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The Single Vigilante Behind Facebook's 'Real Name' Crackdown

Molly McHugh sends this story from Daily Dot: When Facebook issued an apology this week for suspending user accounts that had what it alleged to be fake names, it pinned the whole debacle on one person. This "individual," Facebook reasoned, sewed confusion into its flawed reporting system—intended to protect against bullying and online abuse. Facebook Chief Product Officer Chris Cox explains that Facebook was caught “off guard” by a lone actor who reported “several hundred” accounts as fake. According to our source, who claims to have spent "hours and hours" systematically reporting Facebook users from the drag community and beyond, thousands of accounts were suspended—and they've been at it for weeks. ... Given the timing and the accounts suspended, they believe that they are in fact the mystery "individual" who threw a wrench into Facebook's system, noted in Facebook's explanation of the events. "Considering the hours and hours I spent reporting accounts over the course of the past month, it is likely that I am."

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  1. TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From the article:
    "Oh no I'm very serious. Spent most of my time at work past 3 days reporting Queens."

    Considering I spend my Friday midnight completing shellshock patches to keep this planet running ... Can we start firing people who are useless to the world in general?

    1. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Can we start firing people who are useless to the world in general?

      That would be all of us - the world got by just fine before our species even existed, and likely will again when it's gone.

    2. Re:TFA by quenda · · Score: 5, Funny

      - the world got by just fine before our species even existed, and likely will again when it's gone.

      How can the world get by, when noone is there to anthropomorphise it?

    3. Re:TFA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      LOL. OK Cowboy, you sure know what you're talking about, right? Patch 'em up! Move 'em out! I got places to see and people to do, or something. You seriously have no clue what you're talking about if you think a Fortune 500 company's just gonna blat out a patch untested across their environment and call it a day. You know how I can tell you've never had to deal with a regulator or the SEC? Jesus H. Effing Christ, man. No doubt you'd be the first body on the dogpile when a Wall Street firm did use apt and applied a bunch of patches and broke something. "They should have proper controls and testing! Duh! *Everyone* knows that."

  2. What an asshole by blankinthefill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't see what this person could have to gain from this other than just being a dickhead. Heaven forbid someone be different from what your approved normal is. What a pathetic jerk.

    1. Re:What an asshole by Teresita · · Score: 4, Informative

      The late unlamented Fred Phelps and his crew took any expression of disgust and outrage against him as evidence they were doing the Lord's work. That's how these folks think.

    2. Re:What an asshole by Pinky's+Brain · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Picking on the LGBT community with this is probably the most effective way of combatting the policy ...

    3. Re:What an asshole by lgw · · Score: 5, Interesting

      What's a "real name"? The name that you insist everyone calls you would be my definition. "Don't call me by my government"

      Real name policies are BS anyhow - very Western Firstname Lastname centric, ignorant of cultures where the only unique name for someone is the list of all the names they're known by (which, as you might imagine, makes printed phone books less than useful).

      One of the great truisms of software development is that there's no universal way to break down a persons name into components, and people get really pissed when you get their name wrong.

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    4. Re:What an asshole by khasim · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm more concerned that Facebook didn't have a process in place to monitor for OBVIOUS abuses.

      1. Hundreds of complaints filed.

      2. From a single account.

      3. In a defined time period.

      4. All the victims shared a common trait.

      #1 & #2 should have been red flags over and Over and OVER and OVER. How many complaints does the average user file? Why wasn't this flagged with that person hit 2x the average? 5x? 10x? 20x? 50x? 100x?

    5. Re:What an asshole by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Thing is, he was not reporting random fake names he came across. He was reporting fake names from a specific group of people, and you might say he was going out of his way to find fake names from this specific group. Does this sound like a vigilante bent on making sure only real names are being used on FB, or like someone who stumbled across a way to cause grief for a group of people he dislikes, and milking it for all it's worth?

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    6. Re:What an asshole by CaptainDork · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You are the reason we can't have nice things like anonymity and common fucking sense.

      Facebook is not a government entity. It is an entertainment site and its rules are about as authentic as your IQ.

      Facebook's goal is to validate its user base because advertisers are learning that while Facebook brags about having over 1 billion members, some of those are bogus.

      Facebook has no legal authority regarding whether name are real or not.

      The site is free and the only recourse Facebook has is to block shit.

      The sooner you learn that you are Facebook's bitch, the better.

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    7. Re:What an asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      The average is probably less than 1, hell, the 99th percentile is probably less than 1. It sounds really easy in theory, but these sorts of things really are only reported by busybodies that will stick out in any statistical analysis. For that matter, he was doing what Facebook WANTED according to their stated policy, that is until it became a political hot potato for them and they caved.

    8. Re:What an asshole by ihtoit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Facebook isn't a free website, you're voluntarily surrendering your privacy and anonymity in order to use it - which is the entire reason behind the real name policy. That data sink with the blue banner is there to collect identifiable information about YOU and how you interact online, and sell that information on to people and companies who want nothing else but to sell you shit through persistent and targetted advertising.

      You are in a dreamworld if you think for one second that Facebook gives a shit for your privacy, and the RNP absolutely proves the point.

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    9. Re:What an asshole by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It seems that the individual who reported the aliases (non-real names) to Facebook was only reporting people who violated the TOS from Facebook users.

      That, without a lot more information, does not qualify this person as "an asshole", "a dickhead" or "a pathetic jerk". It does seem to qualify you as those three, though.

      No, it means that you're too lazy to bother reading what's out there about this person - who admits, even glorifies, in targeting a specific community - members of the LGBT community. In one tweet, they even call transvestites sodomites, even though the vast majority of cross-dressers are heterosexual males. Then when all hell broke loose, they went after people with accounts for their pets, probably to make it look less like they had been targeting a specific group based on their sexual or gender expression.

      There was a time when I was transitioning when I didn't have the necessary documentation to back up my new identity. Can you understand the chilling effect this would have on people who are following their doctor's orders, who have told friends and family that they're getting a sex change, but who, because of a mis-application of facebook's policy, would still have to use their old, gender-inappropriate name? Or would just drop out of sight entirely at the time when they are most in need of their network of friends?

      This person needs to either get a life or get help.

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    10. Re: What an asshole by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 4, Informative

      On Brazil we simply do not break the name when using it on a local created software, is always the full name on a single field. (And is anoying for us using foreign software in this detail)

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    11. Re:What an asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

      Oh good. I didn't even know my goin was injured.

    12. Re:What an asshole by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      > OK, I stopped reading at the ad hominem

      I'm kind of tired of people misusing that term.

      Ad hominem: "Your argument is wrong because you are a dickhead."
      Insult: "You are a dickhead because your argument is wrong."

      OK?

    13. Re:What an asshole by ihtoit · · Score: 3, Interesting

      not quite. A Statutory Declaration, which what you're referring to to give its proper name, is signed by two witnesses or a Notary. This is simply a declaration that you're using a new name, possibly one which you're already using and by which people know you, and that you disavow any future usage of your previous name. A Deed Poll (or to give its proper name, a Change of Name Deed) is countersigned by a Magistrate and given weight by a Judicial Seal.

      (I've acted as a sig witness many times).

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    14. Re:What an asshole by sumdumass · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Phelps was a smash and grab lawsuit factory. They purposely intended to incite people hiding behind religious freedom in the hopes someone would retaliate in a way they could sue and gang band big bucks. It's probably nothing like what was going through this asshats head.

      Instead, it is likely more related to the why only me mentality.
      Many of you might have suffered it yourself. It's like in school when everyone is talking instead of reading and one person gets singled out by the teacher and that person objects because everyone else was doing it too. It's like following the flow of traffic with ten cars in front of you and ten cars behind you and the cop single you out to give a speeding ticket- why is he busting me and letting everyone else go?

      This guy likely had some super cool name he had to change from and use his real name instead which was less cool and was pissed because others were getting by with using fake names. I've had that happen before in games, one game, you had to use English in your profiles or provide a translation, one kid got busted using his native Croatian and went around reporting everyone else' profile that were not in English and didn't have a translation (which took up space in the profile shortening what you could put in it). The rules stated there was an exception if the non-English phrase was common enough to be understood but "For rent, agent of death- caveat emptor" got me a 2 day ban because of him.

    15. Re:What an asshole by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Interesting

      No, it means that you're too lazy to bother reading what's out there about this person - who admits, even glorifies, in targeting a specific community - members of the LGBT community.

      Why do the police target criminals? It's SO UNFAIR!!!

      Oh, wait, he targets the people who are violating the TOS.

      Deal with it.

      It's been dealt with - facebook has decided that this was not, in fact, a violation of their TOS. People are allowed to use the name they are commonly known to the world by. So everyone who knows Billy-Bob and Mary-Ann from high school doesn't have to search for William Robert and Maria Anastasia.

      Can you understand the chilling effect this would have on people who are following their doctor's orders, who have told friends and family that they're getting a sex change, but who, because of a mis-application of facebook's policy, would still have to use their old, gender-inappropriate name?

      No, because I can't understand what kind of horrible doctor would order anyone to do something that insane.

      What? Order someone to live for a year in their target gender before getting a sex change? It gives time to create a supportive environment with our job, friends, family, before doing anything permanent. And finding out who our real friends are, time to adapt to the hormonal changes and the emotional changes they can trigger, and being able to have a job after surgery, because just walking into work without giving everyone a heads-up in advance will create problems. Or, if work doesn't accept the situation, get a new job in our new gender right from the get-go.

      Or if you think that the whole idea of transsexuals getting a sex change is horrible, well, we'll just have to disagree on that, for obvious reasons :-)

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    16. Re:What an asshole by Oligonicella · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have to agree with the other commenter. You're no one special that can guarantee with absolute certainty that no personal agenda would be carried out. And actually, "hate speech" is many times used as a political cover. A very common tactic of the SJW. What you define as hate speech I may not and vice versa.

    17. Re:What an asshole by SuricouRaven · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Name changes are just annoying to IT. New username, move user folder, new email address, update three different databases, update the address book, configure email alias... then wait about ten years until everyone stops emailing the old address.

    18. Re:What an asshole by FireFury03 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      As for myself, I'll be happy once the world learns to build systems that don't break on the apostrophe in my last name. I still come across plenty of systems that don't, and every time I am tempted to go "Johnny Tables" on their ass.

      I'm still waiting for computer systems that can handle my address, which has a y with a circumflex in it... I frequently get letters and packages arrive that has "ŷ" printed on the address label! (Yes, even big international websites like Amazon, SagePay, etc. are incapable of using a valid UTF-8 character... In fact ISTR SagePay's API only supports ISO8859.

  3. Blame shift by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If applying your own laws is "throwing a wrench" perhaps your laws are the problem?

  4. Differential enforcement by penguinoid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem is not this guy nor Facebook's rules, but that the rules were enforced in a biased manner. This will always be a problem with only enforcing a rule after a report, because unpopular groups or individuals will be reported more often than the majority.

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  5. Facebook empowers bullies by tverbeek · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's troubling is the fact that no one at Facebook contemplated the possibility that this policy would be used as a form of bullying. Their aribtrarily-enforced rules about nudity are routinely used the same way by homophobes, who go around reporting innocuous photos (and even illustrations) of partial male nudity or even just gay couples kissing or showing affection, causing headaches, suspensions, and even bans of gay people from the site. And they do so with complete impunity because they can do so anonymously, and there is no penalty for false reports. The users who are reported are given no right to challenge their accusers (or even know who they are), and effectively no right to appeal. Facebook's own policies and procedures facilitate and empower this kind of harassment and abuse. And they're just now noticing?

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    1. Re:Facebook empowers bullies by Teresita · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This reminds me of a recent incident in Seattle where 80% of the tickets for smoking weed in public were written by one officer, as though he was manufacturing evidence of wrongdoing or something. Using pot is legal in Washington, but not in public, and the officer was doing his job. The problem is in the underlying law.

  6. Re:Facebook is full of s@#4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    yes. exactly. so why does anyone put up with this stinking pile?

    they have network effects

    so whats the first thing you should do as a queen, a statist, a racist, a leftist, a druggie,
    a libertarian, or any other kind of self-proclaimed individual

    tell them to fuck straight off. say hello to your neighbor. i mean the actual piece of flesh
    that sleeps 50 yards away from you at night.

    their trillions are based on nothing else than the fact that you feel compelled to post
    shit on their website. dont complain about their policies...just stop using it altogether

    stop using the internet and have breakfast at your local diner. or use dragbook.com.
    or make dragbook.com

    google, facebook, twitter, linkedin - they haven't done anything for you. a bunch of
    highly paid assholes trying to figure out how to exploit you

  7. Facebook policy is the problem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It is facebook's pointless, unfair, side-effect prone, and essentially pinheaded "real name" policy that is the problem. Without the policy, the problem would not exist (and people who would have otherwise not had to reveal their real names could be a lot safer on the site.)

    But that's the nature of the beast. They're selling you to advertisers, and they can do whatever they want with you. Any idea you had about the site being about you is laughably off-base. What it is, is bait for you. They'll do what they need to do to attain and maintain critical mass for their actual customers (advertisers), and not one thing more.

    The citizens are, by and large, far too dimwitted to move to a network where they *are* the focus. And so it goes.

  8. TF upgrades, fixes and regressions by fyngyrz · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm truly sorry you chose to make that post anonymously. Spot on, and amusing at the same time. I would have enjoyed making sure I took special note of future postings if I knew who you were. Well, kudos anyway. :)

    The rush to "do" underlies a great deal of our problems from incompatible OS upgrades, bugs left behind to fester, the rug being yanked out from under previously working applications, and functionality going missing -- or crazy -- or sideways -- in existing user applications. There are methodologies that can resolve all of these things the vast majority of the time, but very few software developers at any level use them. Much harm results.

    <RANT>

    Primary among them, NEVER remove or change the stated design behavior of an existing function. If you have a better idea, add a new function with a new stated design behavior. Leave the previously existing one alone; if necessary, point out that it won't work with "new stuff", if indeed that is the case. Then stop. If an already existing function is not behaving as the stated design behavior says it should, change it until it does.

    Pro tip: If "upgrading", if whatever "enhancements" you created make something stop working or degrades how it works in an existing application that used the function according to its stated design intent, it's about 1000000:1 that it's your fault AND that you shouldn't have done whatever you did.

    It doesn't matter if you're an OS programmer, an application programmer, a PD library maintainer, or what. If and when you screw up existing stated design behavior, you have not created an "upgrade", you have created a "fuckyougrade" and somewhere, someone, or more likely many someones, are contemplating dragging you through a fire ant hill after dousing you with some other ant hill's characteristic pheromones.

    </RANT>

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