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School Installs Biometric Fingerprint System For Cafeteria

An anonymous reader writes with news about a school in England that has introduced a cashless cafeteria system that is raising some privacy concerns among some. Stourbridge students will soon be able to pay for their lunch without searching their pockets for change. Redhill School has spent £20,000 updating its dining facilities and introducing a cashless catering system. The system will allow parents to deposit funds into students catering accounts, to be debited by the pupil's biometric fingerprint scan at the point of sale. Headteacher Stephen Dunster said: "The benefits are that pupils are less likely to lose cash, parents know their children are using their dinner money to buy nutritious food and there will also be a system to alert staff if students are purchasing food that they may be allergic to."

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  1. Sigh. by ledow · · Score: 5, Informative

    I work in IT in English schools.

    Welcome to a decade ago.

    I've worked in several schools that have biometric library systems and the move to cashless canteens has been underway for years (I've never happened to work with one, but that's not because they aren't around).

    It is sold as preventing bullying, stopping you having to pay for the cards, etc. The privacy implications came up 10-15 years ago. Nobody, especially parents, really cared.

    Hell, five years ago, my daughter's creche had fingerprint entry (I refused to take part, mainly because I saw it as insecure given I could gummi-bear the reader and enter as whoever came in last, but I was apparently the first to complain).

    Old news people. It's already in schools all over the UK. There was minimal protest.

  2. Easy up now by Anonymice · · Score: 5, Informative

    Two things...

    First off, British schools don't have "rent-a-cops", security scanners or ID cards, this is an American thing. The hardest security you'll come across in a school in the UK is the school gate.

    Secondly, the biometrics are just an additional method of payment, it's entirely optional. No one's stopping you from paying in cash. If I was tasked with setting up a hassle free method of tracking kids deductions from their pre-paid balance, this would likely be the route I'd go too. It's far cheaper to buy 2-3 scanners than to kit the whole school out with RFID tags, and it doesn't come with the inevitable hang-up of things getting lost, stolen or forgotten.
    There's not much risk of the data being shared outside the school, as even the police aren't allowed to store biometric records of anyone without an active criminal record.

  3. Re:Not about ease, about authority by TWX · · Score: 3, Informative

    Schools maintain a photographic record of their students already.

    A cafeteria would need a device of some kind in either system.

    Existing POS software for school cafeterias already can cross-reference the enrollment records and photos.

    Troubleshooting a system that's widely implemented beyond the cafeteria is also easier, as the people that maintain the ID database, the enrollment records database, and the POS system already exist. They'd either have to take-on new duties or would have to hire someone else.

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  4. Re:Not about ease, about authority by ninjabus · · Score: 3, Informative

    Exactly. I paid for a school lunch using a similar account linked to a PIN 20 years ago. When a kid forgot their pin, the cashier looked their name up in a binder to enter it correctly. There is no need for account security if the maximum withdrawal rate is 1 lunch per day.

  5. Re:Not about ease, about authority by ganjadude · · Score: 4, Informative

    I was in HS from 99 to 03. We had ID cards, but we didnt need them for anything. I didnt think anything of it

    Jr year (2002-2002) the security guards started not allowing students in without showing ID. Now, the security guard knew damn near every kid in school (we had a full HS of under 500 people) but no student was allowed in without the id.

    Tell me, what good reason is there for that other than getting the students more used to submitting to authority? If the security guard didnt know the student fine, but if he did he STILL had to check every single ID.

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  6. Re:Sucks to be a criminal... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    You get on it just for being arrested.

  7. Re:Not about ease, about authority by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Informative

    No, its about teachers having no friggen clue what their job is.

    Running the cafeteria is not the teacher's job.

    What better life lesson is there than "Lose your money, you don't eat."?

    At least in California, it is illegal for the school to let a child go hungry. If they don't have money in their account, then it goes into deficit, and they send emails nagging the parent. I know this because I forgot to fund my kid's account a few times. Most parents pay for the lunches on line, so very few kids have cash for bullies to steal.