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FCC Chairman: Americans Shouldn't Subsidize Internet Service Under 10Mbps

An anonymous reader writes On Wednesday at a hearing in front of the US House Committee on Small Business, FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler stated that for ISPs to be eligible for government broadband subsidies, they would have to deliver speeds of at least 10 Mbps. Said Wheeler: "What we are saying is we can't make the mistake of spending the people's money, which is what Universal Service is, to continue to subsidize something that's subpar." He further indicated that he would remedy the situation by the end of 2014. The broadband subsidies are collected through bill surcharges paid for by phone customers.

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  1. Re:well, duh? by Xicor · · Score: 3, Informative

    the building of infrastructure isnt the problem. with the exception of rural areas, everywhere in the US already has fiber optic cable capable of getting gigabit speeds. the issue we have is that each ISP has its own little area with no competition.. why would they charge 70$ per month for gigabit(like google) when they can charge 50$ a month for 20Mbit

  2. Re:well, duh? by Xicor · · Score: 4, Informative

    The EU is much less lenient on monopolies.

  3. We have by dutchwhizzman · · Score: 4, Informative

    All of Europe has internet and it's faster and cheaper even in the most remote areas. Actually, you should try building out the infrastructure of *our* size and then get back to us.

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  4. Re:well, duh? by jratcliffe · · Score: 3, Informative

    "everywhere in the US already has fiber optic cable capable of getting gigabit speeds"

    If you define "has" as "has within a mile," then you're absolutely correct. If you define it as "has passing the home," then definitely not.

  5. Re: I never thought I'd say this... by Mitsoid · · Score: 5, Informative

    Yes, but at the same time, paying for an internet line to be run to your house can actually cost more than your house in rural areas... Note: The price of the work, and for the final service, is often determined by the monopoly carrier for your area.

    My grandfather was quoted $4000 to run a coax cable 500 feet to the street (which was up and running) to his home. His only other option was 36k dial up (too far north, and too many trees, for satellite). He's retired now (has been for decades), and while he lives comfortably in his home on his retirement, he can't afford an extra "luxury" expense like this.

    Recently, my co-worker was quoted $60,000 to get internet brought to his rural community... per home... and required 2 dozen people within a 3-mile radius to sign a 3-year contract and agree to also pay that 'set up fee'. Their other option? Satellite (which has a 25GB download limit). The area is sanctioned monopoly.

    Now, if you are ALSO living in a rural area where the average ~5 yr experience IT/programming/database job is $45-55,000, spending $60,000 for internet is a bit ridiculous... and not offset by your 'city wages in a rural area'

  6. Re: I never thought I'd say this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I have multi-Mbits broadband in my cottage house in Finland, which is on an island, and the closed town is 40 min. drive. Also multi-Mbits broadband in Swiss mountains. I used to envy US broadband services 10-15 years ago when it was better than here, now it's the opposite. I pity you.

  7. Re: I never thought I'd say this... by volmtech · · Score: 4, Informative

    Twenty years ago I had a job laying TV cable. I was using a shovel and could do 200 ft in an hour. I got $20. Any farther than that and they got a guy with a power trencher. A 1000 ft roll of RG11 is $150. Should cost about $300 to do that job. One time I had an easy 300 ft install. The utility company had used an industrial trencher to install the electrical service underground to a new house. I just dropped my cable in the five ft deep trench. An easy $30.

  8. Re: I never thought I'd say this... by jimbolauski · · Score: 3, Informative

    The problem is the people that "don't feel like busting ass" are not incentivized to contribute to society. They get free food, shelter, clothes, cell phones, medical services,... and are not required to contribute at all. When you reward lazy behavior more people are lazy, you then get to a point where the people footing the bill refuse to work hard because their hard work just goes to the lazy people.

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  9. Re: I never thought I'd say this... by mi · · Score: 3, Informative

    You people and your protestant work ethic. I just don't get it.

    Neah, I'm a USSR-raised atheist, thank you very much.

    Clearly the hundreds of billionaires we have in this country couldn't possibly afford to fund this kind of utopia

    The cost of the "War on Poverty", since Lyndon Johnson first waged it 50 years ago, is 22 trillion of 2012-vintage dollars. That's more than all of the Republic's actual (as in military) wars cost combined. I don't think, the hundreds of billionaires could shoulder that kind of expense. They'd need help from thousands of millionaires — and millions of the rest of us. And even that would be insufficient — you'd need to borrow money from abroad...

    But whoever wants to help others work less than their spending requires, is welcome to do it. My objection is to spending tax-monies (you know, the funds collected at gunpoint) on it. For it is not only stupid, it is also un-Constitutional — according to an educated opinion of one of the document's very authors:

    “I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents.”

    —James Madison

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