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Direct Sales OK Baked Into Nevada's $1.3 Billion Incentive Deal With Tesla

The new battery factory that Tesla has announced it will build in Nevada comes with some nice perks: specifically, with a package of tax incentives, road construction, and legislative protection from the kind of dealer cartels that have hindered Tesla's ability to sell cars in some other states. A Bloomberg wire story gives some details about the size of the deal that Nevada made to attract the company: The biggest chunk of the deal, Tesla's sales tax exemptions, is worth an estimated at $725 million. In addition, the company would save more than an estimated $300 million in payroll and other taxes through 2024. ... Among the bills approved in both houses was a provision phasing out and eliminating 1970s-era tax credits for insurance companies, which backers said would free up about $125 million over five years beginning in 2016 for transferable tax credits to Tesla. The package would also gut a pilot program approved just last year giving tax credits to the film industry, freeing up about $70 million for Tesla. ... Lawmakers also agreed to buy right of way to build a road connecting I-80 and U.S. 50, a project estimated to cost $43 million that will improve access to the industrial park from other regions of the state.

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  1. Why is this legal in the U.S.? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As a non-American, I find the notion a government exempting one specific company from one or several taxes bizarre. Is this really legal in the U.S.? Why?

    1. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by Kkloe · · Score: 5, Insightful

      as a non-american, your country probably has\makes the same deal with major industries, you probably just dont know about it

    2. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It happens regularly in this country. The taxpayers get the shaft so private industry doesn't have spend their money. Our football teams (U.S. football, not your football), when they need a new stadium, threaten to take their team to another city unless the taxpayers cough up their money to build the new stadium and related matters, while the team continues to charge exorbitant prices.

      This country wastes hundreds of billions of dollars each year by making sure private industry doesn't have to suffer the pangs of going out and getting financing for its projects like the rest of us do when we want to buy a home or do major repairs.

      Don't forget we used several trillion dollars to prop up our banks and financial firms when, through their own incompetence, our financial system went into meltdown. These folks then used the taxpayer money to give themselves bonuses for the great job they did AND have told us taxpayers to go pound sand any time it is mentioned they should thank us for protecting them.

      For all our talk about free markets and capitalism, we are incrementally closer to fascism than we are to a representative democracy. Industry, as a whole, gets what it wants, even if it means the taxpayers have to bend over and take it.

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    3. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 5, Informative

      This factory is expected to be gargantuan and will employ a great many smart people with good paying jobs. The factory will have a great many trucks going in and out. The money going to pay these people is coming from the income from a California company. So, well paid engineers will receive California money to purchase houses and furniture and food, etc. in NV. The engineers will pay sales taxes, property taxes, and will spend money in the casinos (I almost mentioned income taxes, until I remembered that NV doesn't have a state income tax--they have casinos instead). The calculus that NV is making with this deal is that the tax revenue it is giving up from Tesla will more than be made up for by the cut of the income they keep from the money that Tesla will pay to its employees and to NV truck drivers and suppliers, etc. The thought is that this will be a net positive for NV.

    4. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by SydShamino · · Score: 4, Insightful

      At least the tax breaks for Tesla make more sense than the ones for the film industry. States continuously try to attract film and television through massive incentive programs, but they only work if the state has one of the best packages at the time of filming a particular film or season.

      Texas had a good package for a while, and things were filmed here. Other states got better, and shooting moved to places like Louisiana. Right now Georgia has a great package and things like The Walking Dead and Archer are shot there, but don't for a moment think The Walking Dead wouldn't move to Louisiana or Arkansas or northern California if the incentives changed.

      It's much more difficult for Tesla to move their factory, since they'll have extensive immovable infrastructure costs. The film industry is used to packing up every 6-26 weeks as films or seasons end.

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    5. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by weilawei · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As an American, I also find it really fucked up.

    6. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by mspohr · · Score: 4, Informative

      In Nevada, they can't write a law exempting a specific company from taxes, etc. but to get around this they write the law with enough specifics to practically make it apply to only a specific company.
      In Tesla's case, the new law says "any company" which invests at least $3.5 billion and manufactures electric cars... etc. so theoretically another company could qualify for the exemption but not likely to find another company which meets all the criteria.

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    7. Re:Why is this legal in the U.S.? by mythosaz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      These poor Nevada citizens, winning the bidding war for thousands of new jobs, plus plenty of taxes than the ZERO they'd collect if Tesla went elsewhere.

      Poor, poor, Nevada.

  2. Re:The dealership model is broken by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Most options do not involve simple add-ons, but fundamentally different components or treatment (engine types, upholstery, paint colour). There is no such thing as a vanilla model.

    What you propose is essentially moving the final assembly to dealerships. That is much less efficient, it would require massive dealerships with massive investments and the only benefit would be that cars can be delivered somewhat quicker.

  3. Re:I never liked those state/city incentives by WillAdams · · Score: 4, Funny

    Now, now, you can't go criticizing sports teams when the N.F.L. is a non-profit organization which exists for the good of the game and to enhance the beneficial effects which the game has on society, right? I'm sure the goals of the other sports organizations are as noble and that their bookkeeping is similarly transparent.

    I'm sure that it's some bizarre, pestilential outside influence which has banned community ownership of teams (save for the grand-fathered-in Greenbay Packers) and required that a minimum percentage of a team be owned by a single individual.

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