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HP Unveils Industrial 3D Printer 10X Faster, 50% Cheaper Than Current Systems

Lucas123 writes HP today announced an 3D industrial printer that it said will be half the cost of current additive manufacturing systems while also 10 times faster, enabling production parts to be built. The company also announced Sprout, a new immersive computing platform that combines a 23-in touch screen monitor and horizontal capacitive touch mat with a scanner, depth sensor, hi-res camera, and projector in a single desktop device. HP's Multi Jet Fusion printer will be offered to beta customers early next year and is expected to be generally available in 2016. The machine uses a print bar with 30,000 nozzles spraying 350 million drops a second of thermoplastic or other materials onto a print platform. The Multi Jet Fusion printer uses fused deposition modeling, an additive manufacturing technology first invented in 1990. the printer works by first laying down a layer of powder material across a build area. Then a fusing agent is selectively applied with the page-wide print bar. Then the same print bar applies a detailing agent at the parts edge to give high definition. The material is then exposed to an energy source that fuses it.

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  1. Since this is an HP product, by idontgno · · Score: 5, Insightful

    the thermoplastic "ink" will be the most expensive substance on Earth, by weight or volume. And protected by a DRM'd cartridge system. And declare itself "empty" at about 25% remaining, in order to "protect the printer from running dry".

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    1. Re:Since this is an HP product, by Russ1642 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And when you need more printing medium it's cheaper to just buy an entirely new printer rather than a new cartridge.

    2. Re:Since this is an HP product, by OzPeter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the thermoplastic "ink" will be the most expensive substance on Earth, by weight or volume. And protected by a DRM'd cartridge system. And declare itself "empty" at about 25% remaining, in order to "protect the printer from running dry".

      You also left out that the "ink" levels will slowly decrease over time if printer is not used.

      And that if you are out of one "color" you still won't be able to print anything at all - even if you don't need to use that "color"

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    3. Re:Since this is an HP product, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And the printer will be deliberately crippled so it can't print another printer.

    4. Re:Since this is an HP product, by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Why not? The printer is a loss leader, what's making money is the ink.

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    5. Re:Since this is an HP product, by Optic7 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Don't forget the clogging and drying up if you don't use the printer for a while, requiring buying new ink cartridges, or a whole new printer.

    6. Re:Since this is an HP product, by ClickOnThis · · Score: 2

      And the printer will be deliberately crippled so it can't print another printer.

      Why not? The printer is a loss leader, what's making money is the ink.

      Stopping the printer from printing itself is an anti-Skynet precaution.

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    7. Re:Since this is an HP product, by davester666 · · Score: 2

      at least the printer driver doesn't erase your document and corrupt your Windows install when it happens...

      there's always a bright side!

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  2. Where will decent software come from? by rolfwind · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Eh, I think the weakspot in any 3d printing will be the software. As a hobby engineer, I use Solidworks which is several thousand dollars (luckily already on some of my employer's computers so they foot the bill).

    But at home, I tried FreeCad, Cubify Invent, and several other free or cheap options and I find them invariably terrible, at least as far my limited experience can discern. FreeCad in particular, asides from UI nonintuitive issues and heaps of bugs (various cuts and operations simply disappearing for no reason), is only up to v0.14 since launching in 2002. It's like the Gnu Hurd of that genre.

    I don't see how the 3D printing revolution will remotely come to town without something decent on the software front that's $200 or less.

    *Posted this yesterday in a thread, but was too late for anyone to see it.

    1. Re:Where will decent software come from? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I'd like to see an UnrealEd-style interface for one of these 3D modeling programs.

      I've tried Maya, AutoCAD, and a couple of others, and I've not found a more intuitive interface than UnrealEd.

      Not the visual part, that's just a standard top/side/front/render quad. I'm talking about the mouse control. Click to drag. Right-click to pan/roll. Chord-click to zoom. It was nearly as intuitive as, well, playing an FPS.

      That, and the simplicity of brushes, but without the incomplete feature-set of UEd. Basically, create geometry with brushes, then "flatten" to the properly normalized triangle geometry needed for most 3D stuff. Or, hell, acute CSG might be a perfectly good way of representing things that can be made with a 3D printer. The BSP partitioner could easily "chunk" a complex model into acute CSG partitions for printing.

      This could be totally Epic (pun intended).

    2. Re:Where will decent software come from? by fustakrakich · · Score: 2

      I don't see how the 3D printing revolution will remotely come to town without something decent on the software front that's $200 or less.

      Patience... Remember when 20 meg hard drives cost 2000 dollars? Besides the high prices are necessary for keeping a very high bar of entry. There are many disincentives to allowing these things on everybody's kitchen counter top.

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    3. Re:Where will decent software come from? by mercnet · · Score: 2

      You should check out Autodesk Fusion 360 (http://fusion360.autodesk.com/about) as they have a free edition for hobbyist and monthly rental if you are commercial.

    4. Re:Where will decent software come from? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 3, Interesting

      CAD is recognized by the FSF as an area with a lack of suitable Freely-licensed software.

      Really? What is wrong with FreeCAD? It is a full parametric 3D modeling system. It can be scripted in Python. It exports industry standard STL. I find it far easier to use than AutoCAD, SolidWorks, or any other CAD program I have used. I have used it for dozens of projects, and have run into no limitations. I have also used it with a 3D printing class at an elementary school for 4th, 5th, and 6th graders. They also had no problems with it. The license is GPL.

    5. Re:Where will decent software come from? by choprboy · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well... I just got FreeCAD running last night. Been using QCad for several years and recently started OpenSCAD for some 3D modeling. So you want a new FreeCAD user's prospective?

      I have spent the last 4 nights, 3-4 hours each night, trying to build and install all the dependancies for FreeCAD v0.14 on a CentOS 6.5 box. It was an absolute nightmare. The build documentation is crap and lists multiple things as requirements that have changed to something else (i.e. PyQt4 -> PySide), dependancies claimed to be optional but are infact manditory (i.e. GtWebkit [or, as I did, get fed up and rip out the code... why in the hell do I need a download models option in the open menu? Why is git/svn/etc. demanded in an end-user executable?]), hardcoded -python2.7 version dependancies. This comes after all the mess of compiling half-a-dozen different 3D libriaries each with their own compiling problems.

      The first thing after finally getting it open.... the interface is a mish-mash of a dozen different modules with no indications of what to really use... The user has to go and learn every single one, then try to figure out what to use. Examples were installed... but who the hell knows where, there are no example libraries in the menu structure. And python? Why would a end-user want to learn Python just to create an object?

      So I try to open a pretty basic STL I made earlier in OpenSCAD (disc with some bolt holes and a flange).... it takes 60+sec to import the STL object, but atleast it looks right. Kind of have the construction tree for the object in panel, but no obvious way to edit the code. I move it a bit, rotate the object around... and then suddenly its gone with a stream of "array[-1]" errors in console... Not a good way to start.

  3. The 3D printing future is vastly underestimated by MindPrison · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Anyone smart enough, should work and WORK on this.

    The future of 3D printing is so big I can't even begin to mention it so most would understand it, but I'll give it a go:

    1) Instant repair parts anywhere in the world on demand.
    2) This is the beginning of teleportation!
    3) Instant surgical body parts to anywhere in the world on demand.
    4) Toys can be bought online, printed almost the same day, you'll pay for the consumables + design.
    5) Businesses will be able to personalize your phones/ipads almost instantly.
    6) We will build entire houses with this stuff.
    7) We will even be able to bring parts to the moon/mars/outer-space without bringing them physically by spaceship.
    8) We will even be able to print food, make the textures very similar by scanning eg. meat etc.
    9) People! This is the beginning stages of the real replicator you all know from fictional stories as star-trek etc.
    10) Insert your own idea / wish here, I can't be the only one.

    I will encourage ANY company to do this, small or big. This can only go too slow, if you ever wanted to get in on a revolution in the making, THIS IS IT!

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    1. Re:The 3D printing future is vastly underestimated by timeOday · · Score: 2
      There are plenty of ideas that are waaayyy out in front of the technology already. The important thing at this point is making a printer with enough capability at low enough cost to make significant strides towards the vision and do something useful.

      It's like the space age, people assumed getting into space (at all) was the hard part, but no, just getting people into space didn't change daily life at all, and getting to the next solar system is thousands of times harder.

    2. Re:The 3D printing future is vastly underestimated by gurps_npc · · Score: 2
      1) Totally true, but not instant.

      2) Bull. Not teleportation. Anymore than magnetism is antigravity.

      3) Not instant, but otherwise true.

      4) A little bit true.

      5) Not likely

      6) already building houses out of it. But won't - too expensive

      7) Totally true. Space applications are great.

      8) printing food is a silly idea.

      9) Replicators are hundreds, if not thousands years in the future. This is not the beginning, anymore than the printing press was the begining of the internet.

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    3. Re:The 3D printing future is vastly underestimated by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      Fuck that newfangled artsy-shmartsy technology, where's my old .45?

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    4. Re:The 3D printing future is vastly underestimated by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 2

      I expect HP will buy one of the smaller leading companies in the next few years too. Part of the split purpose is for future M&A

  4. Great Source! by wsloand · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My favorite part of the article is the fact that it appears to be written by HP given the file:// link in the article.

  5. As always the description is wrong by Plazmid · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The printer does not spray "drops of thermoplastic," it sprays magic chemicals that either inhibit or promote sintering onto a bed of thermoplastic powder and then uses a big o' incandescent bulb to fuse the powder. This is pretty much the selective inhibition of sintering process, so the magic chemicals are probably just something like salt water and black ink.

    Now what does this mean? Well because you have to spray a sintering inhibitor on, you can't recycle as much powder, unless they give you a special powder recycler for removing the inhibitor. Because you're printing out lots of black ink, can't really recycle powder, and HP will lock you into using their cartridges you will be paying out the a$$ for ink and 'toner.'

    This is a HUGE development though. If the parts really have the same strength and detailing as those produced with laser sintering, as in even if this machine did not come equipped with color capability, then this has just made a lot of big industrial 3d printers obsolete. Getting rid of the need for laser and nitrogen gas purge system for sintering type machines is HUGE! Even with huge expensive print cartridges it's going to be cost competitive with everything out there.

    Heck, it probably makes the whole 3d printing service bureau business model obsolete, because this puts high quality 3d printers in the cost range for small businesses.

    This is probably the "attack of the killer micros" moment for the additive manufacturing industry.

  6. Re:Once again, it's "me too" in the back of the ro by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    Would you prefer that they completely shut down their conventional printer business to focus on...

    Hell yeah!

    Sorry, did you say anything after that?

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  7. Re:Where will decent software come from? Here's 4 by MasterOfGoingFaster · · Score: 4, Informative

    I'm also a Solidworks user. I think you overlooked a few.

    GeoMagic Design Elements US$1300.
    McNeel Rhino US$ 995
    Cubify Design US$ 199
    Cubify Invent US$ 49

    I used a trial of GeoMagic Design, and almost purchased it. I think it was Alibre Design, so it somewhat of a Solidworks clone, and is far better than I expected. But my clients use Solidworks, so.....

    I also use Rhino, and it does stuff Solidworks can only dream of. It lack full parametrics and a history tree, but has fantastic surface modeling. If you do complex surfaces, this is the one to get.

    Cubify Design and Invent - have not tried them, but they likely fit what most people want to do - make simple parts.

    Disclosure: I have been a customer for each of these companies, and know people at all three. I used to be a dealer for Solidworks and Rhino 14 years ago, and wish I didn't have to pay full retail today.

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  8. A good sign. by ndykman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    It's a sign that years and years of mismanagement maybe didn't completely kill the ability for them to come up with interesting stuff This is exactly the kind of thing they need to do. Shore up HP Labs and solve some neat problems and ship cool stuff. Sure, let's be skeptical, but good for them for trying.

  9. fused deposition modeling by jklovanc · · Score: 2

    The printer does not use fused deposition modeling. It uses powder bed and inkjet head 3D printing. It looks like the fusing agent is a heat or UV cured polymer that can be coloured.

  10. Re:Where will decent software come from? Here's 4 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Blender, my friend, now has great sculpting tools akin Zbrush and many less travelled options to export for CAM. It is free and supported by a great community.

    I used CAD tools as a pro, 10 years ago. I used NX, solidworks, edge, ProE WF, Autocrap, etc. I coded parametric designs from my own designs, I did non-linear hypersonic CFD with fluent and CFX on those designs, I did reverse-kinematic non-linear space robotics on those designs, I did it all.

      When I stopped caring about empirical tons of horseshit produced by those software, and starting creating and designing again in the real world, for myself and others where it mattered, I left all of these software behind and went back to my CG roots. No BS, I have not looked back in 10 years, I have not looked back from Blender in 3 years. I am orders of magnitute more prolific than I was.

    Blender has easily replaced 3DS, maya, rhino, lightwave, etc for me also, it is a no-brainer and my go-to now. Except for very specialized things at the end of my production pipeline (games, rendering and to convert back to .IGES for CAD exchange). I use blender for most of my workflow now. Each new version of Blender, I use it for MORE of my workflow. For CAM pipelines, I use something akin to freeCAD when .STL export is not good enough and I need a .IGES file format for exchange.

    And don't tell me materials, surface specs, coatings, etc.. yada yada. EVERY shop needs me to explain this to them both in conversation and with production anotations to paper drawings, because NO ONE can read a production drawing anymore anyways. I would rather give my design spec to a machine, everytime, with an IGES or STL.