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Rumor: Lenovo In Talks To Buy BlackBerry

BarbaraHudson writes: The CBC, the Financial Post, and The Toronto Sun are all reporting a possible sale of BlackBerry to Lenovo. From the Sun: "BlackBerry shares rose more than 3% on Monday after a news website said Chinese computer maker Lenovo Group might offer to buy the Canadian technology company. Rumors of a Lenovo bid for BlackBerry have swirled many times over the last two years. Senior Lenovo executives at different times have indicated an interest in BlackBerry as a means to strengthen their own handset business. The speculation reached a crescendo in the fall of 2013, when BlackBerry was exploring strategic alternatives. Sources familiar with the situation however, told Reuters last year that the Canadian government had strongly hinted to BlackBerry that any sale to Lenovo would not win the necessary regulatory approvals due to security concerns. Analysts also have said any sale to Lenovo would face regulatory obstacles, but they have suggested that a sale of just BlackBerry's handset business and not its core network infrastructure might just pass muster with regulators."

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  1. Different reactions by manu0601 · · Score: 2

    Regulators looks at purcahse from a chineese company as suspect for security reasons, but when espionage is done by the US, there is no problem.

    1. Re:Different reactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So it's ok for Chinese companies to buy up controlling stakes in every last Canadian natural resource company, but not BlackBerry. Interesting priorities.

    2. Re:Different reactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Related news today China Staging a Nationwide Attack On iCloud and Microsoft Accounts
      http://apple.slashdot.org/story/14/10/20/2221223/china-staging-a-nationwide-attack-on-icloud-and-microsoft-accounts
      China is doing it at a different level.

    3. Re:Different reactions by umdesch4 · · Score: 2

      Yeah, I wonder about this. It's extremely hard to come up with numbers. You typically end up with specific cases hitting the news in chunks, like this: http://www.theglobeandmail.com...

      Then there's my own anecdotal evidence from copper mining, where my friend left his management position at one Canadian mining company shortly after a Chinese company acquired 51%, only to have another Chinese company buy a 40% stake in the next company he ended up at. Now he's waiting for the other shoe to drop, when the additional 11% acquisition quietly happens with no press. I've heard the same stories in every natural resource sector I know people in, but I just spent an hour googling this, and I can't find any top line number for just how much of Canada is actually owned by China. I suspect it's truly shocking.

    4. Re: Different reactions by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I assume the difference is that if it becomes an issue of national security, the government can take the natural resources back.

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    5. Re: Different reactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How?

    6. Re:Different reactions by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

      > Chinese company acquired 51%, only to have another Chinese company buy a 40% stake in the next company he ended up at.

      This is a problem why?

      If you don't like it, stop sending them all your money.

    7. Re: Different reactions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How?

      The Government can simply say that the company in question doesn't own it anymore.

      There's a term for it: Eminent domain, expropriation.

  2. Red mouse nub by jfdavis668 · · Score: 5, Funny

    They will add the little red mouse pointer nub to the middle of the blackberry keyboard. Progress at last!

    1. Re:Red mouse nub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lenovo is a cancer, and I type this from a ThinkPad, so I've seen what they do to ruin a product.

      When you think of a Lenovo acquisition of ANYTHING, nobody in the world thinks: "Great! Now quality and service is only to get better!" Everybody knows what Lenovo stands for.  Everybody knows that they exist only to exploit once household brand-names in a perpetual race to the bottom.

      Products like the BlackBerry Passport (number 2 selling unlocked phone on Amazon right now) do not happen under Lenovo. If you think things looked dire for BlackBerry a year ago, wait until you see how quickly corporate and governments drop BlackBerry with a Lenovo acquisition.

    2. Re:Red mouse nub by mattventura · · Score: 1

      No, they'll probably just find a way to ruin blackberries too.

      I mean, all they had to do to get guaranteed business was just keep thinkpads the same. Instead, we get chiclet keyboards and trackpoint buttons integrated in the touchpad for whatever reason. I like the build quality (my current one has been spilled on and burnt), but I'll probably just have to buy some dell or whatever with a trackpoint.

      I can live with the post-IBM drop in quality, but nowadays they've removed almost everything that makes a thinkpad a thinkpad.

    3. Re:Red mouse nub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Why not blame IBM for shedding their divisions? If megacorps are eager to kill their business foundations, don't blame Lenovo for scooping it up on the cheap to make good money.

    4. Re:Red mouse nub by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Products like the BlackBerry Passport (number 2 selling unlocked phone on Amazon right now)

      lol, wut?

      That's ranked 10. It's not binary.

    5. Re:Red mouse nub by 0xdeaddead · · Score: 1

      heh it's already #13, and falling.

    6. Re:Red mouse nub by rioki · · Score: 1

      #14 ...

    7. Re:Red mouse nub by Maury+Markowitz · · Score: 1

      > Products like the BlackBerry Passport (number 2 selling unlocked phone on Amazon right now)

      Wow, there's an example of faint praise.

  3. In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No financial companies will keep the service if a chinese company buys it (who else uses it now?) Lenovo will be essentially buying their intellectual property.

    1. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by MightyMartian · · Score: 0

      Blackberry is dead anyways. One way or the other it's going to be cannablised. Move to a platform with a future.

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    2. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by supremebob · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Considering that Lenovo owns Motorola Mobility now, they could probably use those patents in their upcoming litigation battles with Apple.

    3. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will RIM's BIS servers be moved from Canada to China? The fact that Blackberries don't rely on SSL and their security is ironclad is their best seller.

      With China owning them, and the fact that they are quite interested in what's on people's cloud accounts, this would be major strategic victory for the PLA.

      Hopefully Canada won't allow this. Canada tends to be a very wise country when it comes to their national security, and I hope they don't just give it away.

    4. Re: In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blackberry first, then Enron.

    5. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Canada tends to be a very wise country when it comes to their national security

      I would argue the opposite. Canada tends to be the lapdog of the U.S. government (like many European countries and Australia).

    6. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by Lord+Lemur · · Score: 1

      Correct, very wise for a country rich in resources with a population smaller then California, and a huge boarder with most advanced military in the world who loves to go to war.

    7. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I heard that the sale of Blackberry would be for mobile devices only... That the ironclad networks and security so praised by corporations, military, banks, and government would not be sold with the company... Canada would block the sale of those "software" assets (declaring them national security interests) whilst giving up the hardware and/or manufacturing of hardware...

      Possibly a break-up of Blackberry into two separate entities...

      Any thoughts?

    8. Re:In other words, the service is going to die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Invading Canada didn't work out so well for the US last time...

  4. Perhaps they are confused by LessThanObvious · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Blackberry lives on only in the market of security conscious business and government. Once sold to the Chinese, no one will buy. It's fun when there are no trustworthy options for the mass market (Blackphone excluded). I wonder what phone Obama will get if they take over Blackberry.

    1. Re:Perhaps they are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Blackberry lives on only in the market of security conscious business and government. Once sold to the Chinese, no one will buy. It's fun when there are no trustworthy options for the mass market (Blackphone excluded). I wonder what phone Obama will get if they take over Blackberry.

      Devil's Advocate: Poor people in the UK, plus the Indian market, (plus a good portion of the Chinese market) may be a market of people who have no secrets to hide from the PLA, but who don't want a device pre-compromised by NSA/GCHQ.

      There is effectively no hardware platform that doesn't have backdoors. The question every consumer on the planet must ask is which government's backdoors are you willing to accept, in exchange for a decreased probability of backdoors from some other government.

      Full disclosure: I run a Lenovo laptop. Although China's government is more abusive of its citizens than that of the United States, I spend most of my time in Five Eyes jurisdiction, not in PLA jurisdiction. I haven't done anything to piss either government off, but I'd rather go with the system that's been backdoored by the goons half a world away than the goons who could, with the stroke of a pen, become MPAA/RIAA's copyright enforcers.

    2. Re:Perhaps they are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yet I see lots of businesses moving from HP/Dell to Lenovo for their notebooks and workstations. I think adding a brand like Blackberry, so loved in business, is a great add to their portfolio. They'll be able to deliver the entire package, phone, notebook, mgmt servers, ... without being dependent on specific platforms.

    3. Re:Perhaps they are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's why the Canadian Government already said this is not happening.

      John Chen is going to China this month though. He hopes to make Blackberry available for sale there. So, he has a briefcase full of money to bribe politicians.

      Or he will partner with Lenovo. A phone will be produced and sold in China in partnership with Lenovo. I think it is interesting because Lenovo will griease the politician palms while providing Chen plausible denial.

    4. Re:Perhaps they are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Blackberry is pretty big in China. They may want it for their own domestic market.

    5. Re:Perhaps they are confused by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      I agree there are markets were Blackberry can stay relevant especially if they breath some now life into the devices. When I say "no one will buy" I mean the western businesses and governments that have a tangible reason to protect data. I use Lenovo laptops once I clear out the factory bloatware that I don't trust. The last time I failed to do so it got owned and the Lenovo bloatware was specifically involved.

    6. Re:Perhaps they are confused by jp10558 · · Score: 1

      This is because Lenovo tends to be price competitive and less failure prone (at least in my experience with the business lines). Also, their tech support believes your troubleshooting rather than asking if you've tried turning it on and off.

      That said, their on-site service is apparently woefully understaffed, and it is most definitely NOT NBD no mater what they claim. More like next business week. Then again, I only need that in the exceedingly rare case I need a desktop's motherboard replaced.

      We just keep spares anyway because buying one extra of each model we use is a cheap insurance for this issue.

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  5. Protecting What? by BoRegardless · · Score: 1

    Over 100 car companies disappeared by WWII.

    Now in 2014 a half dozen former "cell phone" makers have sort of slipped out of sight; Palm, BB, Moto, Win, Nokia, Dell & HP something.

    The world contracts to a few super usable designs but instead of taking 50 years for cars, now it took only about 5 years with "the smartphone."

    Is this the scenario for the future; Be right, Be first, Be best or else?

    1. Re:Protecting What? by jonnythan · · Score: 0

      Don't look now, but Moto just released one of the best Android phones ever, is about to release the Droid Turbo, and is the manufacturer of the Nexus 6.

    2. Re:Protecting What? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      I think the lesson with BlackBerry isn't one of older companies vanishing from sight, but one of constant innovation being required to stay in the market. BlackBerry took a leading cell phone position (before the term "smartphone" was common) and was the top of the line. Then devices like the iPhone came out and BlackBerry scoffed at them. They were on the top of the heap, why should they react to something from Apple? Apple made computers, not phones! But customers liked the new features* and flocked to the new devices, leaving BlackBerry with a tiny market share. By the time BlackBerry decided they needed to try to compete, it was too late. Now they're regulated to a niche and don't have a path back to the mainstream**.

      * I say this as an Android phone user who personally can't see ever getting an iPhone.
      ** Being a niche product isn't bad, per se, but it means being an overall smaller company and not being seen as one of the major players in the industry at large. BlackBerry would like to be back at the top of the heap like it was in its heyday, but the chances of this happening are slim to none.

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    3. Re:Protecting What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The nail in the coffin was that the technology for pulling e-mails etc. matured, and push technology was no longer needed.

    4. Re:Protecting What? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Moto has been bought by Lenovo too, the deal will be closed in early 2015.

  6. Lenovo phones by Charliemopps · · Score: 1

    Not sure how many people here have used Lenovo phones, because I dont think any US carriers have them... But I had one on a BYOP deal for a while and it was a great phone. There seem to be very limitted choices for more rugged phones and the Lenovo I had was pretty much water proof, shock proof, and I got it for $200.

    Back when I had a blackberry it was similarly rugged, though not waterproof. I could see this being a good thing. I could see a market for a Blackberry shaped android phone, that was tough and maybe came with some phone management enterprise software. Most of the enterprise software I've used from Android has been terrible.

  7. This feels like an attempt to buy the brand. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see any other reason they would want them. Didn't Blackberry already shed all their manufacturing capacity (and this is a Chinese company we're talking about, that would be like trying to sell bread to a baker).

    1. Re:This feels like an attempt to buy the brand. by ControlsGeek · · Score: 1

      It is an attempt to buy the brand. Blackberry still manufactures the flagship product but low end Z3 is contract manufactured in China by Foxconn. (same as apple)

  8. Re:Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    The best part is that if your phone is somehow damaged, a Chinese intelligence agent will sneak in and replace it for you, free of charge.

  9. selling their handset division by geoskd · · Score: 1

    Blackberry is rumoured to consider selling their handset division

    So, Blackberry, after changing their name to Blackberry would no longer be making or selling... Blackberrys.

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    1. Re:selling their handset division by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      Blackberry is rumoured to consider selling their handset division

      So, Blackberry, after changing their name to Blackberry would no longer be making or selling... Blackberrys.

      That's right, and it makes sense. They tried to get Lenovo to buy them in 2013, and that didn't pan out, because of IP issues. Now, if they sold just the handset division and the brand name, they could resurrect the Research in Motion brand, and emphasize their services division, which they've been beefing up via acquisitions. In other words, they want to do with their phones what IBM did with their laptops. Get rid of a low-margin hardware business with high inventory requirements and concentrate on high-margin services.

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    2. Re:selling their handset division by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well written and informative post. I've heard the same thing myself regarding the sale of the handset division versus retaining the services division...

  10. Lenovo phones by Candyly · · Score: 1, Informative

    As a Chinese, I am quite familari with Lenovo, lenovo phones, lenovo computers, a reliable Chinese supplier. For BlackBerry, I am not farmilar with this brand, and in my heart, foreign brand can not let me be at ease. But that not mean foreigh brand is poor, it is just a local person's thinking.

    1. Re:Lenovo phones by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 1

      People do get that the only thing that knocked RIM from the top of the heap was the lawsuit filed by patent troll NTP, right?

      They weren't beaten on technical merits. They weren't beaten because they "don't understand consumers". They weren't beaten on style, or execution, or anything else.

      They were beaten by a corrupt US legal system that forced the guys running the company to stop running the company, hang around in a court room for years and in the end pay over half a trillion dollars to patent trolls.

      Looking back, what they should have done was shut down US operations immediately, allowed the US government to implode and gone on to greener pastures.

      Moral of the story, don't do business with Americans. One way or another, they'll fuck you over in the end. That's how they got where they are today.

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    2. Re:Lenovo phones by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      RIM were beaten by their own cowardice. Just hours before they were due to win, they caved in and signed a deal with the patent troll.

      Then they began giving governments backdoor access. Saudi Arabia (not exactly known for their human rights) was the first. That is when RIM should have said "no." That, and the switch to QNX a few months prior, started the slide down the slippery slope.

      With a wounded brand AND an odd-ball os, what could possibly go wrong? Turns out, pretty much everything.

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    3. Re:Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You are kidding, right? They were beaten because they were arrogant. I remember the attitude they exuded when Apple announced the iPhone. I remember the arrogant advertisement when they announced their tablet....remember the 'amateur hour is over' add? They thought they were untouchable. They thought they had the golden touch. Yah, right. Apple and Android (Google) crushed them. I recently helped a relative figure out how to configure calendar reminders on their phone. I am now confused about where the arrogance came from.

      Oh, and I also followed the trial. I despise patent trolls, but RIM did not conduct themselves well and the judge called them on their tactics.

    4. Re:Lenovo phones by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 1

      Really? The RIM lawsuit was over and done with 8+ years ago.

      Blackberry doesn't exist today because they were about "enterprise solutions" and catered to big business and government.

      Once the iPhone was released, no one wanted clunky 1990s style phones and Blackberry didn't have a plan. And when Blackberry finally had a plan, it was a stupid plan to make their OS instead of using Android.

      Blackberry now gets to join Nokia in the club of phone companies no longer around because they didn't use Android.

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    5. Re:Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be angry at them for not following the heard and making something on their own, something better and also different.
      Have you ever used BB phones? I have and I'll no wish to go back to Apple iDiot or scummy Google Android products.
      Microsoft is not even worth a consideration.

    6. Re:Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody does a better job with messaging and security.

      Except for GSMK (Cryptophone) (and maybe others).

    7. Re:Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Be angry at them for not following the heard and making something on their own, something better and also different.

      Why? There are much better reasons te be angry with them, like the ones mentioned by grandparent.

    8. Re:Lenovo phones by CMECC · · Score: 1

      As an example of BlackBerry making high quality phones, after my previous BlackBerry phone lasted almost 5 years, I bought a new BlackBerry Q10 a couple months ago. I have nearly no complaints about it. It's a great phone first, & a smart phone as a bonus. My Q10 gets about 2.5 times the battery life of my work-provided iPhone 5s on long conference calls. I also type much faster & more accurately on a physical keyboard. When folks see my new BlackBerry, lots of them say they still miss their BlackBerrys.

  11. Yeah, it's for Hal in Sales by istartedi · · Score: 1

    Yeah, it's for Hal in Sales. It's his retirement gift. What? The whole company? You've gotta be kidding me. Why?

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  12. Lenovo phones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Don't worry because Blackerry is known for their very high quality phones. They are mostly for business and not entertainment, and that is why they became less popular over the years. Nobody does a better job with messaging and security. Lenovo would be lucky if they are allowed to buy them.

  13. But can it run Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ????

    1. Re:But can it run Linux? by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

      Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these!

  14. so long... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    phone of choice for certain government and corporate users (such as pres. obama), once the chinese get their grubby red paws on the company.

  15. flush with cash by roman_mir · · Score: 2

    The Chinese have so much productive capacity that they managed to accumulate gigantic piles of cash that came from the West and obviously they can't do anything with it except buy Western businesses. This is accelerating as expected as the Chinese are trying to get rid of their foreign cash reserves in exchange for solid assets. Soon enough the equation will balance itself out, when the Chinese have all the productive assets (real capital) and the rest of the world will be supplying cheap labour.

    1. Re:flush with cash by Clsid · · Score: 1

      More like the wealthy Chinese are buying stuff overseas that is dirt cheap compared to the invetsments required to do stuff here. Plus no govt interference mostly. In most Chinese cities property prices are so ridiculously expensive that a lot of people are just buying Spanish villas, French vineyards, etc plus the old factories out there so they can export those products back to China with the so-desired foreign label that the Chinese consumer demands.

  16. I don't understand the hatred by msobkow · · Score: 1

    I don't understand the hatred. All I can think is that it's anti-Chinese bigotry.

    I've had ZERO problems with my Lenovo laptop, and it is one of the cheapest i7 models they make. It's a year and a half old at this point.

    The HP I used to have, on the other hand, was a total lemon. Within six months the wifi blew out so the motherboard blew out. Nine months later it blew out again but was no longer under warranty, so it had no wifi. By 18 months old, the hard drive had failed.

    No matter what brand you buy, the odds are it's "Made in China" from the cheapest parts the vendor could source. So who cares whether the brand is Chinese, European, UK, Canadian, Australian, African, or American owned save for racist bigots?

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    1. Re:I don't understand the hatred by Junta · · Score: 1

      No matter what brand you buy, the odds are it's "Made in China" from the cheapest parts the vendor could source.

      Actually, vendors actually do manage suppliers differently and rule out the cheapest frequently. There are companies that will do whatever is chepest no matter what, but they generally learn their lessons. For example many companies did this and counterfeit capacitors screwed them royally in terms of perception and warranty cost. The vendors that managed suppliers with a focus on quality laughed all the way to the bank.

      Also, ironically Lenovo manufactures some devices in North Carolina, USA. Two parts of their stated strategy are distributed manufacturing and in-sourcing manufacturing rather than relying heavily upon companies like Foxconn the way most others do it. So you order Dell from US, you 100% won't have US manufactured stuff. You order Lenovo, you might get US manufacturing. Lenovo might give it up like Dell did, but at the moment if you want 'made in america' your best bet is Lenovo.

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    2. Re:I don't understand the hatred by LessThanObvious · · Score: 1

      I don't generally see hatred and certainly not toward the Chinese people. It is the complex relationship between the west and the Chinese government that creates concerns. China as a nation is a great ally and we depend on China, as China depends on the west. The relationship with the Chinese government does certainly have some points in which we have become adversarial. The continued harmony of that overall relationship will be one of the key determining factors in writing of the next hundred years of history.

  17. Blackberry shouldn't be a hardware offering... by Junta · · Score: 1

    That was blackberry's biggest mistake. When it was blatantly obvious that their device market share was doomed, they could have swooped in and provided trusted enterprise platform atop the other platforms. Instead they stubbornly ignored that potential and doubled down on fighting back with dubious 'consumer' product, and failed.

    So in the handset space, Lenovo can focus more on the efforts like BBM for other platforms. This could be a challenge since by the time Blackberry started responding, other credible competitors have seeped in (Microsoft, IBM, et al).

    There is of course another interesting asset. Blackberry owns QNX, and QNX actually has a notable chunk of automotive.

    Of course the rumor suggests a price in the neighborhood of 7.5 billion. That would be ludicrous for these options. They paid 1 billion for IBM's PC, 2 billion for IBM's x86 servers, and about 3 billion for motorola. It's hard to imagine enough perceived opportunity in Blackberry to be worth more than all of Lenovo's other acquisitions combined.

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  18. Gotta wonder by kilodelta · · Score: 1

    If the U.S. government will step in and prevent the sale. After all gov't here LOVES their Blackberry devices. And it wouldn't do to have the Chicom government exercising control over the construction of the phones - who knows what could slip in?

  19. This is false information by acoustix · · Score: 1

    The Canadian government has already said they will not allow the sale of BB to the Chinese.

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  20. QNX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Blackberry acquired QNX Realtime Operating as part of its process to try and become relevant. Although their handset business is going down the tubes - QNX is still in use in millions of cars worldwide and is in fact a dominant player in that market. Do we really want the Chinese to own the brains behind a large share of world vehicles, as well as owning and making everything else?

    Let's face it. They are not after the Blackberry here.

  21. It's not bigotry,it's simply security concerns by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 1

    Most of us have moved onto Androids and iPhones, but the few people still using Blackberries are doing so because they offer security the other 2 don't. Part of that security is that it is sold by a Canadian company and Canada has had a pretty good reputation for respecting privacy and security. China has an extremely well deserved reputation of being espionage happy, this wouldn't go over well with those customers.

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  22. Perhaps they are confused by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Right now its a scam company drawing in all the *security conscious* businessmen and politicos.

    I find it nothing short of bizarre that people actually believe that their BB encrypted service is somehow exempt from the law, and the long arm of the five-eyes' three-letter agencies.

    Once sold to the chinese, I WILL consider buying.

  23. Why by Twelfth+Harmonic · · Score: 1

    is BB still a *commodity* in the IT sector? Shouldn't have gone extinct long before Nokia?

  24. Yah more crap stuff by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

    Lenovo laptops suck. For some obscure reason a lot of the companies I have worked for used Lenovo laptops.
    Shitty battery life and shitty performance.
    So buying Blackberry would be a good move to bolster their shitty handset business (with another shitty handset business).

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    1. Re:Yah more crap stuff by jp10558 · · Score: 1

      It's probably because the laptops don't break very often, are pretty standardized along the lines (i.e. the T510-T540, W510-W540 all use the same batteries, and the T and W series use the same power adapters within the letter series) have good warranty service and are very price competitive.

      So all good things for cost savings and reliability for a fleet of laptops.

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    2. Re:Yah more crap stuff by LordWabbit2 · · Score: 1

      Damn. You have valid points. Never had one fail on me (hardware wise, tend to brutiize windows though, so format/recover is required).

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