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School Installs Biometric Fingerprint System For Cafeteria

An anonymous reader writes with news about a school in England that has introduced a cashless cafeteria system that is raising some privacy concerns among some. Stourbridge students will soon be able to pay for their lunch without searching their pockets for change. Redhill School has spent £20,000 updating its dining facilities and introducing a cashless catering system. The system will allow parents to deposit funds into students catering accounts, to be debited by the pupil's biometric fingerprint scan at the point of sale. Headteacher Stephen Dunster said: "The benefits are that pupils are less likely to lose cash, parents know their children are using their dinner money to buy nutritious food and there will also be a system to alert staff if students are purchasing food that they may be allergic to."

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  1. We had by cyborg666 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    We had biometrics in our school 15 years ago, in Sweden.

  2. just prepay for food by alen · · Score: 4, Interesting

    in my kid's school in the USA the only way to pay for school lunch is to send a check once a month. no check, no lunch, no lost money, no tracking

    1. Re:just prepay for food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem is, all kids REQUIRE a lunch regardless of the parent's ability financially or mentally to prepay for them. It's a function of education to keep kids alive, not to mention focused.

    2. Re: just prepay for food by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      UNLESS THEY DO NOT. The kid still needs to be fed for school to be functional.

  3. Great idea! by DaMattster · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I'd like to see this system implemented in The States. It basically circumvents the school yard bully from stealing lunch money from would-be victims.

  4. Re:Slippery slope by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Already happens in the UK.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_National_DNA_Database

    Fucking sucks. I'm on it, despite committing no crime or ever having been charged with one!

  5. Re:Not about ease, about authority by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Interesting

    No, its about teachers having no friggen clue what their job is. What better life lesson is there than "Lose your money, you don't eat."?

  6. Re:Not about ease, about authority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Schools maintain a photographic record of their students already.

    Okay - and? Have you ever looked at a photo of a child at the beginning and end of a 9-month school year? They grow fast, and change *dramatically* over the course of 9 months. If you have to perform a match between "little Johnny" today and a grainy photo of "little Johnny" 9 months ago, that's not as easy as you make it sound - especially when you have about 3 seconds or so to make that determination. And using a swiped ID card still doesn't address the problem of "I lost my ID," or "I forgot my ID at home," or "somebdy stole my ID on the bus / at recess."

    Pretty hard to imagine "forgetting" your fingerprints... also hard to imagine no raised eyebrows if somebody walks up with a severed finger and tries to use that to pay.

    Existing POS software for school cafeterias already can cross-reference the enrollment records and photos.

    Great, and nothing's stopping that from happening now - in addition to a photo record, the administration will take a fingerprint, and tie that to the student's records. Then at the cafeteria terminal, the student will present their finger (rather than a possibly-lost-or-stolen ID card).

    Troubleshooting a system that's widely implemented beyond the cafeteria is also easier

    ... says the guy who's never integrated 3 different systems owned by 3 different departments of a bureaucratic local government before.

    They'd either have to take-on new duties or would have to hire someone else.

    Why? To attach a fingerprint scanner to the POS terminal, instead of a magnetic card reader? That's the ONLY difference in the system you're proposing - don't use fingerprints, use a card instead. The integration of these systems has to happen anyway, the token - be it a card or a fingerprint - has to be registered at the POS terminal. Except you can lose a card easily. Much harder to lose fingerprints - which means... the child is less likely to go hungry because they lost a card.

  7. Re:Not about ease, about authority by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Yes, we can't have people learning to defend themselves from robbery, when the authorities have repeatedly ignored it (or threatened to punish both victim and aggressor in a 'zero tolerance' policy). I mean, if we have people who learn to take care of themselves, how are we supposed to be able to justify our sprawling police state?

  8. Re:Not about ease, about authority by jsrjsr · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The last time I bought alcohol, I happened to have my 17-year-old son with me. The cashier wanted to see his ID as well as mine. She wasn't going to sell to me because he was with me! Said it was the stores new policy. I asked to speak with the manager, who confirmed that it was the store policy. When I told him this policy was stupid, he backed down and sold me the alcohol. This "It's for the CHILDREN!" crap has got to stop!