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First Star War Episode 7 Trailer Released

Midnight Thunder writes: The first trailer for Star Wars Episode VII: The Force Awakens has been released. (YouTube link.) This is the first real opportunity to get a feeling for whether childhood dreams will be crushed or Disney, with the help of JJ Abrams, will be able to breath new life into the story without making it feel like a merchandising excuse.

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  1. Can Abrams correct slashdot grammar too? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Funny

    will be able to breath new life

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    1. Re:Can Abrams correct slashdot grammar too? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 5, Funny

      will be able to breath new life

      It actually does say "breathe." It's just hard to see that last "e" due to the lens flare.

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    2. Re:Can Abrams correct slashdot grammar too? by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 5, Insightful

      will be able to breath new life

      It actually does say "breathe." It's just hard to see that last "e" due to the lens flare.

      Ah; that explains the "Star War" title then too!

  2. It's all about the merchandising. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "without making it feel like a merchandising excuse."

    But if it doesn't feel like a merchandising excuse, it just won't feel like star wars. Even the original trilogy had that feel. Every alien, ship and droid seems to whisper 'action figure in stores soon.'

    1. Re:It's all about the merchandising. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      I still haven't received my "Spaceballs: The Flamethrower".

  3. You should never watch trailers from this decade by bitflusher · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They also should also rename them to spoilers!

  4. It Reminds me of by Dartz-IRL · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sitting here, watching it, I'm reminded of how awesome the trailer was for Episode 1 a long time ago and the reaction it got.

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    1. Re:It Reminds me of by JMJimmy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I was referring to the group of Stormtroopers - with the closeups, floor angles, etc. There's a very distinct difference in the shooting style of the originals, whether intentional or not, the shots with the empire tended to be wide/mid shots and very few closeups or low shots, with the exception of Darth Vader and the Emperor. They were also often in larger sets/environments. The rebel shots on the other hand tended to be mid/close shots on smaller sets or low shots. They were often in smaller sets. This gave contrast and really supported the david vs goliath feel. When you apply "gritty" mid/close shots in a small environment with Stormtroopers then it obliterates that contrast and just doesn't feel right.

      You can go off about SW nerds all you want but there's a reason they exist. They may not be able to illiterate why or go too far in trying to do so but there are reasons why those films stand the test of time and have such a fanbase.

  5. Well, let's face it ... by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is the first real opportunity to get a feeling for whether childhood dreams will be crushed or Disney, with the help of JJ Abrams, will be able to breath new life into the story without making it feel like a merchandising excuse.

    Let's face it, it is a merchandising excuse.

    Di$ney will have fresh Star Wars everything on sale.

    The movie will be guaranteed to have some cloyingly cute character which can be marketed to kids.

    Taco Bell and McDonalds will have special toys.

    They'l re-re-re-re-release extended cuts or special editions of the damned movies.

    Little children will have R2D2 pyjamas and underpants. And diapers. And sippy cups. And hats. And halloween costumes.

    Disney will eventually put out 9 more movies, of ever diminishing artistic merit.

    There will be friggin' Ewok porn.

    I'm nostalgic about the first series. I mostly liked the second series but it had some issues.

    But I tried to watch Episode I with my wife, and within five minutes of Jar Jar Binks appearing on screen she said "if he's in the rest of this film I'm leaving". So now if I want to watch it I'm on my own, and the pod racer scene is mostly how I calibrate my home theater.

    I honestly can't decide if I will see this or not.

    But let's not for a minute pretend this is being done for any reason besides the zillions of dollars Disney expects to wring from this franchise.

    If they were doing a billion a year in merchandising for Cars years after it was released, you won't believe the marketing blitz which will accompany this.

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    1. Re:Well, let's face it ... by doconnor · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Unlike most media companies, Disney takes the long view of merchandising. Anyone was can make a movie that sells merchandising for a year or so, but Disney knows that for a movie to be able to keep selling merchandise for 70+ years, like Snow White has, the movie has to have a very appealing and timeless story to it. The original trilogy has that long term appeal. That is something Disney is going to try to recapture.

  6. Summary of Trailer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. Aren't you a little black to be a stormtrooper?
    2. A beach ball droid?
    3. Oooo! Nice X-Wing shot. Okay I might go and watch this.
    4. That sword's a bit silly. You're still going to lose a hand if the light-sabre slices through the metal bit!
    5. Millenium Falcon! Woohoo!

    1. Re:Summary of Trailer by Immerman · · Score: 4, Funny

      4) That sword *almost* makes sense. I mean what else are you going to make an anti-lightsaber hilt guard out of except more lightsaber? Only problem is that instead of catching your opponent's blade like a traditional guard, this one just guides it directly towards your emmitter (and hands), which it will then presumably slice through without problems.

      Oh, wait, Wookipedia says they do have a lightsaber-shorting material in the universe, so wrap the mechanical bits in that and it would be a formidable weapon for lightsaber dueling, though a simple cortosis guard would make even more sense. But hey, he's presumably a Sith, and when have they ever chosen practicality over looking badass?

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    2. Re:Summary of Trailer by quantaman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      1. Aren't you a little black to be a stormtrooper?

      This seems like canon, I thought all the stormtroopers were clones of Jango Fett.

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    3. Re:Summary of Trailer by Imagix · · Score: 4, Informative

      The original clone troopers were... but somewhere between Ep III and IV, it was opened up to conscripts.

    4. Re:Summary of Trailer by Immerman · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Hey, he's at least middle age by the time we meet him as Vader - he probably reached the point where he realized his awesome saber-sphere was more dangerous to himself than his enemies and got back to the basics. Besides, his master is clearly a fan of the "tear them apart with the force" school of combat, which has obviously rubbed off on him. Lots of force-choking after all, but did you ever see him threatening anyone with his saber?

      I suspect he kept it around as a primarily as a ceremonial piece, maybe some nostalgia from the good old days. And possibly because Force users apparently have some sort of Highlander-esque attachment to ritualized sword fighting. I mean sure it's great that your sword can reflect bullets, and maybe the Force will let you sense the incoming shot at your back, but all it takes is one idiot with a shotgun and you've had it.

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    5. Re:Summary of Trailer by sexconker · · Score: 3, Funny

      - Unintentionally comical Sudden Black Man
      - Comical Soccer Ball Bot
      - Unintentionally comical Desert Box Cycle
      - Hilarious "trying to hard to be edgy" Cross Saber
      - Shitty voice over

      + X-Wings
      + Millenium Falcon

      On a scale of Midi-chlorians to Yoda, this trailer is a Jar Jar Binks.

  7. Re:Apparently it's not for kids... by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well, Star Wars has been known to have serious consequences for youth with side effects such as lifelong virginity.

  8. I see nothing exciting here by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Informative

    This trailer is getting lots of hype but has very little content. I know, it's only 88 seconds long but really what is in it? Not much. Yeah. we see the Millenium Falcon again. We see a spiffy new kind of multi-blade light sabre. We see some other clever method of moving around faster than the best that us poor feeble humans can walk. We see some other nifty little robot. But none of that really tells us much about the movie itself; it could just as well be a teaser for Disney's toy catalog for next Christmas.

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  9. Lightsaber crossguard wtf by kruach+aum · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's not something you can do to a lightsaber goddammit. And why to the crossguard beams look like they're on fire?

    1. Re:Lightsaber crossguard wtf by Piata · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The stupid part is it's not even an effective crossguard. There's a metal section close to the hilt so you can easily cut the crossguard off. Congrats on making a (most likely) primary antagonist look like an idiot. Unless they intented Luke Skywalker to show a juvenille Sith how moronic his added bling is in an actual fight...

    2. Re:Lightsaber crossguard wtf by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Interesting

      That's not something you can do to a lightsaber goddammit.

      Ahem. Actually, it makes a kind of sense: it always bothered me how Star Wars lightsabers didn't have any kind of hilt/crossguard, which should have made it almost trivially easy for their opponent's to simply slide their lightsaber down the blade and slice off their opponents hand. Maybe someone in the universe finally realized that with a crossguard every lightsaber duel wouldn't end with someone loosing a hand?

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    3. Re:Lightsaber crossguard wtf by TheRaven64 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Which is exactly WHY having a group of religious nuts running around 'guarding' the universe by wielding energy swords with no hilts was completely ridiculous in the first place, especially when that very same universe was also populated by people wielding weapons with both physical and energy based ammo that simply would beat the reaction time of any human, force or no force

      I wondered why no one ever came up with the idea of a blaster that fired three bolts in a slightly spreading triangle. The lightsaber is a line - it can only block two of them, no matter who fast its wielder is.

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  10. CGI by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Most of the trailer is CGI, which makes sense at this point. The movie won't be released for another year, so this early on most of the finished shots would be fairly generic CGI stuff that was being worked on in parallel to the main shooting. The hard part is all the editing and incorporating CGI into the shots with the actors, and they've only just wrapped up the shooting this month. That's what they'll be working on for the next several months.

    One thing about the lightsaber scene, at first I was like "that's a lame gimmicky lightsaber", but then looking at it more closely, it doesn't have a pure even glow like a normal lightsaber. It looks more like fire and less refined. So my hunch is that sith guy had to figure out how to fabricate the weapon on his own without any guidance, so it's this crude, barely controlled weapon that has to vent extra energy so it doesn't blow up or melt or something. Yeah, that was a pretty geeky analysis.

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  11. TIE-Fighters flying in Atmosphere?!?!?!?! by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Doesn't JJ know that Ion Engines don't generate enough thrust to propel so much as a paper airplane through atmosphere, much less an entire TIE-Fighter And even if those Twin Ion Engines could generate enough thrust, TIE-Fighers don't have control surfaces or the proper aerodynamics to fly?!?!?! Is he that big of a moron or is he purposely out to make the sequels worse than the prequels? And don't get me started on the sheer stupidity and uselessness of the crossguard on that Sith's lightsaber UTTER IDIOCY!

    1. Re:TIE-Fighters flying in Atmosphere?!?!?!?! by QilessQi · · Score: 5, Funny

      I read your entire post in Comic Book Guy's voice.

    2. Re:TIE-Fighters flying in Atmosphere?!?!?!?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nothing in Star Wars has ever been aerodynamic, and any realistic application of physics (without assumptions of unknown technology compensating for our perceived errors) would cause the entire universe to fall apart. Did you know that lasers are invisible and definitely don't fire in pulses that move slowly enough to be seen? If you claim that the "lasers" are actually bolts of plasma or something, why don't you allow a similar rationalization for other phenomena such as TIEs or other in atmosphere?

      Regarding TIE fighters in the atmosphere, you may refer to Episodes 5 and 6 (iirc wrt the special editions, TIEs are shown to operate around Cloud City on Bespin and the forest moon of Endor). At the very least, atmospheric flight has been featured prominently in the video games, especially Rogue Squadron.

      Regarding the lightsaber, why is a crossguard automatically stupid? They are practical and exist in real life, and what else is going to stop a lightsaber besides another? Also note that said lightsaber looks unstable. There may be more to it than appears.

  12. Re:I agree, except: by tompaulco · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Millenium Falcon shot: I hope he's got a new pilot, because I think Han's getting too old for this. Also: 25+ years later and they're still using original TIE fighters?

    Harrison Ford still has a valid pilot's license.
    As far as technology goes, what I observed from the episodes 1-3 is that they had better technology available than they did in 4-6, like double bladed light sabers, unlike the paltry one bladed ones available in the future. It's almost like their society is failing and their technology is limited to only what has already been produced and hasn't been destroyed yet. They should count themselves lucky to have TIE fighters.

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  13. Re:Remarkably little lens flare. by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Funny

    It would be the greatest act of trolling in history if he popped on screen early into the movie yelling "Surprise! Yousa think meesa not in this movie! Yousa wrong! Hahahahaha!" and then there was a long Bollywood-style dance scene with dozens of Jar Jars singing and dancing on screen XD

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  14. Re:The Star Wars universe has always been impracti by osu-neko · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It's called "space cheese", and you can't ruin the Star Wars universe by adding more cheese, because the entire thing was made of cheese to begin with! It's kinda its whole schtick.

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  15. Re:It worked in blazing saddles by gstoddart · · Score: 4, Funny

    the "D" is silent.

    Hmmm ... but ouchebag just doesn't have the same ring to it.

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  16. oh yes by hackertourist · · Score: 4, Funny

    50 seconds worth of film in the trailer and it includes a bloody lens flare.

  17. Re:I agree, except: by Maxwell · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Because you cant see the back of it, where the rooster tail is?

    My though is why do the TIE's fire? blasters go straight. If you aren't lined up, what's the point of firing?

  18. Re:I agree, except: by Noah+Haders · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Also: 25+ years later and they're still using original TIE fighters?

    The US and many other countries are still flying the top gun f16s, and that was 20 years ago.

  19. Re:I agree, except: by Anonymous+Brave+Guy · · Score: 3, Funny

    I guess my reaction to the trailer is: "I've got a bad feeling about this."

    Indeed. A new JJ Abrams trailer often seems to be followed by millions of voices crying out in terror. I guess time will tell whether they will suddenly be silenced on release day.

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  20. Re:I agree, except: by Longjmp · · Score: 4, Funny

    Light saber technology is not the best example, ...

    Obi Wan Gilette: "Heck, we'll make one with 5 blades!"
    (or was it Wilkinson?)

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  21. Early opinions seem positive to me .... by King_TJ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I've seen this trailer shared around Facebook all morning and many of my friends who are long time Star Wars fans are optimistic, based on the little bit shown.

    Personally, I feel like part of the reason the original 3 movies were viewed as so superior to episodes 1-3 had a lot to do with the limitations of the technology of the time preventing everything from being "overdone".

    Starr Wars featured enough visually amazing things (from the Imperial Star Destroyer coming on the screen and viewers slowly realizing just how massive it was, to each one of the interesting robots) that appreciating them fully required not cluttering the scenes up with too much other eye candy or content. Back in 1977, that wasn't an issue because it was difficult and time-consuming enough to create these things that nobody would make the mistake of putting too many of them in one scene.

    The computer CGI capabilities of today made it too easy to make scenes too "busy" and cheapen the value of individual creatures, backdrops, weapons, spaceships or robots. The prequel movies felt like they were trying to see how many thousands of objects they could render at the same time in some of the battle scenes. (EG. Jedi knights chopping and hacking away at robots in wave after wave.) Believability suffered.

    If they go back to simple sets like the desert of Tatooine and stop going "CGI crazy" with every single background, I think there's a good chance they'll achieve the original Star Wars feel we all know and love. (And yeah, no insipid characters like Jar Jar either.)

  22. Re:I agree, except: by Culture20 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Infinite ammo, and the ship might jink into the shots. Why not fire?

  23. Re:There may REALLY be A New Hope after all- by 0123456 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't give a rats ass about piddly crap like light saber hilts, I just want a movie that has actual dialogue, plot and acting.

    In a JJ Abrams movie?

    This will have explosions, lens flare, and time travel. And the ending will suck.

  24. Re:Remarkably little lens flare. by jfengel · · Score: 3

    The lens flare that was there was actually well used, when the Falcon went up into the sun. It helped highlight a dramatic moment. I thought that was good work.

    Once. The problem is that he over-uses the trick.

  25. Re:I agree, except: by operagost · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not infinite ammo! You have to press F9 to recharge them, and then your MGLT drops. Don't even have shield from which to redirect charge, dang widow makers.

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  26. It's only plausible... by denzacar · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...until bastards go to four blades.

    Now we're standing around with our cocks in our hands, selling three blades and a strip.
    Moisture or no, suddenly we're the chumps. Well, fuck it. We're going to five blades.

    Sure, we could go to four blades next, like the competition. That seems like the logical thing to do.
    After all, three worked out pretty well, and four is the next number after three. So let's play it safe.
    Let's make a thicker aloe strip and call it the Mach3SuperTurbo. Why innovate when we can follow?
    Oh, I know why: Because we're a business, that's why!

    You think it's crazy? It is crazy. But I don't give a shit. From now on, we're the ones who have the edge in the multi-blade game.
    Are they the best a man can get? Fuck, no. Sith is the best a man can get.

    What part of this don't you understand? If two blades is good, and three blades is better, obviously five blades would make us the best fucking saber that ever existed. Comprende?
    We didn't claw our way out of a sarlacc pit to the top of the saber game by clinging to the two-blade industry standard.
    We got here by taking chances. Well, five blades is the biggest chance of all.

    Here's the report from Engineering. Someone put it in the bathroom: I want to wipe my ass with it.
    They don't tell me what to inventâ"I tell them. And I'm telling them to stick two more blades in there.
    I don't care how. Make the blades so thin they're invisible. Put some on the handle.
    I don't care if they have to cram the fifth blade in perpendicular to the other four, just do it!

    You're taking the "light" part of "light saber" too literally, grandma. Cut the strings and soar. Let's hit it.
    Let's roll. This is our chance to make saber history. Let's dream big. All you have to do is say that five blades can happen, and it will happen.
    If you aren't on board, then fuck you. And if you're on the board, then fuck you and your father.
    Hey, if I'm the only one who'll take risks, I'm sure as hell happy to hog all the glory when the five-blade saber becomes the fencing tool for the Gal-a- "this is how we cut the hands off now"-xay.

    People said we couldn't go to three. It'll cost a fortune to manufacture, they said. Well, we did it.
    Now some egghead in a lab is screaming "Five's crazy?"
    Well, perhaps he'd be more comfortable in the labs at Coruscant, working on fucking electrics. Rotary blades, my white ass!

    Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we should just ride in Empire's wake and make blasters. Ha!
    Not on your fucking life! The day I shadow a penny-ante outfit like the Empire is the day I leave the saber game for good, and that won't happen until the day I die!

    The market? Listen, we make the market. All we have to do is put her out there with a little jingle.
    It's as easy as, "Hey, cutting with anything less than five blades is like scraping your beard off with a dull hatchet."
    Or "You'll be so smooth, you'll make the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs."
    Try "Your neck is going to be so friggin' soft, someone's gonna walk up and tie a goddamn Medal of Bravery under it."

    I know what you're thinking now: What'll people say? Mew mew mew. Oh, no, what will people say?!
    Grow the fuck up. When you're on top, people talk. That's the price you pay for being on top.
    Which Sith is, always has been, and forever shall be, Amen, five blades, sweet Jesus in heaven.

    Stop. I just had a stroke of genius.
    Are you ready? Open your mouth, baby birds, cause Mama's about to drop you one sweet, fat nightcrawler.
    Here she comes: Put another aloe strip on that fucker, too. That's right.
    Five blades, two strips, and make the second one lather. You heard meâ"the second strip lathers.
    It's a whole new way to think about swords. Don't question it. Don't say a word.
    Just key the music, and call the chorus girls, because we're on the edgeâ"the saber's edgeâ"and I feel like dancing.

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  27. Re: I agree, except: by Stickerboy · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Nah, you're overthinking it. Episodes 4-6 are about the rebels living on the ragtag fringe of galactic society. Think of what cars tend to look like in the poorer sections of Mexico. Shade tree mechanics and barely running junk. Episodes 1-3 were most of the time centered on the heart of the Republic when not in battle. Shiny, ergonomic, aesthetically pleasing. And when the Sith and the Empire took power the newest tech became blunt instruments of power.

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  28. Re: I agree, except: by sexconker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    not really there are lightsaber resistant metals

    That's "expanded universe" bullshit, which is less valid canonically than the fucking Star Wars ride at Disneyland.
    Canon hierarchy goes:

    Original Trilogy
    Original Trilogy toy line
    Original Trilogy Pez dispensers
    Holiday Special
    Second Trilogy
    Second Trilogy toy line
    Disneyland ride
    Third Trilogy
    Third Trilogy toy line
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    "Expanded universe" "novels"
    Comic books
    Video games
    Shitty cartoon series
    Pogs