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2014 Nobel Peace Prize Awarded To Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzay

An anonymous reader writes: This year's Nobel Peace Prize has been given to Kailash Satyarthi and Malala Yousafzay for fighting to protect the rights of children and further their education. Yousafzay, at the age of 17, is the youngest recipient of the Peace Prize. Born and raised in Pakistan, she actively campaigned for girls' rights to education. In 2012, the Taliban shot her in the head, but she survived and continued her struggle. Satyarthi, a 60-year-old from India, has led many peaceful protests to fight against child slavery and illiteracy. "Satyarthi estimates that 60 million children in India, or 6 percent of the population, are forced into work. This, he believes, has nothing to do with parental poverty, illiteracy or ignorance. Above all, children are enslaved because employers benefit by getting their labour for free or for a pittance." This year's Nobel Peace Prize awards are also notable for bringing together an Indian and a Pakistani while their respective governments sustain a military conflict along a stretch of border between their countries.

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  1. Someone will complain about the political ones by i+kan+reed · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But these are both great people who went through hell to great things. They could've awarded the peace prize to Hitler himself, and I'd still be thinking these awards are incredibly appropriate.

    I wish I could've achieved as much as Malala when I was 17, and I can still aspire to achieve what Kailash did by the same I'm 60.

    Fuck anti-education assholes, and fuck slavery.

    1. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are we talking general accomplishments of all kinds?

      Why not award the Nobel Peace Prize to the same person who got the Nobel Chemistry prize?

      It's both accomplishments, and all we are looking for is an accomplishment, not a particular kind (e.g. a peace-related) of accomplishment.

    2. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by biptoe · · Score: 1

      Hey look, even Mr. Obama has won one. How political can it be? Or were they, the Committee, in a slump in 2009? So, Whom(?) has done more for World Peace? I'll take this years winners.

    3. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get Yousafzai.
      What's the deal with the Indian guy Kailash? (as compared with the thousands of other charitable workers the world over?)
      As an illustration, the reaction on this thread alone is 90%+ Yousafzai so far. Seems nobody gives a shit about Kailash...except the august Nobel committee.

      Also Yousafzai should have won it LAST YEAR! When the said august Nobel committee passed her over for the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
      Seems like the said august Nobel committee belatedly tried to redress the howls of political bullshitness in its selection process from last year.

    4. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      No, but I'm fine with the Peace Prize being extended to people who work to increase freedom and rights.

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    5. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by asliarun · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I get Yousafzai.
      What's the deal with the Indian guy Kailash? (as compared with the thousands of other charitable workers the world over?)
      As an illustration, the reaction on this thread alone is 90%+ Yousafzai so far. Seems nobody gives a shit about Kailash...except the august Nobel committee.

      Also Yousafzai should have won it LAST YEAR! When the said august Nobel committee passed her over for the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons.
      Seems like the said august Nobel committee belatedly tried to redress the howls of political bullshitness in its selection process from last year.

      The reason why this thread (along with all other threads) will be 90% focused on Malala is because - bluntly put - Malala is a lot more news-worthy than Kailash Satyarthi. On one hand, you have a young fragile good looking girl who is standing up against evil tyranny. On the other hand, you have a decidedly unsexy oldish guy who has been chugging along on his fight against child labor (which really is a fight against bonded or slave labor) for the past 3 decades.

      It is a different matter that Kailash has been able to create an organization with over 80000 members and his efforts over the last couple of decades have directly resulted in hundreds of thousands of children from getting freed from the cycle of bonded labor. It is also a different matter that he was being considered for the Nobel peace prize for a decade now. But of course, there are many many people who are just putting their head down and doing their bit to improve the world. So why him, right? He didn't even have a meaningful twitter following until this news just broke. Heck, even people in his country hardly knew about him, except in the NGO (India's term for not-for-profit organizations) circles. But that is modern media for you. And by extension, our modern attention spans.

      Just to be perfectly clear, I am not begrudging Malala anything. Her courage and ambition and ability to leverage the publicity she has been getting - has been extraordinary. But to both Malala and Kailash - this award is a game changer for them - in terms of publicity and monetary support. In a very real way, the Nobel Peace prize has not just become an acknowledgment of effort but a very powerful tool to further boost their efforts.

      I, for one, am really happy that the award went to these two, instead of presidents and famous politicians who really didn't need the award, except as a pat in the back.

    6. Re: Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Incorrect use of whom.

    7. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by seven+of+five · · Score: 2

      Why not award the Nobel Peace Prize to the same person who got the Nobel Chemistry prize?

      You mean this guy?

    8. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I agree that Yousafzai is a whole lot higher profile for various reasons.
      And Kailash may be all that and more.
      But it doesn't take away from the fact that the optics of the selection process just looks bad.
      If Kailash is so good, he should have gotten the prize a long time ago (instead of Obama, Gore...).
      Instead he gets shoe horned into Yousafzai's parade. And still nobody gives a shit about Kailash.

    9. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by ColonelPanic · · Score: 1

      To answer your question, it's "who", not "whom" here, since the pronoun is a subject.

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    10. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am Indian, and I've never heard the name Stayarthi until today

    11. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or they could have awarded it posthumously to the journalists beheaded by ISIS

    12. Re: Someone will complain about the political ones by biptoe · · Score: 1

      hence the question mark

    13. Re:Someone will complain about the political ones by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      FYI: "NGO" stands for Non-Governmental Organisation. The term is not particular to India.

      Otherwise, spot on.

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  2. Get it by kruach+aum · · Score: 1

    Pakistan and India have been hostile since they first were separated from each other, but they're not so different!! Surely this gesture will make them realize this and they'll have no choice but to bury the hatchet, that's just how human psychology works.

    1. Re:Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course they're not so different. Pakistan is just muslim India.

    2. Re:Get it by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 3, Informative

      Pakistan and India have been hostile since they first were separated from each other, but they're not so different!!

      The people of Pakistan and the people of India have been hostile toward each other much longer than that. Of course, they weren't "people of Pakistan and India" before the end of British rule of what is now India and Pakistan.

      About the only period they weren't hostile was during the Raj, when the British tried to prevent that sort of thing.

      Note that during the post-British period, when they were split into two countries, the Hindus living in what is now Pakistan were attacked by their Muslim neighbors and driven out of the country.

      Likewise, during the same period, the Muslims living in what is now India were attacked by their Hindu neighbors. This reached the point that trainloads of Muslims fleeing to Pakistan were stopped by the Indian Army and machinegunned before being allowed to continue into Pakistan.

      Surely this gesture will make them realize this and they'll have no choice but to bury the hatchet, that's just how human psychology works.

      Bury the hatchet in each other's head, yes.

      The way you mean it, no.

      And do you really know so little of human psychology?

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    3. Re:Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Pakistan and India have been hostile since they first were separated from each other, but they're not so different!! Surely this gesture will make them realize this and they'll have no choice but to bury the hatchet, that's just how human psychology works.

      The separation and hate was created by the British, intentionally. So it is the duty of the west to take a supporting role in the reconciliation as well.

    4. Re: Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need better education than that of propaganda you sprouting. +1 for Her

    5. Re: Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "People of Pakistan and people of India have long been hostile?" Wrong. "Was the only time they were not hostile was during the Raj?". Utterly wrong again, rather the opposite. People of areas now comprising India and Pakistan were never so hostile except since Raj. As a mattef of fact these hostilities were sown due to Raj's divide-and-rule approach.

    6. Re: Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      There's no moral equivalence here.

      I think it was Mohammad's rampaging armies and forcible conversions and associated brutality that created the initial bitterness between people of the same genetic stock. Today, the divide between those that converted and those that didn't still remains. Unfortunately, the brutality from those rampaging armies is still echoing today, with the converted being well indoctrinated. I mean, how many terrorist attacks do Hindus carry out in Pakistan, versus terrorist attacks that Muslims carry out in India? That's not the fault of the Raj, though they did certainly use divide-and-conquer to their benefit. There's no moral equivalence here, while the Nobel committee is trying to imply there is. Islam needs a reformation to make it less virulent and violent against its neighbors. Christians are another proselytizing monotheistic religion, but in practice they're merely annoying as opposed to violent (although they certainly have been). Islam should hope to reach such a peaceful state.

    7. Re:Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Hindus were 26% of current pakistan before independence, now less than 2%. Muslims were 8% in 1947 in current India, now 16%. That tells a whole lot.

    8. Re: Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Do you have any actual historical facts to back up any of that bigoted opinion of yours or is it just what you read on some redneck blog?

    9. Re:Get it by nbauman · · Score: 1

      Pakistan and India have been hostile since they first were separated from each other, but they're not so different!! Surely this gesture will make them realize this and they'll have no choice but to bury the hatchet, that's just how human psychology works.

      Actually there is good scientific evidence for that.

      http://www.sciencemag.org/site...
      Human Conflict
      Why We Fight—In this special issue we consider the deep evolutionary roots of violent confrontation. We trace the trajectory of violence and war throughout history, exploring racism, ethnic conflicts, the rise of terrorism, and the possible future of armed conflicts.

      tldr; Human conflict and mass exterminations are constants that have been going on for as long as we have historical or anthropological records. Reconciliation is just as much of a constant. Human populations fight and make peace.

    10. Re: Get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a great deal of Hindu terrorism being carried out across the subcontinent, against all other religions, Muslims, Christians, etc.. I have read terrorism experts claiming that Hindu terrorism causes more deaths than any other religious terrorism—whether that's correct or not, there's certainly plenty of it just google 'hindu terrorism'. It's likely that most of it is within India, but that is surely because of the link between Indian nationalism and the Hindi religion as well as the fact that the vast majority of Hindus are in India. Anyway, the suggestion that it's the Muslims carrying out most of the terrorism is not necessarily correct, although our news media certainly like to make it look like that.

    11. Re:Get it by i.kazmi · · Score: 0

      Spot on mate, almost exactly what I was about to post.

      Just a minor addendum, the reason Hindus and Muslims weren't at each others' throats during large parts of the British rule was they had a common foe who they both wanted to oust.

      Also saying all that, let's not forget that several people on both sides want peace but the extremists are not just more vocal, they also have more resources and don't mind resorting to violence towards advocates of peace in their respective camps.

    12. Re: Get it by i.kazmi · · Score: 0

      Let's just gloss over the continued occupation of Jamu/Kashmir. How many UN resolutions have been ignored so far with regards to the right of self determination for the people of that region?

      Also, no point in talking about Pakistani allegations of continued Indian support of separatist movements in Balochistan, that will just complicate the discussion and we obviously don't want that, do we? Let's just blame the Muslims and be done with it, right?

  3. Irony by Richard_at_work · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Malala Yousafzay campaigns for womens and girls rights, and in the UK she gets sent to a private, segregated all girls school... I always found that slightly ironic.

    1. Re:Irony by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      Wait is that UK "private" or US "private"? They're almost opposite in meaning.

    2. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Malala Yousafzay campaigns for womens and girls rights, and in the UK she gets sent to a private, segregated all girls school... I always found that slightly ironic.

      Gets sent to? No, she attends that school, and the decision of which school to attend is her choice and/or that of the parents, just like everyone else.

      More importantly, the Taliban are still trying to kill her, since she demonstrates the kind of muslim savages that they are.

    3. Re:Irony by Richard_at_work · · Score: 2

      Not really - a private school in the UK is also referred to as a public school and is funded in whole or in part by tuition fees, as opposed to a state school which is free to attend and paid by the government.

    4. Re:Irony by Code+Herder · · Score: 5, Informative

      Her campaign is for girls' rights to education, pretty sure she doesn't care if people go to coed schools or separate and whether it's private or public.

      Plus I'm just taking a guess but there's probably security issues that are easier to handle in a private all girl school. She was shot point blank 3 times for her views after all, I wouldn't exactly feel 100% safe even if I was in the UK.

    5. Re:Irony by PhilHibbs · · Score: 1

      I know that "public" has opposite meanings in the UK and US, but I didn't know "private" did. Her school is independent, as in not state-owned. It's a charity. And I don't see why it's ironic. "Girls should have the right to get an education" and "Education should only be provided by the state" are two entirely orthogonal statements.

    6. Re:Irony by PhilHibbs · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Not all segregation is sexist. Women-only gyms, all-girls schools, female sports teams and competitions, none of these are ghettoes that women are forced into.

    7. Re:Irony by _xeno_ · · Score: 1, Insightful

      What's really ironic is Harvard awarding Malala Yousafzai "Humanitarian of the Year" for her efforts in promoting education for women.

      Harvard started accepting women in 1999. Malala would have been two at the time.

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    8. Re:Irony by fidget · · Score: 2

      You are confusing the location of her education with her campaign for "the freedom of women and girls to be educated".
      Ascribing motive to the location of her education is probably premature.

    9. Re:Irony by bws111 · · Score: 1

      Sure, if you ignore the whole Radcliffe College (started in 1879) thing.

    10. Re:Irony by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      Radcliffe didn't become a full part of Harvard until 1977. Only then could you argue that a Harvard degree and a Radcliffe degree were effectively the same thing.

      Sure, at least Harvard was educating women, but there was still a definitive dividing line between "education for women" and "education for men" at Harvard through 1977 at the earliest.

      Which still makes them honoring Malala Yousafzai somewhat ironic considering how long it took them to get around to providing women the same education they provided men.

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    11. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Not all segregation is sexist. Women-only gyms, all-girls schools, female sports teams and competitions, none of these are ghettoes that women are forced into.

      hm... Oh, I get it. If you are white and male you cannot be the victim of sexism or racism "Women-only gyms" aren't sexist against men, ladies' night isn't sexist against men (particularly gay men), all-girl schools aren't sexist against boys(depending on the reasoning behind the segregation). It's only sexist if it is an all men college, etc.

    12. Re:Irony by Your.Master · · Score: 1

      I'd be wary of the term "sexist against". The purpose of ladies' night is to increase the pool of women that straight men can hit on by providing women an incentive. Somewhat more sinisterly, those women are able to consume more alcohol so their judgement is also likely to be more impaired on average.

      So it's not really against men or against women, it's more complicated than that.

      It is sexist though, and it's not actually universally legal.

    13. Re:Irony by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It just might keep her alive!

    14. Re:Irony by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      The UK has private, public and state schools. Each is a different thing.

  4. The perspective on this from Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    There's some kind of myth that is sought to be promulgated by certain people that the Nobel committee is politically independent. That is completely wrong. The entire commitee is put together by votes in the parliament, and former and high profile politicians are heavily involved. So consider basically the committee's choices the result of the preferences of political appointees.

    The current head of the commitee, Thorbjørn Jagland, is a former head politician of the Labour party. He was the one who gave the prize to Barack Obama. Of course, the commitee does have five people in it - but they are all political appointees, and the president has a double vote.

    He has been severely and repeatedly criticised over many years, from high profile people, for completely ignoring Alfred Nobel's will. For example, here: http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/nobels-fredspris/nobel-forfatter-jagland-burde-gaatt-av-for-lenge-siden/a/10062076/ - headline "Jagland should have resigned a long time ago", criticism from the author of the book "Nobel's Will". Article about the author here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fredrik_Heffermehl .

    Nobel's will states that the prize should go to whomever works to reduce standing armies and arrange peace conferences - it should go to efforts to reduce conventional wars.

    The new conservative government has indicated that they are going to remove Jagland. Jagland has presented a conspiracy theory that this is because they are trying to please China. But that's probably not going to float, so the streak of madness and Labour party preference is going to end soon.

    1. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      It's hard to divorce politics from the notion of peace. There are people whose political beliefs go as far as the notion that going to war promotes peace. The best you can do is try to ensure there is non-partial input.

    2. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thorbjørn Jagland is an awesome name.

    3. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are trying to divorce politics from the notion of peace, then you probably can't do it. But you can go some way by not having the same people be politicians as are awarding peace prizes. It's a bad way to divorce politics from anything at all if the core people are politicians.

    4. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

      Well, yeah. I'm sure everyone is looking for a better process to ensure fairness at all times. We'll disagree with you when you come up with something, but no one thinks the status quo is perfect.

    5. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by timeOday · · Score: 1
      And obviously the Taliban was not consulted on this award.

      Actually your post is incredibly self-contradictory. You're miffed about Obama receiving the award, yet you think it should go to people who reduce warfare. Obama has been criticized constantly by the American right for not going to war often enough and hard enough. Your knee-jerk response will certainly be to list instances where Obama has used military force. But tally up the pile of corpses from this Presidency vs. the previous, and you will find a difference of twenty-fold or more.

      (Personally I think Obama's award was not for anything he would do subsequently, but was more Nelson-Mandela-like, for ending the unbroken streak of apartheid in the office of the US Presidency.)

    6. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by timeOday · · Score: 1

      By the way, I do think Yousafzay is more deserving of the prize than Obama was - not so much for getting shot, but for subsequently taking up the cause despite being shot, and at the risk of being shot again. And although you contend that the political right is not fairly represented in awarding the Nobel Prize, I question whether you will find any of them (short of the aforementioned Taliban) to come out publicly against her receiving the prize?

    7. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      So, because you disagree with one man's politics, The Nobel Peace Prize is shit. Got it. Nice reasoning there.

    8. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, that is a pretty insane post.

      You think my post is hypocritical because... the American right has wanted Obama to go to war more often, and I want the prize to go to someone who promotes peace. Presumably you then jump from "I want to the prize to go to someone who promotes peace" to "I want peace", and juxtapose this with "I (the American right) want war". So I want peace and war at the same time and this seems contradictory to you.

      Firstly, well, I am from Norway. That is why my post says "The perspective on this from Norway". Like, if the American right says something, and I say something different, then I am not saying both of those things. I realize this may be hard to grasp.

      And, there are times when I support war. For example, I support bombing ISIS. That does not mean I think the peace prize should be... uh.. awarded to someone who likes war, because war is good, period, or something like that. I think the prize should be awarded to someone who promotes peace because a) peace usually is good and b) the will of Alfred Nobel says that's who it should be awarded to.

      E.g. I like pizza, but that does not mean I think the physics prize should be awarded to the best pizza baker. I also like certain limited warfare in a small number of cases, but that does not mean I think the peace prize should be awarded to the person who bombs ISIS.

      I realize this may be extremely confusing. I am sorry that you find it confusing.

    9. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by timeOday · · Score: 1
      When did I say you were on the American right? Never. What I said was that Obama has actually done a lot to reduce standing armies and warfare. If an election were held today, he would probably lose for not jumping into Syria faster and deeper.

      Is the problem that you were referring more to Yousafzay, and others who received the Peace Price for promoting human rights instead of minimizing conventional warfare? In that case, I simply think you are being overly pedantic. Peace and justice go hand in hand.

    10. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      ...not so much for getting shot, but for subsequently taking up the cause despite being shot, and at the risk of being shot again.

      Some people seem to have the odd notion that Malala was a victim of random violence. The truth of the matter is that it was anything but random.

      She did *not* take up the cause "because of" being shot or even "in spite of" it. Quite the opposite. She was marked for death by the Taliban precisely because (a) she was *already* an advocate for education for girls and (b) she was *already* working to expose the Taliban's horrid treatment of girls and women to the outside world. She is still so marked by them, and it's very likely that they (or sympathisers) will eventually get her.

      She knows this. And she already knows first-hand what it's like to take a bullet to the head for her beliefs. Yet she chooses to continue.

      She has already shown more courage than most of us will ever display in a whole lifetime.

      I am proud to be a member of the same species as she, and I wish I were even half as brave as she is.

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    11. Re:The perspective on this from Norway by s.petry · · Score: 1

      It's hard to divorce politics from the notion of peace. There are people whose political beliefs go as far as the notion that going to war promotes peace. The best you can do is try to ensure there is non-partial input.

      I don't believe you are correct trying to divorce peace from politics. I don't want to hijack the conversation and turn the thread into a D vs. R debate so won't introduce blame here. That said, what if Obama had been able live up to his campaign promises and rhetoric? Personally I would have no problem with him winning the Peace prize if that was the situation.

      Barack Obama did not receive the prize based on his actions or accomplishments, he receive the prize for what he put on a piece of paper. That is the part that had, and has, people scratching their heads.

      Politicians have the potential for the biggest impacts to peace, both positive and negative. I have no issue with them receiving a Nobel Peace Prize, but the measure should always be their actions and accomplishments.

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  5. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Neither has contributed much to the "fraternity of nations" and the "abolition or reduction of standing armies." Neither did Al Gore, who also won the prize. Truth of the matter is that the Nobel committee stopped handing out Peace prizes long ago and now hands out Ideologies We Like awards. The recipients may be very deserving of some sort of award, but few lately meet the original criteria of fostering peace and reducing war, Kissinger and Obama being the starkest proof of that. It's sad really: with all the wars that are raging now, you'd think promoting peace would be important to someone.

  6. I was not expecting this.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Where's Obama's second Peace Prize?

  7. Is that allowed? by shaitand · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "In 2012, the Taliban shot her in the head, but she survived and continued her struggle."

    That ladies and gentlemen is what we call a zombie. Can a zombie win the nobel prize? Apparently so. I for one welcome our new teenage zombie overlords.

    1. Re:Is that allowed? by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      I for one welcome our new teenage zombie overlords

      ...Teenage Zombie Hijab Rulers?

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    2. Re:Is that allowed? by fidget · · Score: 1

      *like* *upvote*

      Sorry, I don't have any mod points, currently. But this issue badly needs an injection of humor. Somewhere.

    3. Re:Is that allowed? by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      it's an interesting perspective. The nobel prize can't be given posthumously, the recipient must be alive. but what if the recipient is undead? this is a grey area.

  8. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 5, Insightful

    an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars. That's why it's so important to the corrupt governments that want to wage those wars to have control of the education systems in their societies.

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  9. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is there any proof for your hypothesis?

  10. Re: Success is getting away from your own race... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If she travels out of country, I am sure she will stay at a Pakistani neighborhood. Apparently she doesn't hate her race and her race does hate her. Not everything is based on race, what a novel concept to Americans, right.

  11. Good. by Falos · · Score: 1

    I approve of this award. These are an invasion of women's rights. These are kids in need of protection. These are people who need SJWs facetweeting for them from coffee shops. Mark and Frank giggling about a 'dongle' across the hall is a first world problem.

    1. Re:Good. by Teresita · · Score: 2

      And I thought John Kerry was a shoo-in for his Israeli Apartheid comments...

    2. Re:Good. by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Well making women sit at the back of the bus is a kind of Apartheid. Of course Americans usually are in favour of Apartheid, you just have to look at their friends such as the Saudis, Kuwait and various other middle eastern countries, even going so far as to bomb and invade one of the few countries where women had close to equal rights and making sure of a huge mess, but it did make sure women were back in their place, no more education or wearing skirts

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  12. Re:Really? by Charliemopps · · Score: 5, Informative

    lol, you have no idea what you're talking about and you can't even be bothered to check out wikipedia before you attack a teenage girl?

    Let me make it easy for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

    She attended school, despite threats from various, very scary groups that any girl caught doing so would be attacked.
    There was basically a civil war while she was in school and girls were banned from attending, but she went anyways.
    She worked for the BBC all this time, describing what it was like. Enlightening people in the west to the plight of girls in this area of the world.
    Then the Taliban ordered her dead. A gunman drove up, ordered her to identify herself or he'd shoot them all. She did and was shot. She nearly died.
    She survived the attack and continued to attend school.
    This brought world wide attention to the plight of women in Pakistan.
    She recovered, continued to attend school, got exiled, etc...
    She's met with damn near every world leader.
    Asked and received funding to support the education of women.
    Got money from the UN
    Wrote books, articles, blogs, etc... all encouraging young women to attend school and get an education no matter what.
    At any point during all of this she could have simply attended private school and shut her mouth to avoid the threats but she refused.

    Nobel Prizes are given for a lifetime of achievement. This girl has already done more in the less than 2 decades she's been alive then the whole of the Slashdot community combined. There are a lot of questionable Nobel awards out there, but this is not one of them.

  13. Re:Really? by chthon · · Score: 1

    Possibly not in the US, I would not know about the UK, but here in Europe, she regularly has been in the news and on the agenda for her work.

  14. Re:Snowden's time will come by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing positive has come from his actions. Name one.

    So far that other guy who did get a Nobel Peace Prize has done nothing to alleviate the issues brought public by Snowden's espionage. In fact, we're worse off than before.

  15. That needs another caveat: by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

    an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars. That's why it's so important to the corrupt governments that want to wage those wars to have control of the education systems in their societies.

    Because MISeducating their population is key. "Give them a light, and they'll follow it anywhere."

    But this needs another caveat: If the population in general doesn't have any effective power over the goverenment, they can know exactly what's going on, be against it, but be utterly unable to change it. If some of them attempt to make such change, it just separates them out from those who will knuckle under, for easy removal from the herd.

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  16. Re:Really? by David_Hart · · Score: 1

    Certainly in the west nobody has heard anything about the young girl since she was released from hospital after her recovery. I'm interested to know the real world changing accomplishments she has personally brought to fruition? In addition, Satyarthi "accomplishments" appear to be limited to one country. Is this then the Peace prize for India? I've seen Mother Teresa's name bounced around in justification because of her work in Calcutta but she worked in tends (if not more) nations around the world.

    This is another Nobel fail. Nice people but not worthy of the prize.

    I agree.

    I admire both for standing up for their convictions and working hard to spread a message of a world with equal access to education and without child labour, However, their message, while relevant globally, seems to be limited to India and Pakastan.

    Perhaps giving them the Nobel prize was a way that the committee thought to draw more global attention to the these human rights issues. I do agree that the achievement of global human rights and education can lead to world peace.

    That being said, just preaching a message should not qualify for a Nobel Peace prize. Neither of these fit the criteria of having "done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."

    The worst part is that the Nobel Peace prize used to mean something and it gave the person awarded a little bit of extra gravitas in working towards peace. Now, it has been cheapen to be a political award give to people with little actual accomplishments.

  17. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Russia doesn't have bad education

    Actually they do. Their education when it comes to history and especially social state of European countries is so incorrect that it only can be considered as propaganda.

  18. Suck that, Taliban! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dear Taliban chauvinist pigfuckers:

    In your attempt to kill Yousafzay and suppress her right to a good education, you handed her a substantial monetary reward in a gold platter. Way to go!

  19. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I think I'll have to invoke Godwin on this one or for that matter post 9/11 US, education doesn't stop wacky wars. At least not education with a high degree of political slant and indoctrination, people can read/write or for that matter be an engineer/developer and still swallow political propaganda hook, line and sinker.

    This is far older and simpler than this, it's opposition to equality of the sexes. They'd rather have their women be ignorant half-slave housekeepers, sex servants, child bearers and nannies. The first step is denying them any education so they're illiterate, then wrap them in burqas and make them terrified of contact with any other male who might treat them like a human being and finally subjugate them in law, to refuse your husband is never rape, no divorce, the kids belong to the father and if a woman gets raped let's punish her because obviously she tempted them in some way.

    And just to get back on that education track, if the choices are no education, religious indoctrination (ev-uh-lution? what's that?) or government indoctrination I think for the most part I favor democratically imposed standards of education over individual whack jobs who want to inflict their wacky world view on their children. Not that I think public school is necessarily a good school, but most of them are pretty bland and expose you to a wide variety of other children with different backgrounds.

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  20. Let's ignore Edward Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Nobel "Peace" prize is such a farce. First we have warmonger Obama. Then we have Snowden completely ignored.

    1. Re:Let's ignore Edward Snowden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1) he's not black 2) he got it for not being Bush (or so they thought)

  21. Re:Really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    lol, you have no idea what you're talking about and you can't even be bothered to check out wikipedia before you attack a teenage girl?

    Let me make it easy for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

    She attended school, despite threats from various, very scary groups that any girl caught doing so would be attacked.
    There was basically a civil war while she was in school and girls were banned from attending, but she went anyways.
    She worked for the BBC all this time, describing what it was like. Enlightening people in the west to the plight of girls in this area of the world.
    Then the Taliban ordered her dead. A gunman drove up, ordered her to identify herself or he'd shoot them all. She did and was shot. She nearly died.
    She survived the attack and continued to attend school.
    This brought world wide attention to the plight of women in Pakistan.
    She recovered, continued to attend school, got exiled, etc...
    She's met with damn near every world leader.
    Asked and received funding to support the education of women.
    Got money from the UN
    Wrote books, articles, blogs, etc... all encouraging young women to attend school and get an education no matter what.
    At any point during all of this she could have simply attended private school and shut her mouth to avoid the threats but she refused.

    Nobel Prizes are given for a lifetime of achievement. This girl has already done more in the less than 2 decades she's been alive then the whole of the Slashdot community combined. There are a lot of questionable Nobel awards out there, but this is not one of them.

    But.... what does any of that have to do with Peace? If they wanted to give her a Humanitarian award, then I would agree. But the Nobel Peace prize should be about more....

  22. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Teun · · Score: 1

    The fact you have to ask shows what lack of education has done to you.

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  23. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Religious indoctrination counteracts much of the effect of education. Without religion, most well-educated people turn out to be either liberal or libertarian depending on their empathy. Throw heavy religious belief into the mix and any number of those people swing conservative.

  24. Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duh, everybody knows that headshots kill zombies, so she must be some other kind of revenant.

    1. Re:Wrong by shaitand · · Score: 1

      Fair point.

  25. Re:Success is getting away from your own race... by Teun · · Score: 1
    Unless I missed she is from Africa, the Far East or the Americas, I'm pretty sure she's presently living among the same Eurasian race that brought forth her would-be killers...

    What does set her attackers apart is their warped interpretation of a wide spread Semitic monotheistic religion that got polluted by ancient Middle Eastern tribalism.

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  26. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by alex67500 · · Score: 1

    Anonymous Coward, cos' he can't even spell his own name :-D

  27. so no Obama? by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I was really hoping Obama would get it again. You know, for failing to do anything or engage in combat with ISIS for months. Just letting the enemy take over and burying your head in the sand is what those anti-war protestors want after all.

  28. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is there any proof for your hypothesis?

    Yes, there is evidence. The US invasion of Iraq was not history's bloodiest war, but it was one of the dumbest. Polls taken in 2002-2003 clearly show that opposition to that invasion was strongly correlated with education level. High school dropouts were the most likely to favor invading, and people with graduate degrees were the most likely to oppose it.

    This doesn't mean that education can prevent all wars, but maybe it can prevent the really dumb wars.

  29. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by the+gnat · · Score: 2

    few lately meet the original criteria of fostering peace and reducing war,

    I think it's been very broad for the last 50 years, and what they also now recognize is nonviolent resistance to tyranny. That's why MLK and Lech Walesa won the prize (among others), and I have a hard time thinking of anyone more deserving.

  30. Re:Really? by Teun · · Score: 1
    I'm not sure what rock you're living under but Malala is quite frequently in the Western European news for commenting on or attending one or other international conference on the subject of women education.

    You are correct that Atyarthi is working in one country but you seem to forget (or don't know) it's the world's second most populated country and they have some horrendous problems re. women and children rights.

    The award was also a sign to the people and politicians of India and Pakistan they are facing similar problems and should reconsider their hostilities.

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  31. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Well, the EU got it a few years back and they definitely count. We'll soon see 70 years without France and Germany going at each other, which is a new high score at least up to the 15th century (didn't bother to research further back)

  32. Malala and Change by Udom · · Score: 0

    The change Malala has been working for essentially means the total destruction of the underpinnings of the culture of northern Pakistan. That's why conservatives in Pakistan and elsewhere fight. We are no more right to impose our social system on other cultures that we were in past centuries to impose our religion. Along with local cultures hundreds of languages are disappearing. This is a time of mass extinction of species of animals, plants, fish and human diversity. These changes are as unstoppable as they are catastrophic. It's grotesque to see so many cheering it on.

    1. Re:Malala and Change by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      Ensuring that everyone enjoys, equally, the same basic human rights is not "imposing our religion" on anyone. No. Your chosen collection of religious dogma does not trump those rights. The failure to grasp that is why ignorant fundamentalists in northern Pakistan (and elsewhere - I'm looking at you, red states) fight. Malala is a hero, because she's challenging such ignorant "culture".

    2. Re:Malala and Change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What's grotesque is pretending that antiquated ways of treating women have a place in this world. They don't.

    3. Re:Malala and Change by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, you're right. If women don't have preferential treatment in government and industry how else will they ever achieve "equality". Because you know, all animals are equal.............but some are more equal than others comrade.

  33. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The fact that you weren't able to answer the question shows that it maybe wasn't so dumb after all...

  34. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by nucrash · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Did you not see how ISIS tries to control what is being taught in the schools about mathematics and chemistry?

    The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.

    In the US, it was illegal in the early 1800s to teach slaves how to read or write. If a slave were to learn, they would quickly overpower their masters.

    Why else do you think there were times when the Catholic church would shun science? Education of the stars took away the geocentric theory and was bound to take away our importance of being the center of the universe.

    Authoritarians have throughout history done what they could to control education. An ignorant populace is not a threat. An educated populace is capable of organization and can quickly create problems for the powers that be.

    Examples of racism in South Africa were actually greater towards the Indian population than the African population because Indians

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  35. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by ahaweb · · Score: 2

    Libertarians in practice are just conservatives without the context of history and social forces.

  36. Re:Really? by Jawnn · · Score: 2

    Education, and the education of women in particular, begets peace. Well demonstrated fact. Find another way to attack her credibility. You've failed here.

  37. Yeah... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What a damned shame that awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to Obama has rendered it a joke for the rest of time. Used to be something prestigious and precious, an important statement...but then, they jumped the shark and now it's just a punchline.

  38. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neither has contributed much to the "fraternity of nations" and the "abolition or reduction of standing armies." Neither did Al Gore, who also won the prize. Truth of the matter is that the Nobel committee stopped handing out Peace prizes long ago and now hands out Ideologies We Like awards. The recipients may be very deserving of some sort of award, but few lately meet the original criteria of fostering peace and reducing war, Kissinger and Obama being the starkest proof of that. It's sad really: with all the wars that are raging now, you'd think promoting peace would be important to someone.

    When thugs like Arafat have won it in the past, you know that it's over!!! This year, the theme is more about how Indian Hindus should suck up to Paki Muzzies if they want due recognition

  39. It's snowing in Hell right now by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    Finally - a Peace Prize goes to someone who actually earned it!

  40. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Given that the EU was founded in 1993 with the Maastricht treaty, I'm having trouble arriving at your 70 years mark. Sure, there was an economic community prior to that, but it's not 70 years old either -- it was founded less than 60 years ago. If you want to talk about Germany not fighting anyone, you might want to remember its dismemberment and occupation by the powers that conquered it; that's perhaps not as pleasant a narrative as retroactively projecting the glory of the EU back fifty years before it was even founded, but it's the only thing that's going to explain that period between the fall of Berlin and the beginning of the EEC.

    They gave the EU the peace prize because, in the words of the AC above, it was an ideology with which the Prize Committee agreed, and it was politically expedient to raise pro-EU morale at a time of economic crisis, when the word "Grexit" was becoming popular as people began to talk about withdrawing from the monetary union and recovering national sovereignty from Brussels.

  41. Obama got this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In hindsight. Jimmy Carter actually produced peace, specifically between Israel and Egypt, which stands today. He deserved his prize. Obama is an utter failure and seems to have the moral intelligence of a 10 yr old.

  42. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did you not see how ISIS tries to control what is being taught in the schools about mathematics and chemistry?

    The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.

    In the US, it was illegal in the early 1800s to teach slaves how to read or write. If a slave were to learn, they would quickly overpower their masters.

    Why else do you think there were times when the Catholic church would shun science? Education of the stars took away the geocentric theory and was bound to take away our importance of being the center of the universe.

    Authoritarians have throughout history done what they could to control education. An ignorant populace is not a threat. An educated populace is capable of organization and can quickly create problems for the powers that be.

    Examples of racism in South Africa were actually greater towards the Indian population than the African population because Indians

    The parent post you replied to agrees with everything you wrote. Why are replying as if he disagrees?

  43. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by T.E.D. · · Score: 1

    an educated population is one of the best defenses against mindless wars.

    Precisely. For instance, my own country (the USA) is in the top 12% in the world in education. When was the last time you saw us start some mindless war?

  44. Re:Success is getting away from your own race... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any comments?

    You're an idiot?

  45. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    2003

  46. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The Taliban also do the same to keep women and girls out of education because they might learn about other possibilities and lose their dependence on men.

    While here, women have better access to education then men and they are still dependent on men. Go figure...

  47. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on earth by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I guess maths must be challenging for you. France and Germany haven't fought each other since 1945. 2014-1945=69 which is 1 less than 70.

    And the roots of the EU go back much further than 1993.

  48. Re:Really? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    An assertive woman is a ballbreaker, yeah, right.

    Listen up, homeboy: There can be no true peace without justice. Subjugation of women is not just.

    BTW, "Gandhi" was simply her husband's name, which she assumed upon their marriage. Her husband (Feroze Gandhi) was not related to Mohandas.

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  49. Re:Snowden's time will come by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    A whole bunch of people got jolted awake. You might not consider that positive, but some folks do.

    And what the heck does Atyarthi have to do with NSA surveillance, anyway?

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  50. Re:Really? by dryeo · · Score: 2

    In the interviews with her I've heard, she has also talked quite a bit about peace and how the likes of the Taliban do not stand for Muslims and how she understands her religion.
    This cuts to one of the big problems facing us, namely the fact that groups such as the Taliban and ISIS are trying there hardest to make the west think that they are representative of Islam and therefore promote religious war.

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  51. Re:I wonder... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Look everybody! It's a Taliban sympathiser, posting AC on /.!

  52. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by dryeo · · Score: 1

    That's only true of the American brand of libertarian. There are also leftists who are libertarian and they are the only ones who have had any real influence. Examples include Gandhi, the Dali Llama and Mandela.
    Note I'm using the original definition of libertarian being the opposite of totalitarian and being one of the other 2 axis of politics.

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  53. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They are not. Where did you get that nonsense idea from????

  54. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Your 'evidence' does not prove your hypothesis.

  55. Re:Really? by Richy_T · · Score: 1

    American news is horribly, terribly insular. I mean really, really bad.

  56. Re:Success is getting away from your own race... by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    The moral of the story is that she has a spine, and you've none.

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  57. Re:Really? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

    This is another Nobel fail. Nice people but brown and female so not worthy of the prize.

    TFTFY.

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  58. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    >Do you see any women grow their >food,

    Yes

    >take there trash out,

    Yes of course

    >build their house,

    Yes.

    > defend their border?

    Of course. Ever heard of female soldiers????

      >Feminist only bark for equal representation in the easy desk job.

    Bullshit.

    >They do not want these hard, but essential jobs,

    More bullshit.

      >and therefore are still dependent on men for living.

    Only in twisted misogynistic sad mind.

    > Sexual division of labour is still common practice

    True. Unfortunately. I whish more men would go into labour and squeeze a bowling ball out off their ass. ^_^.

    >and as in the past millennia still favour women.

    Nonsense.

      >Feminist are despicable hypocrite and manipulating this young Pakistani girl for propaganda is revolting.

    You nothing but a sad mysogistic pile of shit. And before you cry "ad hominem", you just described me as revolting and despicable.

    >I will not be satisfied until 50% of coffins return from war are female coffin. Equality! Equality! Equality!

    Good. I hope you want equal pay for everyone as well as on average women earn only 77% of that what men get. For the same job. And I hope you vote for a female president and for more female CEOs. Zero female presidents, 4% female CEOs. Guess the next 22 US presidents should be female then. :-)

    >I am very serious; send women to war. Doing so will change the world.

    Sure. Just don't stop there with equality.

    Nobody will ever support a war were women die in combat because only men are disposable.

    Bullshit. Lots of armies have female soldiers and they did just like men.
    Your world view is simply misogyn and anachronistic.

  59. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    True. Unfortunately. I whish more men would go into labour and squeeze a bowling ball out off their ass. ^_^.

    There is always a few exception in every field. Women in general, because that is was we are discussing here, do not do these things. Men were always seen as tool, exploitable and disposable muscle of society. I am fine with that, it is the way of nature.

    Men do not breed themselves. Men are made by women, in the exact way women need them.

    You bring no arguments and your decade old debunked myth of 'equal pay' only show how dishonest you are. Also, your mentioning of '4% CEO easy desk job' only give weight to my own arguments you dismissed as bullshit.

    The only real gap is the life expectancy gap; when women take as much risk, and suffer the fatality, they will attain all the top position you claim lack women's representation.

    Btw, I am pretty sure the goats.cx guy could squeeze a bowling ball out of his ass now.

  60. Re:Really? by Lawrence_Bird · · Score: 0

    Again, what does any of that have to do with the Nobel Peace Prize? The girl has accomplished little other than to bring an additional reminder of the plight of women in Afghanistan and some other repressive Muslim countries. Has she brought substantial change in those countries? The man has done good deeds in India but not really anywhere else.

    So in the first case you have the award going to a feel good, sympathetic figure and in the second, a country specific figure. Neither has brought peace to the world. Once again the committee has given an award to those not worthy of the award given. Unfortunately, those who mark this as famebait miss the point and instead misinterpret what is being said. To say their work is not worthy of this prize is not to say their work is not valuable, important or deserving of some other more appropriate award, today or sometime in the future.

    As to your specific comment re India/Pakistan: If the Nobel committee wishes to make statements like that they should just issue a press release - the peace prize should not be used for that purpose. What would be worthy of the prize is someone(s) who actually negotiate a lasting peace between the two countries and their disputed territories.

  61. Local Perspective? by LordDfg · · Score: 1

    Err.. It's great reading how everyone is praising her and saying she deserves every bit of it. Frankly I don't take Nobel Award seriously anymore, I mean Obama has one, that didn't stop the drone attacks against Pakistan..right? Well, now lets talk about education. In Pakistan we do have an education system which to be honest isn't that great, boys and girls both have to chance to get education, however due to backward nature of some regions they can't really study. They're told to study Quran btw and then seek education. Being a women in Pakistan isn't that easy especially when you're stuck in some Taliban influenced area. However, I can't recall her actions and campaigns actually making any real change, we do get some media attention but the schools which are still open are empty not because their aren't students, it's because the teachers don't care. It's basically corruption that is killing everyone here. Sure she is brave and stood up for education but at the same time, she is being promoted for other means. Lot of children who share the same fate as her and have been killed already. Still I don't see any real change in my Country. She is making a small change but I can assure you, she is being led on and being pampered by other AGENCIES for their own agenda. It's pretty much the way everything goes in Pakistan. NGO's, charities. They all say they're going to HELP people but in the end, they don't get anything. And if you're going to give the same level of education that I got, then it's better not to get educated at all. Seriously the course is outdated and isn't close to any International standard. But oh well. At least everyone has something to look forward to. In the mean time we sit and watch as protestors sit in the capital and demand for freedom and people get beaten and arrested for asking for freedom and their rights in Pakistan and here we see the flags for education. I ask you, when the Government is corrupt and won't listen to people, how can you run an education campaign? Everyone outside of Pakistan thinks that giving us education would fix things, it won't education can't work because the people in-charge wouldn't let it work. Google PTI Protests etc

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    1. Re:Local Perspective? by i.kazmi · · Score: 0

      Ah yes, the conspiracy theory of how all her accomplishments are just Western propaganda to defame Pakistan. I was wondering when someone would post something along these lines, thanks for not letting the world down!

      Bonus points for dragging out corruption and PTI Protests...

  62. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by i.kazmi · · Score: 0
    With men like you, no wonder we are seen as tools -_-

    Oh and as for shorter male life expectancy, war and hazardous jobs are not the major culprits as historically, men have generally consumed more tobacco, alcohol and drugs when compared to women in most societies, as a result they are more likely to die from many associated diseases such as lung cancer, tuberculosis and cirrhosis of the liver. On top of that, the mortality rate at birth for females is better then that for males. And to top it off, deaths resulting from cancer of the respiratory system, motor vehicle accidents, suicide, cirrhosis of the liver, emphysema, prostate cancer and coronary heart disease far outweigh the female mortality rate from breast cancer and cervical cancer.
    Also, for most of our history (leaving out the last ~50 to 100 years in the developed countries), life expectancy for women of child bearing age was much lower than males of the same age group.

    Decade old myth 'debunked' by sexists and misogynists you mean? Yeh, I can see why you'd believe that particular 'debunking'.

    Men do not breed themselves. Men are made by women, in the exact way women need them.

    I have no idea what you were trying to get at here but if I'm reading this right, it was something along the lines that women are supposed to be nothing more than child bearers for their male overlords. What in blazes is wrong with you?

  63. Re:Really? by i.kazmi · · Score: 0

    Errrrmmm you heard Taliban and jumped to the conclusion that she's from Afghanistan? Bravo...

    Reality check, Pakistani defence forces (army and air force mostly) are currently fighting what can only be described as a full fledged war against the Taliban in the North Western part of the country which would imply that the Taliban are not a phenomena in Afghanistan alone.

    Also, Malala is from Pakistan and the plight of women she brought world attention to, are mostly from the North Western part of the country.

    As for her accomplishments, becoming the poster child of women's right in an ultra-conservative society (not implying that the entire Pakistani society is ultra-conservative but most of the North Western region where she hails from is, the Taliban just made matters exponentially worse), getting shot in the head for her trouble, surviving and continuing the good fight while she still has a price on her head and becoming a symbol for progressives in a society being pushed towards extremism (through Saudi/Qatari funding amongst other factors) and getting reviled by pretty much every extremist, all while she's still only 17. I don't know what you think accomplishments entail but I personally think that that's quite a list the young lady has accrued in a very short span of time.

  64. Re:I wonder... by i.kazmi · · Score: 0

    Sod off

  65. Google "National IQ estimates" by NewYork · · Score: 0

    Google "National IQ estimates"
    * Pakistan = 84
    * India = 82
    http://www.photius.com/ranking...

  66. Communal Award by NewYork · · Score: 1

    In 1932 British regime recommended Independent States for SC/ST/Dalit/Untouchable/Muslim/Sikh/Christian/Parsi/Buddhist/Jain communities in 2nd Round Table Conference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...

  67. India still have 800 million slaves by NewYork · · Score: 0

    India have 800 million slaves. They're called https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wik...
    I have petitioned President Obama to direct New Delhi regime To create Independent States for these Communities In India http://wh.gov/i3EM3

  68. Re: Because she had a big impact on peace on eart by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Definitely no more propoganda than American history. The difference between Canadian/British and American history texts is pretty significant, at times.

  69. Re:Really? by strikethree · · Score: 1

    This girl has already done more in the less than 2 decades she's been alive then the whole of the Slashdot community combined.

    I would not be so sure of that if I were you... Not everyone here posts under their real name and lists their real life accomplishments.

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