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Antares Rocket Explodes On Launch

sneakyimp writes: The Antares rocket operated by Orbital Sciences Corporation exploded on launch due to a "catastrophic anomaly" after a flawless countdown. No injuries are reported and all personnel are accounted for. According to the audio stream hosted by local news affiliate WTVR's website, the Cygnus spacecraft contained classified crypto technology and efforts are being made to cordon off the wreckage area. Additionally, interviews of personnel and witness reports are to be limited to appropriate government agencies so that an accident report can be generated. This accident is likely to have a detrimental effect on the stock price of Orbital Sciences Corp, traded on the NYSE. The Antares rocket's engines are based on old soviet designs from the '60s. While this is sure to be a blow to NASA due to the cost, it may well boost the fortunes of SpaceX, a chief competitor of Orbital Sciences. Both companies were recently awarded resupply contracts by NASA.

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  1. Flawless Countdown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Hey, at least they got the hard part right.

  2. Orbital by Geccoman · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I have friends that worked on this rocket. Some were there for the launch. Orbital is going to have serious problems because of this.

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    1. Re:Orbital by brainboyz · · Score: 5, Informative

      Ya think? They're charging 1.9B for 8 launches, versus SpaceX's 1.6B for 12. Loss of vehicle on a production launch is going to rain hell on someone.

    2. Re:Orbital by glwtta · · Score: 5, Informative

      And it's not the first time they've blown up rockets rather than shooting them into space.

      To be fair, the mechanics of the two things can be very similar.

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    3. Re:Orbital by tibit · · Score: 5, Informative

      Contrary to popular bullshit propaganda, the popular U.S. rocket launches are all done by businesses, not NASA. NASA provides program management, mission design for their own payloads, and so on, but they were never in rocket-making business, ever. Both Apollo and Space Shuttle were managed by NASA, but designed and built by subcontractors. Launched too. NASA has more input into design of their science payloads, but even then it's design only, not manufacturing. That's done by subcontractors still.

      The only difference between the "commercial" launches and those prior to that is the amount of NASA management involvement. From the business standpoint, nothing much has changed between the "noncommercial" and "commercial" launches.

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    4. Re:Orbital by wooferhound · · Score: 5, Informative

      In the news conference they said that the rocket lost upward momentum at 12 seconds and the Range Safety Officer pressed the destruct button at 20 seconds

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  3. Look on the bright side by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 5, Funny

    The ISS crew will get their pizza for free now.

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    1. Re: Look on the bright side by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      There's no such thing as a free launch.

    2. Re:Look on the bright side by Nimey · · Score: 5, Funny

      ICBM silo art: delivery anywhere in the world in 20 minutes or your next one's free!

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  4. CNN is reporting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    no indications of terrorism linked to the destruction of the rocket.

    1. Re:CNN is reporting by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 5, Funny

      It was aimed at ISS, not ISIS. I can see how that could be misunderstood though.

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  5. Horrible track record by Beck_Neard · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is it just me or is Orbital Sciences' track record extremely poor? Something like half their rockets fail and they give nothing but excuses. Their Taurus rocket had a 33% failure rate http://www.cnet.com/news/nasa-...

    It may be time to look into how they manage their company.

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  6. Re:There's a reason why... by Chocolate+Teapot · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yep. There's no such thing as a free launch.

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  7. What I want to know... by Type44Q · · Score: 5, Funny

    What I want to know is if there's any truth to the rumors that Musk was seen leaving the area with an empty Stinger launch on one shoulder and a shit-eating grin on his face...

  8. OT by sootman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dear Slashdot,

    I fail to see how the 13-year-old story about game design, "A 'Vow of Chastity' For Game Designers", is a related story, as indicated in the panel below the story between the "previous story" and "next story" links. Seriously, WTF? Less than worthless.

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  9. Video of the explosion from 3000ft by grouchomarxist · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Video of the Orbital Sciences Explosion at Wallops from a Cessna flying at 3000ft. Note that the video is pretty noisy so you'll want to turn your sound down.

  10. 40 year old engine. by Bo'Bob'O · · Score: 5, Informative

    The summery isn't quite correct. The engines aren't based on an engine from the 60s. These -are- the engines built by the soviets in the 1970s. These things are 40 years old.

    The RD-180s used by the Atlas-V are built new, despite their relationship to the abandoned Energia/Buran. The NK-33s that are used by the Antares sat for decades in a Russian warehouse.

  11. Re:That's the part that "counts" (groan) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Payload, plus collateral damage, plus market capitalization loss, plus reputation damage, plus value of future lost contracts, etc. $1B might actually be on the low side.

  12. Re:That's the part that "counts" (groan) by Megane · · Score: 5, Funny

    And I think the launch pad area might need a fresh coat of paint or something...

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  13. Rearden Rocket by PopeRatzo · · Score: 5, Interesting

    You're going to love this:

    https://twitter.com/hormiga/st...

    Another great victory for the private sector. Rocket science is hard. It's not like we've been launching rockets for half a century or anything.

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  14. Elon Musk Called it Two Years Ago by catchblue22 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Elon Musk called it two years ago in this interview.

    Musk: The results are pretty crazy. One of our competitors, Orbital Sciences, has a contract to resupply the International Space Station, and their rocket honestly sounds like the punch line to a joke. It uses Russian rocket engines that were made in the ’60s. I don’t mean their design is from the ’60s—I mean they start with engines that were literally made in the ’60s and, like, packed away in Siberia somewhere.

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  15. Re:Designs from what? by DerekLyons · · Score: 5, Insightful

    By the average standards of the modern space technology, Russian space hardware ranks as 2040 design. I know that sounds strange

    No, it doesn't sound strange - it sounds like what it is, which is complete and utter bullshit. They have a few things ahead of everyone else, they have a few things on par with everyone else, and they have a lot of things that are in fact engineering time capsules from the 50's, 60's, 70's, and 80's.

  16. Re:That's the part that "counts" (groan) by Luckyo · · Score: 5, Informative

    You know, it's that same old regurgitated bullshit. And it smells like it.

    Do you know WHY they use 40+ year old Russian engines? Because they are better than anything West has to offer.

    Let me underscore that part for you
    _anything_ that West has to offer.

    They have closed circuit rocket engine technology. By definition, that is going to be at least about 15% more efficient than any open circuit that is the only technology west has in orbital lifting rocket engines. Thanks for private corporation known as Lockheed Martin, that didn't believe that closed circuit was possible to do until Russians literally put a working engine in their lab and test fired it for them in 2000s. Because it was too inefficient to research the technology in more detail. Russians had to blow up something like 30 rockets to get it right. Tolerance limits on closed circuit are apparently far more tight, and that's not just the engine but all the relevant systems.

    Private sector is really good at developing off existing base level development to practical development, but it's utterly terrible at actual base level development that is needed for practical development, but doesn't result in practical applications on its own. That's why much if not most if that kind of development is done in universities and government labs. And rocket engines are in desperate need of base research right now because of long term lack of funding. This has nothing to do with "inefficiency, bureaucratic bloat, corrupt contractors" or anything of a sorts. It has everything to do with the fact that they were given no funding to develop baseline research for better rocket engine technology.

    Private corporations will have to blow up their share of rockets to get it right. They're banking on better simulation software in existence, but that can't simulate everything due to sheer amount of unknowns or uncertainties when it comes to rocket science. That's why rocket science is HARD, even by modern standards.