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Study Links Pacific Coastal Warming To Changing Winds

tranquilidad writes: In a paper published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, two authors ascribe the majority of northeast pacific coastal warming to natural atmospheric circulation and not to anthropogenic forcing. In AP's reporting, Ken Caldeira, an atmospheric scientist with the Carnegie Institution for Science, says the paper's authors, "...have not established the causes of these atmospheric pressure variations. Thus, claims that the observed temperature increases are due primarily to 'natural' processes are suspect and premature, at best." The paper's authors, on the other hand, state, "...clearly, there are other factors stronger than the greenhouse forcing that is affecting...temperatures," and that there is a "surprising degree to which the winds can explain all the wiggles in the temperature curve."

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  1. WRONG!!! by dlt074 · · Score: -1, Troll

    if it's not because of MAN, then it's not real science and these religious zealots should be dismembered.

    heretics.

     

  2. But - what's changing the winds? by mveloso · · Score: 0, Troll

    But - but - what's changing the winds so the coast is warming? Global warming! Duh!

    Warming is warming, unless there's no warming. Then it's still warming, but a different kind of warming than the other warming. I mean change.

  3. Off with their heads! by mi · · Score: 1, Troll

    In a paper published by the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, two authors ascribe the majority of northeast pacific coastal warming to natural atmospheric circulation and not to anthropogenic forcing.

    People questioning Global Warming — and the humans' responsibility for it — are traitors and war-criminals, contemptible human beings, who ought to be punished.

    Science is settled! People demand show trials NOW!!

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    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
  4. Demanders! by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 0, Troll

    There are those, who, in spite of evidence to the contrary, DEMAND that there be global warming, and DEMAND that it be caused by man.

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  5. Re:"Belief" is not part of the scientific method by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 0, Troll

    Hypothesis, prediction, and observation. You know, actual science.

    Except for the prediction part, which is pretty bad.

    I would not want climate scientists as my investment advisers.

  6. Re:"Belief" is not part of the scientific method by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1, Troll

    OK ... then how many spare earths have you run through climate change experiments?

    I just find it ironically amusing that people are the most publicly smug about science that they can't experimentally test.

  7. Re:"Belief" is not part of the scientific method by Pino+Grigio · · Score: -1, Troll

    Why is this guy being marked "troll"? He's right. The predictions made by climate botherers have been absolutely terrible. Even the IPCC has been dialling back climate sensitivity. I remember when a "researcher" (although a scientist I use that term in its broadest possible sense) managed to get 15C out of his brand new model we were all encouraged to run at home. Absolutely ridiculous. But it was front page news. Can you believe that?

    Perhaps as well as dialling back on the sensitivity the climate bothering fraternity should also dial back on the alarm. But I'm not sure how they can do that without also dialling back on institutional grant funding from central government. What a dilemma.