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Your Incompetent Boss Is Making You Unhappy

HnT writes A new working paper shows strong support for what many have always suspected: your boss's technical competence is the single strongest predictor of workers' well-being, way ahead of other factors such as education, earnings, job tenure and public vs. private sector. On top of other studies which have already demonstrated that happy workers are more productive workers (e.g. this 2012 paper.), it does make you wonder how long organizations can afford to continue promoting incompetent bosses in today's very dynamic and competitive business world.

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  1. Duh by darkain · · Score: 4, Funny

    NO SHIT. We needed a paper to tell us what we already knew? Damn, why didn't I write that paper... Here goes.

    "INCOMPETENT BOSSES ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF CAPSLOCK RAGE ON THE INTERNET"

    1. Re:Duh by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We need a paper to tell our bosses what we already knew.

    2. Re:Duh by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Funny

      We've received your concerns, and our reply will be arriving on a pink slip shortly.

    3. Re:Duh by ArcadeMan · · Score: 5, Funny

      Joke's on you, I'm self-employed! That means I'm my own stupid boss!

      Oh wait.

    4. Re:Duh by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Funny

      If you are dead, you don't know you are dead but all the people you know are effected from your death.

      The same is true with Stupidity.
      Your Incompetent boss doesn't know that he is incompetent, yet we all suffer from this.

      --
      If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
    5. Re:Duh by darkain · · Score: 4, Informative

      Since I was able to get off a wise ass crack joke for a first post, let me follow it up with something actually insightful for you other readers out there.

      What makes a "good" or "bad" boss anyways? Well, this article is one that I've always lived by, and it explains things quite well for both us techies and for those who are not of the tech mindset and skill set.

      http://www.computerworld.com/a...

    6. Re:Duh by ediron2 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Hadn't seen, read big chunks thru carefully and scanned the rest. Looks like it has potential to stand alongside the old bell labs star performers study/doc. Thank you 1e6.

  2. Peter Principle by Solandri · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The Peter Principle is a concept in management theory in which the selection of a candidate for a position is based on the candidate's performance in his or her current role rather than on abilities relevant to the intended role. Thus, employees only stop being promoted once they can no longer perform effectively, and "managers rise to the level of their incompetence."

    The solution (assuming you're already in a state with incompetent managers) is to allow incompetent managers to be demoted back into a position they're competent in. Unfortunately, society has a huge bias against workplace demotion.

  3. I Once Had A Boss Tell Us He 'Hates Computers.' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He was a VP in charge of a large software development organization for a Fortune Five company subsidiary.

    After a reorg, and this guy came in, he called the staff to his (large, well-appointed) office, and told us to note that he did not have a computer on his desk.

    He mentioned that he was a lawyer, and disliked computers.

    That was my 'résumé moment' at that company.

    Needless to say, that subsidiary has long since gone the way of the dodo.

  4. How do you get good people to step up? by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Many people don't want to manage other people. It's a tough job, often thankless, and in the words of a co-worker who quit being a boss and went back to technical work, it's like managing a bunch of four-year-olds who can't get along.

    If you want good bosses, step up to the plate and make the sacrifice and do the job. Also, be a good employee, good employees can attract good bosses.

    Also, in a random digression, I don't think a good technical boss necessarily HAS to be good technically. S/he just has to be able to listen effectively to the people who ARE good technically--which is something s/he should be doing even if s/he IS good technically. A boss who doesn't listen is in my opinion worse than a boss who is ignorant, knows it, and respects the experts s/he supervises.

    --PeterM

    1. Re:How do you get good people to step up? by gsslay · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Employees having been whining about their boss' incompetence since the beginning of time. A large percentage of them reckon they can do their bosses job, and better.

      And then one day they have to do a bosses job. That's when they find out that there's way more to it than they imagined.

    2. Re:How do you get good people to step up? by Enry · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Honestly, it depends on the outlook of the boss. I went from technical to management and back to sorta technical/sorta management. The proper attitude for a mid-level manager especially for technical staff is "what can I do to make sure they can do their job?". And that's how I approached my staff at the time - what do they need from me, what tasks do I think they could be doing to further their career, what grunt work stuff has to be done and assigned to somebody? Balance all that out, make sure your team knows you are looking out for them (and take their side when dealing with upper management) and you'll have their support and enthusiasm. I wound up getting laid off and still talk to the people that used to work for me. They say I was one of the best managers they had, partially because I was technical enough to know what they were talking about, but also I was working with them before being promoted so I was almost literally in their shoes and could see their side of issues.

  5. Re:No shit, by Tom · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Yes, it did. Because quite regularly, those things that "everybody knows" turn out to be not actually true.

    We as humans are amazing at spotting some things and judging them correctly immediately. It's a survival trait, which is why it's so highly developed.

    But it goes wrong in many cases, especially in those where false positives are harmless but false negatives deadly.

    --
    Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
  6. Looks Like This May Be Controversial ... by CrankyFool · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I manage a group of engineers; I've spent about half of my career being an IC engineer and half managing engineers, and it's been intertwined -- in this company, I started off as an IC, then became a manager, moved to another group as an IC, then became a manager. When my boss proposed to me that I manage the group I manage today, I declined because I didn't think I was technically competent enough -- I'd never actually built the huge, scalable, systems they built, and I knew they could run laps around me.

    Eventually, he persuaded me to take the position, with my team's consent. On my first day with my team I sat down with each person in the team and literally my first question to each of them was "What's my job around here?" And they told me they didn't need or want someone to review or approve their technical decisions -- when they had doubt, they talked with each other. They wanted someone to help them understand our customers a little better, and that's why they wanted me.

    Generally speaking, I figure my job is to act as a retention aid (my presence around should make my engineers want to stick around more than if I wasn't around) and doing whatever the hell my team needs done that engineers don't want to do. I have technical opinions, sure, and sometimes I even disagree with my engineers. And they do whatever they think is the right thing to do. I think about 80% of the time we disagree, they're right.

    I'm good at some things; I'm bad at others. I wonder if the issue is not whether or not a manager is technically competent, but whether or not a manager is competent in the area in which that manager actually spends their time, and their team expects them to spend their time.

  7. Rubbish by taustin · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is not the technical competence of the boss that is the determining factor, it is the competence at managing technical people. Technical competence of their own can help this, though it doesn't always, But it's not mandatory. I have one boss (out of three) who can reliably turn a computer on and off without printed notes (with pictures), and he has very little idea what I do. But they're good people managers. They recognize that they know basically nothing of what I do, and leave me alone to do it. They know what they want - network up and running, computers not overly slow, various new toys their friends have, and they know how to tell whether or not they're getting it. Everything else they leave to me, and when I tell them "that's not going to work" or "it's going to cost this much, and you don't want to spend that much," they trust my judgment because they know I know more about my job than they do. I've been on the same job for over 20 years, and still look forward to going to work every morning.

    Managing people is a specific skillset, and not an easy one to master. And it's an important one, that computer geeks wrongly dismiss in much the same way that MBAs wrongly dismiss technical skillsets. It's a popular mistake that managers have to (pretend to) be able to do every job in their department, because MBAs are taught that. But it just isn't true.

  8. How about rotating the boss hat? by PeterM+from+Berkeley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Have a culture of rotating people in and out of management to "lower" positions. Like department heads at universities, the job lasts a year or two then you're back as a normal faculty.

    I rotated in and out of a money management job, now I'm back doing technical stuff. As a result I have a very good understanding of that end of the business as well as the techical end.

    --PM

  9. Re:Office Space by afidel · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You don't have to be a tech wiz to manage an IT department. In fact my bosses boss is a business degree guy who managed malls before being thrust into IT management (he had run his own skunkworks IT group at a previous employer because their central IT was so horrible, new CEO came in, got wind of what he was doing and promoted him to CIO). What he DOES do is listen to both the business people AND his technical people. He won't force a solution that doesn't work for both sides and he won't promise anything to the business that we technically can't deliver. He's by far the best IT manager I've ever worked under. My direct supervisor is technical, and I'm a technical manager, but the guys running the show don't have to be tech guys for things to run correctly, they need to be good managers.

    --
    There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
  10. Re:Soylent blue is managers! MAAAANAGGGERSS!! by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Funny

    And what are we supposed to do with these incompetents if we can't promote them out to management?

    Something about a B Ark ...

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    Lost at C:>. Found at C.
  11. The Technical conundrum.... by erp_consultant · · Score: 4, Informative

    This kind of thing seems to happen a lot in big companies. People that are deemed "talented" in technical jobs are "promoted" into management jobs. Other managers see this as some sort of reward for being so good at what you do. Often the technical person has risen as far as they can in terms of salary and responsibility and the only place left to go is management.

    That's the conundrum. Do you stay in your current position, effectively dead-ending yourself career wise, or do you make the leap into management for greater potential riches?

    The problem, as I see it, is that very few companies offer a track to senior management by sticking to the technical path. Inevitably, someone will try and steer you towards project management or some other management job. Google is a notable exception to this.

    Many technical people are just not well suited to management jobs. Too many meetings, too much posturing, too many political games...too many whatever. Putting people like this in management jobs helps nobody - especially the technical person that is Ill suited for management.

    So what to do?

    I think that salary ranges are part of the problem. It guarantees that eventually a person will "top out" salary wise at a given job. At that point you can either go the management route or, more likely, go to a competitor that offers more money. Your hand is kind of being forced. Instead, why not continue to give this employee raises? If they have hung around long enough to get to the top pay scale and they are good at what they do then why force them to have to make that choice?

    I have been a technical manager and I can say without hesitation that one great developer is worth more than 10 average ones. If I have a great developer on my team I'm going to pay them really well. If he ends up making more than me then so be it. In the end, I will look good because this rock star will carry the team. It's a win-win.

  12. Re:No shit, by iamgnat · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Studying why people are unhappy in their jobs is worthwhile so that people can learn how to find jobs that they are happier in as happier workers tend to be more productive.

    I'm not sure I agree with the conclusion though. Personally I find that my best managers were the ones that had little or no technical ability in the realm of what their staff did. They also happened to be the ones that actually understood the role of a manager and managed the team/projects on the whole rather than trying to get into the details. All the "knowledgeable" managers I've had fall into two equally bad (to me) categories. The first really doesn't know as much as they think and make life more difficult by injecting bad or wrong information into the process which (at best) drags things out or (at worst) makes the whole team look like a bunch of idiots that can't get their stories straight. The other group is those that actually do know their stuff, but they fall back to just doing it themselves rather than managing their team to get things done.

    The real key is that the staff has to trust the manager to stay out of the low level details and the manager has to trust his staff to actually be competent at their jobs (and if not, do something proactive about it). Without the trust and everyone sticking to their actual role it all falls apart and people are miserable.

  13. Re:Soylent blue is managers! MAAAANAGGGERSS!! by plover · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And what are we supposed to do with these incompetents if we can't promote them out to management?

    Where do you think executives come from.

    You'd be surprised how much damage an incompetent executive can do. It may not be immediate, but it poisons an organization systemically. A bad boss can be fired. Firing a bad exec may not remove the toxins fast enough for the organization to recover.

    --
    John