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A Paper By Maggie Simpson and Edna Krabappel Was Accepted By Two Journals

An anonymous reader writes "A scientific study by Maggie Simpson, Edna Krabappel, and Kim Jong Fun has been accepted by two journals. Of course, none of these fictional characters actually wrote the paper, titled "Fuzzy, Homogeneous Configurations." Rather, it's a nonsensical text, submitted by engineer Alex Smolyanitsky in an effort to expose scientific journals — the Journal of Computational Intelligence and Electronic Systems and the Aperito Journal of NanoScience Technology."

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  1. will be seen as a dig against science (air quotes) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This should be done all the time, like whitehats and pentesters, culling the ranks of bullshit journals.

    Unfortunately, this will just get used by anti-science folks to point out how full of shit "science" is.

  2. That's ridiculous! by Kiwikwi · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sheesh. What kind of journal accepts a paper written by a baby?

    1. Re:That's ridiculous! by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Sheesh. What kind of journal accepts a paper written by a baby?

      Journals that charge an author fee. Basically the author offered to give away hundreds of dollars, and thinks it is "news" that someone agreed to take it.

    2. Re:That's ridiculous! by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Sheesh. What kind of journal accepts a paper written by a baby?

      To be fair, Maggie was 6months-1year in 1987, so she's a 28yo baby.

    3. Re:That's ridiculous! by jythie · · Score: 1

      She also shows hints of secretly being smarter then all the other characters.... bizarro genius baby.

    4. Re:That's ridiculous! by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

      Not as bizzaro as Bizarro Stormy, mind you.

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  3. Great but by pswPhD · · Score: 1

    The 'author' should have been Lisa Simpson

    1. Re:Great but by Technician · · Score: 1

      I have Michael Jackson;s business card. I worked on the sound system in his car. He is older than the music industry recording star. He was never black.
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    2. Re:Great but by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      Why? Lisa speaks eloquently. Simpsons canon does not indicate that Maggie cannot write. Perhaps that's how she conspired to plan the Burns assissination.

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    3. Re:Great but by jythie · · Score: 1

      If it was just the names I would agree 'ho hum' since rejecting a legitimate paper based off the names matching up with fictional ones would be pretty unprofessional, but the nonsense content of the paper is more concerning.. or would be concerning if those were journals of any note to begin with.

      This is kinda like submitting Alice in Wonderland to some vanity publisher and then people highlighting it as an example of how publishers do not check for obvious plagiarism. Technically correct for shakey values of 'publisher'.

    4. Re:Great but by Jason+Levine · · Score: 1

      Yes, name coincidences happen. My dentist has the same name as my father and has a son with my name. (I told him I was going to bolt out of there if his wife was the same name as my mother and if he had a daughter with the same name as my sister.) However, the more these coincidences happen, the less credible they become.

      One person with the same name as a fictional character would be an interesting coincidence. Two people with the same name as fictional characters (on the same TV show no less) would strain credibility to the breaking point. Toss in someone with a name similar to the leader of North Korea and I would hope that any serious reviewer would ask some serious questions.

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    5. Re:Great but by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      That would be appropriate, especially if one of the co-authors was Gracie Bermudez.

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    6. Re:Great but by tepples · · Score: 1

      This is kinda like submitting Alice in Wonderland to some vanity publisher and then people highlighting it as an example of how publishers do not check for obvious plagiarism.

      That depends on what new content you can coax fans into making for Carroll's novel. Illustrate every scene in Blender perhaps?

    7. Re:Great but by jd2112 · · Score: 1

      I have Michael Jackson;s business card. I worked on the sound system in his car. He is older than the music industry recording star. He was never black.

      You mean the author and world-renound beer and whiskey authority? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...

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  4. Double blind review by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With a double blind review system, the identities of the authors should be irrelevant. If the paper itself has merit, then it should not matter if it is written by a well-respected reviewer, a newcomer, someone writing pseudonymously, or even an anonymous author.

    The real story here isn't the authors' pseudonyms, but rather the nonsensical content of the paper, and even that aspect of the story is hardly original.

    1. Re:Double blind review by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      well the news is that these particular two journos are shit.
      nothing more to it, really.

      if you knew the names of the people who accepted it through, you would also know that they don't do shit. that would be nice info.

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  5. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This should be done all the time, like whitehats and pentesters, culling the ranks of bullshit journals.

    It is. At this point, I don't even know why "journal publishes nonsense paper" is even a news story any more. It's been happening for close to 20 years now.

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  6. missing the point by markhahn · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Fake and/or predatory journals are an interesting phenomenon with repercussions greater than just whether they accept nonsense papers. Could the poster edit to include some commentary on why this is interesting?

    1. Re:missing the point by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Here's the problem though. If you actually spend some time reading journals, like for reals reading the actual articles. You find that even in the "very good" journals, there's a lot of garbage. For example, I can't remember the exact citation, but for a class I had to read a paper out of IEEE transactions. This is a top tier journal, not some podunk piece of crap journal. It was about wireless sensor network for in house automation. Their test set up looked like pictures ripped from an IKIA catalog. The details of their hardware and software implementations were severely lacking and they had no sort of statistical analysis of performance. The editing was garbage, they often used the words. Let me repeat, this is Transactions. In the electronics world, this is the equivalent of Nature.

    2. Re:missing the point by jythie · · Score: 2

      Quite true. In many journals it comes down to the often random process of who reviews your submission, with some judges being highly critical and others passing anything that lines up with what they like. It can be very hit or miss.

    3. Re:missing the point by Threni · · Score: 1

      Not sure there are many repercussions, to be honest. I'm sure when stuff gets published the author's mothers are very proud, and it's great that other people can then learn from the good stuff, but there are a hell of a lot of pointless, boring papers being written as part of some study or project that nobody gives a shit about either way. What are the implications of this paper being published? Other than giving a few people a laugh, and perhaps whoever is responsible for the quality of the journal having to be seen to send an email to whoever was responsible for it being checked, I'd wager precisely nothing.

    4. Re:missing the point by cmarkn · · Score: 1

      It's a shame that in this day and age we have not advanced to using the pictograms.

      I believe the current usage for pictograms is "emoticons".

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  7. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by Defenestrar · · Score: 3, Informative

    It'd be a lot more newsworthy if it was a journal with an extant impact factor. Neither of these even show up on search.

  8. this is a disgrace. by nimbius · · Score: 2, Funny

    Everyone knows Marge and Maggie simpson are totally unqualified authors for a journal on the combinational properties of Ethernet and websites. And Edna? oh id laugh to think she would be capable of reading or even WRITING something so absurdly complex. Shes deceased (gvoy). But that isnt however to say that other journals arent worth READING from these and other outlets (mmhey). Why for example I myself wrote a paper on a device i call the Sarcasm detector, and as you know my work on the hamburger earmuffs are also published science. Lets not also forget my published conference proceedings on general properties of Operation Hoyviiin Mayviiin!!

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    1. Re:this is a disgrace. by slipped_bit · · Score: 1

      A "sarcasm detector"? THAT's a useful device.

  9. Slashdot accepts submissions from Bennett.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Can't really take the high ground when you accept all the crap that Bennett writes.

  10. Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by steveha · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This example was about predatory journals. There are also predatory "vanity publishers" that convince aspiring authors to pay money to get their book published.

    A group of science fiction authors put together a complete novel to sting one such vanity press. The result, Atlanta Nights, is a hoot!

    In one chapter, Bruce Lucent is a young hotshot software developer; in another, he is an old, broken-down shell of a man. Some chapters have new characters that are never heard from again. Near the end of the book, the full text of the first chapter appears again as a new chapter. Also, someone wakes up and realizes that it was all a dream... and then the book continues for a few more chapters. And my favorite: the last chapter was written by feeding other chapters into a Markov Chain nonsense generator. Example: "Bruce Lucent walked around anymore."

    Rather than using Simpsons names, they chose a fake name "Travis Tea" that sounds like the word "travesty".

    Atlanta Nights was accepted for publication, but after the authors had their press release the publisher changed its mind.

    http://www.sfwa.org/members/travistea/backstory.htm

    They got a bunch of famous authors to give tongue-in-cheek blurbs about the book. Jerry Pournelle: "Don't fail to miss it if you can!"

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    1. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by TheCarp · · Score: 2

      How perplexed would they be when they start getting genuine positive reviews from readers who thought that the mold breaking work was innovative.

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    2. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Rather than using Simpsons names, they chose a fake name "Travis Tea" that sounds like the word "travesty".

      Why not both? http://simpsons.wikia.com/wiki...

    3. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by jythie · · Score: 1

      One does not even need to look for intentionally horrible works... not when quality examples like Moon People and its sequals exist.

    4. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by John+Bokma · · Score: 1

      For that we have Rothfuss' "The Slow Regard of Silent Things", which I actually enjoyed, a lot.

    5. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

      If you think that's bad, the 1969 hoax, Naked Came the Stranger was a best seller and remained popular even after the hoax was revealed. The story, such as it was, had no cultural, social or literary merit but was filled with gratuitous sex scenes. In fact, parts of it had to be heavily edited because they were too well written.

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    6. Re:Atlanta Nights by Travis Tea by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      This makes me want to read Game of Thrones.

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  11. Does author matter? by Ksevio · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I'm more concerned about the "papers" that contain gibberish nonsense than one where the author isn't correct. Those are both names that could easily exist, but even if they didn't, it shouldn't be a problem to publish an article by Anonymous as long as it's peer-reviewed and contains good material.

  12. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by Moryath · · Score: 1, Flamebait

    Relatively accurate. It's about the same as "racist nonsense published on right-wing 'news' site."

    The journals they got the stuff into are about as reliable and factual as, say, youngcons or breitbart.

  13. Re:As a non-native speaker by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 1

    Could it be a take on Kim Jong-un I don't get that reference - I agree he should have used Ralph Wiggum instead. That said - it shouldn't be based on the names in the title (I would hate for any Maggie Simpsons out there being denied publication) but rather the fact that it was a completely junk paper.

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  14. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by MightyMartian · · Score: 1

    Indeed. When someone manages to get something like this past, say, Computational Linguistics, then we'll have something newsworthy. This is akin to announcing "House without door has lock picked!"

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  15. Obligatory by ArhcAngel · · Score: 1

    Obligatory HaHa

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  16. Bad summary by upontheturtlesback · · Score: 4, Informative

    This is a terrible summary, and should clearly state that this was a joke effort to expose two essentially fake journals (that no one in the field thinks are real) as predatory and accepting papers for money without peer review. The summary makes it sound like this is a big deal or that these might have been important journals, but really as an academic (or anyone with a university email address) you get at least 10 of these offers to publish papers in random fake journals for money in your inbox every day.

    For non-academics, these "journals" are basically the difference between a guy in a trench coat coming up to you on the street and offering to "publish" your book for money, and a real and respected publishing house like the MIT Press offering to publish your book after a laborious review process. If a real journal or publisher accepted a paper or book that was fake or had genuine errors, this would be substantial news (and it does happen occasionally that things do get past the reviewers, they're only human), but that is very far from the case here.

    1. Re:Bad summary by jythie · · Score: 3, Funny

      I now have a sudden urge to start walking around campus with a trench coat asking people 'hey kid, that's a nice little dissertation you got there, youz maybe wanna get it published perhaps?'

    2. Re:Bad summary by amaurea · · Score: 2

      I also get loads of these. I can't imagine anybody being stupid enough to fall for it, but like other spam, I expect it continues because they do get enough replies to be profitable. I'd like to believe that it's funded entirely by people submitting sting articles, but that's probably too optimistic :)

      I think the second greatest harm these fake journals do (after the harm they do to science's reputation due to how the media report on this) is to make it much harder to establish new journals. I think arXiv overlay journals that just provide peer review but let arXiv handle distribution and archiving is a good idea, but I fear such a journal would be promptly ignored nowadays because people are being conditioned to think that unknown journals are fake journals.

  17. nice to see by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    I think it's great to see more women of all ages in the STEM fields. Good show!

  18. Looking at the Heading of TFS by codeButcher · · Score: 1

    I noticed that the title of the summary only had two of the three names. What, Kim Jong Fun not sounding female enough for the New Improved Slashdot?

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    1. Re:Looking at the Heading of TFS by GungaDan · · Score: 1

      While I share your exasperation at the pervasive feminSJW tilt slashdot has undergone recently, I have to point out that in the US, usage of the name "Kim" still skews heavily to the female gender.

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  19. Should have been from Prof. Farnsworth by RevWaldo · · Score: 1

    Of course, the guys from Futurama would have written an actual paper.

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  20. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by ichthus · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, this will just get used by anti-science folks to point out how full of shit "science" is.

    Or, it will be used by pro-science folks to point out how full of shit the peer "review" system is -- or can be.

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  21. Typos on 1st line gave it away by davidwr · · Score: 1

    Note the lack of a space in "Fun,Edna" in the acceptance letter.

    Also, using a gmail address doesn't exactly seem professional. You would think a legitimate professional journal could splurge a few bucks for their own domain-name. Oh wait....

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  22. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    No, it's proof that those journals your university pays a fortune to stock in their libraries, and which often charge researchers for the privilege of submitting their papers could for a lot less money be replaced by wiki sites where researchers could submit their papers and solicit peer review. A simple account registration process would filter out most pranksters.

  23. Awesome by azav · · Score: 1

    B. Experiments and Results

    "Is it possible to justify the great pains we took in our implementation? No. With these considerations in mind, we ran four novel experiments: (1) we measured Web server and DNS latency on our decommissioned Macintosh SEs; "

    Now that's hilarious.

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  24. Everyone knows by tehlinux · · Score: 2

    The Journal of Computational Intelligence and Electronic Systems and the Aperito Journal of NanoScience Technology are perfectly cromulent journals.

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  25. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by hey! · · Score: 1

    What you need to do is look at the impact factor of each journal -- a measure of how often articles in that journal are cited. What constitutes a "good" IF varies from field to field, so you want to compare the IF of a journal to the leading journals in that field. In this case the IF for the journals in question are 1.47 (0.3 for a five year period) and 1.15.. By comparison, the ACM Transaction on Intelligent Systems and Technology has an impact factor of 9.39.

    There have always been low quality journals, but recently I'm seeing an uptick in pseudo-science advocates like anti-vaxxers and climate change denialists citing "published research" that makes absurdly broad claims. It's important to look up the IF for the journals referenced, they're often predatory journals that function like a "vanity press" for unpublishable papers.

    The site http://scholarlyoa.com/ is also very useful. It maintains a list both of predatory journals and predatory publishers in the business of giving a platform to junk scholarship. Journal of Computational Intelligence and Electronic Systems is not on the list of standalone predatory journals, nor is the publisher American Scientific Publishers on the list of predatory publishers -- yet. Aperito *is* on the list of suspect publishers.

    Unforutnately IF isn't infallible. You can't automatically dismiss a paper because it's published in a low IF journal. You have to look at the whole pattern. A new paper making unusual claims is a lot more credible if it's published in a high IF journal like Nature. If it's published in Fred's Research Journal, you have to wait and see whether the paper gets cited by reputable scholars or by papers in more mainline journals.

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  26. We miss you Marcia Wallace by OakDragon · · Score: 1

    Hah!

  27. Re:now I know where to publish by techno-vampire · · Score: 1

    I don't know how things are done now, but back when I was in school, we were assigned to write essays by word count, not page count for exactly that reason. And, that's why writers talk about how many words they've written recently, not how many pages because page counts are much easier to inflate than word counts. (Double spacing, large fonts and bigger margins can make the same number of words fill more pages.)

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  28. Those Journals both rejected my paper by RendonWI · · Score: 1

    I am really not sure what this says about me... -Milhouse

  29. Academia is a racket by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Why anyone buys into the academic racket is beyond me. You spend a decade or more of your life working at-or-below minimum wage paying high tuition costs to do some cool science. To advance your academic career, you must publish your findings, which means turning over all rights to your findings to the journals. And if you're lucky, you might be one of the 8% who get a tenure track position, the rest are screwed.

    http://blogs.lse.ac.uk/impactofsocialsciences/2013/12/11/how-academia-resembles-a-drug-gang/

    Did you know the UC system pays around $4 billion per year in journal subscriptions, primarily to have access to the publications published at their own institutions? And those costs are rapidly accelerating:

    http://www.library.ucsf.edu/services/scholpub/journalcosts

    It's all a massive money-racket.

  30. Wikipedia by rsilvergun · · Score: 1

    States that Edna has a Masters from Bryn Mawr College, so I'd say she's more than qualified to get published. Now don't you feel silly?

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    1. Re:Wikipedia by jrumney · · Score: 1

      And Maggie should be postgraduate age by now, so why wouldn't she be publishing papers?

  31. It's been in the news by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    that there are several Journals doing pay for play. In that context the summary is fine.

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  32. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    This is akin to announcing "House without door has lock picked!"

    Not to be pedantic, but actually that would be pretty interesting. What's the lock attached to and what was keeping the bugler from gaining entry that required the lock to be circumvented?

  33. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

    This is akin to announcing "House without door has lock picked!"

    Not to be pedantic, but actually that would be pretty interesting. What's the lock attached to and what was keeping the bugler from gaining entry that required the lock to be circumvented?

    Perhaps a safe inside the house with no door had its lock picked? That should still constitute the house having its lock picked, since the safe was part of the house, and therefore so was the safe's lock.

    Of course, it could later be revealed that not only did the house not have a door, but there was no opening anywhere where a door would have been, meaning the one breaking into the house had to either go through a window, bash a hole in a wall, or squeeze down the chimney.

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  34. Headline length limits by tepples · · Score: 1

    Story titles are limited to 80 Latin-1 characters, comment subjects to 50. How would you rewrite the headline?

  35. Re: will be seen as a dig against science (air quo by bitflusher · · Score: 1

    You can bet the Simpsons articles will be analysed and will be cited. Number of citations might also include often used examples of a failure.

  36. ..and Bart Simpson is a Movie Producer by darkonc · · Score: 1

    es, I'm serious. He's a freind of mine, and he's had the name since long before the show went on air. My point is that having the name 'Maggie Simpson' means nothing -- unlike the bogus content. I don't know if they did this, butit seems that a properly juried work should have the name removed from it during the review process.

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  37. Re:Google it by TropicalCoder · · Score: 1

    You were right. I found the reference, but I don't understand why you were modded down to oblivion. Perhaps it was Bing shills, who objected to your use of the "Google is your friend" meme.

    Also in my search, I found this reference to a video that went viral in China poking fun at Kim Jong Un, and I found it entertaining: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetw...

  38. Re:Two Perfectly Cromulent Journals by TropicalCoder · · Score: 1

    I read TFA, and it broke me up! I laughed so hard I almost pissed myself. Seriously...

  39. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by zentigger · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately, this will just get used by anti-science folks to point out how full of shit "science" is.

    Yes, but those idiots aren't actually capable of forming rational arguments. They only know how to recite dogma, and their faith doesn't require proof. Just stating something and believing make it true.

    The reality is that this exposes the strength of science: Anyone can publish a pile of rubbish and call it fact, but the scientific community will quickly call it out, discuss it, and dismiss the rubbish as such.

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  40. Re:will be seen as a dig against science (air quot by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 1

    In both cases, it would still be at least somewhat interesting. Which was my point. Certainly more so than what passes for news some days.

    A house with no door for entry that has a safe with a keyed lock. Generally ones that are large enough to be part of the house have combination locks that you either crack or have to cut through. Certainly not one that can be picked.

    And a house that either requires such security that there is no door, or had a contractor so incompetent that they forgot the door. That's would be interesting in its humor at the very least.