; otherwise we will assume they are doing the most terrible things, abridging peoples's rights and abducting folks for having the wrong thoughts.

  24. Habeas corpus by DigitalSorceress · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, where is he now?

    How is it possible for a person to simply disappear and have their whereabouts listed as "known to law enforcement".

    IANAL, but it seems to me that someone with standing should file a writ of Habeas corpus because people should not just disappear like this in a first world country.

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    1. Re:Habeas corpus by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 2

      WE ALL HAVE STANDING! I am living in this state, what the fuck? If the police come to disappear me for writing a book or reading some novel they don't like or whatever, I will send bodies back. You can imagine the shitstorm this will start and how it will affect my quality-of-life.

      Do you know how many courts have ruled it self-defense to react to the police with lethal force if they try to arrest you wrongfully? In America we have dozens of these cases at state and federal levels, establishing clearly that the police may not cite you for a crime for violently resisting an illegal arrest; and that you can intervene and free a person from an illegal arrest even if the person being arrested is not himself resisting. This extends to the use of excessive force, especially dangerous force, in the course of a legal arrest.

      That means if you see the police beating someone and you run up with a baseball bat and drive them off--some seriously injured--the courts have decided that you were assisting a civilian being assaulted, as the police were using unnecessary and excessive force and jeopardizing life and limb of the suspect (even if he IS guilty of a crime!), and thus you are not guilty of a crime!

      Now think about this: Clash with the police, or disappear away with the police? You know this isn't going to end well either way, even given the above--the police might shoot you anyway, or the courts might ignore precedent, or they might weave some imaginative fantasy to use your legal self-defense as an example of how dangerous and unstable you were and thus how they were justified in coming to arrest you in the first place! Which one is going to be less shitty? Now consider that accepting this behavior in society subjects you to this Morton's fork. How does every single person in America *not* have standing in legal action against the police here?

  25. Reports are still too sketchy by aNonnyMouseCowered · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The reports (the Atlantic article is an opinion piece about the local reports regarding the incident) are too sketchy at this point to decide if there's a good probable cause for the teacher to be arrested (besides his having written a presumably controversial book, which is not a good reason for somebody in a presumably democratic country to get arrested).

    What it does reveal is the attitude of the local reporters who appear to be somewhat supportive or at the very least neutral to the police action. I know, a news report is supposed to be objective. But I don't see any mention in the quoted parts of the news reports about the teacher's free speech rights. The "first ammendment" comment is in the Atlantic article not the news reports. Since these are local news reporters they probably also reflect local biases. Possible threats to safety are given more importance than any free speech rights.

  26. Re:There's always a possibility of mental illness. by Feces's+Edge · · Score: 2

    The most likely explanation

    I don't see why that's the most likely explanation, and also don't see why that would justify this disgusting treatment even if it were true. I really see no reason to give authority figures the benefit of the doubt; it's wasted on them.

  27. Re:Now I just have to ... by Rick+Zeman · · Score: 2

    But amid all the despair and hopelessness, people were working indefatigably to stabilise the nation and alleviate the prevalent tumult; and on 28 August 2298, the sedulousness of these committed inidividual was recompensed.

    Zow. This guy was supposed to be a "language-arts" teacher. I think we can clear the Sherifs department of any charges of overreacting, Patrick McLaw is obviously a danger to himself and society.

    "It was a dark and stormy night...."

  28. Re:There's always a possibility of mental illness. by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    The most likely explanation is that the teacher's behavior had grown erratic and he had shown signs of mental disorder that caused grave concern in his co-workers and friends.

    Sorry, not buying that without any evidence to suggest it.

    I think the most likely explanation is that overly paranoid police have detained someone for a trumped up "emergency medical evaluation" because he wrote a book on a controversial topic, and because law enforcement can't accept that you could write a piece of fiction and not have it be a real threat.

    There is absolutely nothing in the linked article to suggest any crime (actual, imagined, or planned), or so suggest any link whatsoever with schizophrenia or any other mental illness.

    If law-enforcement authorities in Dorchester County have additional information that implicates McLaw in a crime, or in the planning of a crime, it is imperative that they release it immediately. As it stands now, they appear to be violating the constitutional rights of a citizen, and also, by the way, teaching the children of their county something awful about the power of fear over reason.

    And until such time as they actually do have some evidence, I'm going to take this as a gross over-reaction by the police and school board.

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  29. UNION? by srobert · · Score: 2, Insightful

    That's exactly why we must destroy what's left of the unions. As usual they're the last thing standing in the way of a fascist state.

  30. Re:Union? by iluvcapra · · Score: 2

    Yeah, I think we're missing a big chunk of the story. He constitutionally can't be held against his will unless he's being charged with a crime past a certain point (24 hours I think?)

    There is this thing called Involuntary Commitment, laws vary state by state. In Maryland they can hold you for up to 10 days as long as doctors sign off that you have a diagnosis. In the old days they could hold you indefinitely, a la One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest.

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  31. Re:This is a bit wrongfooted. by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

    They're looking for crazies that go on shooting sprees. What they should be doing is checking EVERYONE... not just people that publish books about school shootings while working at schools.

    I frankly don't have a problem with them investigating the guy so long as they do it respectfully. That said, everyone should be checked out. These mass shootings are just crazy people acting out. Nothing more.

    OR, and I know this is a long shot, but they could consider accepting that a free nation is an inherently dangerous one, and either accept that individuals have a right to live their lives without constantly being spied upon by a crazy government so paranoid it makes tweekers seem like reasonable people, or find some other, "safer" country to move to.

    I know - leaving other people to their business so long as it's not directly and immediately affecting you - crazy idea, right?

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  32. Re:Union? by sycodon · · Score: 2

    It is a mistake to think of this from a viewpoint on Unions/No Unions. The school has no power to have this man arrested. The school has no power to have him "medically evaluated". They have no power to prevent him from traveling and in fact cannot ban him from the campus without a court order.

    The State of Maryland is the most egregious offender here. THEY are the ones who have violated this man's rights. THEY are the ones who can apparently do this to anyone under the guise of security. The School is merely an excuse, an enabler of the State.

    If this issue is not resolved quickly, with the authorities paying lots and lots of money and government employees being punished in some manner, be afraid.

    Be Very Afraid. Because the jokes about the Soviet Union will no longer be so funny.

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  33. First press reports not very good. by Animats · · Score: 2

    The problem here is that the press reports are just rehashes of what the cops are putting out. Somebody should find this guy and interview him. He may be in hiding for reasons of his own.

    His book is self-published on Amazon. It's been out since 2011, and you can read a sample there. This guy is not the next Steven King. A typical sentence: "As Zea approaches her partner she cannot restrain herself from hyperventilating as she peers at the black embossed letters on the translucent glass sign above the entrance to the central atrium".

    Today, the Los Angeles Times quotes cops as saying "Everybody knew about the book in 2012", and that this is more about a four-page letter he recently sent to officials in Dorchester County, containing "complaints of alleged harassment and an alleged possible crime". There may be more clarity over the next few days, now that the story is getting attention.

  34. Re:Or he was actually crazy by scotts13 · · Score: 2

    We still don't have any facts, other than public officials covering their posteriors. We "know" he wrote a letter someone didn't like. Only that. You go to psych lockup for writing one letter these days?

    "McLaw's letter was of primary concern to healthcare officials, Maciarello says. It, combined with complaints of alleged harassment and an alleged possible crime from various jurisdictions led to his suspension. Maciarello cautions that these allegations are still being investigated; authorities, he says, "proceeded with great restraint."

    Alleged possible crime? As in, we don't know if it happened, and we're not sure it was a crime?