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Astronomers Find Star-Within-a-Star, 40 Years After First Theorized

derekmead writes: After 40 years, astronomers have likely found a rather strange celestial body known as a Thorne–Zytkow object (TZO), in which a neutron star is absorbed by a red supergiant. Originally predicted in the 1970s, the first non-theoretical TZO was found earlier this year, based on calculations presented in a paper forthcoming in MNRAS.

TZOs were predicted by astronomer Kip Thorne and Anna Zytkow, who wasthen postdoctoral fellow at CalTech. The pair imagined what might happen if a neutron star in a binary system merged with its partner red supergiant. This wouldn't be like two average stars merging. Neutron stars are the ancient remnants of stars that grew too big and exploded. Their cores remain small — about 12.5 miles across — as they shed material out into space. Red supergiants are the largest stars in the galaxy, with radii up to 800 times that of our sun, but they aren't dense.

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  1. The merging must be dramatic by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Just imagine a block of the most dense visible thing in the universe crashing into a star so large you could fit a good chunk of the inner solar system in.

    I can't be the only person who'd want to watch that firework display.

  2. Tequila Sunrise? by TWX · · Score: 3, Funny

    Sounds like a mixed-drink with specific gravity setup...

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  3. Yo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yo Dawg, we heard you like stars.

  4. The merging must be dramatic, explosive even... by TiggertheMad · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I was thinking the same thing, it would be an interesting event to witness. The only sad thing about living when we do, is we will never get to watch solar collisions from under 100 AU.

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  5. Re:Wait, these are for real? by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Informative

    - Is the research reliable?

    Well, the Monthly Notices of the Royal Astronomy Society is one of the longest running astronomy journals in the world, and, to my knowledge, has never done anything substantial to impugn its reputation. It also has a comparatively large impact factor. All signs that the peer review is considered of good quality.

    - How can such a thing be stable? Is there any particular process that keeps one star inside the other?

    Why wouldn't it be stable? More gravity means more fusion, not less.
    The theory says it's a companion star that goes nova, and then is gradually de-orbitted into the larger gas giant.

    - What even /is/ such a body? If you were to travel from the outside to the midpoint of the body, would you encounter two barriers of destructing heat, with some emptiness (I'd like to say "vacuum" but of course space is not exactly a vacuum) in between?
    Or is it actually just something entirely unlike what you would imagine when someone says "star within a star"?

    Oh, and just now I realize you hadn't read the summary. It's a neutron star inside a star. A neutron star is essentially a block of neutronium(essentially a gigantic neutron only nucleus) with some attached hanger on high energy plasma around.

  6. It is not stable by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 4, Informative

    It lasts for several hundred thousand years but the red giant is eventually absorbed into the neutron star which becomes a slightly larger neutron star or possibly a black hole.

    So the red giant is just a big meal that takes a while to eat. But if you look around enough, you can find one in the middle of its course.

  7. Readers Find Post-Within-Post by jovius · · Score: 5, Funny
  8. Re:Wait, these are for real? by Himmy32 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One is a neutron Star. So a object multiple times more dense than the Sun but only a 5-15 miles wide. The other a red giant (when our Sun becomes a red giant it'll be as big as Earth's orbit). So the first barrier you would cross working for the middle is a iron polymer a million times stronger than steel as you crossed out of the tiny tiny neutron star into the absolutely enormous red giant. An analogy would be a BB gun pellet inside of a balloon.

  9. Re:Wait, these are for real? by Nimey · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ^^^ That's a place where "average" can be quite deceiving. The sun's atmosphere is rarefied but its core's density is up to 150 g/cm3, or 150x that of water.

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  10. Re:Wait, these are for real? by I'm+New+Around+Here · · Score: 4, Funny

    Guns don't shoot guns. Guns that shoot guns shoot guns.

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