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Army Building an Airport Just For Drones
schwit1 writes The Army's ever-growing use of unmanned aerial systems has gotten to the point where two of the most commonly used UAS are getting their own airport. The service's Corps of Engineers at Fort Worth, Texas, has awarded a $33 million contract to SGS to build a 150-acre unmanned aircraft launch and recovery complex at Fort Bliss for Grey Eagle and Shadow UAS.
In related news, the FAA has just cleared 4 companies (Trimble Navigation Limited, VDOS Global, Clayco Inc. and Woolpert Inc.) to use drones commercially, for purposes such as site inspection and aerial surveys. (A lot of drones are already in use, of course, but the FAA doesn't like it.)
That and "associated maintenance shops, administrative space, storage space, 5-ton bridge crane, oil/water separator, aircraft container and forklift storage, UAV runway, taxiway, access apron, oil and hazardous waste storage buildings, vehicle storage facilities, organizational vehicle parking, and overhead protection/canopy"
You need shelter for the aircraft (hangars), storage for fuel and other consumables (ammunition, film/data storage, etc), repair facilities and their associated storage requirements, facilities for the personnel assigned to the base (at the very least breakrooms and bathrooms, not to mention workspaces and command/control facilities, and probably housing as well-which comes with its own needs), a control tower with both visual and equipment navigation, and of course security personnel and the related infrastructure needed to secure and patrol a secure-access facility. I don't think 10 grand and an old KMart would be able to supply all of those things.
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In related news, the FAA has just cleared 4 companies (Trimble Navigation Limited, VDOS Global, Clayco Inc. and Woolpert Inc.) to use drones commercially
I guess now we know who pushes those "news stories" about all the near-catastrophic near-misses with all of the non-(Trimble Navigation Limited, VDOS Global, Clayco Inc. and Woolpert Inc.) drones.
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Most "drones" available to the average civilian have about as much functionality as an RC place with a GoPro attached. You aren't going to have flocks of the things suddenly falling out of the sky landing on peoples heads and cars.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
In the future, all conflicts will be unmanned battles interspersed with high-casualty WMD attacks on civilian populations.
Southwest already has a bid in on space. There will be a 30% discount on flights that don't require pilots.
Not sure this is something you could crack off from a kmart parking lot.
http://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/ae5d20f/2147483647/resize/652x%3E/quality/85/?url=%2Fcmsmedia%2Fd3%2Fdd56dff8b3364db93f0786ba87db6b%2F43931widemodern_drone_070213.jpg
http://img.rt.com/files/news/1f/be/20/00/an-x-47b-drone.si.jpg
These are medium sized ones.
They also many times reuse old F-XX type craft and turn them into drones. Never mind most kmart parking lots are located in residential type areas and the noise of jet aircraft taking off and landing seems to upset people... (go figure...)
You may be thinking of those little toy rc aircraft people have been playing with that have a camera on them. Then yeah you could do that. But the military basically lives by 'go big or go home'. They do that because they want to land 500-2000lb bombs on buildings and obliterate them. Your little ac craft from amazon probably will not pull that off...
tl;dr These are full out aircraft they are messing with. Not small rc model planes. You need an airstrip for that.
Only because we've been conditioned to accept outrageous levels of spending in the name of "national security".
I hate the over use of drones but RC aircraft do fall out of the sky.
What people don't get is that RC aircraft can be pretty big and dangerous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
People already fly jet RC aircraft that fly at well over 100 mph and mass over 50lbs.
Yes they can kill people which is why they have rules.
You are right that most "drones" are not large or fast but they can be. Maybe a rule of under 5 lbs and under 20 mph for unregulated drones is in order.
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First result:
http://www.networkworld.com/article/2226688/wireless/drone-crashes-into-triathlete--operator-blames--hacker---victim.html
Drone crashes into triathlete; operator blames 'hacker,' victim
'My hair was completely red with blood'
Network World | Apr 7, 2014 11:39 AM PT
You don't think it will really only cost $33 million, do you?
By the time they pad out the budget, get some money for black projects, pay $10K for a hammer ... this should easily hit a few hundred million.
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When you hear "drone" you probably are picturing civilian quad copters. While some military drones are that small, others are substantial aircraft. The Air Force's Global Hawk weighs over ten tons and requires a runway 3700 feet long to take off.
Obviously some military drones can be hand launched, but the MQ-1Cs mentioned in the article weigh 2200 lbs fully loaded and requires a minimum runway of 2000 feet.
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It's already bad enough that they feel entitled to their own flights, but do we really need extra airports for politicians?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
surely the proper nomenclature would be aerial drone aerodrome .
or at the very least, robot roost
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
A full on drone base ont heborder.
Grey Eagle
Maximum speed: 150 knots (170 mph; 280 km/h)
Endurance: 30 hours
Service ceiling: 29,000 ft (8,840 m)
Shadow UAS
Maximum speed: 127 mph; 204 km/h (110 kn)
Cruising speed: 81 mph; 130 km/h (70 kn)
Range: 68 mi (59 nmi; 109 km)
Endurance: 6 h/ 9 h Increased Endurance
Service ceiling: 15,000 ft (4,572 m) ELOS (Electronic Line Of Sight)
Border operations? I wonder what else.
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They are already here.
No wonder you post anonymous.
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
By the time they pad out the budget, get some money for black projects, pay $10K for a hammer ... this should easily hit a few hundred million.
I think there's a common misconception that this "pad out" occurs on purpose. Most of the military officers involved in procurement are still wet behind the ears, and fresh out of college. Requirements come extremely poorly written, and any long term project often ends up with those officers being replaced as the originals move on to their next duty assignment. That means that the next guy in charge frequently changes the whole project.
Don't get me wrong, these aren't the only reasons for high expense on military projects, but they are a huge factor.
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That's nothing, democracy built a society of drones.
Oh! You mean the robot planes. Sorry, my bad.
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I am proof, by way of scientific anecdote.
Back when Moby Dick was a minnow, I bought a remote control airplane and took it out to a pasture and fired that puppy up and immediately crashed it into a tree, resulting in an unanticipated rapid disassemble.
That experiment will be reproduced by 98.78% of the other scientific dipwads out there, so fuck a bunch of remote control aircraft, OK?
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
As a pilot, in the drone industry ... bullshit. The FAA's job is to enhance the safety of aviation. The fewer people who can afford to fly, the safer. On the drone side of things, I've yet to work with anyone in the FAA, govt employee or contractor, who is a pilot or has any interests in flying beyond a means to get somewhere. On the other hand, they have a laser focus on safety, and aren't going to push out half-assed bullshit safety regulations to make the nascent drone industry happy. Simply put, to meet current aviation safety standards, drones will be unaffordable for almost every use case. It turns out that system engineering and redundancy are expensive, and that the magic of drones goes away when they have to meet safety standards.
Yes. Yes it is. In fact, for an airport, support facilities, hangar and maintenance facilities, and proper air traffic control and infrastructure, you'd be hard pressed to get a commercial project for significantly less with the same specifications.
Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?