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Alienware's Triangular Area-51 Re-Design With Tri-SLI GeForce GTX 980, Tested

MojoKid writes Dell's Alienware division recently released a radical redesign of their Area-51 gaming desktop. With 45-degree angled front and rear face plates that are designed to direct control and IO up toward the user, in addition to better directing cool airflow in, while warm airflow is directed up and away from the rear of the chassis, this triangular-shaped machine grabs your attention right away. In testing and benchmarks, the Area-51's new design enables top-end performance with thermal and acoustic profiles that are fairly impressive versus most high-end gaming PC systems. The chassis design is also pretty clean, modular and easily servicable. Base system pricing isn't too bad, starting at $1699 with the ability to dial things way up to an 8-core Haswell-E chip and triple GPU graphics from NVIDIA and AMD. The test system reviewed at HotHardware was powered by a six-core Core i7-5930K chip and three GeForce GTX 980 cards in SLI. As expected, it ripped through the benchmarks, though the price as configured and tested is significantly higher.

138 comments

  1. It's a space heater. by Patricia · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think I had a space heater that looked just like that once.

    1. Re:It's a space heater. by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      I realize you jest, but having a gaming computer that puts off a fair bit of heat isn't a bad thing in parts of the country during the winter. The waste heat is hardly wasted at that point. Gives even more reason to overclock as well.

    2. Re:It's a space heater. by wolrahnaes · · Score: 2

      I may be mistaken on my understanding of heat and efficiency, but I believe that if you have electric heat in your home the "waste" heat from a computer costs the same per preferred unit of heat.

      If gas is cheaper than electricity for you like it is for me that doesn't really help as much, but if you have electric heat you may as well run Folding/SETI/Bitcoin/whatever during the cold season.

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    3. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't forget the acoustic noise. When the fans are *so loud* you can't hear the game sounds, even through through the best headphones, your great at benchmark setup makes the better stealth games and anything cooperative with other speaking players games unplayable.

      It also makes it hard to say thank you when mom brings you a plate of oreos in your man-cave.

    4. Re:It's a space heater. by cdrudge · · Score: 1

      That might ok in the winter when you can make use of the heat. But in the spring/summer/fall when you don't want the extra heat, or worse when you're running an air conditioner, you're just undoing the advantages gain during the winter.

      Plus electric resistance heat is about the worst way to heat a home from a cost per BTU perspective.

    5. Re:It's a space heater. by Megane · · Score: 1

      I read your comment first, then I clicked on the link. Holy crap, you're right. And I'm sure that the people who go all jizz over this probably made snide comments about Apple's new Mac Pro being a big black trash can.

      There's nothing else like it on the market currently.

      Yeah, I wonder why.

      Alienware might call it Triad, but we'd actually call it pretty bad-ass.

      OHAHAHAWAHAAHWHAHAAAAA! I call it pretty dumb-ass. lol Alienware. A few weeks ago I was at a small lan party thing and one guy brought his Alienware monster that was about the size of a humvee. He actually wanted to put it on top of the table, but we managed to get him to put it on a plastic crate box (I guess he didn't want it on the floor). I was sitting where its big six inch fan blew warm air out the back, and I was the only one in the room not talking about being cold, so I guess there was one thing good about it.

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    6. Re:It's a space heater. by samwichse · · Score: 1

      It is your misunderstanding, unless by electric heat your mean resistive heat?

      Baseboard heaters are the same efficiency, go ahead, run as server farm. Their Coefficient of Performance (COP) is essentially 1.

      But a modern electric heat pump (last 10 years) should give you at a COP of at least 3, meaning for 1 kw electricity, it will pump 3 kw of heat into your house.

      So heating your house with computers will triple your heating bill/energy usage.

    7. Re:It's a space heater. by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Don't forget the acoustic noise.

      As opposed to non-acoustic noise - the kind of noise you cannot hear?

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    8. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, as opposed to the RF noise which your custom rig pumps out 'cause you borked the shielding and now your wifi sucks and you can't figure out why.

    9. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      First of all, not all of us (few maybe?) live in homes with modern heat pumps.

      Second, that's not the right way to look at it. If you're using computers to heat your home and do nothing else, then yeah that's stupid. If you're actually doing something, then in some sense, the work that computer is doing is what you were paying for the electricity for... therefore "waste" heat that is augmenting your home's heating system is "free" heat.

    10. Re:It's a space heater. by alvinrod · · Score: 1

      While that's certainly true, if you're going to run your computer anyway, you can capitalize by reducing your energy costs elsewhere. Having a more efficient source of heating simply means that your savings are not as great, but you can still save money.

    11. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or Japan, when God tells you that the space heater she made you get is for the girls, and you should go over to the computer instead.

      Oh well, at least it isn't raining today. And really, God does make a nice hotpot so you really won't mind having to buy some tinsel, or even the reindeer costume.

    12. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're actually doing something, then in some sense, the work that computer is doing is what you were paying for the electricity for... therefore "waste" heat that is augmenting your home's heating system is "free" heat.

      This assumes the value of what you use the computer for is more than what the electricity costs (especially if comparing competing components when designing or choosing a computer). That is still not the right way to look at it. Neither aspect is free. The total benefit is the value of the use of the computer and the value of the produced heat, while the cost is the electricity and parts (and heat if your home is not needing heating at the moment). If you are at the point of diminishing returns of graphics for a gaming computer, and your home has a heat pump, you could easily not be getting any extra benefit from a higher end system. Heck, even if your house has an older heating system without a heat pump, if your computer is far enough from the thermostat and you don't have the greatest circulation of air, the heat isn't going to lessen your heating bill at all.

    13. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Noise can also be defined as comments that are moot and not conductive to the thread. Hmmmmm.... I can't really think of an example right now. Maybe you can post something asinine yet without understanding and someone can point out that it is noise as well. ;)

    14. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The choice isn't between using a computer and not having one, but deciding which brand part to go with, if going for a higher end part, or these days, paying a little more for a more efficient part. You have options when it comes to power consumption of a computer, and choosing one that uses more power doesn't "save" you anything if you don't use electric heating (even then, it might not cut down on the amount of central heating used) .

    15. Re:It's a space heater. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "god" is a fictitious entity and you are an absolute moron for believing that garbage. if we were in person, i'd beat the shit out of your scrawny, weak little bitch ass just for mentioning such a stupid thing.

    16. Re:It's a space heater. by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      Last I looked, commercial heat pumps were not really better than resistive heating at OF (-18C) or lower, and there are places in the country where it gets colder than that fairly often during the winter. We burn natural gas for heat.

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    17. Re:It's a space heater. by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      Noise can also be defined as comments that are moot and not conductive to the thread. Hmmmmm.... I can't really think of an example right now. Maybe you can post something asinine yet without understanding and someone can point out that it is noise as well. ;)

      In this case (pun intended), I too would be worried about thermal conductivity.

      To get back on topic, I'm aware of the general meaning of "noise" in physics/electronics, but I couldn't help the comment, since people generally mean "unwanted sound" when talking about "noise", and unwanted sound is one of the first things to come to mind when discussing badass computers.

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    18. Re:It's a space heater. by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      COP cannot exceed 1 dumbass. You cannot magically turn 1KW of electricity into 3KW of heat. With an ideal heating element(AKA non-existent) you could turn 1KW of electricity into 1KW of heat, no more.

    19. Re:It's a space heater. by beastofburdon · · Score: 1

      That makes sense. A heat pump gets a large amount of its efficiency because it only outputs a small amount of heat at a time and is turned off a large portion of the time. When you have to raise the temperature that much, or maintain it with that much of a difference outside it would have to output a much larger amount of heat and run continuously.

    20. Re:It's a space heater. by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Oh my, what a dumbass I am.

      I've only turned 1kw of electricity into 1kw of WORK instead. Work moving heat against a gradient from outside the house to the inside.

      God I'm such a dumbass I never learned anything about phase change heating/cooling systems.

      I sure couldn't have looked this up on wikipedia by typing "heat pump COP" into Google and clicking the first link!

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H...

      Wow am I stupid!

    21. Re:It's a space heater. by samwichse · · Score: 1

      ROFL you really don't know much about heat pumps do you?

  2. triangle? by dasacc22 · · Score: 1

    looks more like a skewed protruded hexagon.

    1. Re: triangle? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TFA states 45 degrees... It's an equilateral triangle!!! 60 degrees FTW!

      I really stopped reading the article after that and just looked at the pictures.

  3. Re: FRIST PSTO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I only read Bennett Haselton posts. What garbage is this? We need a frequent contributor who has solved the ice crisis at burning man to test our PCs

  4. Phew. by grub · · Score: 1

    I was missing my MojoKid/HotHarware clickbait.
    Thanks!

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    1. Re:Phew. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Looks like it's working too. The page is allready slashdoted. I wonder if their site would be better hosted on the machine being reviewed

    2. Re:Phew. by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      Not really, it a piece of Dell, err sh*t.

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  5. Geometry is hard ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... when you can't immediately recognize a 60 degree angle by what it is ...

  6. Prebuilt desktop PC's? Gross. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Build your own PC, don't be a clod.

  7. Fuck it, I'm out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    This website continues to feature less and less interesting content and more and more click-bait and advertisements masquerading as articles.

    I knew the end was near when Slashdot featured that one-sided Gamergate writeup that shat all over gamers, right around the same time all the other big media-controlled blogs were doing the same thing.

    I've been reading and giving you page hits since 2003, but I'll be damned if I'll do it anymore.

    1. Re: Fuck it, I'm out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      *waves*

    2. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by u38cg · · Score: 2

      Actually, it's about ethics in games journalism.

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    3. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by Holi · · Score: 1

      That's why I don't get it, when have their ever been ethics in in gaming journalism?

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    4. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      This is not even the first slashvertisement for this ugly space inefficient design. I'm not going to link the other one because they don't deserve the clicks.
      I'm eligible to disable advertising, but I have not done so because I get at least some enjoyment out of the site and I know they get money for impressions even though I have never clicked on one. But now the Cox Contour advertisment auto starts audio blasting at random times such that I can't leave slashdot running in my browser. That is beyond poor form.

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    5. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by samwichse · · Score: 1

      Even better is the bit about the angled face making it easier to draw cooling air in.

      You just outed yourself as paid marketing fluff, Slashdot and hothardware, because nowhere have I ever seen it more efficient to draw cooling air downward against the rising heat gradient.

      BS.

    6. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by towermac · · Score: 1

      Same boat here.

      When they were doing the pop-up thing at the bottom of the page, I tried the disable advertising, but that only killed the normal unobtrusive ads that never bothered me.

      But about the second time the audio ad blasted me out of bed in the middle of the night, I began remembering to close /. when done. I wonder how that played in the marketing meetings afterwards. Who am I kidding? We know it never came up..

    7. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      This is not even the first slashvertisement for this ugly space inefficient design.

      Do you mean the one that said it's shaped that way so that when you put it against a wall it isn't against the wall, or something stupid like that?

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    8. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      Back when the gaming journalism was run by the console manufacturers. Back then, they weren't even pretending not to be advertisers for the publishers! :)

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    9. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > it's about ethics in games journalism.

      LOL. That's funny.

      _That_ would BE news if there were any!

    10. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      That's the one. Was that a different case? If so, then I halfway retract my complaint.

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    11. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by tnk1 · · Score: 1

      There are certain ethical guidelines in gaming journalism. For instance:

      1. When being paid off, be sure to politely sniff and lick the hand of your benefactors when they bend down to pet you.
      2. Remember, there are no bad games, only former game journalists who are unemployed for saying that there are.
      3. Writing games is hard. Make sure that you thank them by ensuring they get at least seven out of ten points for effort. Every time.
      4. Encourage yourself to think of the surprise that your readers will have when the game you rated 9/10 is discovered to be buggy, as a "plot development".
      5. Make sure that you encourage females in gaming by showing off as many pairs of large, scantily clad breasts as possible. They'll feel right at home.

    12. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      It would be if you had included a woman's home address.

    13. Re:Fuck it, I'm out by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If I'd had the faintest intention of thinking about maybe considering buying one I might remember *it*, rather than how dumb the slashvertisement (I mean article) was.

      Could be the same one turned 180 degrees. Choose your axis.

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  8. What a nice ad... by frank_adrian314159 · · Score: 0

    Thank God I don't feel any need to buy anything that ugly. I'm not sure who are the most profoundly stupid about aesthetics here - Dell/Alienware or their customers. Buy here's a clue for those of you thinking of buying one - when you're tired of looking like an over-privileged tween who got hold of daddy's credit card, get a real case that's worth that kind of money. Simplicity and elegance win every time over ugly, overpriced bling.

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    1. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      As someone who owns an Alienware laptop, I assure you that the quality of the build is second to none. I imagine that their desktop PCs are similarly well made and not everyone has time to waste building their own, unless perhaps you're a kid who "got hold of daddy's credit card" and you don't have any real responsibilities.

    2. Re:What a nice ad... by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      How is the tech support? Is it as good as the Precision workstation group?

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    3. Re:What a nice ad... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      not everyone has time to waste building their own, unless perhaps you're a kid who "got hold of daddy's credit card" and you don't have any real responsibilities.

      You don't have time to spend four hours one evening assembling the parts? Not even if it saves you $1,000 off of a similarly configured prebuilt?

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    4. Re:What a nice ad... by oodaloop · · Score: 2

      Some of us will gladly pay to avoid four hours of frustration, followed by 6 more unplanned hours of troubleshooting. Do you change your own oil in your car? Make your own peanut butter? Bake your own bread? Build your own furniture? Don't you know how much money you could be saving by doing all these things yourself?!?

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    5. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you change your own oil in your car?
      Yes, sometimes.

      Make your own peanut butter?
      No, not a fan of it.

      Bake your own bread?
      Yes, quite regularly. Three loaves this week, plus pitta bread.

      Build your own furniture?
      No, but mostly because I don't have the skill, and the wife won't let me try (I assume you mean make from scratch, not self-assemble).

    6. Re:What a nice ad... by Bob+the+Super+Hamste · · Score: 1

      Do you change your own oil in your car?

      Always, as well as most of the other work on the cars.

      Make your own peanut butter?

      No but I haven't eaten peanut butter in close to 20 years, I do make my own jams though.

      Bake your own bread?

      Yes and I love the smell that lingers for about a day after doing so.

      Build your own furniture?

      Yes because I can't find good furniture for prices that aren't extortion level priced. That and you try finding a solid walnut desk.

      While I understand the need to make things other people's problems there is a real sense of accomplishment when you do something your self. Once you get good at doing things you can generally do a better job than the quick and dirty you paid someone. When I change oil I actually spend the time while the oil is draining to check things that should be checked regularly, like belts, hoses, suspension, wheel bearings, lights, etc. I also will take care of things like knocking some of the dust and dirt out of the air filter, and changing the power steering fluid that is in the reservoir, charging the battery all the way, greasing the wheel bearings. Now add in that I can do a full synthetic fluid change for about $50 on a vehicle that has a 7 quart oil capacity and takes a rather expensive canister filter. The 45 minutes I spend changing oil I come out ahead since I would spend about 45 minutes to go get it changed and get back from the rapid oil change place and they do a shitty job which costs more and likely they would cross thread the drain plug.

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    7. Re:What a nice ad... by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      Confirmation Bias is your friend.

    8. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, some of us still feel some kind of connection to our physical lives that doesn't include staring at glowing rectangles.

    9. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misspelled "experience".

      On the contrary, it's always funny when someone like you who has zero experience tries to pretend that they have a clue. Keep talking, I'll grab some popcorn and laugh at you.

    10. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't know, never needed it. Like I said, this thing is built like a tank.

      Every other laptop I have seen has problems where the keyboards or even the entire body will flex under pressure or when being picked up (ie. Asus, Acer and HP) and that usually leads permanent damage over time. Most other laptops with real CPUs and GPUs also have overheating problems, especially Toshibas and Lenovos. Then you also have every laptop out there using glossy screens. My Alienware has none of these issues.

    11. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would take at least four hours just to spec out quality parts for a high-end build. One low quality component can make the entire build crap. Four hours is $300 worth of my work time and worth even more of my friend and family time.

      I'd also like to know how you're building a high-end desktop for $250 in order to save $1000 over the cost of a $1250 Alienware desktop.

    12. Re:What a nice ad... by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      You misspelled "experience".

      "Experience" together with "As someone who owns an Alienware laptop".

      This is weak even for trolling.

      It's the geek version of holding a gun sideways on one hand and $20 in single dollar bills on the other.

    13. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Experience" together with "As someone who owns an Alienware laptop".

      Uhh, that's generally how experience works, by having personal knowledge of something. You probably shouldn't have dropped out of school in the third grade

      This is weak even for trolling.

      Now this is something I bet you have a lot of experience, yet little success with.

    14. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. I have an Alienware MX11. The right hinge for the screen came off the case somehow. I have to prop the laptop up on three wooden pegs otherwise it will just overheat and shut off while watching Netflix. It's loud as shit despite not being all that powerful. The screen is glossy and utter shit. The case is made of cheap lightweight plastic.

      I admit, I am a huge fan of backlit stuff and one of the things that sold me on that laptop was its cool looking keyboard, and it IS a cool looking keyboard for sure. But cool looking keyboards don't make up for how shit this laptop is and how much of a waste of money it was to purchase it.

      Compare some crappy Alienware laptop to a Thinkpad and then come back and tell me that Alienware laptops have build quality that is second to none.

    15. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't have the old model, I have the latest model Alienware 17 so I'm not sure what you're claiming is "bullshit". The thing is solid (magnesium internal frame, aluminum outer shells and sturdy, rubberised plastic inside), almost completely silent, has a matte display and runs everything well.

      And seriously, a Thinkpad? Those things are overheating, underperforming, poorly built, flexing pieces of shit.

    16. Re:What a nice ad... by qwak23 · · Score: 1

      I had a much longer response typed out but lost it.. meh.

      DIY isn't always about saving money, sometimes it's about customization and getting exactly what you want. I baked my first loaf of bread ever last night (without aid of a bread machine), total labor was about 30 minutes spread across 4 hours. I mixed fresh chopped spinach into the dough and topped it with some shredded chedder that was in the fridge and needed to get used. I now have spinach chedder wheat bread to make lunch with for the rest of the week and probably part of next. In this instance, it also saved me a trip to the store.

      I started building my own cabinets and shelving units because it was difficult to find units at the store that could fit where we have space and serve the function we wanted them for. Next I plan on attempting a dining table, chairs, and maybe even a sofa. Hell, if I make the sofa, I might build in usb ports, maybe a laptop desk as well.

      I got back into programming about a year ago so I could automate some repetitive tasks. The last language I dealt with was BASIC, many many many years ago. Getting into C++ and Java was a bit rough at first but didn't take too much effort. Am I going to be writing my own OS or drivers? No. Can I write some basic software to automate some repetitive tasks at home and work? Yes.

      I've been building my own towers for about 20 years now. The first was a 386DX40 that dual booted MS-DOS and Linux. In all those years I have never spent more than a couple hours putting everything together and installing OS and drivers. I probably spent more time shopping around for parts and reading reviews/benchmarks. If I was just buying a prebuilt I'd still be shopping around and reading reviews/benchmarks. I think the only way a build could take longer than 2 hours is if you didn't have the necessary tools on hand and had never seen the insides of a PC before. For the 10 years I worked with PCs prior to building my first, I had opened every system I owned and taken a look inside, upgraded a couple of them myself and overall become familiar with most of the basic components, so I had a pretty good starting point when I did my first build.

    17. Re:What a nice ad... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think the only way a build could take longer than 2 hours is if you didn't have the necessary tools on hand and had never seen the insides of a PC before.

      I've assembled dozens of computers for myself and at summer jobs while I was in university. But it still takes a couple hours when going well, just to get everything unpacked, to check instructions for right cable hook ups (e.g. power button and usb headers, etc.). That is if things are going well. I've had times where things don't go well, and it can take a lot of time to debug. For example, finding out a quad channel mother board crashes when four channels are used, but not with three, as opposed to a DOA dimm that also happens from time to time. Or just finding out a particular ram and mobo brand combo doesn't work well without overriding the ram timing. There is a risk with a name brand computer too, but assembling your own computer risks being a much larger time sink.

      And what all the replies claiming they do everything the GP listed are missing, is there are still things you don't diy. Maybe you do make a bunch of stuff yourself, but that is not the point. There are somethings people are interested in and things they are not, and not being interested in spending time on one thing doesn't necessarily mean one lacks all interest in doing things themselves. I like working on my car, so I change my own oil. My coworker doesn't like doing it, but still does so because it saves money and he doesn't trust paying a mechanic. I also build furniture and cabinets, etc. But I don't knit my own clothes, as I don't have much interest in doing so. I don't like mowing my lawn, so I pay a neighbor's kid to do so, etc. Someone can still be a huge computer nerd, but if they have money and don't care about hardware, there is nothing wrong with just buying an off the shelf computer and get back to playing with software or whatever else holds their interest. Everyone has something they make a money vs. time trade off, regardless of how many diy activities you participate in.

    18. Re:What a nice ad... by david_thornley · · Score: 1

      You know, I'd be much happier about it if it had been only four hours of frustration followed by only six unplanned hours of troubleshooting, without the need to get different components when something mysteriously didn't work.

      I have enough money to live quite comfortably, now and after retirement. I'd like more time. This means that I pay people to do some jobs I don't like to do that would take up more time than I like.

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  9. Dumb by Russ1642 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Buy a computer because you like the shape of the case. It's how you guarantee quality.

    1. Re:Dumb by idontgno · · Score: 1

      Indeed. The highest quality case would be shaped just like a spherical cow. I have so postulated.

      PROBLEM SOLVED!

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    2. Re:Dumb by chispito · · Score: 1

      Buy a computer because you like the shape of the case. It's how you guarantee quality.

      I love my wife too much to put this thing in our home.

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  10. Is this a post or an ad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    k-ching!

    1. Re:Is this a post or an ad? by cloud.pt · · Score: 2

      This is Slashsdot mate, not PhD Comics. Gaming is also geeky, and if you don't know and/or crave Alienware, I have good (bad) news for you... You need to get out of the lab more often :D

  11. Re: FRIST PSTO! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hazel Benet is a faggot.

  12. Odd thermal dynamics by cloud.pt · · Score: 2

    Despite the hype they make about the unencumbered airflow front and back, I seriously have my doubts on a system that has a pump-in fan so close to a pump-out fan.

    I mean, look at the top triangle tip.

    In their defense, there are 2 extra fans below, but some fluid dynamics graph would be nice for prooving good thermals exist there.

    1. Re:Odd thermal dynamics by cloud.pt · · Score: 2

      Oh, nevermind, it actually makes sense because the top fans are supposed to heat the fluid circuit, which renders my point of air traveling throughout the case moot.

  13. Nice Advert, shame about the detail by danknight48 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Motherboard:
    Custom Alienware Area-51
    Power Supply:
    Custom Alienware 1500 Watt

    These "Dell" minimal/cheap profit driven components worry me. As with all Dells, they skimp on quality.
    Whatever the warranty is, add a day. Thats how long your PC will last before you need to pay over the top prices for "custom" replacement parts.

    The only "good" parts in this package is the GFX cards and CPU. The rest is just cheap profit driven components. I mean, look at the stock ram without heatsinks, look at that "custom" motherboard. How cheap can you go lol.

    Monitor is 8ms response time....... On a system marketed at "hardcore gaming". Only Dell!

    Review (Advert) also lacks:
    - Psu specs (number of 12v rails, efficiently, etc)

    This product is such a gimmick. I feel sorry for those who are unable to build their own PC's with higher quality components, whilst saving 50% on the price.

    1. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      heatsinks are just not needed on ram, they are crap and usually make the temperature of the ram higher rather than lower.

    2. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously why would you post this garbage? Is Sourceforge paid by alienware to run stories?

    3. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by tibit · · Score: 1

      I don't know where you get your Dell components, but I've had only good luck with eBay - they usually are quite cheap when the market gets flooded with off-lease corporate systems. Sure it won't be that rosy for a limited-market gamer/workstation system, but still, Dell is possibly the most affordable PC brand when it comes to aftermarket replacement parts.

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    4. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heatsinks on RAM are as useful as stripes on your honda civic. The only purpose they serve is to easily identify people who have no idea what actually needs cooling (or what makes a car faster).

      Thanks for the hint!

    5. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hate on dell much?

      the "minimal" motherboard and your "good" video card both likely dell-engineered and both built by foxconn to dell's specs.

      dell's power supplies are actually pretty decent, btw.

      and good luck building your own with better specs at half the cost -- seeing how the street value of just the cpu and 3x gpu is half the retail price of this pc. you still need better case, cooling, memory, storage, input, case, etc......

    6. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by towermac · · Score: 1

      I went to the build site because I wanted to disagree with you. I was thinking that the base of $1700 might not be too bad for both an infinitely upgradeable case along with a decent gaming PC to get started with.

      So the stock power supply is 850 watt; you'd want the 1500 watt since it is proprietary and you can't count on getting one a year or two from now. So you pick that for an extra $200, and guess what?

      The stock AMD Radeon R9 270 with 2GB GDDR5 is "only compatible" with an 850 watt PSU; you have to go up at least $400 on the video card to get one that is compatible with a 1500 watt PSU.

      So they are rip off artists, and you really can't say enough bad about them. Carry on.

    7. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by paysonwelch · · Score: 2

      I'm going to disagree with you, on the internet. Let it begin. Dell will actually vary their product quality based on the intended use. I stay away from Inspiron and Latitude lines. I will buy a precision machine (both desktop or mobile) but mostly I use their server hardware and it runs like a workhorse with no issues. I know people who are still running 2950 gen I's with no issues (even though they should upgrade). If a user is paying a premium price it's highly possible that Alienware has quality components but I don't have any info on this. I agree that it's mostly marketing hype (similar to Apple) but to just label everything Dell makes as cheap is incorrect.

    8. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      The 1500 watt power supply isn't really needed though, nor the need to consider triple-SLI / triple-Crossffire.. you win benchmarks but suffer even more latency and quirks than double-card setups. Unless you're building a military flight simulator it may be best to forget about it and then 850W PSU ought to be enough.

    9. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by danknight48 · · Score: 1

      but to just label everything Dell makes as cheap is incorrect.

      I worked in a PC repair shop for 5 years. Most of the PC's we had for repair by the customer was Dell (yes i'am aware of popularity increases that number).

      Nearly all the Dell systems we had were PSU failures just after their warranty expired (13months +). The others were motherboard failures.
      We never had a Dell PC with a broken HDD or CPU, mainly because Dell couldnt profit from making a cheap counterpart.

      They are cheap.
      Look at a "custom" Dell motherboard if you get the chance, notice how most of it is empty space (parts removed for profit) and low quality PCB components. Dell's "custom" parts give you the bear minimal with only one goal, to just reach outside the warranty window before it goes.

    10. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked in a PC repair shop for 5 years.

      In other words you are a kid with no technical experience. That's all we need to know. Go back to your "social" media sites, you clueless little shit.

    11. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by danknight48 · · Score: 1

      In other words you are a kid with no technical experience. That's all we need to know. Go back to your "social" media sites, you clueless little shit.

      Lol, i have a son, does that count?
      If only you could see my full CV.

      Keep posting behind your AC, clearly its making you feel good about your life.

    12. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Congratulations , that means you're at least 12 years old.And your "CV" is a joke. I easily have six times your experience and six times your pay, boy.

    13. Re:Nice Advert, shame about the detail by danknight48 · · Score: 1

      Congratulations , that means you're at least 12 years old.And your "CV" is a joke. I easily have six times your experience and six times your pay, boy.

      Good for you.
      Clearly you have a great experience in trolling, and, all that money has made you a complete asshole.

  14. $4649 as configured? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 2

    Granted, this $4649 is for a system with three graphics cards, but only one CPU socket! That one CPU is a hex core, but still, if you're making a fantasy computer for the stupid rich that want "the best there is", you should have at least dual Xeons.

    1. Re:$4649 as configured? by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

      Except that Xeons cost nearly double the money for equivalent processing power. Their only real advantage is the ability to n-gang them. You may as well step up to the 5960 with 8 cores (33% more cores for - you guessed it - double the cost, though an extra $500 wouldn't have busted the bank). The knee in the curve is just too steep.

      It is a shame that you can't get a dual i7 board with all the work done in software (binding a process to a particular CPU, so that any given process is limited to the resources of a single CPU, but you can run both simultaneously if you have multiple processes running). But that would cut into Intel's profit margins, so we won't see that ever happening.

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    2. Re:$4649 as configured? by Holi · · Score: 1

      Clock speed and not core count is what you want for gaming. Few games make efficient use of multiple cores, and even the ones that do are not going to scale up to many cores well.

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    3. Re:$4649 as configured? by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Games these days make far more use of the GPU than the CPU. Still, when I build a system, I want it to be versatile, so I will put in the CPU that just got bumped down in to second tier pricing by the latest whizbang CPU. I find the price of this unit astounding. A homebuilt with the same components and a better looking case with better airflow can be had for half of that.

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    4. Re:$4649 as configured? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. Apple only spends less than $250 to build an iPhone 6, the Galaxy Note series costs about the same. And yet few people build their own.

    5. Re:$4649 as configured? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer to use Latin rather than Greek numbering... therefore, I would call this a sex-core processor!

    6. Re:$4649 as configured? by Simon+Brooke · · Score: 1

      I have an 8 core i7 on my home-brewed home machine, and I have to say this: neither the Windows nor the Linux scheduler efficiently load balances across eight cores, and furthermore writing my own custom software which efficiently load balances across eight cores isn't easy. I can load up all eight cores, sure, by spawning huge numbers of threads, and have computations complete faster than they would on a single core - but of the order of three times faster, not of the order or eight times faster. Spawning just eight threads just causes them to run in series on one core, taking longer than one thread, which kind of spoils the point.

      So, even for your fantasy gaming rig, with present-generation operating systems you're not going to get a useful return on your investment from the extra cores. Sorry.

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  15. Wrong by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1

    this triangular-shaped machine grabs your attention right away.

    Looks ugly and boring to me.

    1. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So's your mom, be we all do her anyway. Then again, she pays us.

  16. Alienware is like .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alienware is like paying some guy $1000 to solve a jigsaw puzzle for you, and then giving you the results in a nice presentation box.

    Great for over-indulgent parents and lazy rich kids alike.

    1. Re:Alienware is like .... by rebelwarlock · · Score: 1

      Try $4k+

    2. Re:Alienware is like .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The $1000 was supposed to represent the premium that Dell were charging for assembling the unit.

      But

      My first post was a bit shit and confusing.

  17. Cool story, bro. by coldsalmon · · Score: 1

    I liked the part about the triangular PC case.

  18. So much jealous by Overzeetop · · Score: 2

    Wow, there's so much jealous in this thread.

    I am curious, for those who have owned Alienware since Dell acquired them - how is tech support? Are you thrown in with the consumer rabble, or so you get priority support like Dell provides with it's Precision workstations?

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    1. Re:So much jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Wow, there's so much jealous in this thread.

      Your peculiar interpretation of the comments in this thread lead me to question your sanity. Maybe you're a teenager.

    2. Re:So much jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You get somewhat of in house support after a day or so but since Dell owns Alienware the systems are pretty much garbage that break to easy.
      Speaking from a laptop purely perspective .

    3. Re:So much jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Suggested discussion point - ask other people on the forum about the tech support. Mention the Dell Precision workstations and the priority support they receive.
      What we're really aiming for is a forum regular to make a response or even give an anecdote about our amazing priority support. All our focus groups indicate that premium customers love premium customer service ...."

      Taken from the Alienware forum spamming manual, Chapter 3.

    4. Re:So much jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've owned two Alienware systems, both of them gaming laptops. On is six years old, the other four. I've only has two hardware issues:

      1. The hinge on the oldest gaming laptop is a bit loose and wobbles, but it IS six years old. Hinges wear out after a while.
      2. The fancy color changing LEDs in the keyboard et al can be flakey. I assume it's a driver problem; I've never cared to dig into it. Sometimes the lights work, sometimes they don't, generally I just ignore them.

      Both have been traveled with rather extensively, lots of moving around in cars, planes, and hotels, so they haven't been sitting in place, no major hardware failures. Maybe I had good luck, maybe you had bad luck, I dunno, but that's my experience. I bought a CyberPower machine a few years ago and I've had nothing but problems with it, but again, could just be the Random Number Gods giving me a rough time. All of these companies seem to have, on the whole, happy customers, and you rarely hear from them.

      They're a bit pricey, but if you go to any premium gaming machine supplier (CyberPower, Falcon Northwest, etc.) you'll find similar or higher prices (Falcon, I'm looking at you). So in that niche market they're competitive enough to be viable. For someone like me who isn't a hardware enthusiast and just wants a good gaming rig without having to fuss too much about which GPU works best with what MoBo and all that, they're not a terrible deal.

      CAPTCHA: Condom. Wait - really? o.o

    5. Re:So much jealous by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

      I was just curious. I've owned 3 precision machines (2 towers and a laptop) and the CS/TS - when I needed it - was absolutely first rate. If the support for A/W is similar to precision, it's probably worth a few extra bucks. I haven't had one for a year, opting for a consumer tower last upgrade...but it's getting long in the tooth, so I'm looking to see who's got Haswell-E on the market, and they're slim choices at the moment.

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    6. Re:So much jealous by djconsultingmeister · · Score: 1

      First rate for me with a laptop about a year ago. Daughter had spilled some liquid on the keyboard. They had a tech at my place in two days, he replaced the keyboard ran some tests and finished. Now I will add that I am in Maine couple hours from Boston Ma. Was pleased with the tech and the quick response. com

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    7. Re:So much jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I got a return unit for less than component cost (and they shipped the TactX keyboard instead of a generic)...

      Service on it when it died about 8 months in took about a month in total: 4 onsite visits to switch out literally everything but the optical, chassis, and HD before they gave up and sent a new unit (with superior specs-- and a gaming mouse this time) and took the dead unit back, with generic keyboard and mouse.

      Even the tech dispatched was just like, "Wait, this is you again?" the third time.

  19. Sabre is at it again... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's the Pyramid, desktop edition!

  20. Nice Advert, shame about the detail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Curently abouth 80% of components inside are of the shelf.

  21. $4649 as configured? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is for gaming. approximately 0 games support dual processor setup. And practically most run on maximum 2 cores. Were your processor speed is more important than number of core. Dual processor is as necessary as a build in Ice Maker.

  22. Automotive inspiration by operagost · · Score: 1

    It looks like it was inspired by the ass-end of a 1983 Mercury Capri.

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  23. Too newsy by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

    I find this piece of advertisement to be too article-shaped.

    The tone is way to sober and objective. If you read carefully you'll find that some of the data are actually facts! I refuse to accept this kind of newsy look-at-me-writing-articles crap in Slashdot.

    If we start accepting this kind of posts, soon we'll end up having news for nerds. Or even stuff that matters, god forbid.

  24. Yes, jealous by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    Hardly. Mostly, everyone seems caught up on the price, as if they've never seen what a pre-built high end system costs. They add up the cost of the components, not including the ones they have lying around, and figure that anything that costs more is silly. If you ever become successful enough that you value you time, you'll realize that pre-built is the only way to go. Until then, you'll simply be jealous of those of us who can check the boxes for what we want in 15 minutes and have Dell ship us a working machine, then go spend a couple hours extra consulting to cover the cost of all that integration. We'll be gaming while you guys are still trying to build. So, yes - jealous.

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    1. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If you "value you time", you won't be jerking off playing games all day, while teenagers yell obscenities into your ears in the latest online shooter.

      Researching, configuring, ordering and building a system is FUN for most of us, shithead. If you can't see this, what the fuck are you doing on Slashdot. Get off this site.

      "We'll be gaming while you guys are still trying to build" - What is this you are writing, a fucking Dell press release?

    2. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The last time I paid 4k for a system was 25 years ago.

      Name 1 game that needs that power. They do not exist yet. In a year or two you say? Then wait and save yourself about 2k.

      I did not end up a millionaire because I wasted my money.

      Pre-built has its advantages. It also has many drawbacks. Such as bios that are pain to change or upgrade. Building it yourself is sometimes enjoyable and fun. But can be a tad time consuming. But the build it yourself guys are not in it for gaming. They are usually benchmark hounds. Looking for that extra 2fps.

      The last 'knuckle' dragger I built? It cost 1.3 million. 570TB of HD space 80TB of SSD, 5.3TB of memory, 20gb fiber interconnects, and about 100 cpus and requires DC power interconnects.

      For my desktop I usually keep it around 1.8k tops. As you go past that you are basically buying the future upgrade. I would be skeptical of that particular design. It looks like trash, and in 2 years that has 0 reusability (a good way to help you acquire wealth is to reuse your assets).

      Not 'jealous' as I could buy 100 of those boxes and still have cash left over. Just practical. It looks like a childs toy, is overpriced, and over spec'd for what it does. Your sweat spot is usually a notch below that. I personally would not buy a computer right now. I would wait for skylake with its higher spec'd memory bandwidth (double). Sorry you bought an overpriced toy and now need to justify it by thinking others are 'jealous'. It is the kind of computer if you bring it anywhere people will not look at with jealousy they will look at it and laugh. As they probably built whatever it has for 2/3rds as much and had fun doing it. Your 'fun' is waiting for fedex to show up.

    3. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To take a slightly different tack, I am not a hardware enthusiast. I don't keep up with the most recent news and I don't really want to spend the time to figure out which components work the best with the motherboard, or which RAM won't have weird issues when paired with some other piece. I just want a decent gaming rig. For someone like me, I'm willing to pay a premium for someone else's expertise, put all the pieces together, and send it to my door. That's the real value AlienWare/CyberPower/etc. provide to me.

      You are completely correct though - some people love to get into the little details and squeeze out that extra frame or reduce latency by a fraction of a millisecond. Hats off to you guys - that's way more work that I'm willing to do and it requires years of experience and knowledge and tinkering. The poster above you bragging that he'll be playing while you guys are still building is missing the point. For you guys, building a system IS playing. It's like a box of legos.

      I used to be like that but, eh, I dunno. I just fell out of it, and that's okay too.

      You know what would be really nice? A service where you super smart gaming hardware guys get together, build out some exceptional systems for various price ranges, and then buy the parts off the shelf, build it, and send it to me. I'd pay you for your time and the support if I do something stupid. If you can build comparable systems but sell for 10% less or so, you could have a very viable business model. I'd love to see something like that; a grass roots gaming rig company.

      It would be a lot like how things were 20 years ago, just on a larger scale with a community putting things together. I bought my first gaming rig from a small shop that specialized in that kind of thing (ZeusPC, now out of business) and it was a great machine with great support.

    4. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In fairness building the thing is as much fun as using it for some of us.

    5. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ^ virgin gamer detected

    6. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you ever become successful enough that you value you time, you'll realize that pre-built is the only way to go.

      1%er here. I disagree.

      a) I can slap together components faster than windows can uninstall crapware (Dell, HP, whoever).

      b) As the tech guy, I get called upon to fix many a PC. Swapping power supplies, reseating memory and other simple fixes become second nature. It's like being the 'PC Whisperer'.

      c) We're talking 5 components these days. Case (w/ power supply - usually I one with an external power supply which is zero extra work compared to buying a branded PC), motherboard, CPU, memory, and SSD.

      d) The big names are behind the curve on offering SSD, extra memory, and small footprint/low power. Usually when they do, they want a premium for it like they invented it or something.

      e) Support, it is NOT worth my effing time to talk to underpaid support staff for hours (no offense). The only support that would interest me would be someone else comes here and fixes it but we could buy twice as much hardware for what that costs and simply not worry about it. More so, those contracts tend to be up to 3 years and our equipment is in service longer. I can support it myself faster and cheaper than being the middleman between support and the PC. You'll be on hold for India long after I've fixed the problem.

      f) Enjoyment. I enjoy putting components together perhaps as much as you enjoy ticking virtual boxes.

      Until then, you'll simply be jealous of those of us who can check the boxes for what we want in 15 minutes and have Dell ship us a working machine, then go spend a couple hours extra consulting to cover the cost of all that integration.

      g) 15 minutes is enough time to spec a system. 15 minutes is enough time to build the hardware. It might take an hour or two on the software but much of that is custom to our business (like SAP, ugh) and LAN that needs to be done anyway. Does Dell preinstall Firefox with Adblock+? Where is that tickbox?

      Dell ships with crapware and - last I checked - for a small business, there is no option to uncheck half their crap (and 3rd party crap like Adobe and McAffee). Even Dell writes too much cruft that occupies start up space, program folders, resident programs, updates (additional to Windows). It is faster to start without it than to research which Dell crapware you need to keep on the system (e.g., for warrenty purposes - to which you have clearly resigned yourself).

      Perhaps PC building and basic A+ level service is beyond you or not your thing. For those whom this stuff is second nature, DIY is easier, faster, cheaper.

    7. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      g) 15 minutes is enough time to spec a system. 15 minutes is enough time to build the hardware.

      It takes longer than that to just get the parts out, check the packing list, and start to open boxes. I've only spent less than 15 minutes assembling hardware for a single computer when assembling a bunch of cluster computers assembly line style. If you aren't using stock heatsink, it could take that long just to mess with heatsink compound. And specing it in that time? Takes that long just to sort through different brands of the particular GPU you've already picked out from reviews, to avoid ones with a high rate of lemons and has no heat or noise problems.

    8. Re:Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My focus is office computers, no separate GPU required. CPU has stock heatsink typically and picking out a midrange/sweetspot CPU is trivial. Any necessary component review (aside from compatability which is typically trivial), needs to be done if selecting a Dell. If you don't care, you don't care and the job is the same either way. As to checking packing lists and "start to open the boxes"... I keep a boxcutter in my pocket most days but whatever you buy you need to "start to open the boxes" and "check the packing list" (if that's your thing). Those are wash issues. I don't check pack lists unless something is missing (it would be very clear to me if there is no memory and I ordered some).

      Timewise, throwing 8GB of mem in the shopping cart is just as easy if not easier that figuring out if the 4GB --> 8GB Dell "upgrade" is worthwhile. Then there is all that time being puzzled as to why a 4GB memory upgrade cost more than a one-off purchase of 8GB. I know that Dell needs to pay for "Hookers & Blow (TM)" but so do Corsair, Newegg, Kingston, Amazon, et cetera.

  25. form factor by Iamthecheese · · Score: 1

    I'm delighted to learn that a company has taken PC's from the era of the box shape. It's akin to the invention of the metal guitar. Alienware is WAY too expensive for the speeds they offer but this is real innovation and they deserve many kudos.

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  26. Re:FRIST PSTO! by tbuddy · · Score: 1

    Link wasn't to Dice.com. Not interested.

  27. Thank you Alienware by ilsaloving · · Score: 1

    Thank you for having the guts to try something new and different.

    It's so tiresome to always have Apple be the one that experiments with design, followed by everyone else copying whatever Apple did whether or not it was a good idea. When Apple introduced their gumdrop iMacs, everything else went translucent. Microwaves. Clothes irons. It was absurd.

    eg: We recently got a bunch of PCs, and they included mice copied from Apple's absurdly-flat mighty mouse or whatever they call it. Had to throw the damn things out cause they were unusable. Apple should be barred from designing mice.

    1. Re:Thank you Alienware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, a new case form factor is an astounding innovation.

      We should always give credit when a company does something that isn't totally shit, LIKE THEY ARE FUCKING SUPPOSED TO EVERY FUCKING DAY.

  28. the poor man's mac pro... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it's like owning a fake rolex.

  29. Yes, jealous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You sound like an 11 year old Justin Bieber fan.
    Somebody not liking something you like does not make them jealous.

    Grow the fuck up and get in the real world.

    Don't like my comment? you must be jealous ;)

  30. Actually love the case, the rest.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Looking at those pictures I actually really like that case layout. While it may not offer much over any other high end case it looks different and premium and fits well into the high end case market (Look at the stuff In-Win is doing for non-traditional case designs). I especially like the predone placement of the HDD's on the opposite door for easy access. If it was ATX compatible I would consider buying just the case to put my own gear in. That said it'll be a cold day when Dell starts selling components like that.

    That said most gamer's will avoid this since it looks to be a proprietary motherboard design and a questionable white box PSU (If Dell could confirm its OEM for the power supply, such as using a base design from Seasonic that would go a ways for that).

  31. 45 degree by oKtosiTe · · Score: 1

    Those are not 45 degree angles.

  32. Blah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Base system pricing isn't too bad, starting at $1699 ....

    What sort of BS is that? You can get a 6 core 16GB system for ~$800 on Amazon as a base system. Look a bit further and you can find places that do custom builts (which end up being more expensive than going bare bones and sourcing all the parts yourself) and readily get a much better "base system" for $1699. And let's not forget that the review is for the $4649 customized system, at which point you can readily get a much better custom system for less. Hell, look at Amazon and you see three GTK 980s will cost you $1710, meaning that there's over $1,000 room to spare over even the Alienware's "Base system" to really flex out the system in lots of ways.

    Seriously, stuff like this tends to disgust me precisely because it warps the perception of what even a mediocre system should cost. It's little wonder OEMs for ages were selling 512MB systems as "Base" and anything in even the 2GB range cost a thousand more. The one big thing Windows Vista did, regardless of its intention, was to radically increase the "Base" system to something actually decent. To that end, I'm glad that 8 and 16GB systems are finally starting to be more of a "Base" system. Although I'm still mystified why there's such a massive disparage on the graphics card performance between low end and high end systems when it all seems based upon just how many graphical cores there are.

    *shrug*

  33. Bloatware by amicusNYCL · · Score: 1

    That's why I came in this thread - one of the reasons I like building my own machines is the complete lack of bloatware. How are Alienware machines in that regard, since they're controlled by Dell are they packed with useless shit I don't want or need? Is it finally time for me to order something pre-built, or is the landscape still basically the same?

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    1. Re:Bloatware by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I've had two gaming rigs from AlienWare, one pre-Dell. Neither one came with bloat-ware. They have the OS, drivers, usually the GPU's special software (which may or may not be bloat-ware to you, I don't find it useful personally), and little else. They're quite clean.

      Gaming rigs are different than office and home machines; they're sold to a specific audience that goes bonkers over things like that, and the companies want their product to sell. Consequently, you don't find extra crap like pre-loaded anti-virus, crappy game services, email clients that let you have special backgrounds, junk like that.

    2. Re:Bloatware by qwak23 · · Score: 1

      I have an Alienware laptop, it came with some bloatware, but not as bad as others (mostly dell crap, backup, performance scanner, etc). At the time of purchase Alienware was still shipping windows 7 as the default OS after everyone else had shifted to 8. It was a little pricier than similarly spec'd laptops on the market, but I was able to customize it and get exactly what I wanted (14" 1600x900 screen, decent GPU/CPU, etc). A little heavy, but the overall design is nice, power cord in the back center, no other ports on the back. SD card, HDMI, USB and dvd all on the sides. I like the keyboard and feel of the space provided for wrists. Another nice thing is that the GPU is actually supported by the actual GPU drivers (in my case NVidia), as opposed to almost every other laptop I've bought over the years where the GPU drivers were under laptop manufacturer support vice GPU manufacturer support and never updated.

      Of course that's a laptop, I have no experience with their towers. I still build my own towers and haven't bought a pre-built since the 286 days. I love the laptop, best one that I've ever owned, but I don't think that I'd be willing to throw down on a tower rig from them, when it's something I can reasonably handle myself.

    3. Re:Bloatware by _merlin · · Score: 1

      Dell only packs the bloatware onto consumer machines. My Dell Precision T3610 had absolutely no bloatware (but the OS install was a bit weird so I reinstalled anyway), and neither did my PowerEdge R420 (no OS at all).

  34. Cheap F'n Plastic by CrashNBrn · · Score: 1

    Shame that the case looks like it's made from the plastic used in $10 cases. Instead of ABS, or metal or something that wont break by looking at it sideways.

  35. so low by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

    (Sits down at new uber-Alienware.)

    "Jimmy, why aren't you doing anything?"

    "All the current MMOs suck. The only fun ones are ancient and boring, like WoW, or dead, like City of Heroes."

    "There will be a CoH clone soon."

    "Maybe. In two years. Everything now is a god damned action pew pew MMO with no soul. Ever feel alone in a crowd of a few dozen other players? Somehow these fuckers manage it with trivial soloability."

    --
    (-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
  36. Good for League of Legends,no lags. by tractari+auto+iasi · · Score: 1
    I have read on a website some details and im here to relate it for you.

    "With 45-degree angled front and rear face plates, that are designed to direct control and IO up toward the user, in addition to better directing cool airflow in, while backside warm airflow is directed up and away from the rear of the chassis, this machine grabs your attention right away. There's nothing else like it on the market currently. Alienware might call it Triad, but we'd actually call it pretty bad-ass.

    I would definently buy this gaming dektop pc, a good a a viable design , and a performance that is really uncomparable with other products.

    I know that my league of legends match would work perfectly ,no lags,no screen freezing, it's a good price for a future investment.

  37. what need for this? by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    Its nice but as far as I can tell, there's literally no game out or coming that will stretch one 980GTX, let alone 3, so why do/buy this?