Ubuntu Turns 10

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Posted by timothy on Monday October 20, 2014 @02:10AM from the ten-years-is-a-long-time dept.

Scott James Remnant, now Technical Lead on ChromeOS, was a Debian developer before that. That's how he became involved from the beginning (becoming Developer Manager, and then serving on the Technical Board) on the little derivative distribution that Mark Shuttleworth decided to make of Debian Unstable, and for which the name Ubuntu was eventually chosen. On this date in 2004, Ubuntu 4.10 -- aka Warty Warthog, or just Warty -- was released, and Remnant has shared a detailed, nostalgic look back at the early days of the project that has (whatever else you think of it ) become one of the most influential in the world of open source and Free software. I was excited that Canonical sent out disks that I could pass around to friends and family that looked acceptably polished to them in a way that Sharpie-marked Knoppix CD-ROMs didn't, and that the polish extended to the installer, the desktop, and the included constellation of software, too.

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Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:17 · Score: -1

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1. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:17 · Score: -1
  
  A polished turd is still a turd
2. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:22 · Score: -1
  
  So the polish extended to the poop-brown color scheme?
3. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by NotDrWho · 2014-10-20 02:23 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  Linux advocates say they want Linux to take over the desktop and become more supported and accepted, but anytime some distro gets even close to breaking into the mainstream, they all turn against it.
  Discuss
  
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4. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by i.r.id10t · 2014-10-20 02:30 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  In my case, Ubuntu was very close and 10.04 was working great for some very non-technical people who wanted to check facebook and gmail and write the occasional paper.
  Then the gnome3/unity crap started....
  Now they are very happy with Mint and the MATE desktop.
  
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5. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by jones_supa · 2014-10-20 02:33 · Score: 1
  
  Actually there was no end to the whine about GNOME2 which Ubuntu 10.04 was based on.
6. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:38 · Score: 1
  
  Anytime you have freedom, people are free to disagree. Don't you agree?
7. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:39 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Why do people always forget about kubuntu? Its Ubuntu the way it should be, minus the amazon spyware and unity crap and with best desktop environment around.
8. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:39 · Score: 0
  
  They just want to be the special flower fighting against the evil Apple/Microsoft, they don't actually want linux to be mainstream. If linux is mainstream what makes them special?
9. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by KozmoStevnNaut · 2014-10-20 02:42 · Score: 0, Troll
  
  You can't polish a turd, but you can roll it in glitter!
  
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10. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Kjella · 2014-10-20 02:45 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Except they're not chasing the mainstream, they're chasing the hype wave of Apple/Google/Microsoft trying to be the "big next thing" instead of what is actually mainstream today with Win7/OS X. Instead of picking a market and staying on target to finish the job they still haven't finished on the office desktop from 1999 or the laptop from 2004 or smartphone from 2009 or tablet from 2014. And at this rate I don't think Ubuntu will stay in one place long enough to be relevant to anyone outside the ~1% of the desktop market Linux owns today.
  
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11. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:47 · Score: -1
  
  Whining and forking is all Linux users do. They whine because their favorite distro isn't supported, they whine when someone releases drivers that aren't open source, they whine just to hear themselves whine. Then, when their favorite distros change in any way or start to achieve any success, they fork--creating yet another obscure fucking distro and fracturing an already hopelessly fractured Linux community even more.
  And yet they have the gall to WONDER why no developer in their right mind supports Linux. Valve is about the only mainstream company still supporting Linux--and that's only because they have some half-assed idea about making their own Linux-based SteamOS (and letting 3rd parties make all the hardware for it and take all the risks on this half-assed idea, of course).
12. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:48 · Score: 0
  
  I have Windows 7. Because I have scanners (unusual document scanner from Fuji that read 60 pages at a time too) that I want to work. It's really good. And an intuos pen tablet to draw with.
  Don't foist Linux on unsuspecting victims unless you explain to them first they aren't allowed to have other hardware outside a keyboard and mouse, nor tether a smartphone, nor streaming, or anything fun really, because Linux can't keep up with the times and must punish its users for it and the evagelizers don't say a word.
13. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:49 · Score: 1
  
  Kubuntu nearly died with Intrepid, because of the not-ready KDE4 debacle.
  KDE is awesome again, but it may be too late for a lot of former Kubuntu users.
  (Kubuntu's been the only OS on my computers since Edgy).
14. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by iggymanz · 2014-10-20 02:52 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, people are turning against Linux Mint? Last I checked, they were abandoning Ubuntu for that, and for good reasons.
15. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:56 · Score: -1
  
  Linux fans are like that hipster friend of yours who won't shut up about some obscure band, and how you JUST HAVE to listen to them, and how great they are, etc. Then one day said band has an actual hit and finally gets some mainstream attention, only to have your hipster friend to turn against them because they've "sold out." Suddenly, he's not the hip outsider who can brag about being into this obscure band that the mainstream world "just doesn't get." So he turns on them, calls them sellouts, and moves on to the next obscure indie group who you JUST HAVE to listen to.
16. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:01 · Score: 0
  
  So fucking true. They are that segment of population that has to be against something in order to give their life some meaning. Big corporations are the usual targets. Listening to that stallman free nazi software makes me happy that he doesn't have kids.
17. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:05 · Score: 0
  
  Generalization.
  I am a Linux advocate. Linux is a solid server OS, and Android is pretty sweet, too. As a user of Linux on my desktop for well over a decade, I don't really care if Linux "takes over the desktop," and I wouldn't want it to happen at the expense of all the distros applying clones of bad ideas from proprietary operating systems.
  As a developer, I love Linux on the desktop because I can make it exactly what I want it to be. I'm not interested in supporting others in their own use of desktop Linux, and I'm definitely not interested my distro becoming crappier just because some idiot maintainers think becoming more like Apple will lead to good things, but I'm otherwise not against other people adopting Linux as their desktop OS. Just as long as there is at least one sane distro left, I'll be fine; for now, for me, that's Gentoo.
18. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by armanox · 2014-10-20 03:10 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Actually, plenty of mainstream companies support Linux. You may have heard of some of them: IBM, Mathworks, Autodesk?
  
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19. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:15 · Score: 0
  
  And if Mint achieves any mainstream success will you abandon that too, for yet another fork?
20. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:17 · Score: 0
  
  Only if they make it rubbish in the quest for mainstream success.
21. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:22 · Score: 1
  
  Actually you can polish a turd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
22. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:24 · Score: -1, Flamebait
  
  When you're down to calling those companies "mainstream," that's just sad. And the only reason they support Linux is because they make expert systems software designed to run on Linux server farms and workstations. If you think that's "mainstream," you're high.
  "Hey kiddo, how did school go today?"
  "Great mom, but I couldn't wait to get home and fire up Maya for some 3D animation rendering on the Linux workstation!"
  "Sounds like fun."
  "And later, I'm going over to Jimmy's house. He's running a worldwide gold futures analytic analysis in MATLAB on his server farm!"
  "Well, have funny, sweetie."
23. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:28 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, there was no end to the whine, there where bugs, badly designed UI, etc. . That is the basic state of every Software in wide spread use - if you have users you have complaints. Gnome 3 set out to fix the whining by borrowing Apples design philosophy and reality distortion field - it failed badly and broke everything that worked.
  With the Gnome 3 introduction I moved to XFCE 4 which had half the features of Gnome 2, which is more than could be said about Gnome 3.
24. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:32 · Score: 0
  
  So in computers, "mainstream" means "what kids do after school"? Where's that Willy Wonka image macro?
25. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:42 · Score: -1
  
  Ubuntu has been a piece of shit. Its a divisive asshole distro. We have Slash, Redhat, Debian, Gentoo. Plenty. This fucking prick loser asshole Mark fuckleworth Shuttleworth, a rich bitch whose real qualifications are now that rich faggot that has been in space, wants to feel like he has a dick because his boyfriend the supreme asshole faggot, the shit-sound-system asshole Lennart Poettering complained when mark fucks his ass he can't feel anything.
  So Mark ShuttleWorth ShuttleBitch pussy needs to find a big dick, so he launches FuckBuntu, or Ubuntu. Anyways, its simply meant to fuck with and shit on things that Redhat and the community are already doing correctly.
  Ubuntu makes sure to fuck with shit that works, provide horrible support, inject far more bugs than they fix and generally come up with shit after redhat does it, only shittier with less support.
  FUCK YOU ASSHOLE WHO WORK AT CANONICAL AND WHO INJECT UBUNTU ANYWHERE. You suck. Your OS sucks. You cause developers to get fucking lazy and constantly "need" the latest shit. Ubuntu is the bane of sysadmins everywhere. You are stupid fat lazy shitheads that use apt-get install on an hourly basis to suck the entire fucking internet into your shit system for your shit code to make sure your gay shit code relies on Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, Python. Your gay shit code has to install Puppet and/or Chef. Your gay shit Juju charms and your gay shit landscape sucks.
  Jane Silber, the current cunt CEO bitch, is a whore who "lead" some sort of a TV station or marketing shit before coming to canonical.
  Anyways, a big fat FUCK YOU to Lennart Poeterring, a big fat FUCK YOU to everyone at Canonical.
  Your stupid lame shit has caused android to become one of the strongest Linux distros ever. You did this by sticking your shit-smeared penis up RedHat's ass causing fragmentation where needed. This has allowed other large and competent from the engineering standpoint companies come in and hijack Linux for themselves.
  Mir is shit. Launchpad is shit. Upstart is shit. Your dependency issues are shit. apt-get update fails all the time with corrupted cache files you cant ever fix this bug? Your near monthly release of LTS releases sucks shit because its unrealistic to support LTS more than 2 versions old especially for Canonical. Your love of Lennart Poettering shit is shit. Your apt from Shitnonical need like 50 helper apps and can still barely do the shit yum/rpm can do (2 commands versus a gaggle of half-assed shit). Your Unity sucks shit. Your INABILITY to pick the STABLE linux and stick with it. You Ubuntu canonical fucking assholes constantly pick undead shit kernels and keep them alive and ignore the STABLE kernel series.
  Fuck you canonical. Fuck you self proclaimed dev-ops shitheads who don't automate but to create massive horrible dependencies and your gay shit tools that infest and infect OSes being deployed with shittily generated ssl keys with trivial issues such as name/ip mismatches, plugins , toolchains.
  Fuck you for making the next wave of developers suck the entire internet down into everything just to have a Hello World.
  Ubuntu , you are a cunt, a fucker, a curse and a cancer. Fuck you.
  tsarkon reports
  The Ubuntu fucks are poetterizing linux.
26. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by sqorbit · 2014-10-20 03:48 · Score: 1
  
  The problem is that there are way too many ideas of what should go into a "mainstream" linux distro. Whether you want to hate Microsoft and Apple or not they make a OS, put things they want in it and tell the consumer that those are the options. Without a clear, single focus on what would make a mainstream distro work there will never be a distro that gets the support enough to become accepted by the masses.
  
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27. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:51 · Score: 0
  
  Maybe is it because they want a *good* desktop? Not any shit with a penguin logo?
28. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by jones_supa · 2014-10-20 03:51 · Score: 1
  
  Yes, there was no end to the whine, there where bugs, badly designed UI, etc.
  Well, to recap, the basic arguments against GNOME2 were that it significantly reduced configurability over GNOME1, that it was bloated, and that the "Applications / Places / System" menu structure felt uncomfortable. I guess one could relatively easily dig up the large Slashdot discussions where all the complaining takes place.
29. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:53 · Score: 0
  
  You know what he means.
  He gave students as one example. It also applies to stay-at-home moms, or the elderly, or to pretty much everyone else who is considered an "average" person. You know, the people who outnumber nerds/geeks 10,000 to 1.
30. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:02 · Score: 0
  
  I don't see people turning against Ubuntu or Debian or Firefox or GNOME 3 because they're getting mainstream exposure or getting more popular.
  They're getting turned against because of inexcusably stupid technical decisions. In Ubuntu's case, it was Unity and that advertising crap. In Debian's, it was systemd. In Firefox's, it was all of the dumb UI changes, while serious problems remained unfixed for years. In GNOME 3's case, it was pretty much everything about it.
  It wasn't about "obscurity" or anything dumb like that.
31. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:34 · Score: 0
  
  Workstation market != Desktop market
32. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Wookact · 2014-10-20 04:37 · Score: 0
  
  So what your saying is you have specialized hardware that you had issues with.
  
  I have had no issues tethering my GS4, my only streaming issues are sites that use silverlight, and plenty of steam games for fun.
  
  Oh and BTW it looks like your complains about the Fuji(tsu)? scanner and Wacom tablet are overblown. It looks like there is some support for both, although it is not handled by the manufacturers. Both manufacturers linked to these sites so I am assuming they should be at least partially functional.
  
  http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.... http://www.fujitsu.com/emea/pr...
  
  Note: I cannot even find a Fuji scanner, so I am guessing you dont even know what hardware you are using, which might explain your difficulty in installing the hardware.
33. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:44 · Score: 0
  
  Correction, I have always thought that Ubuntu sucked.
34. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 05:34 · Score: 0
  
  I've learned you can't unsee things. So no. No clicky for me.
35. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 05:35 · Score: 1
  
  There's Ubuntu Mate Remix (ubuntu-mate.org) now :)
36. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by armanox · 2014-10-20 05:45 · Score: 1
  
  VS my example, people using computers for, I don't know...what's the word....work?
  
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37. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by davester666 · 2014-10-20 05:59 · Score: 1
  
  It's just a Zune...
  
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38. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Bengie · 2014-10-20 06:03 · Score: 1
  
  "Mainstream" in this context is the average homeuser demographic, not the custom workstation demographic. Show me a popular desktop or laptop computer targeted to parents, grand parents, or gamers that have Linux installed by default.
39. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by phinnvr6 · 2014-10-20 06:24 · Score: 1
  
  This comment 100% hits the nail on the head. It's say that Android has become the best Linux "distro" now because of all this gnome3/unity garbage.
40. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by MMC+Monster · 2014-10-20 06:51 · Score: 1, Interesting
  
  Ubuntu 10.04 had a lot of problems, but that's because the software it was based on was not mature, and Ubuntu took to rolling their own UI rather than working with upstream. That being said, upstream Gnome was busy committing suicide, so it wasn't too bad for Ubuntu to look in another direction.
  A lot of users (including myself) jumped soon after to Linux Mint with Cinnamon UI and that's why it's the top at distrowatch now.
  Only time will tell if Linux Mint Cinnamon is going to self-destruct. I think the next step for them would be to partner with a hardware manufacturer such as System76.
  
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41. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by armanox · 2014-10-20 07:04 · Score: 2
  
  In which case I'd have to point to Chromebooks and Android devices.
  I'd like to make a nice long rant next against GNOME and Red Hat, but to keep it short GNOME shot everyone in the foot with GNOME 3.
  
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42. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by DiamondGeezer · 2014-10-20 07:29 · Score: 1
  
  Is it too late to mod this up as both insightful and a troll at the same time? That in asking 6 Linux users "What is the best distro" you'll get 7 answers?
  
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43. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 07:49 · Score: 0
  
  I disagree.
44. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by jones_supa · 2014-10-20 08:02 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Unity did not arrive until 11.04 and I would say that the mass movement to Mint did not happen before 12.04.
45. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by KozmoStevnNaut · 2014-10-20 09:39 · Score: 0
  
  I remember that episode, and I stand corrected. You can in fact polish a turd.
  Also, -1 troll? For making a stupid joke?
  
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46. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by johnsnails · 2014-10-20 12:00 · Score: 1
  
  Systemd you had one job... oh wait.
47. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by iggymanz · 2014-10-21 02:44 · Score: 1
  
  Mint has achieved some mainstream success, non-geeks use it and like it. I haven't abandoned it yet, so answer is "probably not if Clem and the team keep paying attention to user needs and wants", which is totally the opposite of Ubuntu philosophy
48. Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-21 04:48 · Score: 0
  
  Why not lubuntu? It is my fav without those Gnome goners and KDE koners crap.
49. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by fluffynuts · 2014-10-21 05:44 · Score: 1
  
  The problem was never that Ubuntu became popular. Geeks everywhere rejoiced!
  The problem was simply the Gnome3/Unity fallout which left a lot of users with no easily accessible default desktop. Each has interesting ideas and strengths but neither are the stalwart that Gnome2 was. Anyone who was already on the KDE track with Kubuntu wasn't bothered though... until Canonical dropped official support for Kubuntu.
  Personally, I still run Kubuntu. KDE plasma has evolved from a bloated pig into something pretty and acceptably fast. There are still quirks, but they're less than what I have to deal with on any other platform. Kubuntu is my "daily driver", as it were, with a dual-boot to win8 for games (those not found under Linux; a number which is diminishing) and when I really want to use Visual Studio (usually work reasons). I used Mint for a while, but learned the hard way that a distro which recommends a re-installation over an upgrade is a bad choice for a desktop which is expected to be alive no-matter-what.
50. Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish by strikethree · 2014-10-21 22:28 · Score: 1
  
  You are trolling.
  Discuss.
  
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before unbuntu by asv108 · 2014-10-20 02:20 · Score: 3, Interesting

I was running Gentoo on my desktop and laptop to get the latest performance optimizations since most distros at the time were optimized for older processors. Ubuntu was really the first distro that was optimized out of the box for performance desktops. I don't miss debugging compilation issues with "emerge world".
1. Re:before unbuntu by jones_supa · 2014-10-20 02:39 · Score: 1
  
  I hardly would call Unity "optimized". The animations are laggy as hell and it takes ages for Dash to pop up. And this comes from a guy who otherwise actually likes the user experience and graphics of Unity.
2. Re:before unbuntu by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:40 · Score: 1
  
  emerge world
  There's your problem. You should have been doing emerge -vDNu world --with-bdeps=y.
3. Re:before unbuntu by Gothmolly · 2014-10-20 02:58 · Score: -1
  
  Because everything you do is CPU bound?
  
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4. Re:before unbuntu by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:29 · Score: 0
  
  I think he means the compilation targetted i686 instead of i386.
5. Re:before unbuntu by Blaskowicz · 2014-10-20 03:49 · Score: 1
  
  Unity was super fast and smooth, for the two minutes I ran it under Ubuntu 11.04 before switching to Gnome 2. But I don't remember the dash (why would I want to search my programs instead of just running them?)
  The OpenGL performance or that for the main OS GUI is totally random, depending on drivers, on which you have very limited control. Many linux advocates solve that problem by yelling "You're not running a less than two-year-old Intel laptop so you must be an idiot" in slashdot comments.
6. Re:before unbuntu by jones_supa · 2014-10-20 03:57 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  I still don't understand why we would even need fast chips and premium OpenGL drivers just to run the desktop acceptably. Compositing some simple application bitmaps shouldn't require everything tuned up to the maximum. Windows is super smooth even on GMA950 and there's plenty of eye candy.
7. Re:before unbuntu by Blaskowicz · 2014-10-20 08:41 · Score: 1
  
  Windows Vista and higher is the about the equivalent of running Wayland on linux, which still is future technology as of now..
  Or so I visualize the problem, even if the comparison may be not entirely accurate.
  So imagine linux on Wayland, with GMA950 chipset and a "premium" driver i.e. efficient, low CPU use. That ought to be smooth. If you don't have those things then CPU power is wasted and bitmaps are copied uselessly. Even though there's only one physical RAM and it's on the FSB (front side bus) along with CPU and chipset.. the texture you've made must be transfered from "system memory" to "GPU memory" (resulting in ridiculous copying of data around) ; since you use some old low grade drivers (probably not much taken care of beside being patched for newer Xorg and kernel versions) the transfers probably suck more than usual, and that sucks since you're stressing your worst bottleneck (FSB or memory)
sharpie marks? Marketing needs a shakeup by ihtoit · 2014-10-20 02:21 · Score: 2

when I distributed my Knoppix-based desktop demo I had a licensed logo (Sitting Baby Tux by Nicolas Rougier) and 8cm printed discs. That thing was insanely popular, probably not least because SQUEEE! factor.
http://www.labri.fr/perso/nrou... -looks feckin' fantastic in a frame.

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1. Re:sharpie marks? Marketing needs a shakeup by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:57 · Score: 0
  
  I remember when Ubuntu Warty came out. At that time Knoppix was already amazing. I wonder what it would be like now if all the Ubuntu marketing had gone to Knoppix instead.
2. Re:sharpie marks? Marketing needs a shakeup by ihtoit · 2014-10-20 14:34 · Score: 2
  
  I'd've gone the Ubuntu route had I not already spent many hours whittling a DVD distro (Knoppix) to a miniDVD size (1.8GB from 4.1GB) simply by pruning application trees. You can have half a gig back with the simple expedient of chopping most of the word processing and graphics packages - OpenOffice and The GIMP does most of what most people could ever want in desktop publishing, and they take less than 200MB between them. I did leave all of the reference drivers in though, Knoppix isn't Knoppix without the amazing job Klaus did with cramming those in.
  
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Happy Birthday by davidwr · 2014-10-20 02:23 · Score: 4, Funny

I didn't realize it was only 11000 months old. I thought it was more like 1010 times that age.

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1. Re:Happy Birthday by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:56 · Score: 0
  
  Yes, the Ubuntu really brought the Linux to the "normal" users who don't have the computer tuning/fixing/updating as their hobby. The Ubuntu seemed to be able to provide a good competition to Windows, but then they decided that the desktop PC is not their focus anymore and started building the Unity for touchscreen devices. It is also really weird to see that suddenly even the simple configuration tasks such as adding a new user need to be done at command line again, as Unity does not have a GUI for it. Of course, fiddling with the windows button locations did not help getting positive user feedback either. Fortunately the Linux Mint continues the same spirit as Ubuntu did; Linux for the desktop users who have used computers before and can handle the system configuration options.
2. Re:Happy Birthday by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:24 · Score: 0, Informative
  
  No, it isn't "cool", it's "justified". Canonical ignored its userbase, decided to try and be Microsoft and make Ubuntu the Windows 8 of the Linux world, failed miserably, and now the distro is nearly irrelevant.
  Sure, some people still use it here and there, but the fact is, Canonical had a real chance to usher in the year of the desktop for Linux, and they screwed it up.
3. Re:Happy Birthday by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:41 · Score: -1
  
  Ubuntu has been a piece of shit. Its a divisive asshole distro. We have Slash, Redhat, Debian, Gentoo. Plenty. This fucking prick loser asshole Mark fuckleworth Shuttleworth, a rich bitch whose real qualifications are now that rich faggot that has been in space, wants to feel like he has a dick because his boyfriend the supreme asshole faggot, the shit-sound-system asshole Lennart Poettering complained when mark fucks his ass he can't feel anything.
  So Mark ShuttleWorth ShuttleBitch pussy needs to find a big dick, so he launches FuckBuntu, or Ubuntu. Anyways, its simply meant to fuck with and shit on things that Redhat and the community are already doing correctly.
  Ubuntu makes sure to fuck with shit that works, provide horrible support, inject far more bugs than they fix and generally come up with shit after redhat does it, only shittier with less support.
  FUCK YOU ASSHOLE WHO WORK AT CANONICAL AND WHO INJECT UBUNTU ANYWHERE. You suck. Your OS sucks. You cause developers to get fucking lazy and constantly "need" the latest shit. Ubuntu is the bane of sysadmins everywhere. You are stupid fat lazy shitheads that use apt-get install on an hourly basis to suck the entire fucking internet into your shit system for your shit code to make sure your gay shit code relies on Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, Python. Your gay shit code has to install Puppet and/or Chef. Your gay shit Juju charms and your gay shit landscape sucks.
  Jane Silber, the current cunt CEO bitch, is a whore who "lead" some sort of a TV station or marketing shit before coming to canonical.
  Anyways, a big fat FUCK YOU to Lennart Poeterring, a big fat FUCK YOU to everyone at Canonical.
  Your stupid lame shit has caused android to become one of the strongest Linux distros ever. You did this by sticking your shit-smeared penis up RedHat's ass causing fragmentation where needed. This has allowed other large and competent from the engineering standpoint companies come in and hijack Linux for themselves.
  Mir is shit. Launchpad is shit. Upstart is shit. Your dependency issues are shit. apt-get update fails all the time with corrupted cache files you cant ever fix this bug? Your near monthly release of LTS releases sucks shit because its unrealistic to support LTS more than 2 versions old especially for Canonical. Your love of Lennart Poettering shit is shit. Your apt from Shitnonical need like 50 helper apps and can still barely do the shit yum/rpm can do (2 commands versus a gaggle of half-assed shit). Your Unity sucks shit. Your INABILITY to pick the STABLE linux and stick with it. You Ubuntu canonical fucking assholes constantly pick undead shit kernels and keep them alive and ignore the STABLE kernel series.
  Fuck you canonical. Fuck you self proclaimed dev-ops shitheads who don't automate but to create massive horrible dependencies and your gay shit tools that infest and infect OSes being deployed with shittily generated ssl keys with trivial issues such as name/ip mismatches, plugins , toolchains.
  Fuck you for making the next wave of developers suck the entire internet down into everything just to have a Hello World.
  Ubuntu , you are a cunt, a fucker, a curse and a cancer. Fuck you.
  tsarkon reports
  FU
4. Re:Happy Birthday by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:44 · Score: 0
  
  I'm pretty sure they suceeded in being the Windows 8 of the Linux world.
5. Re:Happy Birthday by MMC+Monster · 2014-10-20 06:46 · Score: 2
  
  Ubuntu 5.04 was my first exposure to Linux. I chose it because even in those early days of the distribution, Ubuntu was known for fixing the dependency issues in the repositories. That was their claim to fame.
  I moved on a couple years ago (to Linux Mint, of course), but the Ubuntu base is great, since I know I can get just about any linux app packaged for it.
  Happy Birthday!
  
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6. Re:Happy Birthday by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 11:09 · Score: 0
  
  Haha, look, binary! How Funny. I laugh.
7. Re:Happy Birthday by Trogre · 2014-10-20 11:09 · Score: 1
  
  I don't know. Can you configure it out of the box to talk to an LDAP server yet, or does it still assume that everyone is outside a managed network?
  
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8. Re:Happy Birthday by BlackPignouf · 2014-10-20 23:42 · Score: 1
  
  Didn't you mean "101 times that age"?
9. Re:Happy Birthday by Joey+Vegetables · 2014-10-21 01:32 · Score: 1
  
  Don't hold back dude. Tell us how you really feel.
  
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Not interested. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:23 · Score: 0, Funny

I think I'll stick with my Casio.
It's got a 8 year battery life, and synchronizes time via WWVB...
Why would you need anything more?
1. Re:Not interested. by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:29 · Score: 1
  
  Whopse, this was meant to go on the Microsoft watch page...
  Casio can't save me from this...
  Epic Fail!
Happy Birthday by zoward · 2014-10-20 02:38 · Score: 5, Insightful

Between Unity and Mir, it's considered cool to Bash Ubuntu these days, but even their most stalwart detractors have to admit they raised the bar for desktop Linux from the first day of their release. There's a reason it's become both a popular distro and a popular base for derivatives.
Thank you, Ubuntu, and Happy Birthday.

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The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:38 · Score: 5, Interesting

Yep, everybody hates Ubuntu these days, the only linux distro that had a chance gets hated into oblivion. Open source is anti success. They did everything to stop them from ever getting market share.
1. Re:The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:45 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  If Ubuntu had focused on making a good distro and left the political correctness stuff out it might've gotten less hate.
2. Re:The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:19 · Score: 0
  
  No, if Ubuntu hadn't foisted that Unity crap on all their users, it would get less hate.
3. Re:The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:22 · Score: 0
  
  What's a good distro? One that takes 10 hours to set up to "barely work"?
  Or one that allows you to virtually nothing with any sort of media or any sort of a game because the codecs and drivers are all "ebil closed source"?
  Or one that doesn't support any hardware except a 2 button mouse and basic keyboard?
  Or one that breaks on updates?
  Or one that doesn't run a gui at all?
  Face it the above is what you want. And that's why you hate ubuntu - because it has mitigated (pretty badly to be fair) at least some of the above.
  Captcha: Imbecile
4. Re:The OS that wasn't by Trogre · 2014-10-20 11:33 · Score: 1
  
  You've never heard of Fedora have you?
  
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5. Re:The OS that wasn't by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-21 06:03 · Score: 0
  
  I honestly don't think any successful distro will ever be accepted for a prolonged period of time among the Linux community. People these days lack humility. Humility is a prerequisite for co-operation. Everyone thinks they know best. Among the linux anti-community there are too many cooks not enough bottle washers.
debian to be forked by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:40 · Score: 3, Interesting

http://debianfork.org/
1. Re:debian to be forked by Rob+Riggs · 2014-10-20 03:30 · Score: 1
  
  We definitely need a place for these dinosaurs to roam freely. It is really the perfect solution. They will build their own zoo. We can keep an eye on them from a distance.
  
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2. Re:debian to be forked by juanfgs · 2014-10-20 06:37 · Score: 0
  
  From that site
  
  To paraphrase Eric S. Raymond on the issue, we see systemd being very prone to mission creep and bloat and likely to turn into a nasty hairball over the longer term.
  
  This is not a beard contest, rest assured the furry ones among us are not sheeps.
  
  Then there is the "systemd fork" called uselessd with some good points and lots of lulz.
  I'm starting to think that all these guys are just a bunch of teenagers with nothing else to do.
Gnome3 FTW! by operator_error · 2014-10-20 02:41 · Score: 2

Agreed. Gnome3 user here; and I like it! Me no likes Unity; although I can start to see how I might use it, due to recent evolutions.
Also FWIW, every single non-techie, former Windows XP refugee I've turned onto Ubuntu Gnome3 likes Gnome3/Ubuntu also. They tell me they can't believe they used to live that way.
Ubunto Turns 10 by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:45 · Score: 0

Whoopie shit!
Ubuntu is the distro by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 02:51 · Score: 0

That intentionally gets worse with age. It sucks.
10 years already? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:03 · Score: 0

The seldom told story is how a little over ten years ago, a few people within Debian got contacted about this new "user friendly distribution", and they got tasked with plucking talent out of Debian. In theory this would not have been a problem, as the new distribution was going to be a downstream for Debian, and they would contribute all the enhancements back to it, so the people working on it could in theory work on the enhancements in Debian, and then add some branding and different default in the new distribution. This turned out to be very far away from the reality. Someone talked about this to the "wrong" person and quickly everyone who cared within Debian was aware of what was going on. This made people sour, and a debate about the direction of the distribution ensued. People questioned why this had to be done in secrecy, contrary to Debian's values. People questioned the motivations behind a move like this. The people who got to work on the new distribution quickly discovered that being a collaborative downstream is very hard work, and that they had to choose between doing what they had set out to do, or building a trusting and collaborative relationship with Debian. Everyone knows what they chose. The fracture lasted many years, with people occasionally complaining on Debian mailing lists about why Ubuntu wasn't contributing back to Debian. Some were quick to chalk it up to Debian's lack of will to collaborate; some said the same about Ubuntu. Ubuntu offered a token in the form of "here are a ton of patches, you sort them out", to which Debian's reply was an expected "up yours". Many years later, after many talented, but maybe still resentful, people moved on, some space for collaboration opened. Today it's still far far far away from optimal, but the relationship is better. Every now and then an echo of that struggle can be seen, mostly in the form of "if Ubuntu is doing it, that doesn't mean we should do it as well".
Today Debian and Ubuntu are still pretty much like father and son, with the father trying to tell the son from experience what works and what doesn't, and the son rebelling and telling the father that times have changed and he knows best. I don't think Ubuntu was the best thing that happened to Linux, nor the worst, but it might have been one of the worst things that happened to Debian.
1. Re:10 years already? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:14 · Score: -1
  
  I want to concur, I was "stolen" from Debian by Mark Shuttlecock, he bent me over and had his way with me until mt anus gaped in a way that made goatse jealous, and when I awoke, I found a couple CDs on the dresser drawer, no tip or compensation.
  This is all well documented in This Ain't Ubuntu XXX - Gay Gampire edition.
2. Re: 10 years already? by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 22:30 · Score: 0
  
  If Debian devs had fixed the problems of running a desktop on their distribution then there would have been no need for Ubuntu in the first place. The Debian model is terminally broken for the majority of desktop deployments. Stable has old apps and does not get hardware enablement so it does not support new hardware. Unstable/Testing is basically unsupported from an end user POV and breaks every so often, and is ignored by the Debian security team. For years the installer was rubbish and it still does not include drivers that are necessary to install on modern laptops.
  There are good reasons desktop users chose Ubuntu, Mint etc instead of Debian.
Xubuntu by tepples · 2014-10-20 03:08 · Score: 3, Interesting

Then the gnome3/unity crap started
I used GNOME 2 during 11.04 when this Unity crap started getting included. Once GNOME 2 became "fallback" in 11.10, I put up with Unity for a month, but after that I did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop and never looked back. The only drawback is that I can't think of what the f in Xfce is supposed to stand for after the decade-old migration from XForms to GTK+.
Ubuntu changed everything by emblemparade · 2014-10-20 03:27 · Score: 4, Insightful

Ubuntu changed everything we've come to expect about free, general-purpose operating systems.
People don't give Launchpad enough credit: for the first time, we have an integrated build/test/deploy process for the whole operating system. It takes the solid Debian root and adds a layer of modern quality assurance that we've never seen before. There's still a ways to go, and I'm sure people will complain about one or other package being broken, but the fact is that Ubuntu raised the bar of what we've come to expect.
Slashdotters and others also love to complain about one particular package or another. Obviously, the desktop environment (or just the shell) is the first thing that most people see. But it's also a small project in the larger scope of Ubuntu. Don't like Unity or GNOME 3 or KDE or Xfce or LXDE or Enlightenment? You have lots of options. Don't like systemd? Well, Ubuntu devoted a lot of time and effort to Upstart, but made the mature decision to abide by Debian's decision to go with systemd (for now). Don't like either? Yeah, well, life these days must be truly hell for poor little you.
And now, Ubuntu may do for mobile what it did for the desktop. In 10 years, I hope we can celebrate the existence of truly free devices, onto which we can install any package we want -- including alternative UIs for those who will undoubtedly not like Unity.
1. Re:Ubuntu changed everything by neorush · 2014-10-20 03:59 · Score: 2
  
  Hear hear! We switched from Debian to Ubuntu years ago on all production servers...there are some real polishes that make managing the servers that much easier. Yes, it can be done with Debian, but its already done on Ubuntu...
  
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2. Re:Ubuntu changed everything by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:06 · Score: 0
  
  . Don't like Unity or GNOME 3 or KDE or Xfce or LXDE or Enlightenment? You have lots of options.
  AB-SO-LU-TE-LY.
  I, for instance, cannot run Unity at work because I *only* work on Virtual Machines (some on old 32-bit hardware). Xubuntu runs like a champ there, fast and slick.
3. Re:Ubuntu changed everything by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:28 · Score: 0
  
  and the multi-times per day crashing I have 14.04 LTS. Ubuntu is dead. systemd killed it.
4. Re:Ubuntu changed everything by jellomizer · 2014-10-20 04:34 · Score: 1
  
  Ubuntu is one of the most successful attempt at a Linux (GNU/Linux not something like Android/Chrome OS which just used the Linux Kernel) based.
  Ubuntu was one of the few distro's to take advantage Desktop OS gap.
  Windows XP from 2003 had a Lot of serious Security Issues, Apple Mac's were picking up steam, but Apple isn't for everyone. Most of the other Linux distributions were like We have GNOME/KDE installed so we are Desktop ready. However Ubuntu actually put in effort during that time to make a decent Desktop OS.
  This Ubuntu rise came along with the rise of Firefox. Where Windows XP had so many problems, and people wanted something new.
  Then Windows Longhorn took way too long to be release with Vista and it failed to impress giving more years to add converts.
  Now Ubuntu failures were that they and there fans, had too much of an ego. Reported problems lead to blame the user, attitude. Funny compatibility issues, where a feature will work OK in one version then after the upgrade it will not work at all. Also they sometimes like to overhaul the whole UI.
  Apple came out the Windows Gap period, as the fan favorite. Ubuntu could have gotten a bit more love if they just humbled themselves down a bit. And avoided those Scary THIS ISN'T GPL errors. As most Linux users really don't care about the GNU ideals, they just want something that works.
  
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Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by BrendaEM · 2014-10-20 03:27 · Score: 3, Interesting

People are choosing other distributions for a reason, actually two.
Get rid of Unity and stop collecting search information, or fade into obscurity.

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1. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:39 · Score: 1
  
  or fade into obscurity.
  It's a Linux distro. How much more obscure could it get?
2. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:07 · Score: 0
  
  How much more obscure could it get?
  Hey, it could be Slackware.
  In nearly two decades, I've yet to see anyone running Slackware.
  Oh, sure, there are people who will post on the Internet about running it, but that only convinces me it's just a long-running Internet gag.
3. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 05:55 · Score: 0
  
  I ran it the only time I had a Linux machine. And I had to edit the X config by hand because my monitor wasn't one that there was a profile for.
4. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by DiamondGeezer · 2014-10-20 07:38 · Score: 2
  
  Luxury. I had to use a magnetized needle and a steady hand.
  
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5. Re:Companies Fail To Admit Thier Mistakes by Anne+Thwacks · 2014-10-20 07:43 · Score: 1
  
  Can I say Yyggdrasil?
  Assuming I could pronounce it.
  It used to work quite well for me, till I discovered where to buy a *BSD CD.
  Unity killed Ubuntu. I am busy Migrating the family from Ubuntu to Mint.
  
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Gentoo is garbage by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:30 · Score: 0

I left Gentoo a few years ago after decapitating my machine with an emerge world and a lethal python 'upgrade'. I had a modest Intel Core 2 machine and it was talking 8 hours to build chrome and open office. The switch from openrc to systemd was the last straw. Gentoo is garbage.
Re:before unbuntu tsarkon reports by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:37 · Score: -1

Ubuntu has been a piece of shit. Its a divisive asshole distro. We have Slash, Redhat, Debian, Gentoo. Plenty. This fucking prick loser asshole Mark fuckleworth Shuttleworth, a rich bitch whose real qualifications are now that rich faggot that has been in space, wants to feel like he has a dick because his boyfriend the supreme asshole faggot, the shit-sound-system asshole Lennart Poettering complained when mark fucks his ass he can't feel anything.
So Mark ShuttleWorth ShuttleBitch pussy needs to find a big dick, so he launches FuckBuntu, or Ubuntu. Anyways, its simply meant to fuck with and shit on things that Redhat and the community are already doing correctly.
Ubuntu makes sure to fuck with shit that works, provide horrible support, inject far more bugs than they fix and generally come up with shit after redhat does it, only shittier with less support.
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE WHO WORK AT CANONICAL AND WHO INJECT UBUNTU ANYWHERE. You suck. Your OS sucks. You cause developers to get fucking lazy and constantly "need" the latest shit. Ubuntu is the bane of sysadmins everywhere. You are stupid fat lazy shitheads that use apt-get install on an hourly basis to suck the entire fucking internet into your shit system for your shit code to make sure your gay shit code relies on Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, Python. Your gay shit code has to install Puppet and/or Chef. Your gay shit Juju charms and your gay shit landscape sucks.
Jane Silber, the current cunt CEO bitch, is a whore who "lead" some sort of a TV station or marketing shit before coming to canonical.
Anyways, a big fat FUCK YOU to Lennart Poeterring, a big fat FUCK YOU to everyone at Canonical.
Your stupid lame shit has caused android to become one of the strongest Linux distros ever. You did this by sticking your shit-smeared penis up RedHat's ass causing fragmentation where needed. This has allowed other large and competent from the engineering standpoint companies come in and hijack Linux for themselves.
Mir is shit. Launchpad is shit. Upstart is shit. Your dependency issues are shit. apt-get update fails all the time with corrupted cache files you cant ever fix this bug? Your near monthly release of LTS releases sucks shit because its unrealistic to support LTS more than 2 versions old especially for Canonical. Your love of Lennart Poettering shit is shit. Your apt from Shitnonical need like 50 helper apps and can still barely do the shit yum/rpm can do (2 commands versus a gaggle of half-assed shit). Your Unity sucks shit. Your INABILITY to pick the STABLE linux and stick with it. You Ubuntu canonical fucking assholes constantly pick undead shit kernels and keep them alive and ignore the STABLE kernel series.
Fuck you canonical. Fuck you self proclaimed dev-ops shitheads who don't automate but to create massive horrible dependencies and your gay shit tools that infest and infect OSes being deployed with shittily generated ssl keys with trivial issues such as name/ip mismatches, plugins , toolchains.
Fuck you for making the next wave of developers suck the entire internet down into everything just to have a Hello World.
Ubuntu , you are a cunt, a fucker, a curse and a cancer. Fuck you.
tsarkon reports
Re:Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 03:45 · Score: -1

Ubuntu is the MAIN way Linux is being Poetterized.
P:oettering and his fucking shit is the source of ALL Linux suckyness today. Fuck Lennart, that panty waisted light in the loafers choad licking cumbag.
Ubuntu has been a piece of shit. Its a divisive asshole distro. We have Slack, Redhat, Debian, Gentoo. Plenty. This fucking prick loser asshole Mark fuckleworth Shuttleworth, a rich bitch whose real qualifications are now that rich faggot that has been in space, wants to feel like he has a dick because his boyfriend the supreme asshole faggot, the shit-sound-system asshole Lennart Poettering complained when mark fucks his ass he can't feel anything.
So Mark ShuttleWorth ShuttleBitch pussy needs to find a big dick, so he launches FuckBuntu, or Ubuntu. Anyways, its simply meant to fuck with and shit on things that Redhat and the community are already doing correctly.
Ubuntu makes sure to fuck with shit that works, provide horrible support, inject far more bugs than they fix and generally come up with shit after redhat does it, only shittier with less support.
FUCK YOU ASSHOLE WHO WORK AT CANONICAL AND WHO INJECT UBUNTU ANYWHERE. You suck. Your OS sucks. You cause developers to get fucking lazy and constantly "need" the latest shit. Ubuntu is the bane of sysadmins everywhere. You are stupid fat lazy shitheads that use apt-get install on an hourly basis to suck the entire fucking internet into your shit system for your shit code to make sure your gay shit code relies on Java, Perl, Go, Ruby, Python. Your gay shit code has to install Puppet and/or Chef. Your gay shit Juju charms and your gay shit landscape sucks.
Jane Silber, the current cunt CEO bitch, is a whore who "lead" some sort of a TV station or marketing shit before coming to canonical.
Anyways, a big fat FUCK YOU to Lennart Poeterring, a big fat FUCK YOU to everyone at Canonical.
Your stupid lame shit has caused android to become one of the strongest Linux distros ever. You did this by sticking your shit-smeared penis up RedHat's ass causing fragmentation where needed. This has allowed other large and competent from the engineering standpoint companies come in and hijack Linux for themselves.
Mir is shit. Launchpad is shit. Upstart is shit. Your dependency issues are shit. apt-get update fails all the time with corrupted cache files you cant ever fix this bug? Your near monthly release of LTS releases sucks shit because its unrealistic to support LTS more than 2 versions old especially for Canonical. Your love of Lennart Poettering shit is shit. Your apt from Shitnonical need like 50 helper apps and can still barely do the shit yum/rpm can do (2 commands versus a gaggle of half-assed shit). Your Unity sucks shit. Your INABILITY to pick the STABLE linux and stick with it. You Ubuntu canonical fucking assholes constantly pick undead shit kernels and keep them alive and ignore the STABLE kernel series.
Fuck you canonical. Fuck you self proclaimed dev-ops shitheads who don't automate but to create massive horrible dependencies and your gay shit tools that infest and infect OSes being deployed with shittily generated ssl keys with trivial issues such as name/ip mismatches, plugins , toolchains.
Fuck you for making the next wave of developers suck the entire internet down into everything just to have a Hello World.
Ubuntu , you are a cunt, a fucker, a curse and a cancer. Fuck you.
tsarkon reports
Re: Unity is rubbish. Systemd is rubbish tsarkon by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 04:13 · Score: 0

U mad bro?
systemd myths debunked! by pigsycyberbully · 2014-10-20 05:37 · Score: 0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
hum by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-20 09:01 · Score: 0

What's missing in linux for me?
1. Audio not as good as Windows Alsa and PulseAudio clogs my ears and pop here and there but less noticeable in Ubuntu.
2. Productive suits and applications.
3. Gaming, but non of that old shit(left for dead) and indie games running in steam or wine.
4. Development tools equivalent to MS VS, eclipse too confusing to configure and netbeans a bloated looking mess.
5. Changing DE themes is easier on Windows than some Linux DE's, gnome 3 hassle, kde easy but too many parts not as a whole.
6. Make installation as easy as Windows .exe and .msi with all dependencies included. Won't run out of space, 500gb.
7. Better mouse scrolling, not as good and smooth as with Windows.
8. Full blown and rich feature drivers, but this is the fault of companies not supporting Linux not sure because of gpl or maybe they can't keep up with the daily changes of the linux kernel or userspace.
9. Many distros have failed and gone under so not 100% sure how long a distro will last even with Canonical's Ubuntu. It's all about packaging and If Linux came with something like .exe or .msi by default we wouldn't have so many damn distros to begin with, people would be using slackware or debian because of the double click installation all dependencies solved. All software packaging and dependencies would be handled by the software distributor not the OS maintainer. If gimp, blender, inkspace.exe & .msi for windows can be done why not for linux?
What's great about linux?
1. It's free, no activation required like with Windows nightmare activation which sometimes requires a phone call to MS Center.
2. Live CD/DVD.
3. Many File Systems to choose from.
4. Separate /home partition from the root. You can move your profile in Windows but there are severe side effects.
5. Linux comes secure out of the box, unlike Windows which automatically sets the user as administrator(dangerous) I have to manually add Standard User and to make even more rock solid have to modify the group policy.
6. Many DE's to choose from.
7. DE's like KDE out of the box are more customizable than windows(need third party application to make deeper theme changes).
8. I actually find Linux communities and documentations a lot more helpful than any windows(not a lot). Windows error messages too damn cryptic and waste too many hours.
Less tinkering, more using by Chewbacon · 2014-10-20 13:54 · Score: 2

I have less and less time to tinker with linux to make it work. Started using KDE, but kept running into issues where it refused to let me login - just get a blank desktop. Went to Xubuntu, but half the time I suspended my laptop it would refuse to wake completely unless I restarted lightdm, which restarted my session. What a productivity killer. I recently went back to Ubuntu and Unity and haven't had such problems. I gotta give Ubuntu credit, they make it a nice and easy experience, which Joe Schmoe who just wants to check his email likes.

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systemd myths debunked! by Anonymous Coward · 2014-10-21 04:56 · Score: 0

Yes. We now know how bad is it? Where are people still using it?