China Bans "Human Flesh Searching"

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Typo in your headline by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 18:24 · Score: 0

Typo in your headline.. yikes!

Re:Typo in your headline by Hognoxious · 2014-10-11 18:50 · Score: 1

The last sentence is a train-wreck too. The fuckbrain just can't write, period.

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Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 18:33 · Score: 0

Seriously... I expect to see that kind of thing in a Score: -1 comment, NOT in the headline on the /. front page!

Google: by pitchpipe · 2014-10-11 18:35 · Score: 1

Google: Fresh Humans!

Brains, brains! BRAAAAAIIINNNNSSSS!!!!

They're just trying to stop the zombie apocalypse.

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Soylent green by ChadSmith4920 · 2014-10-11 18:38 · Score: 0

Soylent green is people. Just sayin.

Re:Soylent green by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 19:13 · Score: 0

Oh no this is a joke where I have to think!
Re:Soylent green by Hognoxious · 2014-10-11 20:05 · Score: 0

Wouldn't this be Soylent yellow?

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Re:Soylent green by davester666 · 2014-10-11 20:59 · Score: 3, Funny

No. You REALLY don't want to know how they make it yellow.

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Re:Soylent green by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 00:44 · Score: 0

Wouldn't this be Soylent yellow?
For the sake of overanalysing an obvious joke.... no, not unless the original had been "Soylent Mostly White".

I think fresh flesh should be banned, but by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 18:43 · Score: 0

then maybe for special occasions? How about dog? Dog still okay for the table in Peking?

Re:I think fresh flesh should be banned, but by ihtoit · 2014-10-11 19:34 · Score: 1

I thought dog was a table speciality in Seoul, and that it was cat in Beijing?
(assumption based on the local chinese buffet being closed due to EHO finding cat carcasses in various states of dismemberment in the walk-in. That was being served up as "mongolian lamb". Also, the first and last Korean restaurant I know of opening in my area lasted all of three months before the RSPCA accidentally found an RFID tag out of a labrador's leg on a plate of "lamb" cutlets).

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Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 18:45 · Score: 5, Funny

A Chinese couple get married ... and she's a virgin.

On the wedding night, she cowers naked under the bed sheets as her husband undresses. He climbs in next to her and tries to be reassuring: "My darling, I know this is your first time, and you are frightened. I assure you, I will give you anything you want, I will do anything you want. What do you want?"

"I want number 69" she replies.

"You want beef with broccoli?"

Re:Chinese Virgin by dk20 · 2014-10-12 01:27 · Score: 1

Just curious, how is your mandarin? I mean here you are making fun of their English accent so i have to assume you speak both English and Mandarin perfectly right?
Re:Chinese Virgin by ShanghaiBill · 2014-10-12 02:33 · Score: 5, Informative

Just curious, how is your mandarin?
His knowledge of Mandarin is nonexistent. Otherwise, he would know that confusing L and R is a Japanese thing, not Chinese. R and L are separate phonemes in Mandarin, and are pronounced the same as in English.
When native Chinese speakers learn English, they often have trouble with the TH and V phonemes, which are not used in Mandarin, with syllables ending in consonants other than "n" and "ng", and with compound consonants. My Mandarin speaking spouse said the most difficult English word for her is "twelfth".
On the other hand, Mandarin has phonemes not used in English, such as DZ and TS. They have two different P sounds, depending on whether or not it is aspirated. They also have an additional phoneme, written with an X, that is about halfway between S and SH. My native English ears have difficulty distinguishing that one, and when speaking it, I just memorized the position of my tongue (pressed up against the lower incisors), so now I can speak it, but can't hear it.
Re:Chinese Virgin by dk20 · 2014-10-12 02:40 · Score: 3, Interesting

My wife is also Chinese so I am familiar with a lot of this.
Among the many differences, Mandarin (Actually Chinese in general) has no concept of Plural so this is anther common mistake they make when speaking English.
English speaker "How many books do you have in your hand?"
Chinese response "Oh, i have three book right now".
Re:Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 04:18 · Score: 0

My wife is also Chinese so I am familiar with a lot of this.
Among the many differences, Mandarin (Actually Chinese in general) has no concept of Plural so this is anther common mistake they make when speaking English.
English speaker "How many books do you have in your hand?"
Chinese response "Oh, i have three book right now".
This is why I love slashdot. People can be an ass and not soon afterwards a person would come along and add insightful information about how the person was wrong instead of just saying they were wrong.
Re:Chinese Virgin by ShanghaiBill · 2014-10-12 04:43 · Score: 1

Mandarin has no concept of Plural so this is anther common mistake they make when speaking English.
English speakers generally don't have much difficulty with this when learning Chinese, because English has irregular plurals that work the same way. Deer, cattle, sheep, swine, furniture, salmon, etc. don't have plurals. You just have to learn that in Chinese, all nouns work like that.
Re: Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 08:26 · Score: 0

Ah except the biggie - pronouns are pluralized with -den
Wo - woden
Ni - niden
Ta - taden
Spoken mandarin is pretty nice for programming minds vs memorizing pages of noun genders and conjugation. Until you get to the special counting words (forgot the term).
Re:Chinese Virgin by towermac · 2014-10-12 11:31 · Score: 1

"My Mandarin speaking spouse said the most difficult English word for her is "twelfth".
My Mid-South redneck speaking self agrees with your spouse. I think the English were just showing off with that one.
Re: Chinese Virgin by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2014-10-12 18:54 · Score: 1

-dei/-deng is Cantonese. Maybe that's what you're thinking of.
In any case, in Mandarin, it's -men (). It's also used with nouns relating to people.
If you're talking about e.g. the tóu in liù tóu niú [six cows, literally "six head cow"], then the term you're looking for is "classifier".
It really sucks that we're stuck with Latin-1 here.

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Re:Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 05:38 · Score: 0

My ex would've said it more like, "Oh. Ai hah soree buh rah noh." Drove me up the wall...
Re:Chinese Virgin by almitydave · 2014-10-13 07:45 · Score: 1

"My Mandarin speaking spouse said the most difficult English word for her is "twelfth".
My Mid-South redneck speaking self agrees with your spouse. I think the English were just showing off with that one.
My 4th-grade (age ~9 in the US) teacher once mentioned in an off-hand way that she thought the most consonants in a row in a common everyday English word was 4, but after class I mentioned that "twelfths" has 5. I know there are others, but that word has a particularly low percentage (12.5) of vowels. I wonder if there is one with lower... off to the RegExes!

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Re:Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 13:43 · Score: 0

I'm a Chinese. If your joke is to hint "69" (sex night), you got it. Many Chinese confuse "six" and "sex" in spoken English. But the attributive adjective "number" is abrupt. No Chinese will make a mistake in this way.
Re:Chinese Virgin by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 19:30 · Score: 0

[citation needed]
Re: Chinese Virgin by RockDoctor · 2014-10-16 11:20 · Score: 1

It really sucks that we're stuck with Latin-1 here.
I wonder if my recently-sorted set of cat icons will work. Slight chance.
U+1F638 ; GRINNING CAT FACE WITH SMILING EYES ; U+1F639 ; CAT FACE WITH TEARS OF JOY ; U+1F63A ; SMILING CAT FACE WITH OPEN MOUTH ; U+1F63B ; SMILING CAT FACE WITH HEART-SHAPED EYES ; U+1F63c ; CAT FACE WITH WRY SMILE ; U+1F63d ; KISSING CAT FACE WITH CLOSED EYES ; U+1F63e ; POUTING CAT FACE ; U+1F63f ; CRYING CAT FACE ; U+1F640 ; WEARY CAT FACE ;
Bollocks, no.

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Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 19:09 · Score: 0

>racist
unfortunately, chinese people are not born speaking mandarin and do not have a racial/genetic problem with r & l.

i've actually heard racist stretched to cover religion e.g. "insulting islam is racist!"

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by HeadOffice · 2014-10-11 19:26 · Score: 2

>racist
unfortunately, chinese people are not born speaking mandarin and do not have a racial/genetic problem with r & l.

I think it is racist, as over 99% of people speaking Manderin are Chinese...

Showing Dracula the cross by DigiShaman · 2014-10-11 19:35 · Score: 4, Insightful

Let's get to the real heart of the issue here shall we. China, as with all authoritarian regimes is diametrically opposed to anarchy. The Internet = anarchy. Only through a non-government (centralized) community vetting process can the people make order out of the chaos. China abhors the concept of individual freedom and idea such as inalienable rights.

BOOM, Headshot. I nailed it!

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by AmiMoJo · 2014-10-11 21:03 · Score: 3, Interesting

What they are doing is not dissimilar to what some western countries are like. For example, (re)posting certain things on Twitter in the UK can land you in jail. Like China, there is no freedom of speech there. Aside from being bad for British citizens it makes it difficult for the UK to criticise China's actions because it is no better.
Before someone says that China is much worse than the UK, it doesn't matter. The principal is the same. The government decides some things unacceptable to say and uses the law to punish people saying them. The fact that two governments have different ideas of what is unacceptable is irrelevant.

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Rich0 · 2014-10-11 22:58 · Score: 1

Before someone says that China is much worse than the UK, it doesn't matter. The principal is the same. The government decides some things unacceptable to say and uses the law to punish people saying them. The fact that two governments have different ideas of what is unacceptable is irrelevant.
No argument there, but you did manage to pick the western country with some of the worst free speech laws around.
Granted, it seems like the US has been trying hard to be more like the UK in this regard, but things like libel laws are FAR weaker in the US. You can be punished for what you say in the US, but the burden of proof is on the person making the accusation to demonstrate that what you said was both untrue, and caused harm.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by khallow · 2014-10-11 23:46 · Score: 1

Before someone says that China is much worse than the UK, it doesn't matter. The principal is the same.
Hypocrisy is not the worst sin. It does matter that China is much worse than the UK in terms of suppression of free speech.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 23:55 · Score: 3, Interesting

Before someone says that China is much worse than the UK, it doesn't matter. The principal is the same. The government decides some things unacceptable to say and uses the law to punish people saying them. The fact that two governments have different ideas of what is unacceptable is irrelevant.
No argument there, but you did manage to pick the western country with some of the worst free speech laws around.
Granted, it seems like the US has been trying hard to be more like the UK in this regard, but things like libel laws are FAR weaker in the US. You can be punished for what you say in the US, but the burden of proof is on the person making the accusation to demonstrate that what you said was both untrue, and caused harm.
As a Greek that HAD free speech until last month (when the "anti-racist" law that forbits me to say that the dead Jews in WW2 was less than 6 millions, the Black people are not as smart as Chinese, the Muslims want to kill us, e.t.c., got voted) i must inform you that in most -if not all- of (Western) Europe there is no "free speech".
Just a couple of months ago a Swedish politician convicted for "hate" speech just because he mentioned that (and nothing other than that) all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants - the court decided that despite the fact that this was true (as the court accepted)... mentioning a true fact (and only that) is "hate" speech!!!
In my country (Greece) more than half of the parliament members of our nationalist party (with 10% of all the Greek votes for the European parliament elections 5 months ago) are in jail more than a year now because of such "free" speech...
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 00:04 · Score: 0

You have not idea what anarchy means. Go do a little research, eh?
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 00:04 · Score: 0

Wow... that was so insightful. I see the 8th graders are modding again.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 00:48 · Score: 0

Just a couple of months ago a Swedish politician convicted for "hate" speech just because he mentioned that (and nothing other than that) all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants - the court decided that despite the fact that this was true (as the court accepted)... mentioning a true fact (and only that) is "hate" speech!!!
This is untrue. His exact claim that was convicted as hate speech was: "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ."
You can still argue that you think he should be allowed to say this, but it is very different from your version above.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 01:37 · Score: 0

Just a couple of months ago a Swedish politician convicted for "hate" speech just because he mentioned that (and nothing other than that) all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants - the court decided that despite the fact that this was true (as the court accepted)... mentioning a true fact (and only that) is "hate" speech!!!
This is untrue. His exact claim that was convicted as hate speech was: "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ."
You can still argue that you think he should be allowed to say this, but it is very different from your version above.
I am the Greek who made the parent comment.
Even if you ignore the fact that what you claim he said ("it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam .") is TRUE (i know it because i know Muslims -mostly Turks- very well AND i have read the Koran and the Hadith) and surely no reason to convict someone for "hate speech", the truth is that he convicted because he mentioned that all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants, something that the court accepted that it was a true fact but not related to his opinion!!!
If you are Swedish (i am Greek as i said) please read the court's decision.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 01:56 · Score: 0

Just a couple of months ago a Swedish politician convicted for "hate" speech just because he mentioned that (and nothing other than that) all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants - the court decided that despite the fact that this was true (as the court accepted)... mentioning a true fact (and only that) is "hate" speech!!!
This is untrue. His exact claim that was convicted as hate speech was: "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ."
You can still argue that you think he should be allowed to say this, but it is very different from your version above.
I am the Greek who made the parent comment.
Even if you ignore the fact that what you claim he said ("it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam .") is TRUE (i know it because i know Muslims -mostly Turks- very well AND i have read the Koran and the Hadith) and surely no reason to convict someone for "hate speech", the truth is that he convicted because he mentioned that all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants, something that the court accepted that it was a true fact but not related to his opinion!!!
If you are Swedish (i am Greek as i said) please read the court's decision.
I am Swedish, and I know that some international websites run with your version but it is wrong (and if they manipulate facts this way you shouldn't trust their other stories as well). The exact quote I gave you is what he was convicted of. I have read it directly from him and followed the trial in local language.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Skarjak · 2014-10-12 02:17 · Score: 1

I always figured that the only speech that should maybe land you in trouble with the law is speech that incites violence against a certain group. No matter how much anyone might disagree with the statement above, it's certainly not that. It's pretty disappointing to see the state of "freedom of speech" on the planet these days...
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:25 · Score: 0

Just a couple of months ago a Swedish politician convicted for "hate" speech just because he mentioned that (and nothing other than that) all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants - the court decided that despite the fact that this was true (as the court accepted)... mentioning a true fact (and only that) is "hate" speech!!!
This is untrue. His exact claim that was convicted as hate speech was: "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ."
You can still argue that you think he should be allowed to say this, but it is very different from your version above.
I am the Greek who made the parent comment.
Even if you ignore the fact that what you claim he said ("it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam .") is TRUE (i know it because i know Muslims -mostly Turks- very well AND i have read the Koran and the Hadith) and surely no reason to convict someone for "hate speech", the truth is that he convicted because he mentioned that all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants, something that the court accepted that it was a true fact but not related to his opinion!!!
If you are Swedish (i am Greek as i said) please read the court's decision.
I am Swedish, and I know that some international websites run with your version but it is wrong (and if they manipulate facts this way you shouldn't trust their other stories as well). The exact quote I gave you is what he was convicted of. I have read it directly from him and followed the trial in local language.
I know that you will think that i am a stupid stubborn Greek that even if he does not understand Swedish and don't even remembers the name of this individual that got convicted insist in his opinion but... you are mistaken dear sir!
And lets ignore for the moment that mentioning that "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam .") is no reason to convict someone for "hate speech" - i hope you agree because some Swedish people think it's enough reason to convict someone...
The court decided that his opinion was not formed by true (as even the court accepted) facts (all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants) but from "hate", even if he did not made any hatefull proposal (such as violence againt immigrants) - in reallity the court decided that opinions should be formed not from facts but from "anti-racism" laws (like the one that forbits mentioning the nationality of the criminals - the one that got him convicted).
I am afraid that either you are manipulated by your own media or worse you may be one of those Swedes that think that manipulating the truth is o.k. if that helps their (sosialist) cause...
I apologize for my tone but i expect your opinion as to if mentioning that "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ." is enough reason to convict someone for "hate" speech.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:28 · Score: 0

I always figured that the only speech that should maybe land you in trouble with the law is speech that incites violence against a certain group. No matter how much anyone might disagree with the statement above, it's certainly not that. It's pretty disappointing to see the state of "freedom of speech" on the planet these days...
This I agree with (same Swede correcting the untrue story here), and this is a good debate to have. It is not at all necessary to misrepresent the facts to such a large degree to have a discussion on this conviction (he was given a fine), even the true version of events is controversial in regards to freedom of speech and should be debated.
But that debate can't be based on lies. Everything about the original story above here is wrong, including what the court did and didn't say, but I see it repeated on many websites, obviously meant to enrage people who take it as true.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:31 · Score: 0

Wrong, wrong, wrong and wrong.
In the UK they' could have fought the law. They could have made petitions and held rallies and occupied a square or something. People didn't think it was that important, so they didn't.
In China this decision is made not by a community elected by the people, but by literally a handful of people, and unlike UK, USA or any other European country, those 1 billion+ Chinese don't have a choice to fight back.
Third, in UK it might land you in jail. How much? A few months? A few years at most with suspension? In China would probably get you life imprisonment or an execution, or worse, get your friends and family under government scrutiny.
China IS WORSE than UK.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:54 · Score: 0

The court decided that his opinion was not formed by true (as even the court accepted) facts (all the previous year's rapes in Sweden were commited by immigrants)
Everything about this statement is completely untrue. The court accepted no such thing, and it is absolutely not true. And even the convicted politician is claiming no such thing. He is claiming immigrants are over-represented in rape cases. Which is a very different claim, and not in any way what he was convicted for.

(like the one that forbits mentioning the nationality of the criminals - the one that got him convicted).
Completely untrue. What got him convicted was the exact quote above, read the newspaper link I sent you. It is one of the largest Swedish newspapers.

I am afraid that either you are manipulated by your own media or worse you may be one of those Swedes that think that manipulating the truth is o.k. if that helps their (sosialist) cause...
I apologize for my tone but i expect your opinion as to if mentioning that "it is deeply ingrained in Islamic culture to rape and beat those women who do not abide by the teachings of Islam ." is enough reason to convict someone for "hate" speech.
As you can see I said to another poster here, your assumption is wrong. I don't think it is right to be convicted for such a quote. But that discussion is better had based on a factual representation of actual events, rather than a story that is more or less completely made up. I understand that you thought the story you read was true, that is perfectly understandable. I'm telling you (with citation) that it is not, that the site you read it on have misled you.
Re: Showing Dracula the cross by DigiShaman · 2014-10-12 03:11 · Score: 0

anÂarÂchy
ËanÉ(TM)rkÄ"
noun
a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority.
"he must ensure public order in a country threatened with anarchy"
synonyms: lawlessness, nihilism, mobocracy, revolution, insurrection, disorder, chaos, mayhem, tumult, turmoil
antonyms: government, order
absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal.

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 03:54 · Score: 0

What we've got here is failure to communicate...
So:
1) A guy experss an -true in my knowledge!- opinion -not proposing violence, just stating his opinion-: "immigrants -especially Muslims- rape" - and he get's prosecuted for that as "hate" speech!
2) In court he provides an external research (data about rapes from Mouslims) that proves him right - he may had formed an opinion without having an external research proved him right (i have formed some opinions based on my own observations), but he is lucky enough to have such research as proof...
3) The court states that his opinion is "hatefull" (regardless of beeing just an opinion without violent proposals - that's even supported by facts) and convicts him - they convict him because some opinions (not in favour of Muslims/immigrants) are not permited to expressed (while opinions in favour of Muslims/immigrants are permited... and officialy supported).
I think our "failure to communicate" is because someone sticks to expresion details (i admit that my English is really bad -yours is very good- but still...) - the "moral" of the story is that in your country (as in mine fron now on) there is no free speech. Please undertand that as a (stupid-stuborn) Greek i am not interesting in the details but in the "moral" of this story. Details are important but you may loose the "moral" - and you (stupid) Swedish are loosing the moral by sticking to the details about this (my story is not "untrue" or "very different" as you originaly responded).
I honestly respect you for your -clear- answer about if that conviction was right or wrong (and i respect you even more because you find it wrong!) and i apologize for my tone.
Stupid-Stuborn Greek...
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 04:35 · Score: 0

I am a Greek person that agrees with statements against Muslims/immigrants and disagrees with (stupid/left-wing) statements in favour of them - but what i disagree with more is having (stupid/left-wing) statements banned.
So... we agree!
P.S. If you are European stop being so disappointing to see the state of "freedom of speech" on the planet and start being very disappointing for that in Europe my friend...
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 09:38 · Score: 0

If I were you I would be mad at the untrustworthy site that sold you a bullshit story, but you seem intent on not going there.
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2014-10-12 19:40 · Score: 1

In other words, you're not even pretending to be objective.
I live in Stockholm, have been following this story in Swedish newspapers and TV, and the Anonymous Swede is correct.
What the guy tweeted was, "När ska ni journalister inse att djupt inrotad i Islams kultur att våldta och misshandla sådana kvinnor som inte rättar sig efter Islams lära." Which roughly translates as "When will you journos see that it's deeply rooted in the culture of Islam to rape and beat such women who don't comply with Islam's teachings." And this is what the court fined him for.
Rather than risk getting dobbed in for hate speech, though, I'll just invite to you read Quran and the hadiths and then judge for yourself.
cheers,
Non-Anonymous Immigrant in Sweden.

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Hognoxious · 2014-10-12 21:23 · Score: 1

What they are doing is not dissimilar to what some western countries are like.
s/some western/all/

Before someone says that China is much worse than the UK, it doesn't matter.

Really? Have you asked the Tienanmen Square protestors?

The principal is the same.
Been sent to his office again, have you?

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 04:29 · Score: 0

The "untrustworthy" site (a Greek nationalist blog) that reported that story had -some of the- the details you reported to me (and i forgot after all those months, so i reported them now a little "off") - it also had the, more important, "moral" of the story!
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 04:41 · Score: 0

If you read the whole thread you will find that i have read the Quaran AND many Hadiths, know many Muslims, and my bad opinion about Muslims is based on facts - you may also understand that free speech (something important for my Greek ancestrors when building the Western Civilization) means that mentioning "When will you journos see that it's deeply rooted in the culture of Islam to rape and beat such women who don't comply with Islam's teachings." must be... free!
Objective means to form opinion after examination - i have done that and i have formed my opinion (it may change or it my not - but my current -bad about Muslims/immigrants- opinion is objective).
My whole family was (not Muslems!) immigrants in Germany, where some of them still live...
Re:Showing Dracula the cross by badkarmadayaccount · 2014-10-13 09:01 · Score: 1

You do know that the statement is not a lie? South Africa "corrective rape" is in the same league.

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Zontar+The+Mindless · 2014-10-13 09:26 · Score: 1

That is so completely and utterly beside the point, I don't know where to begin.
You made a claim about a court case. Said claim was shown to be false.
We were never arguing about your opinion of the case; we were arguing about something you presented as fact, not opinion, which was shown not to be true.

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Re:Showing Dracula the cross by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 21:56 · Score: 0

The "untrustworthy" site (a Greek nationalist blog) that reported that story had -some of the- the details you reported to me (and i forgot after all those months, so i reported them now a little "off") - it also had the, more important, "moral" of the story!
It seems the "moral" is that facts don't matter when you have an agenda. The claim about what he was convicted for was wrong, the claim about all rapes being done by immigrants was wrong, the claim about what the court accepted as fact and not was wrong. These are not details, *nothing* about the story was true!
If that is the kind of twisted information you like to base your opinions on, I guess that is your choice, I just wanted to correct the lies for the rest of the people who saw this made up story.

Oh well by JockTroll · 2014-10-11 19:35 · Score: 0

Back to canned humans then.

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Re:Oh well by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 20:18 · Score: 0

Bachelor chow made from real bachelors.

Flesh Search, in the dark by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 19:38 · Score: 0

So that is the purpose of Flesh Light. Illuminating!

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 19:43 · Score: 0

Seriously... I expect to see that kind of thing in a Score: -1 comment,

FOR A URUGUAY UNIVERSE

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 19:56 · Score: 0

Not a typo if its intentional.

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 20:01 · Score: 0

Pronunciation, not pronounciation. Just making fun of you.

Re: s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Threni · 2014-10-11 20:13 · Score: 0

Racist? A lot of Chinese people say L when they mean R and vice versa. Pointing this out isn't racist.

Please correct the headline by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 20:30 · Score: 0

As noted in other comments, the related (wikipedia) article is about "Human flesh search", not "Human fresh search".-Ignacio Agulló

Re: s/Fresh/Flesh/ by DNS-and-BIND · 2014-10-11 20:37 · Score: 3, Informative

Bullshit! It is Japanese people who have trouble with the R/L sounds. Chinese can pronounce R just fine, while L might be a bit off but still understandable and definitely never confused for R.

Chinese can't pronounce TH, V, and short I because those sounds don't exist in their language.

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Vigilantism, Mob Rule by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 20:53 · Score: 0

Occasionally they get they right guy and he deserves it, but all in all "human flesh searching" and "doxing" are just vigilantism and mob rule.

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by AmiMoJo · 2014-10-11 20:55 · Score: 3, Interesting

Actually most Chinese people can make the L sound without any problems, it's the R sound that they have difficulty with. You see it a lot with Chinese people who speak Japanese, where the 'r' sound is closer to an English 'r' and than 'l'.

It's not by any means a universal problem either. My Chinese girlfriend can make both sounds easily. In fact my name has an L in it but transliterated into Japanese it becomes an R, and since we speak to each other in Japanese she always says it with an R even though she can say it the English way too. I think I prefer the Japanese version anyway.

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Re: s/Fresh/Flesh/ by taiwanjohn · 2014-10-11 21:15 · Score: 5, Informative

In my experience, it varies from region to region. Some have trouble with V, some don't; some mix up L and R, some don't; most have trouble with terminal consonants. Even when speaking their so-called "common" language, Mandarin, the regional accents can be almost incomprehensible (the way a Texan might have trouble in Ireland, or a Welshman in Wyoming). A perfect example of this was Deng Xiaoping, who was notoriously hard to understand.

This is why Chinese language TV stations (incl. Taiwan, HK, etc) tend to have Chinese subtitles for their Chinese content. A lot of folks, especially in the older generation, just don't speak Mandarin all that well.

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s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 21:21 · Score: 2

I can't tell if it's a stupid accidental typo or a stupid intentional joke. :/

Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 21:28 · Score: 0

The difference between pronunciation and pronounce in English is illogical but in no way serves as a barrier to communication, whilst your retort serves as prima facie evidence that you are an idiot who can't comprehend a point.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by HeadOffice · 2014-10-11 21:48 · Score: 2

Hmm, you (or another Anonymous C.) were the one linking this specific pronounciation to Mandarin.
If you would agree that over 99% of Mandarin speaking people are Chinese, wouldn't it be reasonable to say that this should be called making fun of, not an arbitrary, but a Chinese foreign-language speaking person?
'Making fun of' is not necessarily bullying, but it is still racist if it is based on the characteristics of the (Manderin speaking) Chinese.
Re: s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 22:44 · Score: 0

the number two, in pinyin Èr, is pronounced "r"
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 22:48 · Score: 1

When making fun of somebody (in a non bullying way) this is always related to that person. Following your logic, making fun of something is always racist. Like when I say, zze Germans. Now I'm racist to Germans. Or I say say aboot, racist to Canadians. Do you know that old television series, allo allo? Racist to the French and the Germans.
Your logic is flawed in this sense. It's just funny when you say something like 'Flied Lice?'. It really isn't racist, at least for my definition of it.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by conscarcdr · 2014-10-11 23:20 · Score: 1

The only Chinese person I've heard pronouncing "r" as "l" was from South Park. How do I know? I'm Chinese.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2014-10-12 00:45 · Score: 1

What's racist about foreign people having accents? That's not even genetic, that's a cultural-linguistic issue.

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Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by K.+S.+Kyosuke · 2014-10-12 00:48 · Score: 1

Racist is when we start prosecuting, harassing or bullying other human beings depending on their characteristic looks or culture.
Actually, that's racial or ethnic discrimination (depending whether it's based on the looks or culture); racism is merely ascribing characteristics, qualities, or abilities as innate to races.

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Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Opportunist · 2014-10-12 02:07 · Score: 1

Nah, jokes about religions are politically incorrect since it's not ok anymore to make fun of idiots.
My bad, I meant "people with special intelligence capabilities".

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Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 08:31 · Score: 0

My bad, I meant "people with special intelligence capabilities".
Hey, come on. Leave the CIA alone.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by HeadOffice · 2014-10-12 08:34 · Score: 1

Can't argue against logic, if jokes about Germans are allright then making fun of the Chinese speaking English can't be racist either...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 08:38 · Score: 0

Case in point.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 11:05 · Score: 0

> "racism is merely ascribing characteristics, qualities, or abilities as innate to races."
That's not how the term is most commonly used and you know it. You're just being a dildo.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 17:29 · Score: 0

Judging from your comments it looks like your computer might be infected with a halfwit for an operator. You should return it, and not buy a new one.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by KingMotley · 2014-10-13 02:54 · Score: 1

And since Chinese isn't a race, it's not racist. It may not be nice, but racist it isn't.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 06:34 · Score: 0

I think you're confusing the "r" sound with the flap sound Japanese make for the "r" sound. Mandarin doesn't have the flap consonant, and neither does a lot of English dialects, like American and Australian. It's easy for Mandarin speakers to pronounce the American "r" sound.
Re:s/Fresh/Flesh/ by lucien86 · 2014-10-14 09:08 · Score: 1

.. . . that old television series, allo allo? Racist to the French and the Germans. ...
You also forgot racist to the Italians and above all the British. BTW I suspect you are not getting the humour, it is not really racist it is really making humour about old cultural stereotypes. . . If anything it is gently anti-racist . . it is the BBC after all.

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What is the summary even about? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 21:55 · Score: 2

What is this drivel? I have no idea what this paragraph I just read was supposed to mean. Is this literally about cannibalism, or is "human flesh" some kind of metaphor, and if so, for what?

What the hell are "personal rights violation cases?"
Are we talking real personal rights, like the right to personal freedom of speech, or bullshit personal rights, like the right not have a personally-held patent infringed?

Re:What is the summary even about? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-11 22:41 · Score: 0

Yes it kind of a metaphor, just like "meatspace".
Re:What is the summary even about? by __aaltlg1547 · 2014-10-12 01:15 · Score: 4, Informative

"Human flesh search" is a method of identifying what/who/what place is in a picture by posting it widely on the internet and encouraging people to tell you what/who/where it is.
There's nothing wrong with that aspect of it and that's not what China is trying to ban. They're trying to ban the use of it to harm and harass people (including government officials). Notable instances of it include people who were driven to suicide because they could not stand the harassment.
Re:What is the summary even about? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 03:20 · Score: 1

Yes, it's a metaphor and not a new one, but Chinese expressions don't always make their way over into the Anglosphere. If you want to read more about human flesh searches and Chinese internet culture in general, I'd recommend EastSouthWestNorth, which gives you some insight into what China is like. Very tabloid; it's like a tabloid version of Law and Order. For the "human flesh search," specifically, try http://zonaeuropa.com/20080802_1.htm.
Re:What is the summary even about? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 05:40 · Score: 0

Come on, click on that link in TFS! Or try using a search engine first if a term isn't familiar. Even Baidu has it. First link: English Wikipedia article, second link: Human flesh search, ban or not China.
Re:What is the summary even about? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 16:16 · Score: 0

I agree with the sentiment that the headline is pure clickbait, without a description of the "human flesh" part, total clickbait bullshit. Fuck you hackingbear.
Re:What is the summary even about? by jfengel · 2014-10-13 10:46 · Score: 1

Thanks. Cripes, would it have been so hard to define it in TFS?

Fix the title by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 00:18 · Score: 1, Insightful

Timothy: I don't often post comments but this is just racist. Fix the title now.

Re:Fix the title by wonkey_monkey · 2014-10-12 01:52 · Score: 1

Never attribute to racism what can more easily be attributed to ineptitude.

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Re:Fix the title by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 05:56 · Score: 0

I don't often post comments
Strike that, I do post a lot of comments. More than anybody else. But most aren't so Insightful.

Cannibals by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 01:36 · Score: 0

I thought for a second that China was making cannibals searching for food illegal.

CITATION by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:11 · Score: 0

Here you have a local source on these facts through Google translate

The version of the story you have is completely wrong. You have been misled by sites that manipulate facts on you and should distrust all information from these for the future.

Re:CITATION by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 02:49 · Score: 0

That's the "aftonbladet style" side of the story, not the court's exact decision.
Re:CITATION by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 03:12 · Score: 0

Here is the courts exact decision that says exactly the same.
On page 2 the description of what he is accused of is the quote I have been giving you all along, and only that.
And you can see in no way does the court accept the "fact" that all rapes in Sweden are by immigrant - even the accused politician doesn't claim that.
I understand that you were misled by an untrustworthy source. But here is the actual court document.
Re:CITATION by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 04:17 · Score: 0

I admire your (Swedish) attention to details - and politeness (if you were a Greek like me...)
Now that you found the court's decision... inspect it!
And think about it my Swedish friend...

Human flesh? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 04:26 · Score: 0

Just go to Royston Vasey and talk to Hilary.

(BTW, captcha was "devour")

Par for the course by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 04:44 · Score: 0

No socialist government can let people be able to criticize without being caught.

No Human Flesh Searching? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-12 05:30 · Score: 0

So they're going ban porn? Why don't they put their people in prison cities, with chainless collars on them while their at it. China is bad news. Period.

The title is correct! by cciRRus · 2014-10-12 15:57 · Score: 1

No, that is NOT a racist typo! That is the direct translation of the actual Chinese phrase "ren rou sou suo".

ren rou: human flesh
sou suo: search

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Re:The title is correct! by Strangely+Familiar · 2014-10-12 17:08 · Score: 1

Originally when the summary was posted (I read it when there were just two comments), the title said "Human Fresh Searching". At some point, the title was corrected to say "Human Flesh Searching".

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Human *FLESH* Search is correct! by cciRRus · 2014-10-12 16:01 · Score: 1

No, "flesh" is NOT a racist typo! That is the direct translation of the actual Chinese phrase "ren rou sou suo".

ren rou: human flesh
sou suo: search

The idea is simply to leverage on the wide viewership of Internet communities (i.e.g forums and BBSes) to search or identify the actual "human flesh" responsible for the atrocities depicted in viral videos.

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But this kind of thing is totally fine by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-13 00:47 · Score: 0

But this kind of thing is totally fine

You know... by frank_adrian314159 · 2014-10-13 02:14 · Score: 1

There are thousands of dialects and pidgins in the world. The problem is not mainly that we misunderstand one another, but that we assume that the use of these linguistic markers tell us more than where the people that use them come from; that somehow they are lazy or stupid for not "learning our language".

Your language (no matter what it is) is not a special snowflake. It is not fixed. It is not "universal". I doubt we ever will have a universal language. Different people will always speak languages differently. And speaking it differently says next to nothing about the value of the person or the value of what they are saying.

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