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Drone-Based Businesses: Growing In Canada, Grounded In the US

An anonymous reader writes: As small drones become affordable, and as clever people come up with ideas on how to use them, we've been hearing about more and more plans for drone-based business. In the U.S., the Federal Aviation Administration was quick to shut down such ideas in order to give themselves time to regulate the nascent industry. Not so, in Canada. Thanks to a simple permit system, anyone wanting to use a drone for commercial purposes can do so in Canada by simply applying and waiting a few weeks. Around 1,500 of these permits have been granted already, and Canada's private drone industry is flourishing as a result. Drones have been used for agriculture analysis, TV production, real estate photography, law enforcement, and many other tasks.

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  1. So.... by flyneye · · Score: 4, Funny

    Are they going to use the drones to keep people from the states from border crossing illegally to Canada where the jobs are?
    Where will the Canadians go when we have taken up the service jobs that no one else wants? To the North Pole to fill in for Elf shit work?
    Will it be underpaid people from the states assembling these drones? Drones assembling drones? I could drone on and on.

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    1. Re:So.... by ThaumaTechnician · · Score: 5, Funny

      ...er, no. We're building an army of drones and the attendant expertise to fly them so we can use them to burn down your White House....again.

    2. Re:So.... by dryeo · · Score: 2

      The service jobs are already full of foreign workers though legal under the foreign workers program. Seems Canadians don't want to be abused for less then a living wage whereas you can hire a Filipino, put them to work in the wrong restaurant rather the one that they're legally allowed to work in and then threaten them with deportation to keep them on their toes. Gotta have cheap Timmies and coffee

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  2. Re:Do We Want Our Gov't to regulate the drones? by ScentCone · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Yes, and congress passed a law requiring the FAA to produce such regulations in a timely fashion due in this coming year. The administration has said they will not obey that law, and will not have such a framework in anything like the timely fashion required.

    In the meantime, the administration has published an "interpretation" of the 2012 law that says they take it to mean more or less the exact opposite of its plain intent, and they are busy getting ready to fine people for doing things like participating in RC competitions (you know, like we've been having for decades) that happen to involve things like $20 cash prizes ... because that's commercial drone use! The employees of US-based companies that have for years stepped out back of their shops to test-fly a new RC airplane or multirotor will, according to the Obama administration's new interpretation, be breaking the law and subject to substantial fines for being paid to fly unmanned aerial systems. We can't have that! Quick! Shut down all of those businesses and jobs! Chase those retailers out of the country!

    It's preposterous. We're not just dragging behind the rest of the world, we're actively taking steps backwards. The administration is deliberately, purposefully, putting the brakes on what would otherwise be a multi-billion dollar industry full of innovation and attractive to STEM-types in this country. The left's instinct to Nanny State their way down into every last aspect of what someone might do to conduct some business (hey, kid, quit flying your $250, 2-pound plastic quad-copter with a cheap camera over your neighbor's roof because he asked you to, and said he'd give you $25 to get pictures of his roof gutters for him - if you don't cease and desist such commercial UAV operations, that's going to be a $10,000 fine!) means they can't simply clone the sort of framework that the UK or Canada have long had in place ... no, there's got to be a way to make it all MORE miserable, MORE expensive, MORE punitive, and nearly impossible for small entrepreneurs to get into - because otherwise we might miss out on some more federal fees, and intrusive paperwork.

    And as usual, the very idiots that we'd most worry about anyway, who will be getting a drone from Amazon tomorrow and flying it over a park full of kids an hour later without any understanding of safe operations or good manners, will completely ignore the FAA's rules/guidance/regs anyway. The government, which is here to help you, will only be placing the painful burden and expense on the very people who are the most responsible anyway: those with a lot to lose because they're in business to use the technology.

    More Hope and Change, hard at work for our economy. Yes, Obama's man Huerta at the FAA is a political appointee and that aspect of the food chain lays the FAA's entire posture on this squarely at the door of the White House.

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  3. Leave it to the Canadians to be sensible... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    As a researcher in the U.S. at a public university who's developing the use of UAS as an aerial remote sensing platform, having the FAA dragging its feet on coming up with a sensible solution is fueling a growing disservice to our nation's students. It's been recommended that we don't involve students or conduct any testing with our *government funded* grants in the U.S. (so we're doing it outside the country) that employ such technology for fear of being classed a commercial use and risking the hassle of dealing with the regulatory fall-out of attracting FAA attention. And that's even with us performing best-practices that any commercial pilot would be conducting (logs, flight plans, equipment checklists, etc.). Red-tape is killing any edge we might have had in developing and employing this tech. If the government isn't careful we're going to need another trade agreement and subsidies to be competitive by the time the regulations fall in place.

  4. Regulation == Profit . . . for somebody by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The government can earn money from regulation fees, someone can use regulation to stifle competition . . . so regulation is also about profit . . . for somebody.

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  5. Re:Do We Want Our Gov't to regulate the drones? by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 3, Informative

    So basically what you're saying is humans are flawed, so we need some flawed humans to make rules for the rest of the flawed humans?

    Yes, because some humans are way more flawed than others.

    Here in Vancouver, flawed humans are flying drones around jets landing at our airport. Less flawed humans are making rules around that, which is OK by me.

  6. Justice Sonia Sotomayor is against drones by SternisheFan · · Score: 2
    Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor says that without proper privacy safeguards, the advancement of technology could lead to a world like the one portrayed in "1984" by George Orwell.

    Speaking to Oklahoma City University faculty and students, the justice said Thursday that technology has allowed devices to "listen to your conversations from miles away and through your walls." She added: "We are in that brave new world, and we are capable of being in that Orwellian world, too."

    The President Obama appointee also discussed the lack of privacy standards concerning drones.

    "There are drones flying over the air randomly that are recording everything that’s happening on what we consider our private property. That type of technology has to stimulate us to think about what is it that we cherish in privacy and how far we want to protect it and from whom. Because people think that it should be protected just against government intrusion, but I don’t like the fact that someone I don’t knowcan pick up, if they’re a private citizen, one of these drones and fly it over my property."

    http://arstechnica.com/tech-po...

  7. Screwdriver analogy by Solandri · · Score: 2

    Screwdrivers can be used for many constructive commercial purposes. They can also be used to break into a house. Do you ban the sale and use of screwdrivers out of fear of house break-ins? Ideally the answer should be based on the net difference in productivity gains from constructive uses minus losses from break-ins. Unfortunately that's not what I'm seeing. Drones are being banned out of paranoia with no consideration for the positive ways they can contribute to the economy and our lives.

    We've even got the default state wrong. Absent a clear Constitutional rationale for banning drones, they are (or at least should be) legal to use and operate. "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

    (Disclaimer: A friend needed overhead pictures of his rural commercial property at higher-than Google Maps resolution, and asked me to take the pictures. We had to rent a helicopter at $750/hr. Due to the cost, we had to rush and the pictures though usable weren't as ideal as we'd have liked. For the approx $1200 we paid, we could've bought our own drone and tried this as many times as we liked until the pictures were perfect. So the beneficial uses of drones are pretty damn obvious to me.)

  8. Re:Do We Want Our Gov't to regulate the drones? by ScentCone · · Score: 2

    Out of hundreds of such discussions that pop up on easy Google searches ...

    http://www.modelaircraft.org/a...

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