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City of Turin To Switch From Windows To Linux and Save 6M Euros
jrepin writes: The municipality of Turin in Italy hopes to save 6 million Euro over five years by switching from Windows XP to Ubuntu Linux in all of its offices. The move will mean installing the open source operating system on 8,300 PCs, which will generate an immediate saving of roughly €300 per machine (almost €2.5m altogether, made up from the cost of Windows and Office licences) — a sum that will grow over the years as the need for the renewal of proprietary software licences vanishes, and the employees get used to the new machines.
Of course, when switching from one version of Windows to another version of Windows, the cost of training the average city employee to use that new version of Windows could buy you a dozen copies of Windows. Especially if you're factoring in training on the newer versions of Office.
The interface changes between Microsoft versions are as radical (or more radical) than the interface changes in transistioning between XP and Linux.
Ignorance killed the cat. Curiosity was framed.
Click this icon for the word processor, this one is the folder that contains all your work related documents. This icon is for web browsing, but stay off that unless you're on break. This is the menu icon down here in the lower left corner, just like you're used to, just look for the name of the program you need to run if it's not already on the desktop.
Click here, click there. It's all the same no mater what OS you're using. If it takes more than an hour to train the average employee how to to use a new OS with similar software, you need a new employee, that one's broken.
Now it may take a day or two to train the ones who create documents and a few days to a week to train those that write scripts/programs in it, but it is not going to cost more than the several hundred dollars (or Euros) it would cost for each user.
--- Keep the choice with the user..
It is more than E85 a year, as this is only the upfront cost, excluding renewal of licenses.
The amount is small on a per-employee basis, however that E6 mln that the city saves can now be used for other purposes. If there's no benefit of using Windows over Ubuntu, this E6 mln (or more, over time) becomes a waste of money. Explain that to your voters, why you'd throw millions of Euros to some foreign company for some unnecessarily expensive product!
And why all or nothing? Because it makes the work of the IT staff a lot easier. Standardise computers, give them all the same hardware and software, and the bulk of the office can do exactly what they have to do. Maybe put in some non-standard (higher end, different OS, whatever) machines in the mix for the people that really need this - this are probably also the people that need the least support, so not much of an issue there.
Language support. MS is American and only do English well. Any other language is a total clusterfsck on Windows.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
This installs PostgreSQL on kubuntu with all dependencies.
sudo apt-get install postgresql
You can do that from a GUI too. Same thing for mysql. We can argue about PostgreSQL/MySQL vs SQL Server but you would install sqlserver with sudo apt-get install sqlserver if MS made it run on Linux and cared about building a deb package for it. The Windows way of installing software is conceptually broken.
Language support. MS is American and only do English well. Any other language is a total clusterfsck on Windows.
That's kinda impressive - from experience, there aren't all that many Americans, that "do English well" :)
Why would you need to install individual apps on each computer? All enterprise apps use a browser interface these days.