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Ubuntu Turns 10

Scott James Remnant, now Technical Lead on ChromeOS, was a Debian developer before that. That's how he became involved from the beginning (becoming Developer Manager, and then serving on the Technical Board) on the little derivative distribution that Mark Shuttleworth decided to make of Debian Unstable, and for which the name Ubuntu was eventually chosen. On this date in 2004, Ubuntu 4.10 -- aka Warty Warthog, or just Warty -- was released, and Remnant has shared a detailed, nostalgic look back at the early days of the project that has (whatever else you think of it ) become one of the most influential in the world of open source and Free software. I was excited that Canonical sent out disks that I could pass around to friends and family that looked acceptably polished to them in a way that Sharpie-marked Knoppix CD-ROMs didn't, and that the polish extended to the installer, the desktop, and the included constellation of software, too.

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  1. before unbuntu by asv108 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was running Gentoo on my desktop and laptop to get the latest performance optimizations since most distros at the time were optimized for older processors. Ubuntu was really the first distro that was optimized out of the box for performance desktops. I don't miss debugging compilation issues with "emerge world".

    1. Re:before unbuntu by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Informative

      I still don't understand why we would even need fast chips and premium OpenGL drivers just to run the desktop acceptably. Compositing some simple application bitmaps shouldn't require everything tuned up to the maximum. Windows is super smooth even on GMA950 and there's plenty of eye candy.

  2. sharpie marks? Marketing needs a shakeup by ihtoit · · Score: 2

    when I distributed my Knoppix-based desktop demo I had a licensed logo (Sitting Baby Tux by Nicolas Rougier) and 8cm printed discs. That thing was insanely popular, probably not least because SQUEEE! factor.

    http://www.labri.fr/perso/nrou... -looks feckin' fantastic in a frame.

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    1. Re:sharpie marks? Marketing needs a shakeup by ihtoit · · Score: 2

      I'd've gone the Ubuntu route had I not already spent many hours whittling a DVD distro (Knoppix) to a miniDVD size (1.8GB from 4.1GB) simply by pruning application trees. You can have half a gig back with the simple expedient of chopping most of the word processing and graphics packages - OpenOffice and The GIMP does most of what most people could ever want in desktop publishing, and they take less than 200MB between them. I did leave all of the reference drivers in though, Knoppix isn't Knoppix without the amazing job Klaus did with cramming those in.

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  3. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by NotDrWho · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Linux advocates say they want Linux to take over the desktop and become more supported and accepted, but anytime some distro gets even close to breaking into the mainstream, they all turn against it.

    Discuss

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  4. Happy Birthday by davidwr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I didn't realize it was only 11000 months old. I thought it was more like 1010 times that age.

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    1. Re:Happy Birthday by MMC+Monster · · Score: 2

      Ubuntu 5.04 was my first exposure to Linux. I chose it because even in those early days of the distribution, Ubuntu was known for fixing the dependency issues in the repositories. That was their claim to fame.

      I moved on a couple years ago (to Linux Mint, of course), but the Ubuntu base is great, since I know I can get just about any linux app packaged for it.

      Happy Birthday!

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  5. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by i.r.id10t · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In my case, Ubuntu was very close and 10.04 was working great for some very non-technical people who wanted to check facebook and gmail and write the occasional paper.

    Then the gnome3/unity crap started....

    Now they are very happy with Mint and the MATE desktop.

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  6. Happy Birthday by zoward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Between Unity and Mir, it's considered cool to Bash Ubuntu these days, but even their most stalwart detractors have to admit they raised the bar for desktop Linux from the first day of their release. There's a reason it's become both a popular distro and a popular base for derivatives.

    Thank you, Ubuntu, and Happy Birthday.

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  7. The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Yep, everybody hates Ubuntu these days, the only linux distro that had a chance gets hated into oblivion. Open source is anti success. They did everything to stop them from ever getting market share.

    1. Re:The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If Ubuntu had focused on making a good distro and left the political correctness stuff out it might've gotten less hate.

  8. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why do people always forget about kubuntu? Its Ubuntu the way it should be, minus the amazon spyware and unity crap and with best desktop environment around.

  9. debian to be forked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://debianfork.org/

  10. Gnome3 FTW! by operator_error · · Score: 2

    Agreed. Gnome3 user here; and I like it! Me no likes Unity; although I can start to see how I might use it, due to recent evolutions.

    Also FWIW, every single non-techie, former Windows XP refugee I've turned onto Ubuntu Gnome3 likes Gnome3/Ubuntu also. They tell me they can't believe they used to live that way.

  11. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Kjella · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Except they're not chasing the mainstream, they're chasing the hype wave of Apple/Google/Microsoft trying to be the "big next thing" instead of what is actually mainstream today with Win7/OS X. Instead of picking a market and staying on target to finish the job they still haven't finished on the office desktop from 1999 or the laptop from 2004 or smartphone from 2009 or tablet from 2014. And at this rate I don't think Ubuntu will stay in one place long enough to be relevant to anyone outside the ~1% of the desktop market Linux owns today.

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  12. Xubuntu by tepples · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Then the gnome3/unity crap started

    I used GNOME 2 during 11.04 when this Unity crap started getting included. Once GNOME 2 became "fallback" in 11.10, I put up with Unity for a month, but after that I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and never looked back. The only drawback is that I can't think of what the f in Xfce is supposed to stand for after the decade-old migration from XForms to GTK+.

  13. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by armanox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually, plenty of mainstream companies support Linux. You may have heard of some of them: IBM, Mathworks, Autodesk?

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  14. Ubuntu changed everything by emblemparade · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Ubuntu changed everything we've come to expect about free, general-purpose operating systems.

    People don't give Launchpad enough credit: for the first time, we have an integrated build/test/deploy process for the whole operating system. It takes the solid Debian root and adds a layer of modern quality assurance that we've never seen before. There's still a ways to go, and I'm sure people will complain about one or other package being broken, but the fact is that Ubuntu raised the bar of what we've come to expect.

    Slashdotters and others also love to complain about one particular package or another. Obviously, the desktop environment (or just the shell) is the first thing that most people see. But it's also a small project in the larger scope of Ubuntu. Don't like Unity or GNOME 3 or KDE or Xfce or LXDE or Enlightenment? You have lots of options. Don't like systemd? Well, Ubuntu devoted a lot of time and effort to Upstart, but made the mature decision to abide by Debian's decision to go with systemd (for now). Don't like either? Yeah, well, life these days must be truly hell for poor little you.

    And now, Ubuntu may do for mobile what it did for the desktop. In 10 years, I hope we can celebrate the existence of truly free devices, onto which we can install any package we want -- including alternative UIs for those who will undoubtedly not like Unity.

    1. Re:Ubuntu changed everything by neorush · · Score: 2

      Hear hear! We switched from Debian to Ubuntu years ago on all production servers...there are some real polishes that make managing the servers that much easier. Yes, it can be done with Debian, but its already done on Ubuntu...

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  15. Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by BrendaEM · · Score: 3, Interesting

    People are choosing other distributions for a reason, actually two.
    Get rid of Unity and stop collecting search information, or fade into obscurity.

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    1. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by DiamondGeezer · · Score: 2

      Luxury. I had to use a magnetized needle and a steady hand.

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  16. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by armanox · · Score: 2

    In which case I'd have to point to Chromebooks and Android devices.

    I'd like to make a nice long rant next against GNOME and Red Hat, but to keep it short GNOME shot everyone in the foot with GNOME 3.

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  17. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Informative

    Unity did not arrive until 11.04 and I would say that the mass movement to Mint did not happen before 12.04.

  18. Less tinkering, more using by Chewbacon · · Score: 2

    I have less and less time to tinker with linux to make it work. Started using KDE, but kept running into issues where it refused to let me login - just get a blank desktop. Went to Xubuntu, but half the time I suspended my laptop it would refuse to wake completely unless I restarted lightdm, which restarted my session. What a productivity killer. I recently went back to Ubuntu and Unity and haven't had such problems. I gotta give Ubuntu credit, they make it a nice and easy experience, which Joe Schmoe who just wants to check his email likes.

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