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Pirate Bay Founder Gottfrid Warg Faces Danish Jail Time

Hammeh writes BBC news reports that Pirate Bay co-founder Gottfrid Warg has been found guilty of hacking into computers and illegally downloading files in Denmark. Found guilty of breaching security to access computers owned by technology giant CSC to steal police and social security files, Mr Warg faces a sentence of up to six years behind bars. Mr Warg argued that although the computer used to commit the offence was owned by him, the hacks were carried out by another individual who he declined to name.

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  1. Find a better excuse by cdrudge · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Mr Warg argued that although the computer used to commit the offence was owned by him, the hacks were carried out by another individual who he declined to name.

    Every bittorrent user has tried that excuse when they were caught and I don't think it has ever worked. Try to be a little more original next time Mr. Wang.

    1. Re:Find a better excuse by aliquis · · Score: 1

      Isn't that proof it was for real?

      I mean. Why would he used it if it's so lame? ;D

      Free him! ;D

    2. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Found guilty of breaching security to access computers owned by technology giant CSC to steal police and social security files

      He didn't steal the files; he just infringed their copyright.

    3. Re:Find a better excuse by Splab · · Score: 3, Informative

      You know how we know you are from the US? Because you are talking out of your fucking ass!

      Here in Denmark, they have stopped suing random torrent users, because it is impossible to show that the owner of the connection has in fact done the deed. The only people to have been sued lately are those whom either originally uploaded a torrent (and can be proven to have done so) or people making money of of it.

      Now the trial here is going to go to Landsretten, and most likely to HÃjesteret (Supreme court) *and* if Wargs lawyer is any good, it will probably also end up in human rights court; there are so many bad things about it, it is probably the worst case of injustice ever (even if he has in fact done anything wrong).

    4. Re:Find a better excuse by MightyMartian · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Wow, worst case of injustice EVER????

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    5. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They should have to prove it was you at the computer. If they can't, too bad.

    6. Re:Find a better excuse by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      You know how we know you are from the US? Because you are talking out of your fucking ass!

      I'll have you know that when I talk out of my voice, it's with a distinctly Danish accent!

      j/k! :p

    7. Re:Find a better excuse by Type44Q · · Score: 1

      I meant ass, not voice! :p

    8. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because you shouldn't be responsible for the service that you are buying.

    9. Re:Find a better excuse by binarylarry · · Score: 1

      I just thought you were high! :p

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    10. Re:Find a better excuse by Calydor · · Score: 1

      This is not about DVDs or songs.

      This is about hacking into the social security database and downloading the whole thing possibly with intent to sell to the highest bidder.

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    11. Re:Find a better excuse by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      What does the whole deal have to do with bittorrent? Aside from him happening to be one of the founders.

      That's like catching Elon Musk running over some Granny and conflating it with a claim that Tesla owners are reckless drivers.

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    12. Re:Find a better excuse by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Founders of TPB, that is.

      Gah, where's my coffee?

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    13. Re:Find a better excuse by mirix · · Score: 1

      Presumably he is going for worst case of injustice within the danish legal system in recent years. I imagine it's still a bit of a hyperbole though.

      Denmark isn't some backwater where they execute people with room temperature IQ, or put them in jail for life for stealing three chocolate bars though, so maybe it isn't.

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    14. Re:Find a better excuse by Grishnakh · · Score: 3, Informative

      Denmark isn't known for abusing its citizens with a prison-industrial complex the way the USA is. It's also known for being an expensive place to live, with a very high standard of living, just under its cousins Norway and Sweden.

      Combine this with the fact that Denmark only has about 5 million citizens (compared to USA's 310M+), and I imagine there was no hyperbole there at all, assuming he meant within the Danish legal system in recent years.

    15. Re:Find a better excuse by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      and how does jail help anyone?
      What an old 15 century concept. It just wastes tax payers money.

      Now he can do a post doc PHD in prison for free , wicked, free food, free tv, free everything.

      Stupid justice system.

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    16. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      *Random torrent users*? He *admits* the computer was used to steal data from the police but claims someone else used his computer. There are 100s of millions of "random torrent users" but I'm pretty sure only a small handful would also be hacking into police computers.

      Basically he admits his computer was used to commit crimes but claims someone else did - and won't give him up. Either he is guilty of the crime or guilty of conspiracy to commit the crime. Either way I don't understand the "injustice"...

      And the "from the US" comment just shows you are a bigoted twat as well. Some of us who don't believe in hacking into government computers are not actually from the US. but yes. "Worst injustice ever". Can't think of any worse injustice. In the world. Ever. Good one.

    17. Re:Find a better excuse by Thanshin · · Score: 1

      Every bittorrent user has tried that excuse when they were caught and I don't think it has ever worked.

      And one day, more bad people start doing illegal things from general population's computers not for stealth, with for incrimination. Interesting times will ensue.

      Or, in other words, the judicial system is using the fundamentally flawed argument of "it was your computer". As long as they may work, fundamentally flawed arguments eventually fail. And the more they've been used, the more spectacularly they fail. Because if they fail late enough, their failure brings the excarcelation of innocent people, and those things can kill political careers.

    18. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is about hacking into the social security database and downloading the whole thing

      Yes.

      possibly with intent to sell to the highest bidder.

      No, unless you have something to back that up with that tangents slander.

    19. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're smart enough to understand the word "hacking" and use it, but too stupid to understand that by using that word, you automatically open the possibility that his computer was hacked from somewhere else in the world. Interesting.

    20. Re:Find a better excuse by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's also known for being an expensive place to live

      When I studied in Copenhagen, a latte at Starbucks cost me about $12.

      My university tuition cost me about 30 lattes. It's just a different priority system.

  2. Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    is served!

    yeah, yeah it's fun to steal online content created by hollywood, but it is immoral and illegal no matter how much you whiny little shits rationalize it.

    Pout as much as you want. If I make content with my money you have absolutely no right whatsoever to watch it without paying me the price I ask. If you disagree, well then fuck you very much. I'll just come and take YOUR work product for free or literally take food off your table and eat it.

    1. Re:Justice by aliquis · · Score: 0

      How you know he's stolen Hollywood created online content?

      Meanwhile I purchase lots of bundles because the price is fair.

      If you out-price yourself and I copy the content instead then .. well.. Enjoy :) - No food on the table from me :)

    2. Re:Justice by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Um, this article is about a guy who broke into state systems and stole police and citizen data. Or at least they allege he did, and as he indicates that he knows who actually did it but refuses to name them, and it was done on his hardware, that makes him pretty much indictable of contempt of court at a minimum.

      As for your last remark, there are thousands of people around the world who have come and taken my work product for free (as the license on my work allows), and I also donate to the local food bank, and feed multiple people directly off my table.

      So yeah, I'm not quite sure what point you're trying to make, other than to state that you don't like this guy's lifestyle, and think they got him Al Capone style (which they didn't).

    3. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pout as much as you want. If I make content with my money you have absolutely no right whatsoever to watch it without paying me the price I ask. If you disagree, well then fuck you very much. I'll just come and take YOUR work product for free or literally take food off your table and eat it.

      As the icing on the cake, now we only need the clowns to appear who claim that "no one loses anything if you make a copy". Yeah, why don't we just buy 1 piece of the album from the artist and then make unlimited copies of it. No one loses anything, right. Let's see how that keeps the music recording industry alive.

    4. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This isn't America, so they have to actually prove that he did hack into the system.

    5. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then let it die

    6. Re:Justice by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1

      Copied, you mean.

      and feed multiple people directly off my table.

      You make them eat off of a table?

    7. Re:Justice by The+Ickle+Jones · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      No one loses anything, right.

      Right. Not gaining is not the same as losing.

    8. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I make content with my money you have absolutely no right whatsoever to watch it...

      By your argument, when my employer has me make him a TV show (news on a daily basis, other shows on a weekly or fortnightly basis) and decides he won't pay me for it, he's then investing my money in the show.

      Therefore, I should get significant returns on said content. Strangely enough, I get nothing at all. Not a cent, yet my contract states I'll be paid for all of the work I do.

      ...without paying me the price I ask

      *mumble mumble* something about cost the market will bear. Something about what people are willing to pay.

      Something about the free market.

    9. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, you're wrong. It's quite okay to copy, not a single sale is lost from anything I copy from Hollywood because I would never pay a single penny for the stuff I download, and yes, I'd also copy a car if it was possible.

    10. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no one loses anything if you make a copy! - a Clown
      The only artists that I know of that had financial problems because they didn't get paid was TLC. Guess why the didn't get paid? Their record company screwed them since they didn't know how to write a contract. A lot of millionaires complaining about not being billionaires is just sad, the people and kids that copy music and video cant afford to buy it. If you managed to stomp out piracy the only thing that would happen would be that less people would listen to recorded music and videos... which would be good for live artists and theater. That is really a good thing now that I think about it... I hope RIAA and MPAA succeed in their war against their customers so we can get some local artist flourishing again!

    11. Re:Justice by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      why dont you holywood crooks pay taxes, instead of declaring every movie a loss.

      and i bring my own food/drinks into the cinema too, so screw your $12 popcorn and $7 drinks.

      Bunch of crooks.

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    12. Re:Justice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and i bring my own food/drinks into the cinema too, so screw your $12 popcorn and $7 drinks.

      I bet you really impress the ladies with a rebellious streak like that

  3. IP != Person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then there is the pesky "reasonable doubt" that many countries have.

    1. Re:IP != Person. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      There's also the pesky "contempt of court" that many countries have. I'd say he more than stepped over that line.

    2. Re:IP != Person. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "contempt of court" isn't proof of guilt. However, what I meant was that they had proven "beyond reasonable doubt" that he was guilty or at least responsible. If you give your computer to a person and watch them commit a crime with you approval you are at least an accomplice.

    3. Re:IP != Person. by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      "contempt of court" isn't proof of guilt. However, what I meant was that they had proven "beyond reasonable doubt" that he was guilty or at least responsible. If you give your computer to a person and watch them commit a crime with you approval you are at least an accomplice.

      Exactly :) Contempt of Court isn't going to net 6 years; I was just setting the bar lower.

    4. Re:IP != Person. by 91degrees · · Score: 2

      "Reasonable" is the key word here though.

      The story just doesn't add up. There's no plausible explanation. Someone decided to use his computer, and *only* his computer to do all their hacking, with his full knowledge. This person has absolutely no interest in protecting Warg, but Warg is willing to risk prison in order to protect this person. Why? It doesn't make sense!

    5. Re:IP != Person. by f3rret · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Refusing to make a statement or refusing to incriminate yourself or others does not constitute 'contempt of court; you are afforded the right to remain silent under Danish (and also US) law.

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  4. BT by aliquis · · Score: 0

    Gottfrid Varg has likely created content worth more than you ever have. Mr AC.

    1. Re:BT by imatter · · Score: 2

      As an AC you have no credibility so why even post? you can make all the claims you want and never have to back them up.

      Question, since you mention software in vehicles that makes them safer, did you invent the safety or merely steal it from the years of research on vehicle safety and then write software to bring that data together in a "nifty" way? I don't disagree that there was hard work involved in writing the software and that there is value in hard work. In the end, is it that you created the "nifty" way and the customers are actually buying the safety which you are taking credit for or you created the safety and the software is the best way to sell it.

    2. Re: BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think you made all that up.

    3. Re:BT by aliquis · · Score: 1

      You don't think TPB carries a bigger value than "multi millions"?

      If so what's all the whining about?

      If Facebook is worth $200 billion then surely TPB surves at least 1/20 their purpose? =P

      They are just not charging for it...

      Embedded systems / QNX?

      You can? Once again - What's the bitching about then?

      And what you mean "like me"? Didn't you read the part of me purchasing a lot of bundles?

      I do have a limited budget though. If I wanted to do something in Photoshop and Photoshop was what I felt was easiest to use / what I was most comfortable with then I wouldn't pay $700 to be able to use Photoshop because that doesn't make sense for me.

      It may do for a professional though.

      Then again I could purchase 100 $7 bundles of games where I wouldn't play most. That wouldn't necessarily make much sense for the same professional previously mentioned.

      More expensive? Why?
      Wouldn't they rather not have existed if no-one bothered in developing them?

      I don't eat animals.. And I donate to charities. And I've never stolen a single item in a store ever.

      We all do bad things. Maybe you speed every now and then?

      Everyone who have been using TPB with no problem is laughing at your claims of OMG I MISSED BILLIONS OF MONEYS IF THESE PEOPLE HAVE ONLY BOUGHT THEIR 200 000 OF MP3S!

    4. Re:BT by rev0lt · · Score: 4, Insightful

      ...And yet you probably don't have polyo because some guy decided to give the cure to the world. Have a look at your software stack, and the hardware that follows, and all the people that innovated without thinking about money first. Whatever you are today, you owe to those people. And most of them don't really care if you made yourself rich or not - if you cannot conceive this concept, I pitty you. No money in the world will fill that hole.

    5. Re:BT by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      Enjoy your high altitude flights were cosmic rays are greater and you might get cancer faster.

      But tech IP is different to movie IP. You cannot claim tax losses on lost potential sales, otherwise I could claim that you didnt hire me, so in effect, Ive lost income of $5m, so the govt should refund me all tax ive paid in history.

      I hope you pay your pilot well, not a cheapass wage.

      But its a free market, if you charged 1 billion for your IP then you would get zero sales, so your price was fair to a company, and then evenly spread across 100000s of sales.

      Oh and why would you risk everything, any real gambler always hides enough capital to restart or live well. You dont spend every cent you have left, or did you hide millions in assets in your parents name first to avoid paying your over worked unpaid workers.

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    6. Re:BT by cheekyboy · · Score: 1

      First class is first to crush when the plane crashes.

      The middle or back is most likely to survive better, there have been stats made on this, and the first class and business class is the crumple zone that absorbes most of the energy, SQUISH!

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    7. Re: BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're one desperate little faggot aren't you?

      Go back to writing MLP fan fiction and master baton you lying fucking tool. The only thing you've ever accomplished in life is making a good case for late term abortions. Fucking little fruit.

    8. Re:BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Care to explain how the world evolved quickly prior to "IP Laws" if you would not have invented anything without them? Maybe you can also explain why the pace of change has actually trended downwards ever since IP laws were enacted?

      The "mighty" US was founded on IP violations (US industrial revolution = wholesale IP theft from Europe) , not because of strict laws enforcing them.

      Lastly, I can write about how I am a multi-billionaire to one-up you since i to am posting AC as well, both statements are worth around zero.

    9. Re:BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the lives I saved were in the developing world and yours (probably mostly) weren't is not going to count for much when we're both rotting in the ground.

      I've never seen a single one sprout and grow but they just keep planting the dead humans. Never understood why.

    10. Re:BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm a multi-millionaire who risked everything to create software programs

      What, exactly, did you risk? Your life? Your loved ones? A fat inheritance? A huge ego? What?

      Without copyright protection, enforceable EULAs and copy protection/licensing software, I would never have created my products and all those products that impact your life would be more expensive.

      So, without those laws, you wouldn't have even dared to write software in the first place? You'd have gone for something less dangerous than coding? Something like, uh,...sorry, nothing comes to mind.

      Wow. Sounds like you really hang your balls out here, living life on the edge. Good on you, buddy.

    11. Re:BT by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...And yet you probably don't have polyo because some guy decided to give the cure to the world.

      Who is this magical man that has cured the world of string cheese?

    12. Re:BT by grcumb · · Score: 1

      And you would be wrong about that. I'm a multi-millionaire who risked everything to create software programs that are used worldwide to make the car you drive better, the airplane you fly safer and make the heart pump that saves your lazy junk food eating ass safer.

      I mean this in all sincerity: Good for you.

      Those things happen only because I can protect my IP from the likes of you.

      Let's be clear about this, though: When you say 'those things', you're referring to those specific things that you and your company did. Because there is a very large volume of life-changing —and life-saving— software that came about without any thought of recompense, and with very different ideas about copy-protection and ownership.

      Without copyright protection, enforceable EULAs and copy protection/licensing software, I would never have created my products and all those products that impact your life would be more expensive.

      I don't know why I spend my time trying to convince people like you that you are utterly, hopelessly wrong in your idea that it is OK to steal other people's work without compensating them the price they demand. I think it's because I have tons of spare time now that my wife and I spend our days travelling the world first class.

      Again, in all sincerity: Good for you and your wife.

      Having traveled in first class, I found it to be full of pampered, self-important twits with more money than sense, but hey, it wouldn't exist if there weren't a demand for it. I'll take business class myself, thanks.

      So in summary, suck it bitch. I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

      Ah, the famous 'I'm all right, Jack' defence. Astonishingly, this self-aggrandising approach to entitlement doesn't breed a lot of sympathy among those of us who have other considerations than ourselves. But that's okay. I've saved lives, you've saved lives —that's what counts. At the end of the day, the fact that the lives I saved were in the developing world and yours (probably mostly) weren't is not going to count for much when we're both rotting in the ground. The fact that I'm largely at peace with myself and don't get too exercised about what people do with the fruits of my labours is likely secondary as well. I daresay you're pretty content, too.

      But there is this: My way of living and doing business is just as workable as yours, and my way doesn't serve only the rich. So fuck you, you self-satisfied, closed-minded, smug little shit. You think there's no other way but yours? You're wrong and I'm living proof.

      Just reposting this here, because apparently Mr I'm All Right Jack has a problem with actual dialogue. In spite of my original comment being modded all the way to 5, he's used a bunch of sock-puppets to take it all the way back to -1, because 'Flamebait'. It seems we're supposed to remain civil when told to: 'Suck it, bitch.'

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  5. "not me" did it! by gatfirls · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Really dude? Why not at least say you had a virus/botnet on your machine. At least that gives a reasonable doubt.

    1. Re:"not me" did it! by westlake · · Score: 2

      Really dude? Why not at least say you had a virus/botnet on your machine. At least that gives a reasonable doubt.

      In the American system, it is usually the jury who gets to decide what is "reasonable."

      The geek, in the absence of evidence, tends to construct scenarios that are theoretically possible, but by no means plausible.

    2. Re:"not me" did it! by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 4, Insightful

      There is no way the courts should hold people responsible for something unless they can prove the person who possess it or the evidence of said action can actually be connected.

      Yes, but it's not "prove" as in "any other explanation is 100% impossible." It's "prove beyond a reasonable doubt."

      Without that you wouldn't be able to convict the man standing over the body with the knife in his hand screaming "I'm glad I killed him." There are endless possibilities for the accused's innocence, but most of them would be rightly considered ridiculous and would only belong in an episode of Jonathan Creek.

      Someone who has seen far more of the evidence in this case you or I ever will has decided the criteria for guilt have been met. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, I'm going to lean towards the conclusion that he got convicted not because the system is rigged, but because he did actually do it and the preponderance of evidence was to that effect.

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  6. Plea bargain by Xacid · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a plea bargain.

    1. Re:Plea bargain by f3rret · · Score: 2

      Sounds like a plea bargain.

      No such thing under Danish law.

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    2. Re:Plea bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's actually not. 6 years is a hard sentence in Denmark, we have quite mild prison sentences in Denmark. We want people to think about what they did, we don't punish people just because we can. We don't want to spend millions taking care of a prisoner for something that only mildly inconvenienced some bosses in CSC.

      Life imprisonment in Denmark has parole set at 5 years, but on average people serve 15-17 years. Since 1980 only about 40 people have received life imprisonment.

      For lesser crimes like assault or fraud people only serve 1-3 years.

    3. Re:Plea bargain by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No such thing under Danish law.

      ??? So how do you commoditize punishments and sentencing? How can you run a profitable prison industry if you can't haggle the terms at the bargaining table? You actually give every inmate a real trial? With lawyers and evidence and judge and jury? No wonder your taxes are so high.

    4. Re:Plea bargain by Xacid · · Score: 1

      What kind of mad utopia is this? How will anyone ever be deterred from criming it all up all over the place?

      But really - sounds like a great concept. No sure how it'd scale in a place like The States given culture and population, however.

  7. Warg's punishment by RDW · · Score: 1

    Mr Warg faces a sentence of up to six years behind bars.

    Could have been worse: https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

  8. This is the future Republicans... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    want for all of us that use the Internet. They are trying to kill this poor guy for using the Internet and now have their worshipers beating an imprisoning him now. This is what they want for us all.

  9. Prison in Nordics by Kumiorava · · Score: 4, Informative

    Here is a brief introduction to a documentary of a NY prison admin going to Norway to look how the prison works there.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...

  10. Even worse than this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    http://www.informationweek.com/software/file-sharing-mom-ordered-to-pay-$15-million/d/d-id/1093918?

  11. Meanwhile, back in Hollywood by Mister+Liberty · · Score: 4, Funny

    Nazi Walt Disney and its offspring keep ravaging your grandma's fairy tales.

    1. Re:Meanwhile, back in Hollywood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, those fairy tale authors should have lobbied for their own copyright extensions.

    2. Re:Meanwhile, back in Hollywood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nazi Walt Disney and its offspring keep ravaging your grandma's fairy tales.
      Yes, but the copyright was smaller then, and they could grab all they wanted for free. Now copyright has been extended due to the MMPA (Mickey Mouse Protection Act), and so their lawyers and the politicians they paid for say its legal for them to commit theft and fraud, but not for you. Its a "do as I say, not as I do" sort of thing. Oh, did I mention that it was legal but not moral?

  12. "Danish Jail Time" by TomR+teh+Pirate · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    For those who don't know, it's +1 hour GMT. So I guess he's serving an extra hour. He should have committed the crime with a solidly negative GMT instead.

  13. How to torpedo your own boat. by westlake · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Mr Warg argued that although the computer used to commit the offence was owned by him, the hacks were carried out by another individual who he declined to name.

    Every bittorrent user has tried that excuse when they were caught and I don't think it has ever worked. Try to be a little more original next time Mr. Wang.

    But this is something new!

    He admits that the hacking was criminal, that the hacker was using one of his computers, and that he knows who the hacker is, but won't name him --- even after being found guilty on the felony charge.

    When was the last time you heard tell of a geek throwing away three perfectly serviceable "Get Out Of Jail Free Cards?"

    1. Re:How to torpedo your own boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Three? The police already know the hacking was illegal, and they already knew his computer was where it originated. The only 'Get out of jail free card' he has/had is the name of the hacker.

      Considering he's only facing up to 6 years in prison, it probably makes sense to not throw his friend under the bus. 6 years isn't a trivial amount of time, but it's not, leik, 5evur(more dan 4evur). He'd get out in 2020-2021. If he betrayed the trust of his fellow hackers in order to stay out of prison, then he'd be completely ostracized from the community. If he stays the course(and doesn't turn in his friend) then he gets 6 years of prison, and when he gets out he'll be welcomed back to the hacking community with no bad blood.

    2. Re:How to torpedo your own boat. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he doesn't know the hacker. Maybe it was an intelligence service that hacked his machine and purposely used it to break into police systems in order to punish him.

  14. Who the hell cares whether "IP!=Person?" by westlake · · Score: 1

    But then there is the pesky "reasonable doubt" that many countries have.

    It's in the summary. He admits that the hacker used one of his computers. That he knows who the hacker is.

    1. Re:Who the hell cares whether "IP!=Person?" by timeOday · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If that is true, then the 'friend' who used Warg's computer to hack and is now standing by watching Warg go down in flames is a real dick for not coming forward.

  15. Danish Supreme Cheese by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i bet this trial would be easier for the big megacorps if they some how could get it run int he USA instead of daneland lol...

  16. The white collar version ... by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    ... of "that dope ain't mine! Someone left it in my house!"

  17. Le Page Monster Fails In Sexual Conquest of Hickox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A courageuse Hickox defeated Le Page, megalomanic partner in human skin with NJ Gov Christie in is attempts of sexual conquest.

    This is a tremendous set-back to Christies ambitions at Quarantine Nation policy to provide him with a stable source of human flesh for consumption.

  18. Just in time for Halloween by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    A modern day witch hunt.

  19. Only the official truth by madak3 · · Score: 0

    In Sweden, many people are realising that he is getting framed for a fictitious crime. He is a so called "uncomfortable person" for the goverement, and foregin goverements are pushing Sweden to "sort out that matter". What other better solution than "you've hacked us, because thats something you do" and lock away him? In other words this is a reflection of the case Aaron Swartz in the US.

  20. ok by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just host a torrent and watch people connect or people that connect that have a special interest and they use vpro to remotely peek in with a master BIOS password and they redirect data through SOL. naw never will happen. NEVER.

  21. 3,5 years prison by Kleokat · · Score: 1

    Read and translate the full story here:
    http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Viden...

    - below is a Google Translation of the top of the article [with my edits]:

    It was respectively 3.5 years in prison and six months in prison for the two men who yesterday was found guilty in the case of the large hacker attacks against CSC two years ago.
    Swedish Gottfrid Svartholm Warg, who received the longest judgment, and a 21-year-old Danish man has always [pleaded not guilty] in the case, but the court chose yesterday to reject Wargs explanation that his computer had been remotely [controlled] while the attacks were on.
    Warg was yesterday found guilty of hacking and vandalism, while the 21-year-old alone convicted of involvement in hacking. Today took the court [decided] on the penalty.
    Warg was also sentenced to deportation from Denmark and got entry ban. He must also pay the cost of technical assistance for the part concerning himself.

    The 21-year-old received the judgment. Warg chose to appeal to the High Court.

  22. Re:3,5 years prison - my person opinion by Kleokat · · Score: 1

    I am Danish, so the story is from my country.

    My personal opinion about this is:
    - no comments on jail conditions or jail time - that's another discussion.
    - The information, he accessed was very sensitive, and nobody wants their personal sensitive information compromized.
    - He may have the guilt he has, but how about the company CSC? Are they safe enough?

  23. Re:3,5 years prison - my person opinion by jbssm · · Score: 1

    The information, he accessed was very sensitive, and nobody wants their personal sensitive information compromized.

    Ok. Shouldn't the Danish legal system be prosecuting Facebook, Google, NSA and CIA first then, and leave the prosecuting of guys like Gottfrid Warg for the end of the process?

  24. Re:3,5 years prison - my person opinion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    afaiu CSC basically handled all the evidence and did all the investigation, so of course they are safe enough he's a superhacker with God like powers ....