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James Watson's Nobel Prize Goes On Auction This Week
HughPickens.com writes: Nicholas St. Fleur reports at The Atlantic that James Watson, the famed molecular biologist and co-discoverer of DNA, is putting his Nobel Prize up for auction on Thursday. He's the first Nobel laureate in history to do so. In 2007, Watson, best known for his work deciphering the DNA double helix alongside Francis Crick in 1953, made an incendiary remark regarding the intelligence of black people that lost him the admiration of the scientific community. It made him, in his own words, an "unperson." That year, The Sunday Times quoted Watson as saying that he felt "inherently gloomy about the prospect of Africa" because "all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours—whereas all the testing says not really." Watson has a history of making racist and sexist declarations, according to Time. At a science conference in 2012, Watson said of women in science, "I think having all these women around makes it more fun for the men but they're probably less effective." To many scientists his gravest offense was not crediting Rosalind Franklin with helping him deduce the structure of DNA.
Watson is selling his prized medallion because he has no income outside of academia, even though for years he had served on many corporate boards. The gold medal is expected to bring in between $2.5 million and $3.5 million when it goes to auction. Watson says that he will use the money to purchase art and make donations to institutions that have supported him, such as the University of Chicago. He adds that the auction will also offer him the chance to "re-enter public life." "I've had a unique life that's allowed me to do things. I was set back. It was stupid on my part," says Watson. "All you can do is nothing, except hope that people actually know what you are."
Watson is selling his prized medallion because he has no income outside of academia, even though for years he had served on many corporate boards. The gold medal is expected to bring in between $2.5 million and $3.5 million when it goes to auction. Watson says that he will use the money to purchase art and make donations to institutions that have supported him, such as the University of Chicago. He adds that the auction will also offer him the chance to "re-enter public life." "I've had a unique life that's allowed me to do things. I was set back. It was stupid on my part," says Watson. "All you can do is nothing, except hope that people actually know what you are."
Do you ever notice how enamored with American football the Chicago population is? How much money they dump into the Chicago Bears? Oh, how I wish that I would be wrong but often science is meant to be inflammatory. The testing simply shows that the people of Chicago are slovenly drunks who cannot help but repose in sloth upon their reclining chairs in their own pitiful squalor. How can we help the people of Chicago when all of our policies revolve around thinking of them as good decent hardworking people?
About a third of the Chicago population is German. Genetically, therefore they have instilled in them a 'Crazy Fourth Reich Fever' that millennia of conditioning by the BLACK Forest of Germany and they simply only want to fight and invade other peaceful peoples that are doing nothing but contributing to the advancement of the human race. Alas, my mind is tortured that nature could be so cruel as to instill a fine specimen like the German with such brutal and total warring instinct. But we simply cannot be able to even begin to help Chicago out of shit-hole status unless we come to terms with their genetically corrupted DNA structure. I know this may seem shocking to you lay people but I have suffered as Galileo has suffered. Science requires I tell you the truth that I seem to have no scientific basis for yet I know deep down in the pit of my Swedish-American stomach to be true.
Another third of the Chicago population is Irish. Genetically the Irish have evolved in an inherently beautiful land that has caused them to drink heavily whenever outside of this land. This is to deal with the squalid landscapes of Chicago. Blame them not, they are only following the unavoidable bonds of nature that tie into their DNA and make them wholesale worthless drunks. There is no hope for them and, verily, we cannot hope to even get them into rehab until we understand that there simply is no rehabilitation for them. Their origin country has a short pitiful record that I can't seem to find records on regarding any suppressors or instigators prior to being a poor island nation hell bent on alcoholism. Oh, if only my scientific inklings were wrong! How I wish I wasn't the one that has to break the news to you. Woe is all that I can feel for having to inform you that genetically the Irish are inferior.
The final third of the Chicago population is Polish. The Poles of Chicago are a daft and rotund people but it is not their fault. The DNA has been shaped by thousands of years of unhealthy food. The cold winters of Poland and Chicago force them indoors where they cannot possibly be industrious but have to sit at microscopes and furrow their brows in a vain attempt to understand these things that I have discovered. Even my high minded Libertarian business attitude can't provide enough jobs for these idle drones. Genetically they suffer from 'Polack Slack' and our policy towards helping them past working on the dock and losing weight will forever fail until we come to accept this. It pains me so to break this news to you but down in my genetically superior innards this idea has been borne and I know it to be true. I know it.
The tests indicate that our great nation would probably be more effective if Chicago and its descendents didn't exist at all. Genetically they will forever be poor and stupid, attached to the glass teat clamoring for more concussions while wallowing about in their fetid sties. Drunk and unable to form simple sentences, our once prosperous country will be held back from truly succeeding.
Ball's in your court, James.
My work here is dung.
anyone that was awake during biology remembers that our skulls are shaped differently and more recently medical science shows that our immune systems are not quite the same. oh and doctors currently take a different consideration when given 2 patients over 50, one african & one caucasian.
i don't know about women & their intelligence, but they don't have testicles, so their muscles will develop slower. shake your angry (smaller) fists at the sky god, but that's the way it is. does that mean we shouldn't let them be firefighters? no, but they should be given the same physical test.
now why are there women's divisions for intellectual competitions?
It's obvious that what he said about blacks is racist just as it's obvious that what he said about women is sexist. But what the article doesn't say is whether or not it's true. Do blacks test lower on intelligence tests and, if so, has anyone tried to figure out why? Or was Watson just blowing smoke up everyone's collective ass?
Who was the 3rd worker again, that got 'stonewalled' out of credit again?
Same reason for the Sports. The Girlz get on betta wit udah Girlz. What would YOU rather sea? Too Girlz jiggle on dahe court or some udah combuhnashun? I breast this case.
What kind of person buys medals? The point of a Nobel Prize (or a military decoration, or whatever) is not the shiny thing, it's the reminder of an achievement.
Liberty - Security - Laziness - Pick any two.
I'd be hoping people DON'T actually know what you are...
Mister James Watson is a great example of how the self-righteous left-wing people fail miserably in the presence of facts - in one of his visits in a Greek university our (yes, i am Greek) left-wing foolish pricks (most of them not even students) did what (Greek - and not only) left-wing people usually do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DouJCVaokXg
Science is racist and sexist? Wrongthinker!
Watson was "brash but charming" for his entire career, until he became and old man and his inability to observe social mores wasn't so charming anymore, in fact in became a little creepy (I remember a TV interview in which the female interviewer was clearly highly uncomfortable even talking to him, as if he'd hit on her off camera). His book "The Double Helix", the account of his discovery of the structure of DNA along with Francis Crick, in sometimes-competition sometimes-collaboration with Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin, and outright competition with Linus Pauling, made him and Crick famous. Watson and Crick both came across in the book as being brash as hell, bulls in the China shop of old school English academia. But hey... they discovered the structure and won the Nobel Prize!
So when Torvalds goes off calling highly proficient engineers morons on public mailing lists, he's defended as doing what's necessary to run a large project. But as he gets older he might find that at some point that behavior isn't going to be tolerated, and all of these earlier incidents are going to be recalled.
http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2007/10/james-watson-tells-inconvenient-truth_296.php
The sad part is trying to figure out ways to biologically increase the IQ is pretty much the only way to gets blacks out of the poverty and violence. But even approaching that subject would just get you called an evil Hitler racist and you would lose all forms of empolyment. Promising avenues would be testosterone suppression drugs or encouraging interracial breeding. A lot of the smart black people you know actually have >= 25% white genes (Obama, Colin Powell, Tiger Woods come to mind).
So yes it is not skin color that is the root causation but because interracial breeding is rare skin color is pretty much a near 100% correlation to many biological differences in humans. And that's exactly what Watson said.
Your comment is extremely racist.
You're goddamn straight it is. The point is that any population -- no matter how high and lofty it is can be the target of stupid shit attributed to their genetic structure with "just so" fallacies. He makes inflammatory statements, doesn't even offer correlation as evidence for them and completely ignores socioeconomic conditions of even the past two hundred years.
... oh, I don't know, the slave trade ... and then just "painfully" wish you were wrong. Notice how I apologized for having to be the one to first acknowledge something I'm not proving.
How hard is it to turn James Watson's high minded lofty DNA superiority complex against his home city? Not hard at all, it turns out. Simply cherry pick from painfully recent history the horrible stereotypes and wars that their ancestors have and totally ignore any outside forces like
What blows my mind is that Africa was for tens of thousands of years in the same state that the rest of the world was in -- hell it's the birthplace of homo sapiens. And the time scale we need to talk about for DNA to change is at the very least tens of thousands of years. 25 million years of human evolution and James Watson measures 'genetic skin-color-intelligence correlation' from his apparently very short knowledge of history. Let's be generous and say he actually considered the past two thousand years which would be odd that he chose not to acknowledge that Europe's age of colonialism had something to do with Africa's current state.
Just like my post listed zero gene expressions, I'm not aware of any he's presented backing his statements. Furthermore, how would one divorce the nature versus nurture in such a test? The long history of racial discrimination the world over would need to be carefully controlled out of the experiment and the fact of the matter is that you can't. I'm not a Nobel prize winning geneticist and even I recognize this.
My work here is dung.
Just because the politically correct term it racist. Does not mean it's untrue.
E. O. Wilson called Watson that when Watson took over the Biology department at Harvard. Wilson called him the most unpleasant man he ever met.
But Wilson admits that Watson did motivate him to move beyond the stamp-collecting stage into more disruptive work in evolution.
This man is a victem of the politically moderated speech problem. He stated his beliefs and was then considered anti-female and anti black. In reference to black, native people I do not find it outlandish to suppose that there is little demand for esoteric reasoning as they are busy enough trying to eek out a living. I further do not think it is offensive to state that peoples' minds and social customs adapt to what is needful to survive. Therefore I would expect it to be very rare for native people, not exposed heavily to western life, may not have activated abilities in the mind that are more common in urban cultures. That is not looking down on anyone. People simply adapt their minds to their needs. As far as the remarks about female scientists in the workplace he is on target. The men probably enjoyed the company and therefore the men may not be as concentrated on their work. It does not attack the ability of women at all. It points to the difficulty in mixing sexes in some jobs. The notion of non-offensive speech is killing free speech.
GO ahead, you stick your head in the sand and pretend the obvious isn't smacking against your version of reality.
See my comment "interesting timing" on the Slashdot article about the day in the life at CERN (ATLAS) of a SOUTH AFRICAN WOMAN who is a SCIENTIST.
Also, Mr. Watson should donate anything made over $5 in honor of the woman he neglected to credit in his research.
Whether he is a racist or not — indeed, whether he was right or not — he was, undoubtedly, a brilliant scientist. To turn him away from scientific pursuits was not only unfair to him, but simply foolish of the rest of us — plain and simple. Worse, for organizations receiving government research grants (that's nearly all higher education institutions) to have done that, was unconstitutional too.
At least, Mel Gibson — a similarly brilliant actor and director — kept doing, what he does best, even after his (alleged) racism became well-publicized... His probable antisemitism hurts me for one, but I still consider "Apocalypto" and "The Passion of Christ" to be master-pieces... It is too bad, Mr. Watson had not been able to create his due to his thoughtcrime.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
The article says "He said he is selling his prized medallion because he has no income outside of academia, even though for years he had served on many corporate boards. It also says that he will use the money to re-enter public life.
How odd. He still has an office at Cold Spring Harbor and he comes in to work fairly often. He still attends functions, fundraisers, and lectures there. He also has a very nice house on the lab's grounds that overlooks the Long Island sound. I can't imagine the laboratory is ungrateful with his retirement package. So he's still in public life and he's living a very nice life. I don't understand the article.
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To buy the medal and give it to Rosalind's heirs
are behind many traits. I wouldn't be surprised if they are behind intelligence. In fact, I would expect it.
Look, east Africans are much better long distance runners. Why? Genetics.
West Africans tend to be much more muscular. Why? Genetics.
Danes are happier than most of the people on the planet. Why? Genetics.
Ashkenazi Jews are prone to higher intelligence (5 pts) and greater anxiety and neuroticism. Why? Genetics.
American Indians look surprisingly like Nepalese. Yep. Genetics. They are closely related.
Watson's statement is probably pretty racist. That doesn't make it false.
In that vain, isn't a statement like "Oh, you San Bushmen, you people are all so happy", also racist? Or "you Danes, you are all so happy"? It is a generalization of a race, after all.
I lived in what is now the "Democratic Republic of the Congo" for three years, so I have at least personal anecdotal knowledge.
1) Relatively recent colonial history means that there was no native bureaucracy able to run the countries when the colonial powers left.
2) Dictators took over, and most dictators don't really want to make the country better, instead they just want power and money.
3) History of tribal politics means that when someone takes power they give rewards to their tribe at the cost of the other tribes.
4) Lack of national-level control means that it's difficult to exploit the natural resources.
5) Lack of government responsibility means that when countries do exploit the national resources very little of the money ends up in the hands of the workers (or the country).
6) Lack of government funding for educational facilities means that there is a continuing shortage of qualified local skilled labour. (It was quite common for teachers to charge students a fee to write finals, since the teachers got very little salary.)
I'm not liking this renewed interest in race. In this society, intelligence is paramount. It determines how well you do on tests in school, which determines if you continue your education, which determines where you go in life and how successful you are. It determines how violent you are, how trustworthy you are, if you're lazy or if you're a hard worker, if you're impulsive or if you have self-control, so on and so on...
The more intelligent you are, the more human you are.
And I'm not even criticizing that, but rather, setting the stage for why it hurts when I hear people say that blacks are mostly unintelligent. It's dehumanizing, which in turn justifies the unjustifiable. It's shameful, which lowers self-esteem and the will to even try.
This society, which is built upon the concept that a man can pursue his own destiny and happiness, has been known to enslave blacks and separate the races. This society has a history of controlling people, limiting their destiny, and forcing them into servitude based entirely on the color of their skin even after abolishing slavery.
We had laws on miscegenation, ostensibly to protect the white race of course... Can you justify that now? You don't want to pollute your family bloodline with inferior genes right? Maybe you think that ought to be a law again?
We had laws forbidding blacks from owning firearms. Look at the state of the nation today. Which group is using those guns to kill other people more than most? Maybe we should go back to banning them right? It would be the technocrat's answer wouldn't it?
There were laws keeping blacks separate from whites in both schools and neighborhoods. You want your pure, intelligent kids to be safe right? They are after all, the future of the country. You wouldn't want them to come under the wrong influence right?
Blacks are also bad for property values. I don't like this either. But you know, there's probably a scientific reason for it. Insurance probably goes up too. After all, you're living in a dangerous place. You wouldn't want little Timmy to get hurt by the black people...
For a reason you can guess, I want to find some explanation for Africa and black people in general... but I haven't found anything yet. There's no way I know to explain away this racial shame. All I can do is impotently complain, and watch as my country slowly slips back into the past, both online and on the streets.
So here is a guy who is pawning his medals after a lifetime in academia having about as successful a career as is possible in science; and at the same time some douche with a 2 year old MBA is trying to figure out "Ferrari, or Lamborghini?"
One career will change the lives of pretty much everybody, and the other will involve being rewarded for raping pension plans.
One career will bring a lifetime of intellectual satisfaction and the other will bulk up an inner psychopath.
Yes our civilization is fairly broken.
The thing is that these are limits of the tests and we actually do not know whether black African people are less smart, equally smart or smarter than the global average. The best assumption we have is equal intelligence on average (disregarding illnesses that decrease intelligence and that could be more prevalent in areas with poor medical infrastructure). It is a reasonable assumption, but it is just an assumption.
The two main problems with intelligence tests are that they have a bias for education (people with higher education get better scores without being more intelligent) and a target culture (people in the test target culture get higher scores). There are no test that can eliminate the education bias or the cultural dependency.
On the other hand, cultural factors can be a serious problem and many African cultures are vastly different with regards to things that make western culture tick, such as punctuality, correctness, etc. and some people cannot deal with that. These are not factors connected to intelligence though.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
I've seen it myself. Now from personal experience I know many African Americans that are brilliant people. The tests Watson refers to are culturally biased and so yes will show certain groups as inferior to others. But it's well known at this point that this is true - the test are culturally biased. So give a test given to white U.S. kids to kids in the various countries of Africa and sure - the kids in the latter will likely test lower.
Has nothing to do with brain capacity and everything to do with culture.
Someone please hand me the world's tiniest violin.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
you should check out the documentary Idiocracy.
Blacks are inferior to Asians.
rather just some sort of justification for your irrational bigotry and hatred.
Please read the Bell Curve. Its mostly not about race, its about IQ, or 'g'. And how modern society segregates by IQ.
There are racial differences. Populations have statistics. And individuals are individuals --there are tall asians even if the pop ave is shorter than other races. Brains are just another organ.
This suggests, some sort of absolute IQ measurement should be developed — so that differences between generations in a population, or contemporary populations of different locales can be meaningfully measured. One obvious application would be to track the efficiency of public education, but there can, of course, be others...
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100% true about Africa.
In the early 19th Century, Jewish pseudo scientists dominated so-called 'racial' research in leading US universities in the slaving States. They were rushing against time to provide a SCIENTIFIC basis for slavery that would replace the Jewish Torah justification that was used in every US court case discussing the issue.
You see, when a 'black' Human demanded freedom and justice in a US court, the judge would pull out the Jewish Torah (known by Modern Christians as the 'Old Testament') and state that since America was built on the 'principles' of Modern Christianity (thus Judaism) and since the Jewish Holy Book declared 'black'-skinned Humans to be 'inferior', slavery of 'blacks' in the USA was perfectly justified. BUT by the time of the early 19th Century, even the USA was suffering the effects of the new age of science, and slavers knew the 'religious justification' was about to collapse.
The Jewish pseudo scientists (and despite the TINY since of the Jewish population in the US at that time, they were almost entirely Jewish) aimed to prove 'black' Humans were closer to apes that 'white' Humans. This work would lead to the US EUGENIC movements- wrongly cast as 'anti-Semitic' (the racist term for anti-Jewish)- but actually Jewish dominated well into the early 20th Century where, ironically, the ideas would transfer perfectly to the rising Nazi movement in Germany.
Today, as I type, Jewish monsters from Israel are STERILIZING 'black' African women (often without their knowledge or 'consent) before they are allowed to emigrate to Israel. This story broke a little while back, and gained, as usual, almost ZERO coverage in the mainstream press (it was buried deep in some of the 'proper' papers at the time).
Those that talk about the 'inferiority' of 'blacks', when not Jewish themselves, will always be found to be intimately connected to various 'friends of Israel' organisations. This depraved, disgusting racism intimately links to the SAME forces that were behind external slavery of Humans in Africa.
Anyone studying Human 'savagery' will know it is always CULTURAL, not genetic. Today, the most savage behaviour (in non-war-zones) that people self record occur in South America, some parts of Africa, and some of the remote Southern Asian Islands. That covers people of African European and Asian background- pretty much the whole Human gamut.
Africa has long suffered from extreme anti-social behaviour by evil Alphas. The so-called 'tribal' behaviour found in many less sophisticated areas in actually recent IMPOSED concepts by well educated 'black' (or non-black) individuals. For instance, most young women are essentially forced to dance naked before their 'king' in Swaziland, but that 'king' was actually a Brit from Birmingham, England who, when inheriting the position on the death of his Dad, engaged in a young Man's sexual fantasy, and INVENTED a Zulu tradition for his sexual amusement.
Look- remember all those CULTS in the USA crafted by sociopathic ALPHA criminals- preying on the spiritual needs of the feeble-minded. Do you PRETEND the history of those cults goes back thousands of years? Of course not. You KNOW the history of Jim Jones, the Mormons, Manson etc. So why are you racist enough to think things play differently in Africa? Sheeple are- sadly- all too easily led- no matter what their 'colour' is.
Another TRUE story. A UNIVERSITY educated black African chose to take the position of Headmaster in a remote village, and also the position of 'head' of the local Trokosi shrine. While this guy is a Modern Christian, he had no problem taking control of the local Voodoosi fetish shrine, because of the 'privileges' it gave him over the young daughters of the locals. An ALPHA walking into an unsophisticated community to sexually exploit the people there. But racists will miscast the presence of the fetish temple, and the activity of the head 'priest' as 'proof' of the inherent 'racial' inferiority of 'black' Humans.
Alpha criminals of all types can, unchecked, make any com
Hence why they'd pay so much. Not because it is worth that much, you could have a gold medal made much cheaper, but because it has historical significance and they wish to have that.
There is also the part where it has been exploited by just about all the above mentioned more developed areas. Much of the billions of Aid given, while good intentions have had some negative affects, like dumped subsidized US grain effectively making local commercial farming non-profitable (The US farmer still gets paid though).
There are probably some cultural reasons as well, perhaps to do with tribal factions but I'm not really educated on it enough to really comment more than it probably exists as a contributing factor.
Mod this up please. For those not reading carefully, it is SATIRE lampooning Watson's linking genetics with human beahvior.
I think the problem is that he did not do anything of real interest after the DNA structure. Crick went on and worked on translation and then on some at least rather interesting ideas about the brain. Watson mainly became a trophy for whatever institution he worked at. Some Nobel laureates continue to do good to great work - Sanger is one, Pauling another for the great category, and others turn out to be one hit wonders. But Watson seems to be uniquely unproductive and arrogant, and selling his medal seems like a very pathetic cry for attention
MOVE TO AFRICA, if you are so convinced that Africans are as intelligent as other races.
I notice that NOBODY proved James Watson wrong. Isn't it nice living in a Bolshevik country, where unelected Jews control everything? They control the entire media, and rely on 'useful idiots' like YOU to believe everything they say.
Africans ARE mentally inferior to everybody else. Has anybody here got any evidence to the contrary? You arrogant cretins.
To many scientists his gravest offense was not crediting Rosalind Franklin with helping him deduce the structure of DNA.
That seems to be a silly accusation. In his 1968 book "The Double Helix", the following is said on page 4:
Chiefly it was a matter of five people: Maurice Wilkins, Rosalind Franklin, Linus Pauling, Francis Crick, and me.
Heck, he writes about Rosie a bit. She was supposedly a hot chick, if she only knew how to dress. Yeah, that's a stereotypical male view of women, but hey, at least we learn that much about her.
A successful API design takes a mixture of software design and pedagogy.
As a fan of molecular biology I would buy it if rich.
"lost him the admiration of the scientific community"
I'm a member of the scientific community and I agree with Watson 100% regarding these supposedly "incendiary" comments. How can the truth be incendiary? You won't find many scientists making these statements publicly since, of course, they'll lose their jobs. But scientists aren't stupid: they can see the data and are more and more coming to realize that genetics leads to significant differences in intelligence.
FTA: "All you can do is nothing, except hope that people actually know what you are."
We do. A bigot.
It is symptomatic of where civilization is headed that the respondents most highly rated here at "News for Nerds" -- presumably a technically and scientifically literate sampling of civilization -- exhibit almost scientific literacy regarding Watson's statements.
This reinforces my perception of civilization as more of a eusocial organism than anything resembling an enlightened society. Eusocial organisms, like bee or ant colonies, do exchange information between its members but the information is relatively low bandwidth taking the form of pheromones. Most of the words used to describe Watson, such as "racist" and "sexist" are so loaded with connotation that they are virtually worthless as high bandwidth tokens -- serving more the function of pheromone signaling in eusocial insects: "Not of the hive! Attack!"
Seastead this.
I believe James Watson's views are quite correct on race... To add a little MORE supporting evidence...
Major universities in America did IQ tests among the races, they were:
115 Northern European Jew
110 Asians
100 White
90 Hispanic
80 Blacks
--- You can still find references to these online; They also showed that when an Interracial couple had kids, the children tended to be split right between the two groups. Also factor in that the majority of "African Americans" are not full blooded Africans, this would make African Americans statistically smarter than Africans... Also it has been stated the creators of the tests were bias, given they were Caucasian universities(at the time), why not would they make Caucasians 115?
More evidence is available on wikipedia and government pages, Generally speaking violent crime in the US, UK, Canada, Australia are all very similar per-capita once you factor in the Black community, The USA has a much larger population of Blacks than the rest, Canada more than Uk and so on... These factor into the crime discrepancy between the nations NOT any cultural difference per-say. ie: A black person is 6 times more likely to commit a violent crime than a white person, and this is shown in stats and prison time/population. A Black person in America is only slightly less likely( statistically) to commit a violent crime as a black person in Bahamas, Haiti, or Most(if not all) African countries that provide stats...
This doesn't mean a Black person can't be the smartest, most well rounded person in the world,.but we are speaking generalities here, statistics and while noone refutes the stats, they do the cause.. Socio-economic, etc etc... DNA/Nature provides more evidence than nurture.
I submit, humans are animals. Take our K9 companions; It is well established that some breeds excel at different tasks/intelligences; Our races are simply different "breeds";
who would better know the genetic difference between different kinds of people than him?
How come everybody is willing to accept that black people have "on average" a larger willie, and the same people refuse to even consider the possibility that they have "on average" a lower IQ?
nice strawman