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Married Woman Claims Facebook Info Sharing Created Dating Profile For Her

jenningsthecat writes A happily married Ontario woman was shocked and dismayed last January to discover that she had an active account with dating site Zoosk.com. Mari Sherkin saw a pop-up ad on Facebook for Zoosk, but wasn't interested, so she "clicked on the X to close it. At least I thought I did." She immediately began to receive messages from would-be Zoosk suitors in her Facebook mailbox. When she had a look on Zoosk she was horrified to find a dating profile with her Facebook picture, name, and postal code. Zoosk denies ever setting up profiles in this way, yet their terms of service explicitly allow them to do it, and there are apparently several Facebook pages with complaints of similar occurrences.

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  1. Honest, honey... by Jawnn · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...I would never have done something like that.

    1. Re:Honest, honey... by parkinglot777 · · Score: 1

      Unless you are drunk and have a different memory after you sober? :P

    2. Re:Honest, honey... by Matheus · · Score: 1

      "The lady doth protest too much, methinks"

      I believe this as much as I believe every friend of mine who's virus ridden computer I end up cleaning who says "Honestly I didn't click on anything"

      There's a lot to not like about Facebook if you so choose to concern yourself with such things but this lady's pants are on fire (in more ways than one) Someone should call the fire department.

    3. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or maybe Facebook and friends are just scumbag companies.

    4. Re: Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I have a friend that died 3 years ago who somehow started a dating profile on there about 4 months ago. I don't think he was drunk. He keeps trying to get me to "join him" on other things in Facebook as well.

    5. Re:Honest, honey... by tompaulco · · Score: 2

      If you are not careful, you absolutely can click on the X and count as a click through, because some of these scum sucking low lifes just put a picture of an X there and it is not really the close button. Sometimes you can tell because your windows theme is different and they have made a static picture of the standard close X. I'm sure plenty of people are fooled by that. Then there are all of the onClose exploits, which you can defeat with some javascript, but a small minority of people know how to do that.

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    6. Re:Honest, honey... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      Or maybe Facebook and friends are just scumbag companies.

      Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Can she, or anyone else, point to an actual Zoosk ad that does what she claims?

    7. Re: Honest, honey... by seven+of+five · · Score: 1

      One good lawsuit would give Zoosk some motivation to cut the crap.

    8. Re:Honest, honey... by pr0fessor · · Score: 1

      We had a manager where I worked have a disgruntled employee register her email for a bunch of mailing lists and call every place with in about 350 miles to setup an appointment for a breast enlargement consultations. .

      She might have left her facebook logged in somewhere and somebody else did it as a joke or for revenge.

    9. Re:Honest, honey... by SQLGuru · · Score: 1

      This is one of the reasons that I kill the Chrome task if I get anything even remotely fishy (phishy) looking popping up.

    10. Re:Honest, honey... by LessThanObvious · · Score: 2

      The fake X close button is something I really fear will become a broad way of exploiting vulnerable users. Many of the X buttons even in seemingly legitimate pop-ups don't tell you anything about the action it will take even by doing a mouse over. Users are accustomed to blindly clicking the X to close even if it doesn't look like a regular Windows close button. I spent some time using the Firefox "inspect element" feature and I didn't find any that did something nasty on close, but it seems like this trend of embedding a close button or X into in-page popups is ripe for exploitation. I would encourage sites allowing this kind of advertising to define a standard to allow users to better know the safety of the close action. It would take a lot to train users to Alt-F4 every time they get one of those if they aren't running NoScript.

    11. Re:Honest, honey... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      If you are not careful, you absolutely can click on the X and count as a click through, because some of these scum sucking low lifes just put a picture of an X there and it is not really the close button. Sometimes you can tell because your windows theme is different and they have made a static picture of the standard close X. I'm sure plenty of people are fooled by that.

      Actually, with the rise in Flash-based ads (including autoplay videos), more and more ads appear in the browser with a custom close button anyway. There is no way of telling the real ones from the fakes any more.

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    12. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A lot of those are CSS popups now. Alt-F4 closes the containing page.

    13. Re:Honest, honey... by Gr8Apes · · Score: 1

      A lot of those are CSS popups now. Alt-F4 closes the containing page.

      What is this "Alt" key you speak of?

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    14. Re:Honest, honey... by ganjadude · · Score: 1

      I cant speak for zoosk but I have found profiles in my name on other questionable dating sites. They scrape what they can from public forums and create a page for you. then they spam the hell outo f you until you log in to their page.

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    15. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A "happily married" Ontario woman was "shocked and dismayed" by her dating presence on Zoosk. Also, her Single Facebook status, her "Free at Last!" Tweet, and her Ashley Madison profile.

      Those sky-high phone bills to 1-800-Friends-With-Benefits? Um, misdials. Caused by auto-correct. Bad kitty! Bad!!

    16. Re:Honest, honey... by the_B0fh · · Score: 4, Informative

      Did you not read the article where they quoted the actual terms of service that said you authorized them to create a profile for you automatically?

      Why ask for extraordinary evidence when the site itself tells you it will do that?

    17. Re:Honest, honey... by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      I just created an account for myself. Apparently men can't see what the competition is like (males interested in women can't search for other males). I picked a few people (friends) who haven't used the site, and they aren't present. I don't see anything on the site that shows how old my account is, but it only has the very basic information that I just provided, so I'd say they hadn't previously auto-created my account from Facebook.

      When I "created" mine just now, I did the lost password search using the same email address that I use with Facebook. Apparently they let you create an account that way, if you didn't have one already.

      I did notice that they have a one-click account creation, so she could have clicked it in the past to log in, and forgot about it.

      So much for a perfectly crappy conspiracy.

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    18. Re:Honest, honey... by Demonoid-Penguin · · Score: 1

      Or maybe Facebook and friends are just scumbag companies.

      That is a fact. So is the sad reality that there are many people like Matheus, ShanghaiBill, pr0fessor etc, that will blame the victim, regard doing so as trivial, or even humorous. What's worse is they live in denial of themselves (stupid) and truly believe they aren't misogynists. (scared and bluffing).

      Werewolves do walk among us.

    19. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Joseph didn't believe her at first. He was planning on quietly canceling the wedding. Then an angel convinced him to marry Mary.

    20. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Welcome to the 21st century, Rip van Winkle. Nobody uses Flash any more.

    21. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep don't do that on your work computer when I am around or you'll end up looking for furries or friends of deep fisting.

      People learn really fast when you do this :)

    22. Re:Honest, honey... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      It's short for alternate and is the one that you use to type characters that are not part of your default character set. On some toy computers that don't have a proper keyboard with a meta key, it's used for commands, unfortunately eliminating its intended use and confining the users to ASCII.

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    23. Re:Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then there's Moses. I'm sure pharoah like totally believed his daughter's story about finding him under a papyrus bush.

    24. Re: Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Funny, I have a real computer, one that many IT professionals have or desire. No official "Alt" key. Oh, you're a windows weenie.... ;)

    25. Re: Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      You'll get it in 15 years or so. How long did it take to get a second mouse button?

    26. Re:Honest, honey... by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      OK, I don't know what those funny animated ads are. I don't really care. One way or another, they're utterly annoying.

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    27. Re:Honest, honey... by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      every friend of mine who's virus ridden computer I end up cleaning

      They stopped asking me after I stopped attempting to save their data. Makes life simpler.

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  2. She thought she was the customer by Spy+Handler · · Score: 5, Insightful

    but found out she's the product.

    1. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So true. Facebook farms people and sells the resulting data.

    2. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I feel zero sympathy for anyone on Facebook or other social networks who are used or abused by the systems. It's 2014. You know what you're in for, by now. If you're still stupid enough to use them, then shame on you.

    3. Re:She thought she was the customer by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1

      That's why The Inquirer calls Facebook the People Catalogue.

    4. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why? Cliche or not, it's the truth no matter how much you shill otherwise.

    5. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Over used cliche"? That's a strange way to spell "fact".

    6. Re:She thought she was the customer by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      Facebook could literally add the clause "We may harvest your organs in situ at any time and sell your children into sexual slavery." and the number of new sign-ups would not decrease by iota.

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    7. Re:She thought she was the customer by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      "We've come to take your liver..."

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    8. Re:She thought she was the customer by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      "This clause saying they can harvest my organs and sell my kids is outrageous! I'm going to start a Facebook page protesting this at once!"

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    9. Re:She thought she was the customer by Morpeth · · Score: 1

      How about if I make this little change..

      "I feel zero sympathy for anyone on banking networks who are used or abused by the systems. It's 2014. You know what you're in for, by now. If you're still stupid enough to use them, then shame on you."

      Don't blame the victim. Assuming what she said is true, it could have terrible implications at her job, for her marriage, etc.

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    10. Re:She thought she was the customer by znrt · · Score: 1

      i can understand that people may like what they get in return for being a product, and respect the decision, but in the end that's what they become.

      it's not like it's brought up to piss you (random reader) off, you have to understand that the moment you consent in being a product you have to expect being routinely exploited like this lady has (allegedly) been.

      of course, someone could make a big drama out of this, even have some regulation enforced to protect the products' rights ... it won't change the basic relationship: she made her choice, complains are futile because this exploitation is at the root of the business model she is happily part of. it simply wouldn't work - wouldn't exist - if it had to respect privacy.

      so it may be in fact a cliché, but as long as such news keep hitting the headlines you can't possibly say it's being overused.

    11. Re:She thought she was the customer by Threni · · Score: 1

      I don't get it. Is that supposed to be funny, revealing...what?

    12. Re:She thought she was the customer by _xeno_ · · Score: 1

      Which would explain how Zoosk got her postal code. Your Facebook name and profile picture are (by default at least) entirely public. Anyone going to your Facebook page can see them. They're available through Facebook's Graph API without any form of authentication.

      Your postal code, on the other hand, is not. In fact, Facebook doesn't even record that type of information. Your "current location" is basically freeform. (Technically it's a "page" for a given city. But I think you can enter anything you want in there.)

      Facebook's ads API, on the other hand, allows you to target by postal code...

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    13. Re: She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Informative.

    14. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except people volunteer that information to facebook.
      I cleaned my girlfriends facebook, she had her PO Box, street address, postal code, town, cell phone number, where she worked, THAT places address and her "job title" was "Night shift". 100% Public profile, you could be from guatamala and see that information.

    15. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good for you, aren't you the smartest of them all. Everyone should know everything, i mean that's just clear.

    16. Re:She thought she was the customer by Junior+J.+Junior+III · · Score: 0

      First they came for the livers, but I said nothing, because I had no liver...

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    17. Re:She thought she was the customer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I feel zero sympathy for anyone on banking networks who are used or abused by the systems. It's 2014. You know what you're in for, by now. If you're still stupid enough to use them, then shame on you."

      That's true as well...

    18. Re:She thought she was the customer by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      People having problems with Facebook 5 years ago had some excuse. Now, there have been loads of stories in the mainstream press (TV news, front pages of newspapers) about privacy issues regarding Facebook. If you look at a company offering you something 'for free' and don't spend a bit of time wondering what they're getting out of it, then you're going to spend your life falling for scams. In the case of Facebook, the information about what they get out of it is very public and easy to find.

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  3. "Happily married" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Facebook knows her true feelings about her husband.

  4. Hmmm ... by gstoddart · · Score: 1

    So either this lady went through a lot of steps to create a profile, or this company is lying and actually created it for her.

    I'm far more likely to believe the combination of Facebook and whatever this Zoosk thing is are the culprits.

    That's pretty slimy as far as I'm concerned.

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    1. Re:Hmmm ... by greenwow · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Sounds like what mint.com was doing. Bank of America gave them information including account numbers, names, and email addresses. mint.com then created accounts for those people without their permission. I had never heard of mint.com when they sent an email to me with the last few digits of my BoA account and the balance. Later they added information with Chase so they sent an email with my credit card balance. I had never use mint.com, but they created an account with my private information. They are scumbags even worse than these dating sites.

    2. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Looks like we have some irrational mint fanboi with mod points. They hate it when we point out all of the banking laws that scam site is breaking. We know Intuit is a garbage company, and mint's shitting all of our privacy is further proof of it.

    3. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good point. I was shocked one day when they sent an email with a list of my Bank of America accounts, masked account numbers, and balances. That should be illegal.

    4. Re:Hmmm ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I called a friend that is a product manager at Intuit about that after I received an email with my account balances despite having never signed-up for mint.com. He said Bank of America did the mail merge, and that information was never available to mint.com unless someone gave them access. While still pretty shady, it isn't as bad as it would first appear.

  5. Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Delete your Facebook account already. You can live with out it, I promise.

    1. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unacceptable. Primary point of contact.

    2. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by aahpandasrun · · Score: 1

      "I get too many telemarketers calling!" "So get rid of your phone. You can live without it" Same logic

    3. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by zlives · · Score: 1

      then deal with it and quit your bitching. You are getting exactly what you paid for.

    4. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by TWX · · Score: 1

      I'm so sorry for you.

      My friends are the ones I call and speak with in real-time or visit with. Do those that aren't willing to make the effort to communicate in real-time deserve to be called friends?

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    5. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by moofmonkey · · Score: 0

      Facebook as your primary point of contact is a blaring siren of FAIL (unless you're a hipster, in which case you already FAIL but you obviously need facebook to collectively fail with your failbook hipster "friends".)

    6. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bitching about people bitching? why dont YOU quit your bitching and let people complain about things that could change for the better. it is a free country after all. dimwit.

    7. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 1

      THen how do I troll former high school classmates

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    8. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol what fucking country are you talking about?

    9. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Half-pint+HAL · · Score: 1

      Except I'm not allowed to buy my Facebook from a different provider. While interoperability is impossible, Facebook is a monopoly.

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    10. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Somalia, obviously

    11. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Skidborg · · Score: 1

      People who actually care about you will find other ways to talk to you.

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    12. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by JackieBrown · · Score: 1

      You can always go Myspace or Friendster

    13. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not even close. Facebook it like a party line but you can always directly call anyone with a phone number.

    14. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if your friends don't use them. You can use any phone provider to talk to your friends, though.

    15. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by khellendros1984 · · Score: 1

      I don't know. Do people that you primarily communicate with using mailed letters deserve to be called friends?

      You've got a system that's simultaneously a detailed rolodex, a scheduler/calendar of events, a shared photo album, a mass e-mailer, an instantaneous communication system, and somewhere to make announcements that are visible to selected groups of people. For no direct payment of money. Oh, and it spies on you all the time and occasionally sells the results to its friends. Except for that last point, everything else is a useful feature. Whether the trade-off is worth it depends on individual preference, and the individual's acquaintances' preferences when it comes to communication.

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    16. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and how many of those people you friended on facebook are actually friends?

    17. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by bouldin · · Score: 1

      Zuck: Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard
      Zuck: Just ask
      Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS
      [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one?
      Zuck: People just submitted it.
      Zuck: I don't know why.
      Zuck: They "trust me"
      Zuck: Dumb fucks

    18. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by TWX · · Score: 1

      Oh, believe me, the smartphone has been an extremely useful tool. I've gone from pager and carrying a palm pilot (technically a USR Pilot 5000), to an alphapager and palm (a newer one), to a semi-dumb phone with a few capabilities (Moto Razr V3), to a T-Mobile G1 (HTC Dream), to a Samsung Galaxy SII. My wife has followed a similar path but without the pagers and with an analog cell phone in the mix. Neither of us would voluntarily give up our smartphones.

      The crux of it is, we don't have our lives revolve around the smartphones. We use them as a means, not an end, and they're far from the only means at our disposal.

      If someone took the time and effort needed to correspond in a meaningful way by way of personal letter then I'd probably consider them a friend, but I don't really expect that to ever be the case again.

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    19. Re: Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or just suggest to your friends that they drop Facebook too, explain why, and ask them to look for you on Google+ or whatever. Real friends would actually listen. Everyone else is just a ego compensation for your other inadequacies. If you seriously think your life will end without Facebook you have bigger problems than fake dating accounts...

    20. Re:Delete Your Facebook Account Already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      People who actually care about you will find other ways to talk to you.

      So obvious and so profound!

      (let's say, I quit skype and FB ... and some, but not all, of my friends make an effort to be in touch)

  6. Not surprised by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zoosk has awful business practices in my experiences. Lots of spam and fake profiles. Lots of bots.

  7. Zoosk will claim programmer error. by Narcocide · · Score: 1

    Anyone who has ever been a programmer at a social networking company however will know it was management's decree. This type of stuff doesn't happen on accident.

    1. Re:Zoosk will claim programmer error. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The programmer's error was working for scum.

    2. Re:Zoosk will claim programmer error. by Luthair · · Score: 1

      I'd say its more likely to be user error. The article references oauth and facebook so it seems likely the user clicked through things without reading unless there was an xss vulnerability.

    3. Re:Zoosk will claim programmer error. by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      Me, I'm less willing to give the benefit of the doubt to Facebook or the people who advertise on it.

      In fact, I just assume Facebook is a malicious entity and block it from most browsers.

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    4. Re:Zoosk will claim programmer error. by ArhcAngel · · Score: 2

      It's actually more likely user bamboozling. Since nobody on /. has a facebook account let me use a comparison you've likely run into.

      Have you ever clicked a link to download software from one of the umpteen free file hosting sites and get greeted with a page full of ads and three or more links on the page that simply say download now? You have to decipher the page to determine which link/button on the page actually downloads the file you want. Have you ever just clicked the first download now link you saw and got something OTHER than what you were expecting? Or better yet it looked like the file you wanted but once you opened the file it was actually something else! Companies that live and die by their user numbers will do anything to inflate those numbers including tricking you into agreeing to opening an account and making it so easy you didn't even know you consented.

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  8. Naturally, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zoosk denies ever setting up profiles in this way, yet their terms of service explicitly allow them to do it

    Naturally, they would never do a thing that they had written out legal language to explicitly allow them to do.

    Their programming and legal teams just happened to make the same mistake.

  9. Same problem by kamapuaa · · Score: 2

    I had the same problem, I clicked the wrong button and Facebook loaded up all these photos of my ex-girlfriends! Hopefully if I show this article to my wife she will take me back.

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  10. Poaching specimens for the Zoosk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like a user poaching tactic on Zoosk's part. Whoops, did we do that? Sorry...

  11. Scraping by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Some dating websites just scrape information from social media sites to create profiles (and damn the consequences). It's all just so they can draw in people to pay money for a matchmaking service.

  12. Why, oh, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why do people insist in posting personal details in a place like Facebook? Is it because that makes them feel important? Do they really have such pathetic lives that Facebook is a must?

    1. Re:Why, oh, why by kamapuaa · · Score: 1

      Because they talk with their friends on Facebook, and totally impersonal conversation would be a little weird?

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    2. Re:Why, oh, why by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Compared to Facebook, the people who list all their Apple devices in their signatures on MacRumors are... eh...

      I'm sorry, I'm not sure where I was going with this.

    3. Re:Why, oh, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Using Facebook for the basic stuff does not require sharing any personal information whatsoever. Not even a real name (until you get flagged, that is). Pointless comment.

    4. Re:Why, oh, why by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 1
      Indeed, I find that a service where nobody uses their real name or picture, or any information about themselves what so ever is a great way to keep in touch with old friends and former classmates.

      Just remembering all those fond memories I had with BongHit69...

      Or was that 420Batman?

      Either way, such fond memories of somebody...

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    5. Re:Why, oh, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get what your problem is. I do this just fine as do most of my friends, and we all know who we're really talking to. It's only an issue if you have real on-line friends who you don't know very well in person.

    6. Re:Why, oh, why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You clearly have never used IRC then...

  13. But she agreed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    From the fine print:

    "By accessing or using our services through a social networking site, you are authorizing Zoosk to collect, store, retain and use, in accordance with our privacy policy, any and all of your information that Zoosk has obtained from the social networking site, including to create a Zoosk profile page and account for you.”

    So by closing the pop up (the ‘service’), she was technically ‘using’ the service - and Zoosk can now create a profile page. Looks totally legit /s.

    1. Re:But she agreed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      zoosk is really scammy. it's entirely possible that these people did 'signup' with them and authorize the use of the data from facebook without realizing it.

  14. Zoo what? by Prokur · · Score: 1

    Great PR company of a service I haven't heard before. Seems that paid article on cbc is chepaer than using AdWords to attract new customers.

    1. Re:Zoo what? by ottothecow · · Score: 1
      Are you sure? They have had quite a lot of advertising across many forms. I distinctly remember a bunch of ads involving some woman's talking pillow who was kind of an asshole.

      My guess is that even with that advertising, they aren't getting enough women to sign up (because what's going to attract women better than an angry pillow berating them for spending an evening at home instead of on a date) so they resort to stuff like this to make their male customers think they actually have real people to talk to.

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    2. Re:Zoo what? by andymadigan · · Score: 1

      I've heard of them, somebody managed to steal my CC # and spend $150 on Zoosk, followed by charges at Target and Macy's. I didn't find out until Macy's called me to confirm the purchase. Bit odd the first transactions were Zoosk. You've gotta wonder what kind of site would cost $150...

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    3. Re:Zoo what? by jonbryce · · Score: 1

      A dating site where the majority of the women on there are not even looking for someone. What use is that to anyone?

    4. Re:Zoo what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Their problem is pricing. It's too expensive and both people need to be paying members in order to converse. How do you even know if the woman is a subscriber? The price should be around $5, not $30.

    5. Re: Zoo what? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      What is this "advertising" of which you speak? Oh, you mean that stuff in between songs in restaurants whose owners are too cheap to pay license fees, and to dumb to hit up Jamendo?

      These days we have AdBlock Plus, TiVo, Netflix, and lots of other great ways to avoid advertising. Lots of us simply do not experience any significant quantity of it except in still image form. Netflix content producers are beginning to use proper interstitial video, though, so I guess I still see some there.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    6. Re:Zoo what? by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      To charge lonely men money for the privilege of sending "flowers" or "notes" to women that cost nothing to create in the database.

  15. Morpheus was right by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

    Morpheus: What is Facebook? Control. Facebook is a computer-controlled world built to keep us under control in order to change a human being into this.
    [holds up an ad]
    Neo: No, I don't believe it. It's not possible.
    Morpheus: I didn't say it would be easy, Neo. I just said it would be the truth.

    1. Re:Morpheus was right by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. Facebook does what it does to make money. They don't care about controlling you outside of that. There's no extra hidden agendas.

  16. Why use Facebook by mi · · Score: 1

    Why do people insist in posting personal details in a place like Facebook?

    Here is one valid use-case for Facebook... Our kid is growing and the small army of great- and grand- parents — as well as uncles and aunts — want to see as many pictures as there can be.

    I host our collection on my own computer (FiOS rulez), but it is somewhat tedious to keep the collection up to date. Facebook, on the other hand, makes it much easier to get from snapping a picture to its world-wide availability.

    Now, I am unlikely to give-in and open an FB-account — I'd rather figure out, how to automate such uploads myself (ownCloud sounds promising). But I do not (any longer) blame other people, who choose the easy way out. Why would they include optional personal details — I don't know either. Maybe, because they don't realize, it is optional?

    --
    In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
    1. Re:Why use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would they include optional personal details â" I don't know either. Maybe, because they don't realize, it is optional?

      When they're face with scary messages like "Your account is not secure! Add a phone number to make your account secure!" and in some cases, FB starts asking your friends where you live, where you went to school etc. Then it asks you to confirm its findings.

    2. Re:Why use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet another reason not to ever put any real information in Facebook.

    3. Re:Why use Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would they include optional personal details â" I don't know either. Maybe, because they don't realize, it is optional?

      When they're face with scary messages like "Your account is not secure! Add a phone number to make your account secure!" and in some cases, FB starts asking your friends where you live, where you went to school etc. Then it asks you to confirm its findings.

      Yeah, I occasionally get that one when logging into my gmail account. At least you could argue that this is a legitimate request in that it offers you a way to recover if you have lost your password. There is one scam that Discover Card is doing for which they really deserve to get hauled onto the carpet. These days when I log into my account there is a banner up top which says something like "Federal law requires us to keep records on your income. Please click on this link and update your records." Pig fuckers! Not even Citicards has stooped this low. At least not yet.

  17. When life gives you lemons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On second thought, Zoosk is a weird place.

  18. Happily married 50 yo man seeking SWF 18-21 by deodiaus2 · · Score: 1

    I have the same problem, unfortunately my Zoosk account doesn't bring me the candidate pool that I seek,

    1. Re:Happily married 50 yo man seeking SWF 18-21 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Typical entitlement driven human response.

      Did you ever stop to consider that there might not be many women in the 18 to 21 demographic that are both aesthetically pleasing, AND looking for one-night-stands with 50 year old greasy IT douchebags?

      Of course you didn't. You just want your delusional fantasies fullfilled, and expect technology to provide.

      Newsflash-- Women are people, and have brains. They also have their own requirements about what they find and dont find attractive.

    2. Re:Happily married 50 yo man seeking SWF 18-21 by Newander · · Score: 1

      Yes. What you are describing is the essence of the joke.

      Or as we say here on /.:
      Whoosh!

      --

      Jesus saves and takes half damage.

    3. Re:Happily married 50 yo man seeking SWF 18-21 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whoosh!

  19. I created a Facebook account for my dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Neutered female pitbull age 5 became a single, never married woman age 35 (7 dog years for each human year)

    My dog's profile soon became inundated with ads for lesbian dating sites. I'm trying to imagine actually setting up a date between my pitbull and one of the women-seeking-women. Might be amusing.

  20. FTFY:Happily married 50 yo man seeking SWF 18-21 by zlives · · Score: 1

    you forgot the filthy part of your account... "Happily married 50 yo FILTHY RICH man seeking SWF 18-21"

  21. Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What the tuck is this doing here on Slashdot?

  22. Change of scenery. by blueshift_1 · · Score: 1

    Our algorithms analyzed the tones of your status updates and thought you might like a change of scenery. You're welcome

  23. Don't install facebook games by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

    This is just a friendly reminder that the purpose of Facebook games is to get your personal information. When you "install" the game you get a EULA that grants the game access to your profile. But, as far as I know, clicking on a Facebook ad should not give them your profile. The article mentions OAuth, but that should not be relevant to an advertisement.

  24. Popup ads? by tompaulco · · Score: 2

    How did she get a popup ad on facebook? I finally succumbed to getting a facebook account because that is how the big band I am in communicates. I have literally never had a popup ad while on facebook.

    --
    If you are not allowed to question your government then the government has answered your question.
    1. Re:Popup ads? by Tom · · Score: 1

      How did she get a popup ad on facebook?

      I wondered about this as well. Who in their right mind would use Facebook without an adblocker? I've seen it on a friends computer once, and couldn't even find the content that's supposedly hidden somewhere between the 300 layers of crap.

      --
      Assorted stuff I do sometimes: Lemuria.org
    2. Re:Popup ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Makes the whole thing seem dubious.

    3. Re:Popup ads? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Laypeople often say things "popped up" on their computer when they really mean it just appeared on their screen. Same way they call their PC a "hard drive".

      They heard someone saying it and try to use it themselves, like a child does when first learning a language, and get it wrong.

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
  25. And that's not the only thing.... by tekrat · · Score: 1

    After some of the post I made on Facebook, I automatically had profiles of me created by the FBI and the NSA. And dating sites as well, I suppose.....

    --
    If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
  26. no comments TFA from noncorrupted webizens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    the original article can only be commented on by those who are jacked into
    social media....

    those who understand the nature and purpose of social media are not
    jacked in. they are not commenting... a kind of irony.

    what a morbid web we weave.. by we I mean most of you :/

  27. Obviously by jcoy42 · · Score: 1

    Obviously she clicked "X" for "X"-treamly interested. Isn't that how everything works these days?

    in case of whoosh.

    --
    Never trust an atom. They make up everything.
  28. Could have been just trolled by times05 · · Score: 1

    Doesn't have to be Facebook/Zoosk's or her fault. Well not completely anyway. Could be another party doing this just to troll, maybe someone who doesn't like her.

    Think about it, why would Facebook/Zoosk create a profile of her with her real contact info? It's not uncommon for shady dating sites to use someone's pic and some info to create fake profiles, but they do it for the pretty pics and are gambling that the owner of those pics doesn't find out about it. It would be really stupid to give out the owner's real email address, since would be instantly notifying them that you are committing fraud. Companies that want to stay in business generally avoid that.

    On the other hand, third party, doing it either just for lolz or to do something bad to a specific person could easily do it. Facebook pics are out there, so is some basic profile info to make it look more legit, real email isn't hard to get especially if you know the person. I'd say they knew it would put this woman in hot water. Hell, maybe give her husband's email as backup contact.

    It's like an hour worth of work to do this to someone who is stupid enough to have their info and pic plastered all over a public web-site like Facebook. That's the part where it's her own fault, though not completely, since there are plenty of other uses for Facebook and this kind of thing doesn't happen to everyone.

    1. Re:Could have been just trolled by PPH · · Score: 1

      Probably some guy* who got tired of waiting around for that marriage to end.

      *Could also be a woman who is after her husband.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
  29. Too much like the South Park episode... by ericbrow · · Score: 1

    ...the one where all the celebrities with sexual addiction problems blame it on the alien wizard. It was Facebook that created all those dating site profiles honey, honest. Yeah, the alien wizard.

    1. Re:Too much like the South Park episode... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Whenever I have a problem, I blame the fact that there's not enough Sky Cake for everyone.

  30. Honest, honey... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey it worked for the "Virgin" Mary

  31. Fake by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A happily married Ontario woman...

    You know that story can't be true after only five words.

  32. Meh by Falos · · Score: 1

    > socnet user is surprised to learn her Facebook dataz aren't under her control
    I am shocked. Shocked, I say.

  33. Scammers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I appreciate all the "happily married" jokes and etc. but for the people who are think that she's lying or this isn't serious, I pray you don't work in security because this is a great example of how big of an issue social media linking is.

    It's gotten pervasive and everywhere lets you sign it with Facebook now, and your Facebook account is your authentication, so it's not a huge leap that via an advertisement on Facebook, a click on a n "x" box that was actually an open redirect that wasn't noticed or didn't really show anything besides registering what was needed for her Facebook account to be "authenticated" with Zoosk (it was from within Facebook, after all!) wherein Zoosk took Facebook's permissions to allow third-parties to access personal information to farm what they could from her Facebook page, and then try to get her onto the site by giving notifications that very well could have been spam as well.

    It's an incredibly scummy tactic, but it's common of scammers. Scammers aren't interested in, say, the /. crowd for example (so yes, backpats to everybody for not using Facebook), they're interested in the people who don't have the sense to look at this skeptically and instead go "Oh! Interesting! This dating website? I should check this out more."

    This woman obviously had the sense to take an incredulous, somewhat horrified look at what Zoosk had done with her personal information (probably exacerbated by the fact that she was married) and connect it with the benign event of closing an ad she'd seen previously for the website through another website that contains the personal information that somehow showed up on this other website.

    It's incredibly worrisome how much of scammer tactics have become "normalized" because people mistake it for convenience, or that it just goes under the radar or is dismissed otherwise. This is some real shady shit.

    1. Re:Scammers by PPH · · Score: 1

      I pray you don't work in security because this is a great example of how big of an issue social media linking is.

      I think the people who work "in security" are smart enough to see through most of this crap. Or people with clearances would continually be subject to blackmail by organizations more highly motivated than some scamming dating sight trying to puff up their subscriber base.

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
  34. Wasn't there a site that did this before? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wasn't there a site that did this before?
    I remember reading something like this...

  35. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts cant do any of that shit you hopeless fucking idiot

  36. Easy fix by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't use facebook

  37. Lies by Pokey.Clyde · · Score: 1

    She got caught, and now she's lying. Simple as that.

    1. Re:Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're the one who's simple. Anyone with even basic intelligence would realize there's not enough information here to make that judgement.

      Or you're paid by these scumbags.

  38. zoosk is scum by charlesr44403 · · Score: 1

    Zoosk sent me an ad where they randomly took two names from my facebook friends list, male and female, and heavily implied they were dating after meeting on Zoosk, with their stylized heart graphic. In fact they had never heard of each other. The man, my next door neighbor, was very angry and i don't blame him.

  39. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You convinced me apk's right with that weak illogical ad hominem attack alone.

  40. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do go fuck yourself with a rusty cactus.

    CAPTCHA: violate

  41. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As was said here already earlier: You only convince me apk's right http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... as you did that other replier when the best you have is illogical ad hominem attacks only.

  42. Clubs & organizations distribute info on Faceb by DutchUncle · · Score: 1

    ... rather than having their own web page, and then the only way you can find out about scheduled events etc. is if you log into Facebook. It's even more of a "walled garden" than Compuserve or AOL used to be.

  43. AdBlock by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go on, ask me if I feel the least bit bad about stealing from poor site owners by blocking these advertisements.

  44. attention seeking? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A quick Google of her name shows she has many profiles scattered all over the place to publicise her acting career.

    1. Re:attention seeking? by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      If you did a quick Google search on my name, you'd find much the same thing.

      In spite of the fact that I'm not the Australian television personality with whom I share my name.

      --
      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
  45. No problem here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    That's what you get for using facebook.

  46. And that is her story and she is sticking to it by rssrss · · Score: 1

    "A happily married Ontario woman was shocked and dismayed last January to discover that she had an active account with dating site Zoosk.com."

    At least, that is what she told her husband.

    --
    In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
  47. Occams razor says this girl is lying by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

    Subject sums it up really.

    1. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Livius · · Score: 1

      No, Facebook misusing her personal information is by far the simpler explanation.

    2. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Facebook are a bunch of shady assholes, I bet Zoosk are too - but dude, please apply Occams razor here, as if they just 'make' people a profile - bullshit.
      She's made one, got busted and is freaking out, simple as that.

    3. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by mark-t · · Score: 1

      I don't think so... something strikingly similar to what she is describing happened to me as well, although in my case, it wasn't with a dating website. The website had clearly scraped facebook for its info about me. It got my full name, my city and postal code, and the image I was using for my main facebook profile pic, exactly as she described happened to her. In my case, if it hadn't been for the image associated with my name, I wouldn't have had a clue where they got the info, but facebook is the only place I happened to ever use that particular pic, so I had a pretty good idea what happened.

    4. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

      I've had a lot of sites (eg. MyLife, Classmates.com, LocalBlox) create profiles based on my basic info (name and such) without me ever visiting their site. It's an easy way for them to boost their "user" numbers without having to actually attract users. I can easily see a dating site doing the same thing. In fact it probably created the profile the moment the ad appeared for her and had nothing to do with her clicking the close button.

    5. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Well if you've set the info to open and something else scrapes it, then it's a, your fault for leaving too much info open but also b, the fault of the dating site - not facebook.

      I wouldn't be surprised if some sleazier companies did this - but facebook probably don't need to stoop that low, yet.

    6. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by mark-t · · Score: 1

      Before that happened, I hadn't realized how much of my profile was public, but I do now, and I've long since gone through the facebook privacy settings, and turned it all off so the info is no longer publicly visible. I'm just saying that the similarity between what happened to her and what happened to me is striking, especially with regards to the actual data that they obtained, and I thought that it could be the same thing. Facebook's default privacy setting suck, and not everyone necessarily realizes until something happens that they actively need to do something to keep unknown people from finding out about them. Prior to seeing this story, I also hadn't made any connection to any particular ads that I had seen on facebook, but that is also entirely possible. As I said, the reason I connected it to facebook at all was because of the image that they had, which I happen to use as my profile pic for facebook and which isn't used for anything anywhere else.

    7. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by AbRASiON · · Score: 1

      Just a piece of advice- my personal profile is locked down you can't go to facebook.com/username and see my profile, you can't search for me. IF you're not logged in.

      IF you're logged in though? Different story, even if you do not know me at all (I have a 'spare account') you can see my profile pic, profile name, background image etc.
      These companies might have look "zooskscraper" accounts that can see that bit more than a truly anonymous one. - Worth considering.

    8. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Before that happened, I hadn't realized how much of my profile was public, but I do now, and I've long since gone through the facebook privacy settings, and turned it all off so the info is no longer publicly visible. I'm just saying that the similarity between what happened to her and what happened to me is striking, especially with regards to the actual data that they obtained, and I thought that it could be the same thing. Facebook's default privacy setting suck, and not everyone necessarily realizes until something happens that they actively need to do something to keep unknown people from finding out about them. Prior to seeing this story, I also hadn't made any connection to any particular ads that I had seen on facebook, but that is also entirely possible. As I said, the reason I connected it to facebook at all was because of the image that they had, which I happen to use as my profile pic for facebook and which isn't used for anything anywhere else.

      Does not work. Facebook considers some of your information "public", and no amount of tampering with your settings will allow you to change that: you can hide it from your profile, but it's still "public". This was part of the privacy improvements they came up with a while ago. This "public" information includes your name, profile picture, and list of contacts.

    9. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Yakasha · · Score: 1

      Subject sums it up really.

      It does? I would have figured Facebook's past actions, the actions of their "partners", previous similar complaints, and Facebook's TOU would make it not only possible, but very probable, this woman's account is accurate.

      Seriously, if you were starting a "social network" site, would you rather:
      1. Spend thousands to millions of dollars advertising your site; wait for people to join; wait several years for enough people to join to make it "social"; or
      2. Spend a few thousand dollars to sign up as a Facebook "partner" / advertiser and use the existing API to build your network from those hapless twits that still have Facebook accounts and think they're customers?

      Occam's razor says you have never started a social network site.

    10. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by mark-t · · Score: 1

      My point is that amidst all of these people here suggesting that she is lying about the dating site, the similarity of information she claims was found elsewhere and what info was gathered from myself suggests to me that she is telling the truth about what happened.

    11. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Gibgezr · · Score: 1

      CBC did a report on this, it seems that Zoosk has a deal with Facebook where they get all your info, so that creating a full profile (with picture) is a "one click" automated process. As soon as you agree to join Zoosk, you have a full profile.

      So, applying Occam's razor to this story, the simplest explanation is that she accidentally clicked the "OK" or "Next" button instead of the "Cancel" or "Close" button, right?

    12. Re:Occams razor says this girl is lying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook are a bunch of shady assholes, I bet Zoosk are too - but dude, please apply Occams razor here, as if they just 'make' people a profile - bullshit.
      She's made one, got busted and is freaking out, simple as that.

      Obviously the DEA setup a profile for her, just in off chance she has any drug dealer / user friends.

  48. Miscommunication by ZeroWaiteState · · Score: 1

    Apparently the red X has a *totally* different connotation on dating sites.

  49. This is the reason why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Stories like this are the reason why people should:

    A - Avoid Facebook altogether (better)

    OR

    B - Take some precautionary measures which include but is not limited to the following:
    1. Install Adblock extension or have a HOSTS file blacklist.
    2. Never use Facebook credentials if a 3rd party website asks for it. Never ever login with a Facebook account into a dating site (or any other "legit" site) that asks for it.
    3. Lock down your Facebook profile with high privacy settings and avoid the apps.
    4. Run your browser in a application virtualized environment, see Sandboxie.

    But wait, most people don't have the skill of figuring that out. Most people want their cookies so that the password is saved.

    Stories like this will continue to become more common.

  50. Why... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... I would put dark glasses on the dog, too.

    Just to be on the safe side.

  51. Adblockers by tbf · · Score: 1

    Those guys are exactly the reason why people have ad-blockers installed.

  52. My Cat Downloaded Those Files. by wisnoskij · · Score: 1
    --
    Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
  53. X by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that X on a pop-up ad doesn't necessarily mean close, does it?

  54. My "Anonymous Coward" account, too. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How do you think I felt after years of trying to blend in and not stand out in a crowd when I happened upon Slashdot and found out they created an account without my knowledge or approval?

  55. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by TrollingForHostFiles · · Score: 1

    Hi, AlecStaar!

    Guess you forgot to take your jagged little pill today, eh?

    Otherwise, you might remember this?

    --
    cat /dev/random
  56. Of course this is 100% bullshit by gelfling · · Score: 1

    complete lies.

  57. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK lives within 10 miles of me. Give me an assload of kickstarter cash and I'll kickstart his anus.

  58. Adblock = a "Blue Pill" illusion... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit: http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    Can AdBlock do 15 things hosts can?

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites (beyond malicious adbanners)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirected dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux botnet attacks + stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns botnet attacks + stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm botnet attacks + stop their communications to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing by adblocking + hardcoding fav sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all that & block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles + memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs).
    12.) Give you direct notepad/texteditor controlled data
    13.) Block trackers
    14.) Block spam mail
    15.) Block phishing mail

    (Answer's "NO" to each for AdBlock)

    APK

    P.S.=> Hosts yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)

    * Hosts do more w/ less @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slow ring 3 browsers) via filtering the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).

    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing + are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.

    * Addons slows usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM + excessive cpu too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... )

    Adblock doesn't do its job -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

  59. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All you can manage is to avoid disproving apk, downmodding him here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... which only convinced me he's correct.

  60. Re:AdBlock = "BLUE PILL" illusion by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    STFU, pussy.

  61. Certain parties are scared shitless of you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They minus mod your posts not proving you wrong: all indicative of my subject. They're trying to hide a better way of doing things using hosts for more speed, security, reliability and other items you noted.

  62. Yes, here's the parties involved + why by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll let Hairyfeet speak for me (as he said it best):

    "My grandfather taught me long ago that when someone tries to silence speech? You had damned well better start following the money, because it WILL be involved. But lately we've seen a LOT of places where if you don't jump on board? They do NOT debate, they sling insults and try to silence you. And wadda ya know? A LOT of that shit ends up being traced back to people cashing checks" - by hairyfeet (841228) on Wednesday November 19, 2014 @05:11AM (#48416149) Journal

    Truer words were never spoken - & whom *might* those parties be? Well, ok:

    1.) Advertisers
    2.) Makers of inferior competing "so-called 'solutions'"
    3.) Malware makers/Botnet Herders
    4.) Webmasters

    (Who, in the latter unfortunately, take a beating on adblocking - however, *IF* they & their advertiser colleagues would've payed more attention as to what goes on in their ads, ala them infecting us via malicious code which has happened TONS of times since 2004, infesting millions out there online no less? I'd never have released it... in fact, I held off until 2012, but not after I saw more malcode in ads than ever before so... out the door she went)!

    APK

    P.S.=> Each time they do it, they fail to realize others read well below the default moderation threshold, neutralizing their "further your hidden agenda" methods used on /. (of sockpuppet accounts to farm karma with for those downmods vs. those they can't beat with truth or fact):

    Doesn't matter!

    Folks see the posts of mine anyhow & truth they enumerate...

    (Thus, they're fighting a losing battle vs. myself - truth & facts always win - hence their inability to prove my points on wrong on hosts being FAR superior to adblock on many levels in abilities, efficiency, and more...)

    ... apk

  63. What's so funny, puerile Slashdotters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Jeez....the adolescent quality of the comments on this item do no reflect well on Slashdot: I don't think it is a laughing matter that someone is presented with a deceptive UI " so she "clicked on the X to close it. At least I thought I did."". What part of that is so funny? Real issue; real harm done - and it could (and does) happen to anyone, just in different guises. I hope you all get ripped off when each of you next use a credit card. It might teach you a lesson in humility.

  64. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My FREE hosts program adds speed, security, reliability & more, doing more, more efficiently vs. addons + fixes DNS' redirect security issues:

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?o...

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than:

    1.) AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/... )
    2.) Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G...
    3.) Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed/redirected dns (& overcome site redirects e.g. /. beta).

    C.) Hosts secure vs. malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... w/ less "moving parts" complexity

    D.) Hosts files yield more:

    1.) Speed (adblock & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote dns)
    2.) Security (vs. malicious domains serving malcontent + block spam/phish & trackers)
    3.) Reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable dns, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ isp level + weak vs DGA, & Fastflux + dynDNS botnets)
    4.) Anonymity (vs. dns request logs + dnsbl's).

    ---

    * Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ faster levels (ring 0) vs redundant inefficient addons (slowing slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ os, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization).
    * Addons = more complex + slow browsers in messagepassing (use a few concurrently & see) & are nullified by native browser methods - It's how Clarityray's destroying Adblock.
    * Addons slowup slower usermode browsers layering on more - & bloat RAM consumption + excessive cpu use too (4++gb extra in FireFox https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth...)

    Instead, work w/ a more capable native kernelmode part you already have - hosts (An integrated part of the ip stack)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work for the body rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen: "I am legend"

    ...apk

  65. Ask yourselves these questions... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can adblock do 15 things hosts files can for more speed, security, reliability, & more:

    1.) Secure you vs. known malicious sites/servers (beyond malicious adbanners - see 2 thru 6 below next)
    2.) Secure you vs. downed DNS servers aiding reliability
    3.) Secure you vs. DNS redirect poisoned dns servers
    4.) Protect you vs. fastflux using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    5.) Protect you vs. dynamic dns using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    6.) Protect you vs. domain generation algorithm using botnet attacks and stop their communications back to their C&C servers
    7.) Speed you up for websurfing not only by adblocking but also hardcoding favorite sites
    8.) Get you past a dnsbl you may not agree with
    9.) Keep you off dns request logs
    10.) Do all of those things and block ads (better than adblock) more efficiently in cpu cycles and memory usage
    11.) Work on ANY webbound application (think stand-alone email programs, for example).
    12.) Give you direct, easily notepad/texteditor controlled data for all of the above
    13.) Block out trackers
    14.) Block spam mails sources
    15.) Block phishing mails sources

    "?"

    * Simple YES or NO answers will do for repliers to this - that's all.

    APK

    P.S.=> The ANSWER ="NO" to each enumerated item above as far as "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" (crippled by default & 'souled-out' defeating it's very base purpose) is concerned -> http://techcrunch.com/2013/07/...

    So, *IF* you feel like doing things LESS efficiently as well -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... ontop of doing less than hosts do (by far) with more complexity + from a slower mode of operations (usermode with more messagepassing overheads vs. hosts in kernelmode, also starting up w/ the IP stack itself, before REDUNDANT inefficient addons even BEGIN to operate, & as the 1st resolver queried by the OS as well)?

    That's illogical: I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make them drink!

    ... apk

  66. True story, AdBlock vs. Hosts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    W. Palant wrote me by email 1st saying "hosts are a shitty solution" to which I replied:

    "Show us adblock can do more for added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity than hosts can, + that adblock does it more efficiently than hosts"

    Which on my latter 'point-in-challenge' on efficiency AdBlock's proven by research to be MASSIVELY inefficient -> https://blog.mozilla.org/nneth... & adblock does FAR less than hosts (especially crippled by default).

    I sent Wladimir Palant that challenge in response to his statement from 2 different email addresses I use!

    Result = Still no answer from him in regard to my challenge put to him to this very day MONTHS later - that tell you anything? It did me!

    He knows his addon is less efficient & features laden by FAR vs. hosts - Wladimir Palant RAN like a scared rabbit!

    ClarityRay's also DESTROYING AdBlock - via native browser methods to DUMP what addons you use (it can't DO THAT to hosts files).

    I only tell it how it is on hosts' superiority vs. AdBlock - Funny part is, Wladimir Palant running does too!

    Especially considering "Almost ALL Ads Blocked" has 'souled-out' -> Google And Others Reportedly Pay Adblock Plus To Show You Ads Anyway: http://news.slashdot.org/comme...

    APK

    P.S.=> Bottom-Line: Hosts = a superior solution that also fixes DNS redirect security issues (vs. browser addons & their inefficiencies + messagepassing overheads as well as myriad lack of abilities hosts have from 1 file that's part of the IP stack itself - faster, more efficient, & less redundant as well, since TCP/IP has 45++ yrs. of refinement & optimization in it, & runs in a higher CPU serviced ring of privelege & operations in kernelmode vs. slower usermode layering over browsers slowing them more, & hosts = 1st resolver queried by the OS itself also)... apk

  67. since mary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    got away with jesus things have gone downhill for the married man