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Verizon Launches Tech News Site That Bans Stories On US Spying

blottsie writes: The most-valuable, second-richest telecommunications company in the world is bankrolling a technology news site called SugarString.com. The publication, which is now hiring its first full-time editors and reporters, is meant to rival major tech websites like Wired and the Verge while bringing in a potentially giant mainstream audience to beat those competitors at their own game.

There's just one catch: In exchange for the major corporate backing, tech reporters at SugarString are expressly forbidden from writing about American spying or net neutrality around the world, two of the biggest issues in tech and politics today.

145 comments

  1. "there are no comments" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ...that's because this site is being spied on...and delivered through an internet pipe the size of a straw...

    1. Re:"there are no comments" by JMJimmy · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's the perfect example of why those who distribute media/news should never have been allowed to be the same ones who create the media/news.

    2. Re:"there are no comments" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So I'm not allowed to have both a modem and a blog? It is just a question of scale. Your mistake is thinking that we need fewer outlets (and internet providers), when in fact we need more, billions more.

    3. Re:"there are no comments" by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Not what I was saying at all. The thing we *can't* have enough of is the infrastructure - it's simply too costly/messy to have multiple last mile providers. What's needed is functional separation. One regulated last mile provider that only deals with maintaining/upgrading hardware and does nothing else - they do not sell any end product to the user. Then the providers of internet connectivity, working with their own back-haul/peering/customer support/etc sell to the end user. They pay a regulated fee to the last mile provider and everything else is up to them in terms of levels of service/price/policies/etc. The only thing they can't do is own content. Any other company that is arm's length from them is free to own/produce content to their heart's content. 2 levels of separation is all you need to create a relatively fair and highly competitive environment. Personally I'd add a 6 month exclusivity limit on new content before it has to be openly licensed to anyone and everyone at a competitive rate.

      We have a tiny portion of it implemented in Canada with IISPs and it works beautifully, except that the last mile providers are still selling connectivity so they find every way possible to interfere with the IISPs who are taking their customers away by the hundreds of thousands. If the 5-6 incumbents were forced to play by IISP rules and sell off their last mile the 500-600 IISPs would thrive. What's starting to happen though is that instead of continuing to invest in their offerings they're all getting distracted by content production/selling. Problem is, none of them offer enough content to be worthwhile and they keep getting stuck in legal battles because they try and do "tied selling" and just about every anti-competitive thing you can think of to try and force people into their "bundle" to get their "exclusive content". Meanwhile, we all just sit around and torrent or sneak into Netflix US waiting for the madness to end.

    4. Re:"there are no comments" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The thing we *can't* have enough of is the infrastructure - it's simply too costly/messy to have multiple last mile providers.

      Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. A million times wrong. We lost internet and phones at work because our neighbor's fence company dug through our T1s. Now we have a Comcast business account in addition (a trifling cost). We're a small biz with about 100 people but the redundancy is important. Five to twenty years from now, that might be even more crucial.

      Letting your company fall off the net due to a single point of failure??? Sorry Charlie. Yes we want multiple locations and have cell phones (more redundancy). Presently we have copper (T1s), cable, and someday we'll have fiber lines too. It is nothing and the mass of these wires doesn't even approach the mass of a single wire of our three-phase power (AND NEVER WILL since we got thousands of amps).

      Communication is too crucial to give sole power to one entity. As to your issues with ISPs providing content, that is your hangup. I'm a cordcutter without Netflix or Hulu. I'm drowning in content even just from HD OTA. Plus you wrote me a post too - that's free content, THANKS!!! I don't lose sleep over these giants grasping at straws (though I do my best to fight IP laws and to give them none of my economic resources).

    5. Re:"there are no comments" by mgcarley · · Score: 1

      For your use case you're right, but this is not necessary to every single Internet subscriber in every single home.

      Also, your neighbours fence company was stupid for digging without calling/planning/checking locates etc first and at least in some states (like Illinois) would have had an ass-kicking from the city.

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    6. Re:"there are no comments" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FYI, it is in Illinois. They did call. There was about six inches of difference between the fence line and the T1s (actually, a 50-pair cable if memory serves). There were no recriminations and I doubt the city was ever involved. AT&T came out within hours to patch things up.

      As to households, I think the big benefit is being able to drop providers since they play the intro-pricing game too much.

      Also, I'd be far more interested in a TCP/IP version of OTARD to put the burdern of proof on the parties that want to stop cabling/connections. We also need to both restore privacy protections and make it practical for anybody to sell data/internet access (IMO).

  2. That's pathetic by dciman · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Talk about a straw man.

    "Mainstream" tech sites are bad enough already.

    1. Re:That's pathetic by Thanshin · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Mainstream" tech sites are bad enough already.

      But, "Mainstream" sites are too ... ... waaaait a second.

    2. Re:That's pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Luckily for us, Slashdot is guaranteed to be unbiased, especially with regard to stories about potential competitors.

    3. Re:That's pathetic by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This. Many times this.

      I mean, look at the shit Gawker has been pulling recently.

      So many people are pissed off with them enough that they have been getting advertisers to jump ship, which many have done already.
      Gawker has lost millions off it. What did they do in reply to that fact?
      Gawker insulted said ex-advertisers quite openly and have done so several times since it has all happened.

      All of those other sites will be next. I legit hope Gawker dies.
      And I hope this service dies before it even gets anywhere.

    4. Re:That's pathetic by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, if it were not for the news about these restrictions, no one would ever have heard of or cared about SugarString.com.

  3. Random companies entering the news business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even Western Digital is doing it. What gives?

    1. Re:Random companies entering the news business by daremonai · · Score: 1

      The news business nowadays is such a gravy train, who wouldn't want to get in on it?

    2. Re:Random companies entering the news business by dablow · · Score: 2

      Basically they are trying to diversify into everything in order to survive and (hopefully) increase their market cap. For example WD is best known for their line of hard disks for consumers (not sure how much, if any, of the server market they have, don't recall seeing a wd logo in a looong time). Cloud storage risks to make the concept of a local hard disk obsolete almost overnight (Microsoft already announced unlimited storage with One drive).

    3. Re:Random companies entering the news business by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      It sort of us. It's not very revenue-rich, but there's a lot of value to your typical business in being able to officially publish things that help shape discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if most newspapers moved to operating at a (smallish) loss, owned by people from outside industries by the end of the decade.

    4. Re:Random companies entering the news business by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      I think they just realized that, like people who create parking pages with ads, showing fluff news with lots of ads = good revenue

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    5. Re:Random companies entering the news business by michrech · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Until we all have extremely high-speed internet connections in our homes, the local HDD will not be obsolete. As that isn't happening anytime soon (in the US, at least), I don't think Seagate / WD have anything to worry about.

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    6. Re:Random companies entering the news business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

      Yeah man, because data in the cloud is not on hard disks, it's written to the sky by magic clouds. Thet's why it's called cloud storage. I also want everyone and their dog to have access to my data, because I hate the privacy I have left. And trust me, cloud services will be compromised. NSA has to be able to get in, so others wil leventually get in also. If not anyone else, then some insider. It's all taken care of by underpayed indian H1B.. umm.. slaves, so you just toss 50 bucks their way and the secret password somehow slips from their lips.

    7. Re:Random companies entering the news business by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Until we all have extremely high-speed internet connections in our homes, the local HDD will not be obsolete. As that isn't happening anytime soon (in the US, at least), I don't think Seagate / WD have anything to worry about.

      I don't know about that. The network guys at the company I have worked at for the last twenty years have been preaching that entire time about the advantages of an X-term or some other type of thin client. Any day now, all our computers are going to be replaced by them according to them.

    8. Re:Random companies entering the news business by michrech · · Score: 1

      In a business environment, maybe. Where I work, we've already converted nearly all of our open lab PC's, and all but two computer classrooms, to ZeroClients (in our case, devices from Wyse). We're now looking at which faculty/staff can be moved to such a setup.

      At home? Not a chance. This will require the same network speeds, found in businesses, in our homes, and for those connections to cost the same (or less) than what we're *all* paying now.

      I guess the above was a long-winded way to say, the guys you work with are morons if they think this is happening, in the home, in the near future.

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  4. Hipsta mode activated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://sugarstring.com/about/

    1. Re:Hipsta mode activated by GameboyRMH · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of the gratuitous bong-rip philosophy you see on Ashton Kutcher's news site A+, which is bizarrely one of the most-viewed websites in the US.

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    2. Re:Hipsta mode activated by Megane · · Score: 2

      And what a stupid name, too. All I can say is that when I see the two words "sugar" and "string", one of the things I do NOT think about is tech news. Or any kind of news, for that matter.

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    3. Re:Hipsta mode activated by kelemvor4 · · Score: 2

      Reminds me of the gratuitous bong-rip philosophy you see on Ashton Kutcher's news site A+, which is bizarrely one of the most-viewed websites in the US.

      Never heard of it before.

    4. Re:Hipsta mode activated by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

      Hosted by these folks, obviously.
      http://i.imgur.com/hKJEHBj.png

      .

    5. Re:Hipsta mode activated by An+ominous+Cow+art · · Score: 1

      Sugerstring theory isn't even experimentally verifiable!

    6. Re:Hipsta mode activated by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

      I myself only heard about it from an article making fun of it:

      http://www.cracked.com/quick-f...

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      "When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
    7. Re:Hipsta mode activated by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      I myself only heard about it from an article making fun of it:

      http://www.cracked.com/quick-f...

      Thanks, that was downright hilarious. I think the idea posited by cracked that a+ is a gag is likely to be accurate.

    8. Re:Hipsta mode activated by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think of Twizzlers.

    9. Re:Hipsta mode activated by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the gratuitous bong-rip philosophy you see on Ashton Kutcher's news site A+, which is bizarrely one of the most-viewed websites in the US.

      Never heard of it before.

      And who or what is Ashton Kutcher?

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    10. Re:Hipsta mode activated by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of the gratuitous bong-rip philosophy you see on Ashton Kutcher's news site A+, which is bizarrely one of the most-viewed websites in the US.

      Never heard of it before.

      And who or what is Ashton Kutcher?

      He's an American actor. Did a tv program called "that 70's show". I think he does chick flick type movies now, not really sure.

  5. And? by pla · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And I care about one more crappy corporate-controlled portal site why? Other than the "will they set up a GeoCities page next"-esque shock-value that any company in 2014 still believes their customers give the least damn about their ISP's home page, of course.

    If Verizon doesn't want news about the ways the intelligence community and Verizon conspire to rape us all, hey, their portal. And if I want actual news, hey, not their portal. It all balances out.

    1. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And I care about one more crappy corporate-controlled portal site why?

      Not really any reason for you to care about them, but they sure as hell aren't going to inform their readers of their censorship so I don't mind if everyone else runs stories about Verizon being corrupt. It saves me the trouble of having to explain to people I care about why they shouldn't use Verizon.

    2. Re:And? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From their "About us" page : "SugarString publishes thoughtful tech-focused stories that track humanity’s climb towards the new next."

      I'd say, given the absence of the forementioned critical topics, it would be more apt to describe humanity's direction more as a descent than a climb.
      The "new next" is swiftly becoming a dystopia in the face of "OMG - think of the children, punish the terrorists, we are the exceptional tribe" trash that we're fed on a daily basis.

    3. Re:And? by wooferhound · · Score: 2

      Go to SugarString.com for sugarcoated news

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    4. Re:And? by kelemvor4 · · Score: 1

      And I care about one more crappy corporate-controlled portal site why? Other than the "will they set up a GeoCities page next"-esque shock-value that any company in 2014 still believes their customers give the least damn about their ISP's home page, of course. If Verizon doesn't want news about the ways the intelligence community and Verizon conspire to rape us all, hey, their portal. And if I want actual news, hey, not their portal. It all balances out.

      TFA made it sound like they were hiring "reporters" (sounded to me more like bloggers) who are actually writing content rather than running a portal.

  6. Gooooooooood Morning Verizon! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Adrian Cronauer: RIGHT! In... in Saigon today, according to official sources, nothing actually happened. One thing that didn't officially happen was a bomb didn't officially explode at 1430 hours, unofficially destroying Jimmy Wah's cafe.

    Sgt. Major Dickerson: [to censor] Get him out of there!

    Adrian Cronauer: Three men were unofficially wounded, and two men whose identities are not known at this time...

    Sgt. Major Dickerson: [to censor as both are trying to get into the locked studio] Break the goddamn door down!

    Adrian Cronauer: ...the fire department responded, which we believe to be unofficial at this present moment...

    Sgt. Major Dickerson: [bursting into engineering room and barks to engineer] Turn it off! Now!

    Adrian Cronauer: I just want to think that you should...

    [the VU needles rest on their pins as the console goes dark... Cronauer removes his headphones and pushes mic boom aside]

  7. No spy stories or net neutrality stories by byteherder · · Score: 5, Interesting

    That is like making a crime website but not reporting on murders and robberies.

    1. Re:No spy stories or net neutrality stories by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That is like making a crime website but not reporting on murders and robberies that the company committed.

      FTFY

    2. Re:No spy stories or net neutrality stories by flopsquad · · Score: 1

      Best AC FTFY I have ever seen. Hats off to you, brave coward.

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    3. Re:No spy stories or net neutrality stories by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      This sounds like more like the beginning of official "state media" to me.

    4. Re:No spy stories or net neutrality stories by nbauman · · Score: 1

      That is like making a crime website but not reporting on murders and robberies that the company committed.

      FTFY

      All newspapers are like that. A.J. Liebling said that in one of the first stories he ever wrote, he said that "a Silvercup bakery truck had been in an accident." When the story came out, it said that "a bakery truck had been in an accident." Slivercup is an advertiser.

  8. It's in their own slogan by Thanshin · · Score: 1

    "SugarString publishes thoughtful tech-focused stories that track humanity’s climb towards the new next."

    Well, they want to be part of that climb towards the new next.

    Nobody said the new next was not going to be a shitty place.

    Now I wonder what's the official age at which one can start laughing at younger people for the shitty world they're going to inherit.

    1. Re:It's in their own slogan by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Now I wonder what's the official age at which one can start laughing at younger people for the shitty world they're going to inherit.

      The point at which you have less of your adult left in it than you've already lived.

      Anything before that and you're stuck with that realization for a long time.

      Now, get off my damned lawn, and go enjoy your dystopian future, suckers.

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    2. Re:It's in their own slogan by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Or you realize that Mrs. Robinson has died.

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    3. Re:It's in their own slogan by judoguy · · Score: 1
      That's just like the term "progressive". I know people that consider "progressive" to be the ultimate compliment.

      Actual conversation: "Oh, I can't believe those neighbors turned out to be such jerks. They seemed so progressive!"

      Progressive taxes, progressive politics, etc. Never real thought about to *where* are we progressing.

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    4. Re:It's in their own slogan by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Well lets see. Normally when one climbs, one reaches an area smaller than the one below, with longer ways to fall, and less oxygen to maintain proper life function and maintain a clear head and focus....yes...yes their analogy works fine.

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    5. Re:It's in their own slogan by TheCarp · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of this Democrat who came around knocking on doors. Of course she immediately assumed I was a republican when I told her I wasn't voting for her candidate, that is until I mentioned my support for the green party candidate, which clearly annoyed her even more.

      "Well I hope you at least are going to support keeping our state sales tax where it is" (there was a question about lowering it back to where it was a few years back), to which I looked her in the eye and said "Well, the sales tax is fundamentally pretty regressive anyway, don't you think"

      Oh the scowl she gave me..... there really ARE some things money can't buy.

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
    6. Re:It's in their own slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I can't imagine why people might think that "progressive" is a complement...

      Progressive
      adjective
      * favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform
      * making progress toward better conditions
      * characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement
      noun
      * a person who is progressive or who favors progress or reform

      Progress
      noun
      * developmental activity in science, technology, etc., especially with reference to the commercial opportunities created thereby or to the promotion of the material well-being of the public through the goods, techniques, or facilities created
      * advancement in general
      * growth or development; continuous improvement
      * the development of an individual or society in a direction considered more beneficial than and superior to the previous level

      Synonyms
      1. advance, progression. 4. increase; betterment. 11. proceed; develop, improve, grow, increase
      Antonyms
      1. regression. 11. regress

      Yep... Sounds horrible! How *dare someone be in favor of improving the state of things?! /s

    7. Re:It's in their own slogan by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Nobody said the new next was not going to be a shitty place.

      True, but could it be any shittier than the sentence "SugarString publishes thoughtful tech-focused stories that track humanity's climb towards the new next."?

    8. Re:It's in their own slogan by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      That's just like the term "progressive". I know people that consider "progressive" to be the ultimate compliment.

      Actual conversation: "Oh, I can't believe those neighbors turned out to be such jerks. They seemed so progressive!"

      Progressive taxes, progressive politics, etc. Never real thought about to *where* are we progressing.

      The political term "progressive" includes in its meaning the idea that humanity is (overall) on an upward, improving path.

      For example, we have outlawed slavery, given women the vote and stopped sending (Western) children out to work for 12 hours a day.

      If you are deeply conservative, then I suppose you think life was better a few hundred years ago when people grew rich from slavery, treated their wives as chattels, and liked the ability of eight year olds to climb up narrow chimneys.

      For the rest of us, the progress made is obvious.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  9. Propaganda is also what you choose not to report. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I can't wait to make a site that admits it's a propaganda site my main site for news.

  10. Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by Bob9113 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    In exchange for the major corporate backing, tech reporters at SugarString are expressly forbidden from writing about American spying or net neutrality around the world, two of the biggest issues in tech and politics today.

    You gotta admire the chutzpah. Even as they are saying to the FCC that they can be trusted with the authority to be the gatekeepers of the Internet, they put on a public display of their intent to inhibit public policy debate on the very issue of Net Neutrality itself.

    The extraordinary lack of self-consciousness is difficult to fathom. It rises to the level of, "Let them eat cake."

    1. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by NotDrWho · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Are you kidding, who do you think is giving them backing, if not the U.S. Government? Do you think it's private corporate funding that forbids them from discussing U.S. spying? This venture is about as "private" as Radio Free Europe.

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    2. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      Do you think it's private corporate funding that forbids them from discussing U.S. spying?

      If they want to do business with the government, yes.

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    3. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

      I'll be amused when Wired comes out to report about this, welcoming them to the field.

    4. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      U.S. Government spying is having a very chilling effect on U.S. tech companies abroad. It is in their financial interests to stop stories regarding any type of spying. They don't need the government to explain it to them, the bottom line is making it crystal clear.

    5. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      The extraordinary lack of self-consciousness is difficult to fathom. It rises to the level of, "Let them eat cake."

      I think you've summed it up quite nicely ... it's a sense of entitlement, and as long as we keep the unwashed masses ignorant, everything will be just fine.

      The oligarchy just needs to keep the suckers in the dark, and they can have anything they want to. And, in exchange for hiding what the government is doing (and can't censor themselves), the government will turn an eye from the shady things the corporations do.

      In all honesty, I think the same solution might apply here as did to Marie Antoinette.

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    6. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by Jawnn · · Score: 1

      In exchange for the major corporate backing, tech reporters at SugarString are expressly forbidden from writing about American spying or net neutrality around the world, two of the biggest issues in tech and politics today.

      You gotta admire the chutzpah. Even as they are saying to the FCC that they can be trusted with the authority to be the gatekeepers of the Internet, they put on a public display of their intent to inhibit public policy debate on the very issue of Net Neutrality itself.

      The extraordinary lack of self-consciousness is difficult to fathom. It rises to the level of, "Let them eat cake."

      I say it's completely fathomable. It was the inevitable result of decades of policy aimed at placing more an more power in the hands of corporations. First, they convinced a naive and gullible electorate that "...government is the problem..." and that tax breaks for the "job creators" would make unicorns real. Now, when the Internet, as a medium, threatens to foster genuine public discussion about such policy, they want to censor that too. No surprise it all.

    7. Re:Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

      You gotta admire the chutzpah. Even as they are saying to the FCC that they can be trusted with the authority to be the gatekeepers of the Internet, they put on a public display of their intent to inhibit public policy debate on the very issue of Net Neutrality itself.

      It's not chutzpah, this just shows you just how solidly they have the political system locked up. They have the politicians and regulators so firmly bought and paid for that they are not worried about those stooges one tiny bit, D or R. Good hell, they're even going after Attorneys General with lobbyists to stifle lawsuits.

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  11. It's not a news site by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The most-valuable, second-richest telecommunications company in the world is bankrolling a technology propaganda site called SugarString.com

    FTFY

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    SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
  12. We don't need another infomercial site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    So they are not actually a tech-news site at all, but a mega-corp propaganda / infomercial / advertising site. "Buy this new gadget we just made to mine your personal data, pay no attention to that EULA behind the boilerplate..."

    1. Re:We don't need another infomercial site by CaptainDork · · Score: 2

      ... a mega-corp propaganda / infomercial / advertising site.

      I scanned the comments to see if anyone picked up on this.

      Verizon is a retail revenue generator, not a news organization.

      Their portal is going to be an ad site.

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      It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
  13. Relax Citizen ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's OK, everything is still shiny ... look, we have pretty buttons, and widgets, and apps ... why no, we've never heard of spying or net neutrality ... your government is here to serve you ... the corporations are your friends, we're here to help... we've always been at war with East Anglia ... War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery.

    Fucking Pathetic.

    They're basically starting the campaign of disinformation and leaving out the bits of reality which are inconvenient to them.

    I sincerely hope people either boycott them, or make damned sure to either pollute their comment boards with the stuff they're hiding, or otherwise publicly shame them.

    A "Tech News" site which isn't allowed to discuss some of the most important news about tech going on today is a horrible thing, and do not deserve any support from anybody.

    Screw you Verizon. I hope every other tech news site spends time pointing out the crap you're doing and this blows up in your face.

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    1. Re:Relax Citizen ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Remembers Mars Attacks? This is about that subtle:

      The corporations are your friends! Do not fight us, we are your friends! Do not fight us, we are your friends!

    2. Re:Relax Citizen ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Brawndo got what plants crave!

  14. Nothing but Verizon Propoganda . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Verizon is gaining rapidly on the NSA in the race to see who becomes the biggest evil on the internet.

    1. Re:Nothing but Verizon Propoganda . . . by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      the difference is that verizon cant really do anything to harm me, the NSA can. sure verizon (and pretty much all telcos are evil) but without the NSA they cant hurt you, you dont have to do business with them

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    2. Re:Nothing but Verizon Propoganda . . . by MitchDev · · Score: 2

      They have a long way to go to match Comcast.....

  15. Sadly there is a market by DarkOx · · Score: 2

    There are lots of Government technical workers, who probably would like to read more tech news but have security clearance related fears. There is much FUD, possibly legitimate FUD don't know, don't have a clearance myself but have been interviewed many times when friends have sought clearances.

    Some of them really are afraid clicking the wrong Slashdot story while taking a break at work could cost them. Frankly I think the bigger issue is the government though police are so frightened they even make an issue of such a thing but, it is what is.

    So now I guess Verizon with profit from so new ad revenue.

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    1. Re:Sadly there is a market by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Some of them really are afraid clicking the wrong Slashdot story while taking a break at work could cost them.

      This is a nice example of self-correction. The wild abuses they commit have put them in a position of being unable to effectively keep up in their field.

      On the other hand, of course later we'll find out what sweetheart deal from the FCC Verizon got out of this, but it won't be covered on sillystring, so those same government workers will be protected from learning much about their own employer's corruption.

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    2. Re:Sadly there is a market by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      There are lots of Government technical workers, who probably would like to read more tech news but have security clearance related fears.

      That's pretty pathetic ... if you need to be shielded from the truth in order to maintain your security clearance this is pretty much where we're headed.

      The government doesn't want smart, informed people working for them ... they want clueless idiots who will keep their head down and simply not become aware of the kinds of things their jobs lead to.

      Papers please, comrade. Do not ask questions, just obey.

      Obedience will be rewarded. All Hail Hydra!

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    3. Re:Sadly there is a market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen the government's list of questionable personality traits in government employees. (Used to work for a certain agency.) Money problems. Hostility. It's a wonder there is anyone who is qualified to work for the government. If I remember right, one of the traits was someone who stands up for privacy, but I'm not sure of that one. It might have been phrased differently.

  16. Which reminds me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I found NSA intrusion long before it became headline news.
    Noticing probing on the firewall I did traceroute look ups through multiple paths to define a pattern of problem servers.
    When a common server was discovered I fired up the Robtex Swiss Army Knife Internet Tool.
    Cross referencing the trees and information and records of servers I saw a former employer server was the problem "leaky insecure"
    Interestingly it was being hosted on NSA servers. In other words the internet is hosted by dot mil and nsa servers.
    A side note is just writing this post induced a buffer pointer over run, coincidence? : )

  17. Do we applaud them for being honest? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or do we scold them for projecting their sponsor's bias like everybody else?

  18. [citation needed] by JoeRobe · · Score: 2

    Not that I don't believe it, but the only link in the story that directly refers to the explicit ban is a picture of an email that one guy sent to another. It says that he likes working at sugarstring, but spying and net neutrality are verboten topics.

    Anyone have a contract or other bit of more concrete evidence? Or is this story solely based upon the image of an email?

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    1. Re:[citation needed] by tomhath · · Score: 1

      I also notice that on the SugarString website one of the front page stories is about anonymous browsing with Anonabox, so the DailyDot article is very suspect.

  19. US competing with China is censorship, lol by ltorvalds11 · · Score: 1

    after reading this article I don't think China is the only one good at censorship, hehe

    1. Re:US competing with China is censorship, lol by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Ah, but people will make the counter-claim that a) this isn't the government, it's private industry on private property (sorta), so it's OK, and b) nobody will drag you off in the night(*) so it isn't really censorship.

      See what they did there, comrade?

      Now get back to work, or you'll be reported to the central authority.

      (*) But we may have to do some parallel construction on your ass for having done so. We can't have the citizens getting uppity and thinking they still have a right to exercise free speech and independent thinking.

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    2. Re:US competing with China is censorship, lol by ltorvalds11 · · Score: 0

      Ah, but people will make the counter-claim that a) this isn't the government, it's private industry on private property (sorta), so it's OK, and b) nobody will drag you off in the night(*) so it isn't really censorship.

      See what they did there, comrade?

      Now get back to work, or you'll be reported to the central authority.

      (*) But we may have to do some parallel construction on your ass for having done so. We can't have the citizens getting uppity and thinking they still have a right to exercise free speech and independent thinking.

      you are funny :)

  20. hipsters. I hate New York hipsters. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They should be raped with a rabid weasel and burned to the ground just for that.

  21. as the old addage goes by nimbius · · Score: 4, Interesting

    If you want to know who is in charge, Find the person you're not allowed to talk about. Being a recipient of the controversial retroactive immunity for spying, as well as a contentious and vociferous opponent of net neutrality, Its fairly clear who cracks the whip. So if the arguably two largest concerns facing the internet and tech community are off-limits for SugarString, how is it they intend to beat the competition 'at their own game' if the competition offers in depth, comprehensive coverage and analysis?

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  22. Re: ISP Home Page by rnturn · · Score: 2

    ``any company in 2014 still believes their customers give the least damn about their ISP's home page''

    You mean my ISP has one? I never thought to look figuring it'd be about as useful as the old AOL web site.

    But back to the topic at hand: Way to go guys... shoot your credibility to kingdom come right out of the gate by placing limits on what will be covered. You might as well add a subtitle: "Cheery Verizon-approved News".

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  23. So its not news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So they're not starting new site, they are starting propaganda site.

  24. Welcome to the People's Republic of the USA by alexkaskasoli · · Score: 0

    Because the party cares about you.

  25. One more reason to ask.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...why would ANYone use Verizon? Their service is shit, their attitude is shit.

    1. Re:One more reason to ask.... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      sadly, verizon service (cell service) is the only one worth a damn in most places Im at. sprint never works, att works about 40% of the places im in. this is true for many people i know

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  26. Is it even handed? by tomhath · · Score: 1

    From what I can tell the policy was expressed in an email TFA references: "Downside is there are two verboten topics (spying and net neutrality)"

    Every media outlet has an editorial policy that you need to know, whether it's New York Times of Fox News. I'm kind of okay with a Verizon backed site not covering those topics, since nobody would believe anything they reported anyway. Plus there is plenty coverage on those subjects elsewhere.

  27. Re: ISP Home Page by NatasRevol · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I can't believe no one is talking about how to hack the site to allow those sort of news articles.

    I miss the bad old days.

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  28. Dim hope in the darkness by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I have this vague hope that this is so that we can have tech news instead of political journalism, but it's Verizon.

  29. Can't get to it from Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can anyone else on Comcast get to it?

    1. Re:Can't get to it from Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I just get some message about my attempt to access the page being tracked.

    2. Re:Can't get to it from Comcast by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      Can anyone else on Comcast get to it?

      I can, works just fine. Not that I'll ever go there again.

  30. So don't start a news website by Roodvlees · · Score: 1

    If you've shown to be against public interest why start a news site at all? Should the point of a news site not be to inform the readers? But we already know Verizon will act against everyone else's interests, so why consider anything they say on any subject?

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    1. Re:So don't start a news website by tomhath · · Score: 0

      True, but my point is that you could say the same about every news site. MSNBC? Huffington Post? Fox News? Daily Kos? They all have an agenda.

  31. Net Neutrality Case-In-Point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wish I had mod points.

  32. Why is this bad? by MobyDisk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These are issues that Verizon cannot be neutral on, so it makes perfect ethical sense for them to recuse themselves from discussing such topics. Don't lambast them for it.

    The real questions here are:
    1) Who are the backers and why did they stipulate this requirement?
    2) Why is Verizon starting a news & pop culture site in a time when such sites are prevalent and unprofitable?

    1. Re:Why is this bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Of course we're going to lambast them on it, hell, I'd hoist them on their own petard as well.

      They cannot open a tech news site and then block 90% of what's really tech news, and in today's society, government spying, corporate spying, corporate thievery, corporate ass-hattery, government agents committing acts of treason are 90% of the tech news.

      Fuck em, they deserve every derisive, contempt filled response they get, and probably more than they get. They deserve to have their entire stack of corporate officers, board of directors and major share-holders spending time in jail for the treasonous acts they've committed.

    2. Re:Why is this bad? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      A propaganda site doesn't have to be profitable.

    3. Re:Why is this bad? by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      They cannot open a tech news site and then block 90% of what's really tech news...

      Agreed!

      ...are 90% of the tech news.

      While the topic riles me up too, this is not true even on Slashdot. Such exaggeration does not help.

    4. Re:Why is this bad? by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      It is going to be difficult to make it into a good propaganda site if they don't post articles on the topic they are trying to propagate.

    5. Re:Why is this bad? by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Verizon, being an ISP, has an interest in not discussing net neutrality. No neutrality means they get to take some comfortable money from "content providers" to fast-lane their data. As a side-effect, maybe they can delay expensive network upgrades even more so that these deals become critical for the content providers.
      The spying thing isn't so much directly related to their business -- but they do allow the government to spy on their networks, so there's a high probability of a spying story coming out that reflects negatively on Verizon due to them being complicit in it. That's the PR angle, but Verizon might also be concerned with their relationship with the three-letter agencies. I wouldn't say they are necessarily "in bed" with the agencies, but they certainly don't want to sour relations.

  33. It's in their own slogan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    about 80? Then they know they don't have to live in it for too long. I'm still too young to laugh, I'm going to be on this forsaken ball for a while.

  34. Sadly there is a market by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Good god. If they fear of getting fired because of reading news they should just quit on the spot. I have a kid and a wife to feed, but i'm not going to stop being a curious human being. That must feel like being a slave. I'm sorry for your friends, and hate them at the same time for not standing up for themselves. If everyone just did it they couldn't fire them all, eh?

  35. Invade every story, post real news... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    After the millionth time this happens, they will walk away shaking their heads, or go bankrupt paying schills to hide / delete inconvenient posts.

    Hell, use bots to spam the "inconvenient" truths to them.

  36. Re: ISP Home Page by gstoddart · · Score: 2

    I can't believe no one is talking about how to hack the site to allow those sort of news articles.

    These days, the first rule of hacktivism is you do not talk about hacktivism.

    You should totally be a law abiding citizen and not attempt in anyway to punish or otherwise mess with this site. Advocating any form of illegal operation would be a completely bad idea ... *wink* *wink*.

    As good citizens we should accept that the corporations know what's best for us, and it would be improper to become vigilantes.

    No sir, not even a little. Unless you really have to.

    In which case, wear a condom, ensure you're wearing clean underwear, and make sure that any packets trace back to China or Russia so they get the blame.

    Oh, fuck it ... burn it to the ground, boys.

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  37. Meaning by MitchDev · · Score: 4, Insightful

    SugarString.com is USELESS and should be ostracised as a propganda site, NOT a news site.

    In fact, it should be legally barred from calling itself a "news" site.

    1. Re:Meaning by Xyrus · · Score: 3, Insightful

      SugarString.com is USELESS and should be ostracised as a propganda site, NOT a news site.

      In fact, it should be legally barred from calling itself a "news" site.

      Well, if Fox News gets to call itself a "news" site then that's sets a pretty low bar to clear, don't you think?

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    2. Re:Meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a Wordpress site. Have at it: https://sugarstring.wordpress.com/wp-login.php

    3. Re:Meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's why they aren't in Canada.
      They've been trying to get the CRTC to change its rule on Fraudulent News Stories and errata....
      But the CRTC has remained solid on the rules that bind OUR news Reporters, even if imperfect and problematic.

    4. Re:Meaning by KermodeBear · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I see far less fear mongering and fraudulent reporting on Fox than I do on MSNBC or CBS. I'm not saying that any of those networks are great - they're not - but when Canada allows Al-Jazeera and declines to carry Fox, one does start to wonder if the real issue is reporting and not simply politics.

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    5. Re:Meaning by Uberbah · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately I see far less fear mongering and fraudulent reporting on Fox than I do on MSNBC or CBS.

      Then you don't watch Fox. Name something from either of those networks that comes close to the Fox penchant for labeling Republicans in scandal as Democrats, or using footage from an old Glenn Beck rally to make it look like large crowds turned out for a newer one.

    6. Re:Meaning by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look up Leland Yee on CNBC, CBS, or CNN.

      He is a California senator that was busted for running a gun smuggling ring and trying to ban legal sales of guns in the state in order to make his trafficking more lucrative -- all of this just last year.

      Nope, all those networks were too busy reporting on bridge traffic to run a story on a fucking Senator trafficking guns to felons. Disgusting.

  38. So, kind of like old times by istartedi · · Score: 1

    So, kind of like William Randolph Hearst, but without the charisma and Hollywood starlets at parties?

    So, kind of like papers that actually had "Democrat" in the name of the paper because, you know, they were going to slant everything that way and made no bones about it.

    So, "Yawwwwn", because it's a company rag (except that it's online so there's no actual rag) and everybody knows it.

    Now, if only we were getting a decent education and actually being taught how to think instead of how to use Office. We'd understand all of this, and be able to analyze the news ourselves based in part on the source.

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  39. Make Them Pay by JimSadler · · Score: 1

    Verizon wants to be a censor and strikes to limit conversations it considers damaging to their position. What they seek is to suppress free speech. Since that violates public interest it is time to revoke their business license. Now instead of going to work they can stay home and try to govern the rubber ducks in their bath water.

  40. Control the Tubes = Control the Message by MarkvW · · Score: 1

    That's what net neutrality is all about, and why it is so important.

  41. Who thought that would work ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    " tech reporters at SugarString are expressly forbidden from writing about American spying or net neutrality"

    So we're opening up a Fast Food place but you can't order a Burger with Fries....
    Yeah, That'll work......not

  42. Re: ISP Home Page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh, fuck it ... burn it to the ground, boys.

    No need. This will die - to the sound of silence. Who will bother reading a new "tech news" site? Only the nerds that hang around on other tech news sites. And then they will spread the word and a following will build. But not this time. The nerds have been warned - censorship ensures that the site won't be worth visiting! They won't cover "the next Snowden" or the next NSA/CIA messup. So we won't even go there. Perhaps they'll cover the next smartphone - but every tech site will do that.

  43. US competing with China is censorship, lol by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... China is the only one good at censorship ...

    Several countries have 'great firewalls', including Australia. The Australian government just raised a plan to make the ISPs run the firewall for them. This would allow many, many people to know what is being banned. So it may be limited to piracy web-sites while the government continues blocking the real pro-crime web-sites. This is after the iiNet case where the courts decided ISPs don't have protect the intellectual property of others.

  44. lest we forget by epine · · Score: 1


    @namespace url(http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml);

    @-moz-document domain("sugarstring.com") {

    body:before {
      content: "Forbidden from covering American spying or net neutrality by Verizon's corporate sponsorship";
      color: #FF0000;
      display: block;
      text-align: center;
      font-size: 3vmax;
      padding-top: 10vh !important;
      padding-bottom: 10vh !important;
    }

    }

  45. self reply by epine · · Score: 1

    Display:block doesn't actually work. It's a vestige from my first pass (long ago) that I forgot to remove when it proved impotent.

    The script just adds an angry red banner at the top of every page served.

  46. http://www.allthingsnow.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.allthingsnow.com

  47. This is a corporate news site. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It gives me the giggles that this is on here, being discuseed.

  48. Absolutely by BigSlowTarget · · Score: 1

    [Comment redacted by Verizon, thank you for using the Verizon wireless network]

  49. Re:hipsters. I hate New York hipsters. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    I might be wrong, but I'm fairly sure I watched a porno set on that roof yesterday, sort of a mini gang bang. I just wonder whether the hip young things were the ones involved?

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  50. UGH!!! Time to get a CREDO phone. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh No! Time to Get a CREDO phone.

  51. Re: ISP Home Page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stay strong and enough with this mischief talk, comrad.