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Pizza Hut Tests New "Subconscious Menu" That Reads Your Mind

HughPickens.com writes Allison Griswold reports at Slate that Pizza Hut wants to help you order your food subconsciously with a new product that is being tested at 300 locations across the UK that uses eye-tracking technology to allow diners to order within seconds using only their eyes. The digital menu shows diners a canvas of 20 toppings and builds their pizza based on which toppings they look at longest. To try again, a diner can glance at a "restart" button. "Finally the indecisive orderer and the prolonged menu peruser can cut time and always get it right," a Pizza Hut spokesperson said in a statement, "so that the focus of dining can be on the most important part — the enjoyment of eating!" According to news release from Tobii Technology, the Subconscious Menu can determine which ingredients your mind and eyes have been looking at longest in exactly 2.5 seconds. The menu then uses a powerful mathematical algorithm to identify, from 4896 possible ingredient combinations, the customer's perfect pizza. "Tests on the Subconscious Menu have been incredibly positive with 98% of people, recommended a pizza with ingredients they love."

186 comments

  1. Dumb idea by kuzb · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.

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    1. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's pizza hut. I bet the think just predicts that the person wants pizza.

    2. Re:Dumb idea by frovingslosh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      And I'm sure that couldn't possibly be a scam to try to get people to order a few slivers of onion or green pepper at an extra cost of $1.50 each (while taking away some of the pepperoni at the same time).

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    3. Re:Dumb idea by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Funny

      Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.

      "Why does it always want to give me oniones? I HATE ONIONS!"

      Yeah, I can see that being an issue.

    4. Re:Dumb idea by xxxJonBoyxxx · · Score: 1

      >> Sometimes I'm just reading the menu

      And sometimes I'm reading it - fascinated even - to avoid talking to (or intentionally annoy) my companion(s).

      Oh wait, this isn't passiveagg.org?

    5. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes I'm just reading the summary: "The digital menu shows diners a canvas of 20 toppings and builds their pizza based on which toppings they look at longest"

      In this case, if the menu is simplified by removing the words, you are no longer reading the menu. It's pretty reasonable to think that you can interpret an array of topping pictures quickly, and gaze duration can correlate with interest. It's also reasonable to think that data can point to an answer faster tha you are able to formulate the complete thought.

      If they had first proven out this method by showing people pictures of naked people of their preferred gender, the comments would probably be "duh, of course" instead of "dumb idea"...

    6. Re:Dumb idea by ZeroPly · · Score: 1

      They're trying to bypass your decision making process and get to a deeper level - to get you to buy something that you don't logically want, but have a neurochemical need for. Making your food addictive is the best way to make money (David Kessler - "The End of Overeating"). And measuring how long you look at something to gauge interest is nothing new - look up the Abel Assessment for Sexual Interest that is used on pedophiles.

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    7. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh wait, this isn't passiveagg.org?

      No, but this is close.

    8. Re:Dumb idea by mariox19 · · Score: 1

      Seriously! Is an alarm going to go off if I'm checking out the cleavage of the young lady behind the counter? I'll take my pervert money elsewhere!

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    9. Re:Dumb idea by amicusNYCL · · Score: 2

      Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.

      How do you know that? Are you really all that sure that your eyes don't look at something that you enjoy for a tenth of a second longer than when looking at things you don't enjoy?

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    10. Re:Dumb idea by geekmux · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Sometimes I'm just reading the menu. Tracking what I look at or how long I'm looking at it isn't representative of my decision making process.

      Ah, I think you really need to review the definition of subconcious again.

      Point here is even you won't know how dumb the idea really is...until it works.

    11. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But do i enjoy them in combination? am i just wondering wtf the picture is actually supposed to be? am i wondering between 2 different pizzas?

    12. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Can it predict I want good pizza and then order it for me at another pizza joint nearby?

    13. Re:Dumb idea by dkman · · Score: 2

      Yea, I was thinking I most often get the Pepperoni because I'm not willing to pay the extra for the multiple toppings I really want. So while it may give me a tasty pie I'm not willing to pay for it.

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    14. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Share and Enjoy!

      A short while before this, Arthur Dent had set out
      from his cabin in search of a slice of pizza. It was not a
      quest he embarked upon with a great deal of optimism,
      because he knew that the only source of hot food on
      the entire ship was a benighted piece of equipment
      produced by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation. It
      was called a Nutri-Matic Pizza Synthesizer, and he
      had encountered it before.

      It claimed to produce the widest possible range of
      snacks personally matched to the tastes and metabolism
      of whoever cared to use it. When put to the test,
      however, it invariably produced a plate loaded
      with a substance that was almost, but not quite, entirely
      unlike pizza.

    15. Re:Dumb idea by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      And I'm sure that couldn't possibly be a scam to try to get people to order a few slivers of onion or green pepper at an extra cost of $1.50 each (while taking away some of the pepperoni at the same time).

      They may take our pepperoni, but they'll never take our heartburn!

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    16. Re:Dumb idea by nytes · · Score: 2

      Or maybe the computer will automatically add additional... um... "services" to your order.

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    17. Re:Dumb idea by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 5, Funny

      For the same reason that your smartfridge will keep ordering eggplant when you hate eggplant and throw it out immediately.

      "High turnover of eggplant == must be your favorite"

      And why your voice-activated blu-ray player won't let you watch all of Top Gun - "Eject Eject! Eject!" Click. Bzzzt.

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    18. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe that accounts for the only 98% success rate. Not exactly a poor result.

    19. Re:Dumb idea by SeaFox · · Score: 1

      Ah, I think you really need to review the definition of subconcious again.

      Point here is even you won't know how dumb the idea really is...until it works.

      Wouldn't the idea working prove that it's not a dumb idea?

    20. Re:Dumb idea by Jason+Levine · · Score: 2

      "Honey, honest. I don't know why the eye tracking system ordered that for us! I kept my eyes on the menu the whole time!!!"

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    21. Re:Dumb idea by owski · · Score: 1

      I'm going out on a limb here, but I doubt that this is going to force you to buy a particular pizza at gunpoint.

    22. Re:Dumb idea by chmod+a+x+mojo · · Score: 2

      How do you know that? Are you really all that sure that your eyes don't look at something that you enjoy for a tenth of a second longer than when looking at things you don't enjoy?

      And yet who is to say that I wouldn't look at something for 1/10 second longer just because I absolutely hate that topping and have a hard time believing anyone sane would eat it?

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    23. Re:Dumb idea by shadowrat · · Score: 2

      I think it sounds like a pretty good use of technology. It's a pizza. It's not like it's some important life decision.

      Most of the time we are just happy with whatever pizza we happen to find. Incongruently the decision on what pizza to order often seems to be one of the most paralyzing decisions anyone ever faces. I think we tend to overthink it pretty often. This seems like it could actually streamline the process. it doesn't seem to require any kind of commitment to the result. it shows you the pizza and if you don't like it, you can probably just abort and go back to engineering your perfect pizza.

      i'd be kind of curious to try out a pure bayesian pizza ordering system where it literally just had a pizza for me based on my past orders. Of course that implies that pizza hut has to know me and all my orders, and it wouldn't hurt to correlate that with some other data about what i'm doing. This whole idea of basing it simply off what i appear to be looking at sounds non intrusive and perfectly reasonable. for a pizza.

    24. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to keep an open mind. They are offering you oniones. I think they're grown in Mexico.

    25. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    26. Re:Dumb idea by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Well, based on testing, at least 98% of people don't do that. Also, how likely are you, seriously, to stare at a picture of sardines when you don't like them? And even if you do it the first time, what are the odds you're going to keep that revulsion and outrage for subsequent viewings? Outside of the "pickles ruined my life"-style mental illness, I just don't see it happening.

    27. Re:Dumb idea by Mikkeles · · Score: 1

      Agreed; this idea is just stupid. I suspect someone's brother-in-law needed a job.

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    28. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      thatsthepoint.jpg

    29. Re:Dumb idea by Zordak · · Score: 2

      I'm going out on a limb here, but I doubt that this is going to force you to buy a particular pizza at gunpoint.

      That's version 2.0

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    30. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's pizza hut. I bet the think just predicts that the person wants pizza.

      If you think Pizza Hut sells pizzas you've never eaten a real one.

    31. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Top Gun thing is a feature, not a bug.

    32. Re:Dumb idea by dkman · · Score: 1

      No, but it's pointless to suggest an eight topping pizza - a waste of my time. That's all I'm saying. Though I'd be willing to let it make a suggestion one time just for the novelty.

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    33. Re:Dumb idea by aiht · · Score: 1

      Most of the time we are just happy with whatever pizza we happen to find.

      I like your pizza acquisition method. I'm imagining just walking along, spotting a pizza tree, being happy.

    34. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm more concerned as to what a chocolate, bacon and chashiers boobys pizza is going to taste like.

      Various ingredients might sure be tasty, but the secret to a good pizza is how they work together.

    35. Re:Dumb idea by shadowrat · · Score: 1

      you probably would be. i'm thinking of times i walk into the breakroom at work. WHOA! THERES PIZZA THERE! even if it's cold and of questionable age, it's like finding a $20 bill in an old coat. it doesn't matter what kind it is. everyone seems to react this way.

    36. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you hate onions, stop fucking looking at them so long with your covetous eyes.

    37. Re:Dumb idea by jandersen · · Score: 1

      Hmm, I just ordered a deep pan base with stuffed crust, anchovies, tabasco, softice, cheesecake, olives and chicken wings. Mmmm

    38. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many times are you going to repeatedly read the same topping on the list of available ones when you're just reading the menu?

      Compare that number to how many times you are going to glance back at the list of toppings while trying to make your choice.

      Then THINK.

      Then write your post. Or not.

    39. Re:Dumb idea by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Pizza Hut often has pizza with free toppings, you just pay based on size. The more toppings you choose, the less you get of each one. There is no reason for this to change the price based on their typical menu.

    40. Re:Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why would someone who wants a pizza be at Pizza Hut? Makes no sense.

    41. Re:Dumb idea by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      the "pickles ruined my life"-style mental illness,

      Oh, thank God, it's not just me. I hate ordering a burger and having to remove the pickled gherkin. And tomato. And sliced onion. And lettuce. And bun.

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    42. Re:Dumb idea by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      the decision on what pizza to order often seems to be one of the most paralyzing decisions anyone ever faces

      Christ, and I thought my life was a bit dull...compared to you I'm a Navy SEAL on crystal meth juggling nuclear hand grenades..

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    43. Re:Dumb idea by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      You don't have driving insurance? Or did Obama introduce that requirement too?

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  2. Long long because you like it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What if you stare at the menu because you can't believe how gross X would be on a pizza?

  3. ...and the problem was...? by holophrastic · · Score: 2

    I can't say that I've ever considered it painful, or at all problematic in the slightest degree, to select toppings for my pizza. This isn't a solution to a problem. It is, however, a gimmick that will create a problem.

    1. Re:...and the problem was...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not solving YOUR problem. It's solving Pizza Hut's problem of slow people in line taking time to select what they want.

    2. Re:...and the problem was...? by 0bject · · Score: 2

      You might not have a problem selecting pizza toppings, however, in my experience Pizza Hut has a problem delivering the pizza with the toppings you selected. This way they can just build a pizza of random ingredients because of "SUPER SHINY MAGIC MIND READER" rather than because "We dropped your pizza on the floor and this is what popped out of the oven next." or "Our pizza is shit anyway why do you care whats on it"

    3. Re:...and the problem was...? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      It's not solving YOUR problem. It's solving Pizza Hut's problem of slow people in line taking time to select what they want.

      Pizza Hut is a sit down restaurant where you're served by a waiter/waitress here in the UK. I don't understand why you'd be queuing up to select your food unless it's a takeaway, but who wants to eat a greasy, sloppy pizza while walking/driving along?

      Must be a cultural thing.

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    4. Re:...and the problem was...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pizza Hut was always a real restaurant with wait staff when I was younger, but they've mostly gotten away from that here. Most Pizza Hut locations near me (in California) seem to be takeout or delivery only. I think it's probably only about 10% of them now that even have real seating areas to be able to eat, and every one of them makes customers order in a single line at the front.

  4. Rather good idea, I think by Mostly+a+lurker · · Score: 2

    I rather like the concept, if applied well. What usually happens now is an impatient server wanting you to order asap. This could be a boon to those who like to take their time ordering. No need for any human to be involved until the menu says your order is finalized.

    1. Re:Rather good idea, I think by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Why use an eye-tracking system, though, over a touchscreen ordering system? You select the toppings you want, submit the order, pay, get your receipt, move down the line, and get your food at a second window. No need to worry that you're tossing pepperoni on the pie because the person's eyes happened to linger there just a little bit too long. (Or have to inconvenience customers by making them remove the pepperoni from their order when the system thought they wanted pepperoni.)

      Or is touch-screen too much work for people now?

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    2. Re:Rather good idea, I think by owski · · Score: 2

      I think you're missing the point. It's not a faster way to order, it's to help people decide who have a hard time deciding. If you know what you want, this won't help you. If you're not sure, it offers suggestions to push you to something that might be what you want.

    3. Re:Rather good idea, I think by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 1

      No need for any human to be involved until the menu says your order is finalized.

      Sure, but they could do that with a self serve kiosk. Just push the touchscreen for the items you want, and swipe your card to pay. The go to the pickup window to get your pizza. There is no need for an eye tracker.

    4. Re:Rather good idea, I think by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      You can still do this without eye tracking. Say you've selected Pepperoni and Onions. The order menu could say "People who selected Pepperoni and Onions also liked..." and list other toppings. Amazon does this on their sales pages. You might decide to follow the crowd, so to speak, and toss some more toppings on because other people have eaten them. All it would take is an order history database. You don't even need to store the person's details. Just what pizzas were ordered and possibly the location to narrow it down based on regional preferences.

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  5. 4896? by jomegat · · Score: 1

    I bet 4896 combinations should have been 4096 combinations.

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    1. Re:4896? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      I read it as 4096, until I saw your correction. That'd be most likely, but 4896 is theoretically possible, if not all combinations are valid.

      I'm sorry, button and portobello aren't available on the same pizza. Seems they fight in the box. The red stuff isn't tomato sauce, it's mushroom blood.

    2. Re:4896? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe they meant 4845:

      20! / (4! * (20-4)!)

      4 items per pizza from a selection of 20 items.

    3. Re:4896? by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      So you can't but a "plain" pepperoni pizza anymore?

    4. Re:4896? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Choose a sauce (1 of 3)
      Choose a cheese (1 of 2)

      Choose 1, 2 or 3 toppings out of the 18 remaining
      = 4896

      On wolfram
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  6. Logic fail by JohnFen · · Score: 4, Funny

    a Pizza Hut spokesperson said in a statement, "so that the focus of dining can be on the most important part — the enjoyment of eating!"

    Anyone who cares about the enjoyment of eating wouldn't be in a Pizza Hut in the first place.

    1. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You go to Pizza Hut for the enjoyment of getting the runs after eating their food.

    2. Re:Logic fail by blue9steel · · Score: 1

      Foodies can't be poor?

    3. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, you're a manly man, you are.

      If you can't handle Pizza Hut, evidently you have the constitution of an 85 year old woman.

    4. Re:Logic fail by Threni · · Score: 1

      I don't mind pizza hut. Pizza is pizza, and if you have kids and they get to eat cheaply/free, all the better. Sadly, in the UK they've been closing loads of Pizza Huts, so they're a lot harder to find, and the offers/prices change practically monthly. It's an odd establishment.

    5. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You gonna suck his dick at the Pizza Hut glory hole?

    6. Re:Logic fail by Ol+Biscuitbarrel · · Score: 1
    7. Re:Logic fail by guises · · Score: 1, Insightful

      If you've only ever lived in cities known for their pizza, Pizza Hut seems like cheap junk. If you've ever lived in one of the many many places where people don't even know what good pizza tastes like, you'll learn to appreciate Pizza Hut for being, at least, edible.

    8. Re:Logic fail by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I don't mind pizza hut. Pizza is pizza,

      Says someone who must never have eaten actual good pizza. Pizza Hut's pizza is really nothing like, say, the pizza I've eaten from a pizzeria in Naples where the pizzas are thin-crust, baked in an oven that's about 1000 degrees F for maybe a minute or so. But hey, that's probably too high of a standard. Pizza Hut's pizza is nowhere near the top of my list of "decent" pizzerias in the U.S., either.

      and if you have kids and they get to eat cheaply/free, all the better

      That's nice and all, but I can also make my own crust in about 5 minutes, let is sit overnight in the fridge, take it out and toss it the next day, top it with whatever toppings I want -- with whatever quantities I want, choosing whatever quality toppings I want to buy -- and throw it into my oven on the hunk of pre-heated steel that best simulates a Neapolitan experience in a home oven.

      And for investing maybe 15-20 minutes of my time (less than the time it would take me to drive to and from Pizza Hut), I get a pizza that's astoundingly better than Pizza Hut, for maybe 1/4 of the cost. Even if I have a kid or two who eats free, I still probably get it for less than 1/2 of the cost with higher quality ingredients, AND I get to choose exactly what ingredients I'm feeding my kid.

      Sadly, in the UK they've been closing loads of Pizza Huts

      Ah... you're from the UK. That explains a lot. "Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians."

      In all seriousness, though, it's a really useful skill to learn to make pizza at home. It doesn't take a lot of time, it's cheap, and it can really taste a LOT better (than Pizza Hut, anyway).

      (P.S. Sorry about the British joke -- there's a lot to say for English food. Fish-and-chips, Yorkshire pudding, and nothing like a good ole "fry-up" for breakfast. Mmmm... black pudding....)

    9. Re:Logic fail by mwehle · · Score: 1

      Says someone who must never have eaten actual good pizza. Pizza Hut's pizza is really nothing like, say, the pizza I've eaten from a pizzeria in Naples where the pizzas are thin-crust, baked in an oven that's about 1000 degrees F for maybe a minute or so.

      If was Naples wouldn't that be degrees C?

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    10. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      why is this offtopic
      maybe "troll" or "flamebait" is more suited...

    11. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're thinking Domino's.

    12. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't take advice from 4ft tall green aliens nor do I value their opinion.

    13. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well aren't you the foodie hipster? I'm sorry guy, you cannot make your own gluten free crust, with free range chicken, and vegan organic gluten free range vegetables for $8.99. You just can't. Your authentic Naples pizza was also not $8.99. What 8.99 will get you is Pizza Hut or something from Walmart. If you're gonna be that cheap, just go to Little Seizures and get the same crap for $5.

    14. Re:Logic fail by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And for investing maybe 15-20 minutes of my time (less than the time it would take me to drive to and from Pizza Hut), I get a pizza that's astoundingly better than Pizza Hut, for maybe 1/4 of the cost. Even if I have a kid or two who eats free, I still probably get it for less than 1/2 of the cost with higher quality ingredients, AND I get to choose exactly what ingredients I'm feeding my kid.

      You can get a large one topping pizza from Pizza Hut for $9.99. The only pizzas that are 1/4th the cost of that are the cardboard-crust, artificial cheese pizzas at Walmart.

    15. Re:Logic fail by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 2

      Your authentic Naples pizza was also not $8.99.

      In Naples, yeah, it was something like 3 to 5 Euro at many places. Pizza is VERY cheap there. Granted, those are for large-ish single serving pizzas, but yeah, they were less than $8.99. For that price in Naples, you'd get the fancy pizza with the expensive toppings... unless you went to some "upscale pizzeria" with a view and nice table serving, rather than the common hole-in-the-wall places that are world-renowned for their pizza.

      What 8.99 will get you is Pizza Hut or something from Walmart. If you're gonna be that cheap, just go to Little Seizures and get the same crap for $5.

      Uh, I make pizza at home all the time. I often buy top-quality flour in 50 lb. bags, where it comes to less than 50 cents/pound. (I usually share it with a friend, since I like to have a couple different kinds of flour on hand at any time, and 100 lbs. of flour would take me a couple years to get through.) With a pound of flour, I can make TWO large-ish pizzas. Cheese is the biggest expense, but the more expensive the cheese, usually the less you need. Maybe $4 for the cheese for the two pizzas, less if you find something decent on sale. You can buy better sauce in a jar/can, if you'd like, or make it yourself. In either case, you shouldn't be paying more than $1 or so for sauce for two pizzas.

      Anyhow, at least once a week or so, I make two large pizzas for about $5.50 at home. That comes to $2.75/pizza, which admittedly is more then 1/4 of your $8.99 quoted price, but I was figuring closer to $10-12 for a large at Pizza Hut. (I haven't been there for a long time, and most decent pizzerias in the area charge at least that much for a large.)

      And that's using mid-level ingredients, not the cheap stuff. I can definitely make a gluten-free crust with free range chicken and organic veggies for $8.99, though I hate gluten-free pizza crust.

      If you allow me to buy the cheap pre-shredded bulk bag of cheap cheese, crappy bulk flour, and those jars of nasty sauce most people use, and I'll cut the costs down to less than $2 per pizza, easy. Pizza is one of the cheapest foods to make, particularly if you're light on the cheese and heavy on crust. Raise the oil content of the crust to make it richer (and more fattening) like many of the chain pizzerias do, and you have a calorie bomb that could feed a family of 4 for a few bucks at most.

    16. Re:Logic fail by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      You can get a large one topping pizza from Pizza Hut for $9.99. The only pizzas that are 1/4th the cost of that are the cardboard-crust, artificial cheese pizzas at Walmart.

      As I replied to a previous post, I can easily make a large pizza with no toppings (other than cheese or sauce) for less than $3 with decent (not top-of-the-line, but better than your pizza joint is using) ingredients at home, and I do it every week.

      Topping prices will vary a lot. But just a few months ago I had a dinner party with 7 adults, made 4 largeish pizzas with varied toppings (including some "fancy" things from artichokes to organic microgreens, along with fresh basil from the garden, pepperoni, gourmet olives, roasted peppers and tomatoes, and onions), and the overall cost of the ingredients was around $25. We fed 7 adults and had almost an entire pizza's worth leftover. And that was for "fancy" pizzas with "interesting" toppings.

      I really get tired of hearing from people on Slashdot who seem to think they're somehow getting a "deal" by eating out at fast-food restaurant or buying a frozen dinner. You want to eat that stuff, fine. But it's just not true that it's cheaper, except for special deals. Most of the time, you'd save at least 50% by making it yourself compared to a pre-packaged frozen thing, and often 60-80% over getting it from a "cheap" fast-food place. How else do you think fast-food places pay for labor, facilities, AND make a profit for the owners? How else do the frozen dinner people make money? It's not all just volume. Their profits come by the fact that you're usually paying at least twice as much as you would by cooking it yourself.

    17. Re:Logic fail by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      If was Naples wouldn't that be degrees C?

      The official regulations state minimum oven temperatures as 430 degrees C for the oven floor and 485 degrees C for the oven dome, with a bake time of 60-90 seconds.

      That's MINIMUM of ~800F for the oven floor and minimum 905F for the air temp, to qualify as authentic Neapolitan pizza. In practice, many ovens are higher than this. I was just stating an approximation.

    18. Re:Logic fail by dbIII · · Score: 1

      I see Italian style pizza and American style pizza as beasts almost as different as ramen and macaroni. An Italian style pizza can be disappointing if you are expecting medium thickness puffy bread with a tower of toppings American style. That tower of toppings can be very nice even if it has very little resemblence to an Italian style pizza. Both have their place - unlike Arabica versus Robusta.

    19. Re:Logic fail by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      That's nice and all, but I can also make my own crust in about 5 minutes, let is sit overnight in the fridge, take it out and toss it the next day, top it with whatever toppings I want -- with whatever quantities I want, choosing whatever quality toppings I want to buy -- and throw it into my oven on the hunk of pre-heated steel that best simulates a Neapolitan experience in a home oven.

      So you can't have it out of a 1,000 degree oven, so you're going to put it into one that struggles to reach 500 and which heats your house in the process whether you like it or not? To be a proper hipster you're going to have to at least put it on a stone on your BBQ, which you can get well up into the sevens if it's any good.

      --
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    20. Re:Logic fail by AthanasiusKircher · · Score: 1

      So you can't have it out of a 1,000 degree oven, so you're going to put it into one that struggles to reach 500 and which heats your house in the process whether you like it or not?

      My home oven easily tops out over 550 with normal bake cycle on. I have multiple thermometers I use to measure it, so yes, I know what temp it is. If I put the broiler on before throwing in the pizza, I can get it even hotter. (I'm not willing to break the lock and use the self-cleaning cycle as some do -- I value my home insurance.)

      But the biggest difference is the steel. Sorry, but stones just don't cut it. I didn't realize this until I got one a year ago or so, but having baked pizzas for many years, I was positively shocked the first time I used a steel in terms of the difference it made. The heat transfer is just so much higher than a stone -- it easily cuts my baking time down by at least 30%. Between the increased heat transfer from the steel and the broiler above (with its excess radiant heat), I'm easily getting to a heat transfer rate comparable to a grill with a stone over 700F.

      To be a proper hipster you're going to have to at least put it on a stone on your BBQ, which you can get well up into the sevens if it's any good.

      I have no idea what "hipsters" have to do with anything. I've been baking pizza and bread long before "hipsters" became a common thing. I just like good food.

      Anyhow, if I were to do it right, I'd build a brick pizza oven in my backyard. I don't have the time or energy for that now, and frankly I'm not that obsessed. I do have a friend who has one. Then you get to proper temp. I've used ceramic grills too, but that's a bit more work than I want to deal with every week.

      In any case, I mostly make pizza in seasons when the heat for my house is actually useful, and if you are using a ceramic stone on your grill, you're probably not getting the maximum effect. Replace it with a steel plate, and you'll get much better heat transfer, probably enough to get close to a proper sub-90-second Neapolitan bake.

    21. Re:Logic fail by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      You don't believe in setting the bar very high when it comes to restaurants, do you?

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    22. Re:Logic fail by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Anyone who puts chicken on a pizza should be castrated, hung drawn and quartered, crucified, then boiled in acid and given a Chinese burn.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    23. Re:Logic fail by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Ah... you're from the UK. That explains a lot. "Hell is where the police are German, the lovers Swiss, the mechanics French, the chefs British, and it is all organized by the Italians."

      "And the politicians are American".

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    24. Re:Logic fail by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      Foodies can indeed be poor -- but they still wouldn't be in a Pizza Hut. They'd be somewhere that has at least reasonably decent food.

    25. Re:Logic fail by JohnFen · · Score: 1

      you'll learn to appreciate Pizza Hut for being, at least, edible.

      Talk about damning with faint praise. Pizza Hut is barely edible, anyway (although, I admit, it's good if you compare it to the likes of Dominos or Little Ceasers). If I lived someplace where the only pizza option was Pizza Hut, I still wouldn't go to Pizza Hut. I'd make my own pizza. Then, at least, I'd have a pizza that was actually tasty.

    26. Re:Logic fail by jfengel · · Score: 1

      There's a lot of great cuisine in England. It's got some amazing chefs, like Heston Blumenthal and Fergus Henderson. The "gastro pubs" are serving some amazing food. The influences of south Asian cuisine are incredibly creative.

      OK, they're not the French, who make great food an extremely high priority, so there's a lot of great food and very little bad food. The English got a bad reputation in the mid 20th century, having depleted their agricultural system to keep from being conquered, but that ended a while back, and they're no longer tolerating bad food. English cuisine is now on par with anywhere else in Europe or the US. Even Italy (where I've had some surprisingly mediocre pizza).

      You can still get crap, of course, but it's not at all difficult to find really good food in the UK. (I'm not a resident there, just an occasional visitor and fan of food.)

    27. Re:Logic fail by jfengel · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the tip. I do have a stone, and get tolerable pizza out of it, but your physics makes sense and I may have to give it a try the next time I'm feeling flush.

      Meantime... we've got a place that brought a pizza oven over from Naples, and their pizzas do in fact come out in 90 seconds.

  7. What topping do I get... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I stare at the nice rack on the 20-something running the till?

  8. Still fails at context recognition. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My pizza came out topped with chicken breasts!

  9. powerful, it says by clovis · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was dubious until I read this sentence.
    "The menu then uses a powerful mathematical algorithm to identify, from 4896 possible ingredient combinations, the customer's perfect pizza."

    When I found out that it wasn't just any mathematical algorithm, but rather a powerful one, then I knew that this would be the ordering technology for me.
    The only catch seems to be that the end result will be always be a Pizza Hut product.

    1. Re:powerful, it says by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Must be a pretty complex algorithm to come up with 4896 combinations instead of 4096 combinations!

    2. Re:powerful, it says by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      The only catch seems to be that the end result will be always be a Pizza Hut product.

      If you got into a sort of Zen trance state and emptied your mind, you could end up with no pizza at all.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  10. Time tracking is a *bad* metric by tlambert · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Time tracking is a *bad* metric.

    As someone who is trying to choose my last topping on an N-topping pizza deal, I will spend my absolutely most time trying to choose between the last two toppings, unsure of which one of the two I want more. That will push those two toppings way up on the list, inflating their supposed value to me, when in fact, they are chosen last precisely because they have less value than anything else to me.

    This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.

    1. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by blue9steel · · Score: 1

      This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.

      How is that not a feature? (assuming Pizza Hut's point of view of course)

    2. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      Yeah; I was thinking the same thing -- the majority of my toppings don't change from one visit to the next, so I don't even have to look at them. Then the current deal combos come into play, and finally those last few topping choices that I sometimes agonize over (hmm... green peppers AND mushroom is much more expensive than just one or the other on a pepperoni pizza -- which do I prefer today?)

      And yeah; this system will get my order right 100% of the time, as I don't like Pizza Hut's crusts or sauces (so never make it as far as the topping selection).

      However, if they can improve the setup so that the system recognized me and knew my past purchase preferences (via facial recognition) and then used this algorithm on TOP of that, they would probably be pretty accurate, assuming it was used by a chain I actually frequented.

      Algorithm could check and see that I only bought specials after 6 PM for example, and then limit their list of combinations to those included in the current specials. Seems a shame to have it work through all the combinations I'd never want; more chance for both false positives and false negatives.

    3. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by Quirkz · · Score: 2

      Except that in this case you're just looking at everything, rather than trying to specifically select N toppings. So if you just relax and stop trying to count to N, they'll do that part for you, and you don't have to think so hard about what your Nth-most-favorite item is on the menu. In other words, I think this technique precisely solves the thing you're objecting to.

      While also being a little creepy.

      And probably offering me the bacon-ham-sausage-canadian bacon-pepperoni pizza I'd *like* to order but don't, rather than the pepperoni-olive-green pepper pizza I'll actually order as a compromise to a more balanced pizza.

    4. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Time tracking is just input. Their 'powerful algorithm' does the rest. For all it's worth instead of eye tracking they could just have you press a button with similar result.

    5. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      This seems like a way to sell extra toppings for an up-charge.

      How is that not a feature? (assuming Pizza Hut's point of view of course)

      Just copying McDonalds "do you want fries with that" suggestive selling.

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    6. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      And yeah; this system will get my order right 100% of the time, as I don't like Pizza Hut's crusts or sauces (so never make it as far as the topping selection).

      Really? Any of them? I am not a frequent Pizza Hut consumer but from my experiences as a captive audience (hotels, airports and the like) I can tell you that both vary widely. You know how most chains have one version of their products which are sold to everyone, so that they are consistent and uniform? Pizza hut ain't one of those chains. I've had drastically different crust in particular.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    7. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This will suck for the person ordering for a family or a group. The person making the order may eye favorite toppings, but that may not represent the toppings that everyone else wants or can agree to eat.

      Captcha = paranoia

    8. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      As a not infrequent visitor to Pizza Hut (because kids) I have to say that in my experience they are 100% consistent, just like McDonald's.

      This is not the same thing as saying either are very pleasant unless you're hungover and ravenously hungry.

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      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
    9. Re:Time tracking is a *bad* metric by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      The larger huts I've been in have had different variations, but it's all based off the same base ingredients -- and the crusts always tasted to me like they used stale flour, and the sauces were always too sugary. Of course, I haven't stepped in the door of a Pizza Hut in over 10 years, so it is remotely possible that their quality has improved -- but based on feedback from others, I haven't felt it worth checking. They are indeed the McDonald's of pizza; I listened to a good interview with the founders recently. Excellent business plan, but their goal was never to make the best pizza.

  11. Re:I wont read TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Dice does not care why you read Bennet submissions. They just care that you do.

    And you do.

    Love him or hate him, as long as he gets clicks, Dice gets paid.

  12. which toppings they look at longest. by koan · · Score: 2

    Or maybe I was looking at the fly on the menu board and wondering if I wanted to eat there, and no you can't have my retina scan without permission.

    --
    "If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
  13. Dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    If it's tracking by watching eye movements, I eagerly await their new Boob Flavored Pizza.

  14. Obligatory Cyanide & Happiness Short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1
    1. Re:Obligatory Cyanide & Happiness Short by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Beat me to it ;)

      It's refreshing to have something perfectly appropriate that's not XKCD for once.

  15. I wondered what our future would be like by DavidCBillen · · Score: 2

    I always wanted to live to see where technology and general human advancement would take us.

    Now that I know, I think I'll go off myself.

    1. Re:I wondered what our future would be like by Zontar+The+Mindless · · Score: 1

      Wait! Stop! Don't!

      It gets better in the future, you'll see!

      --
      Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
    2. Re:I wondered what our future would be like by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a VERY good documentary one the future of the world written by one of the greatest philosophers of our time- Idiocracy by Mike Judge. In it you would have already known that the greatest minds of our time turned their eyes to solving the non-problems like male hair loss and impotence. People will tell you all kinds of "truths" about this movie being not a documentary but a work of fiction and all the ways how genetics doesn't "work that way" but here we are witnessing this very decline.

      I don't want to live on this planet any more...

  16. okay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that's neat

  17. Dine in Pizza Hut? by magarity · · Score: 1

    I don't remember the last time I saw a dine-in Pizza Hut; I thought they've all converted to takeout / delivery only.

    1. Re:Dine in Pizza Hut? by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      There's one near me. Of course, the only reason I know this is because there's a good fish fry place right next door. I haven't actually entered the Pizza Hut, but can tell from the outside that it's dine in.

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    2. Re:Dine in Pizza Hut? by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      I just realized my town has a Pizza Hut the other day. I've lived here for 7 years and drive by it occasionally, but I must have blocked it out. Never even been tempted to go inside.

    3. Re:Dine in Pizza Hut? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I only know there are dine ins because in our puritan bible thumping dry county, it's the only place you can buy beer. You probably have a much broader selection of drinking establishments.

  18. Success rate is the interesting bit by Etcetera · · Score: 1

    One can imagine all sorts of objections to this ("I take too long", "I like staring at onions, but I don't like eating them", etc...), however a self-reported 98% success rate -- or at least, 98% of the time they end up with a pizza with their preferred ingredients and/or that they end up really liking -- would explain why Pizza Hut decided to roll ahead with this -- seemingly weirdly ahead of its time -- tech right away.

    98% approval suggests that browsing an appetite are more firmly linked. If the numbers hold up outside of the focus groups and small study areas, I'd expect this technology to spread far and wide. Carls Jr. (a/k/a Hardee's) and Jack in the Box already use the kiosks in several locations here in San Diego; a camera and tracker wouldn't be that much of a step and could provide a quite different experience.

  19. The pizza is horrible, so the menu is irrelevant. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    See above ^

    captcha = incisive

    As in : I just made an incisive analysis of Pizza Hut "food".

  20. a mouth probe would be more accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    pizza hut could stick a probe into my mouth to measure which toppings produce the most salivation, and i could order my pizza that way.

    1. Re:a mouth probe would be more accurate by geekmux · · Score: 1

      pizza hut could stick a probe into my mouth to measure which toppings produce the most salivation, and i could order my pizza that way.

      They tried that, but I heard the employee they hired to do the probing was a little pissed about his new job title.

      Apparently "Tonsil Jockey" has more than one meaning. Who knew...

    2. Re:a mouth probe would be more accurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even better, Pizza Hut could stick a probe up your ass and deduce your likely choices from the remnants of your previous meal.

  21. I shudder to think what the system will order if by tgibson · · Score: 1

    the customer is an average male and the cashier is a lovely lady with a large bust.

    "Tests on the Subconscious Man have been incredibly predictible with 98%..."

  22. Perfect! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    *stares at cheese*

  23. what would be neat by ozduo · · Score: 0

    is a poster of different sex positions an app on google glass and a partner to try it out on (that would be the difficult part)

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    I got to the chocolate box before you, that's why the hard ones have teeth marks.
  24. Congratulations by qbast · · Score: 1

    - Based on how long you looked at items, you just ordered whole menu!
    - Wait, what? I just had to read is slowly because I forgot my glasses
    - To cancel, just look at rectangle with Cancel printed inside within next 2s ...
    - Cancel, cancel, where the hell is it?!
    - This will be $1500. Thank you for using our new subconscious menu!

  25. It's a Nutrimatic pizza dispenser by jfengel · · Score: 2

    And I bet it delivers something that is almost, but not quite, entirely unlike pizza.

  26. Father and Son Talk by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 1

    Son: Daddy, what is that disgusting looking topping on the menu. Father: Son, stop looking at it or the computer will put it on your pizza!

    --
    Priest: "Universe from nothing, no laws of physics, sped up time"+ huge discrepancies. Creationism? No. Big Bang Theory
  27. Just bring back text menus by dargndorp · · Score: 2

    Whenever I frequent a fast food joint, I have to waste plenty of time looking at pretty pictures. I'd vastly prefer if there was a text menu, preferably with sensibly categories such as main dishes, desserts, drinks and whatnots.

    1. Re:Just bring back text menus by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      If fast food places didn't have pretty pictures on their menus, how would they show you just what your food won't look like?

      --
      My sci-fi novel, Ghost Thief, is now available from Amazon.com.
    2. Re:Just bring back text menus by Quirkz · · Score: 1

      Once upon a time I meant to build a web site that compared pictures of the food you ordered to pictures of the food you got.

        I think I was partly inspired by some McBurger that had less than 50% overlap between layers of ingredients, and a pile of ketchup blasted onto the side of the container rather than into the sandwich.

      Later I concluded I didn't have the time or energy for something that pointless.

    3. Re:Just bring back text menus by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Someone has already done this: http://www.alphaila.com/articles/failure/fast-food-false-advertising-vs-reality/ The real life burgers look really pathetic next to the "ad burger."

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  28. Ummmmm??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hair Pie!!!

  29. This would be a great idea if... by BitterOak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be a great idea if Pizza Hut's main clientele base consisted of stroke victims who are paralyzed everywhere except for their eyes and are able to communicate only through eye movements. Last time I was in Pizza Hut, I didn't see too many such people there. So, I'm not sure what problem this technology is supposed to solve.

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    1. Re:This would be a great idea if... by jader3rd · · Score: 1

      So, I'm not sure what problem this technology is supposed to solve.

      It solves the problem of dining with my brother. Who on more than one occasion finally decides what he wants after everyone has given up on him, given the waiter our orders, and had our meals served to us. It's not like he's picking his final meal or anything. I would love it if the max ordering time was 5 sec, when I'm with family.

    2. Re:This would be a great idea if... by physicsphairy · · Score: 1

      It is meant to solve the single solitary problem pizza hut has ever been interested in solving: how to make more money. Just as a curiosity everyone now wants to order a pizza to see if it really works. They may keep ordering for a while before the novelyt wears off. There may be psychological biases in which people think the pizza tastes better. If nothing else, everyone is now talking about getting a pizza they will like by going to Pizza Hut.

    3. Re:This would be a great idea if... by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      It's pizza for Stephen Hawking!

  30. Pizza Trough by wcrowe · · Score: 1

    At first I was offended, because apparently, if I like to peruse the menu, I'm some sort of "problem" that needs to be "fixed". But then I realized that I haven't eaten at Pizaa Hut in 12 years, mainly because of their factory approach to dining. Herd 'em in. Get the pizza down their throats as quickly as possible. Herd 'em out. Pizza Hut? More like Pizza Trough. Who cares what they do? Just one more reason to avoid the place.

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    Proverbs 21:19
    1. Re:Pizza Trough by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      At first I was offended, because apparently, if I like to peruse the menu, I'm some sort of "problem" that needs to be "fixed". But then I realized that I haven't eaten at Pizaa Hut in 12 years, mainly because of their factory approach to dining. Herd 'em in. Get the pizza down their throats as quickly as possible. Herd 'em out. Pizza Hut? More like Pizza Trough. Who cares what they do? Just one more reason to avoid the place.

      You are clearly a gentleman and a scholar like myself.

      It's Mickey D's for us, every time. Black tie only.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  31. Auto sales in the future by Whatsmynickname · · Score: 2

    Salesperson: congratulations on your new car purchase! (unknowing) Buyer: But I was just looking at this car!?! Salesperson: Yes, so our software determined you wanted to buy this car, so we've already signed you up for a loan!

    1. Re:Auto sales in the future by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      That would be beautiful! You wouldn't have to pay the loan back because you never agreed to it. They are, however, allowed to give you that car without you buying it.

      --
      Well, I might have a way, but it only works on a semi spherical planet in a vacuum.
  32. Re:I wont read TFS by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

    I noticed an article by Bennett on the front page, and decided it was time to stop reading him. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

    --
    "Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
  33. Nope. by sexconker · · Score: 1

    How do I use my eyes to tell them I want sausage, EXTRA cheese, a shitload of garlic, mushrooms on ONLY HALF of the pizza, and for them to cook it "well done" (aka, properly)?

    1. Re:Nope. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "ONLY HALF of the pizza,"

      you look at it with only 1 eye.

  34. Re:I wont read TFS by duckintheface · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The conclusion is deceptive. They say 98% of people get ingredients they love. But that could be by chance since 98% of people probably like ANY pizza that does not contain anchovies.

    --
    "He took a duck in the face at 250 knots." -- William Gibson, Pattern Recognition
  35. Re:I wont read TFS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Yeah, well you also decided to hire someone to cut off your penis, so don't mind me if I discount your decision-making abilities and opinions.

  36. They have a topping for that by HannethCom · · Score: 2

    Seriously! Is an alarm going to go off if I'm checking out the cleavage of the young lady behind the counter? I'll take my pervert money elsewhere!

    No, it just adds Human Breast Milk Cheese to the toppings list.

    --
    Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon what's the difference? All steal money from devs and control with walled gardens.
  37. Eye tracking by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens if I look a little longer at the waitress?

  38. I found their algorithm! by Giant+Electronic+Bra · · Score: 1

    function pickPizza {
        return { crust -> chewy, toppings -> [ 'pepperoni', 'extra cheese']};
    }

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    "Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem." -- Jefferson
  39. Re:I shudder to think what the system will order i by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    the customer is an average male and the cashier is a lovely lady with a large bust.

    A pizza with all whole-milk cheese toppings?

  40. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    "I didn't order a pizza with the tits from the cashier behind register #2?!"

  41. This is outright BS! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I never linger over the picture of shitty tasting Pizza Hut pizza, yet that is what I receive. Every. Single. Time.

  42. So it reads your mind by silas_moeckel · · Score: 1

    Does that mean it knows you would much rather eat somewhere else?

    --
    No sir I dont like it.
  43. Magic 8 ball says... by easyTree · · Score: 1

    "You want..........
    .
    .
    .
    PIZZA!"

  44. Obg. Douglas Adams quote by Reaper9889 · · Score: 2

    “After a fairly shaky start to the day, Arthur's mind was beginning to reassemble itself from the shell-shocked fragments the previous day had left him with.
    He had found a Nutri-Matic machine which had provided him with a plastic cup filled with a liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.
    The way it functioned was very interesting. When the Drink button was pressed it made an instant but highly detailed examination of the subject's taste buds, a spectroscopic analysis of the subject's metabolism and then sent tiny experimental signals down the neural pathways to the taste centers of the subject's brain to see what was likely to go down well. However, no one knew quite why it did this because it invariably delivered a cupful of liquid that was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea.”

  45. It's easier to just say... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Put everything on it except anchovies, and double cheese.

    1. Re:It's easier to just say... by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      A pizza without anchovies is like making love in a deep sea diving suit. And a True Pizza doesn't have cheese, either.

      Anchovies, capers, olives, garlic, chillies, and a boiled egg are all the toppings you need.

      --
      To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it
  46. no "Minority Report" references yet? by ChipMonk · · Score: 1

    Come on, Slashdot! Google reports your online behavior to the NSA, Facebook alters your mood for their own fun and profit, and now Pizza Hut is trying to read your mind. It's getting harder and harder for us conspiracy deniers.

  47. Re:I wont read TFS by alvinrod · · Score: 1

    Which is ideally why you'd conduct an experiment where you have the algorithm give a certain amount of people a pizza that they are unlikely to enjoy or perhaps just something that's randomly chosen in order to see what percentage of people still say they love the pizza simply because they think the computer picked something that they would enjoy.

    It's not exactly a difficult problem to overcome, but I can see why they might not care. If it makes 98% of people happy, either the algorithm is good enough for most cases or it says more about how the human mind operates more than anything else.

  48. I didn't want this pizza of by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    dicks.

  49. There is only one problem with this system. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The end result is from Pizza Hut, which isn't worth eating in the first place.

  50. Great Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Congratulations, sir! We have determined by your eye movement that your number one choice for a topping on your pizza is "breasts".

    1. Re:Great Idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many of those can I get on a pizza, and are they 99c each or per pair?

  51. Melons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So if you look to long at the melons, you get topless pizza?

  52. This would fail for me by t4eXanadu · · Score: 1

    I get very anxious when I am presented with a bunch of menu items, and I feel social pressure to decide quickly because I am waiting in line. This causes me to stare blankly at menu items for many seconds at a time. I suspect that this would cause this thing to build the strangest pizzas for me, and probably not at all what I want. Good thing I don't eat at Pizza Hut anymore.

  53. I tried it... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    But I kept getting 1/2 clip art of a girl holding a pizza, and 1/2 copyright notice.

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  54. I need more help! by AndyKron · · Score: 0

    Only if the place the pizza in my mouth, and move my jaw up and down for me. Life is so stressful as it is!

  55. Re:No It Reads Your Face by retroworks · · Score: 1

    You will be banked into facial recognition database and find Peperoni ads on your Facebook ads page. This is about facial recognition software, it's going into store cameras everywhere, and they are starting to package it as a "consumer advantage". Physical browsing is now, today, being tracked the same as web browsing. Minority Report has your pizza ready.

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  56. By the Krell! Wrong SF by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Pizzas from the Id.

  57. Good pizza? NY region, particularly NYC. by fyngyrz · · Score: 1

    This.

    Pizza hut's crust is awful; the thin, too thin, the thick, too thick. The cheese is devoid of all pizza-y goodness by skim and evaporation, dry and not stretchy even when still hot -- nothing like the real Mozzarella you'd find in the cheese combination that tops an honest NY pizza. They use salad mushrooms -- uncooked, raw, stiff things -- that they top the pizzas with, instead of cooked mushrooms. I mean, heck, if your palate demands salad mushrooms, fine, but they don't even offer correct pizza 'shrooms. Yes, of course that would be my favorite topping. Sheesh.

    I've tried them many times over the years, and I just can't accept that what pizza hut has been producing is actually what pizza is supposed to be like. Terrible stuff. I've had better all over NY, NJ, and somewhat NE of there. Once I found good pizza in Florida, too, but as it turned out, the guy had just moved down after running a pizzeria on Broadway in Manhattan, so I'm not sure it really counts.

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  58. not enough data by bingoUV · · Score: 1

    Success rate may not really mean much. It could also mean :

    1. Toppings are in such small quantity, that too with flavour leeched out of them, that non-topping-ingredients might decide the majority of taste / satisfaction.

    2. 98% say they liked their pizza after ordering this way - but maybe they would have liked any pizza? There needs to be a control group which is served the pizza that the algorithm finds least "good" for them. The very fact that they chose to order this way might mean they are not particular about which pizza they want.

    At least, there needs to be a control group with random pizza ordered for them. Press release, being a press release, is short on details.

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    1. Re:not enough data by tehcyder · · Score: 1
      Somewhere like Pizza Hut isn't going to offer anything very exotic as a topping choice, so it's hardly surprising that most pizzas are perfectly acceptable.

      Unless you're a vegetarian, or allergic to tomatoes and cheese or something, any pizza they serve is going to taste pretty similar.

      Tea-smoked forest truffles, goat vindaloo and sliced durian fruit are unlikely to be options.

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    2. Re:not enough data by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      Not exactly.

      1. Somewhere like Pizza Hut isn't going to offer anything very exotic as a topping choice,
      2. so
      3. it's hardly surprising that most pizzas are perfectly acceptable.

      Doesn't follow. While both parts 1 and 3 of you sentences are correct, the "so" doesn't fit at all. Are you saying the vast majority of non-exotic pizzas in the world are acceptable? Or non-exotic-ness causes acceptability? Both are pretty difficult positions to argue for.

      Unless you're a vegetarian, or allergic to tomatoes and cheese or something, any pizza they serve is going to taste pretty similar.

      Ok, so assume no special needs like allergy or restricted diet. Still, all non-exotic pizzas don't taste similar - cheese and tomato both are non-exotic yet taste wildly different from each other.

      Only low quantity of toppings and leeching flavour and taste from toppings can cause pizzas with different toppings to taste similar. Non-exotic-ness is a factor with pizza hut but it doesn't fit with your post at all.

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    3. Re:not enough data by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I'd also like to see it controlled against a pepperoni pizza, which practically everybody seems to like. (Oddly, except for me. I'm just not into fermented sausages. Not into salami, either. I'll eat pepperoni pizza, but I'd rather have sausage.) Once you exclude the obvious failures (e.g. vegetarians) I bet you could get 98% approval.

      If that 98% figure means that they can differentiate vegetarians from non-vegetarians just by watching their eyes with near-perfect accuracy... that actually sounds like an interesting result all by itself.

  59. Obligatory by karpis · · Score: 0
  60. Pizza Hut qualifies as Pizza? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pizza Hut is an abomination, easily the worst pizza I have ever had.

  61. The corpratst's ultimate dream. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is every corporatio's ultimate dream.

    Hey buddy, you thought you wanted it and in 0.00001 seconds we read not only your mind but that of your credit card provider and you've just been billed $34,000,000 for a piece of yesterday's sale pizza. Now pay up or we'll call the cops.

  62. Not getting it, people!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The point isn't whether Pizza Hut is good or not, nor is it whether the system works or not.

    The point *is* that now Pizza Hut got everybody talking about Pizza Hut, by virtue of repackaging various black boxes, in a system that will never hit the market and doesn't have to in order to achieve its goal.

    In short, some VP of Marketing at Pizza Hut is now getting to splooge all over themselves about how many nerd/geek eyeballs got attracted to this Slashdot "article," and how many watercooler and FM DeeJay moments this will produce for them.

  63. yes... it worked... got my pizza from Papa Johns by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    yes... it worked...
    got my pizza from Papa Johns instead...!!!
    http://www.papajohns.com/

  64. Re:I wont read TFS by aestrivex · · Score: 1

    I don't know if "unlikely to enjoy" is possible, let alone scientifically reasonable. The control group should be random. It certainly is in clinical trials that evaluate placebo.

  65. Seen this before in a book somewhere.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Share and enjoy!

  66. haik by airdf · · Score: 0

    you order your food subconsciously