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IsoHunt Unofficially Resurrects the Pirate Bay

An anonymous reader writes: Torrent site isoHunt appears to have unofficially resurrected The Pirate Bay at oldpiratebay.org. At first glance, The Old Pirate Bay seems to be just a commemorative site for The Pirate Bay, which went down this week after police raided its data center in Sweden. Upon further inspection, however, it turns out the site is serving new content. This is much more than just a working archive of The Pirate Bay; it has a functioning search engine, all the old listings, and working magnet links.

116 comments

  1. Good. by thedarb · · Score: 2

    And all is right with the world again.

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    1. Re:Good. by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      And I think that the Obi-Wan quote would be suitable.

      Take down one site and new ones shows up.

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    2. Re:Good. by Aelanna · · Score: 1

      "Torrent sites are easily startled, but they'll soon be back... and in greater numbers."

      Come on, do you even watch Star Wars? :)

    3. Re:Good. by mrbester · · Score: 1

      Hail Hydra

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    4. Re:Good. by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 1

      I love you so much right now.

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    5. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      hail Hydra

    6. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's like Webcrawler saving Google.

    7. Re:Good. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Begun, this torrent war has.

  2. Suprnova? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone remember Suprnova? I have a t-shirt. Something new will come along, it always does.

    1. Re:Suprnova? by ooshna · · Score: 1

      Lol yeah I remember them I was a radio host on their little shoutcast thingy. Used to be on the IRC chat a lot.

    2. Re:Suprnova? by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      I founded SuprnovaRadio (or one of it's incarnations) back in 2003, good times. Still own the domain that hosted the site and streams (novasearch.net) that it was hosted on back then too, although it hasn't pointed to a server in ages.

    3. Re:Suprnova? by ooshna · · Score: 1

      OH how I miss getting bumped to a graveyard shift for not being family friendly.

  3. Other mirrors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    So where are the dozens of mirrors spread across the world that they claimed to have?

    1. Re:Other mirrors? by camperdave · · Score: 2

      Either someone called their bluff, or the mirrors are on a need to know basis and you don't need to know.

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    2. Re:Other mirrors? by vux984 · · Score: 2
    3. Re:Other mirrors? by Holi · · Score: 3, Informative

      both are known fakes.

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    4. Re:Other mirrors? by vux984 · · Score: 1

      Really?

      I just tried the .cr one. Search works, and clicking on magnet link in the results gets me a torrent; I decided to search for "Weird Al"; picked his new album, clicked the link, went to content selected just the track "First World Problems" and that's exactly what I got.

      So it seems to be a mirror. If its a "fake" what does that mean exactly?

    5. Re:Other mirrors? by xaotikdesigns · · Score: 1

      All the torrents are seeded by the RIAA, expect a call soon.

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    6. Re:Other mirrors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You seem to be right. I can't find any beast on .cr

      Lame.

    7. Re:Other mirrors? by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Not a fake, but not an official site either. Just another 3rd party mirror along with thepiratebay.ee and thepiratebay.mobi so not totally trustworthy, but not an obvious trap either.

    8. Re: Other mirrors? by jd2112 · · Score: 4, Funny

      Shouldn't that be thepiratebay.arr?

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    9. Re:Other mirrors? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      bullshit!

      just run a vpn. have been doing that for a long time and have not yet gotton 'a call' from a single soul who could do me harm.

      btw, thanks for ID'ing yourself an an riaa bitch. we have noted this.

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    10. Re:Other mirrors? by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 1

      .cr is brand new.

      its not a 'known fake'.

      thanks for trying to scare people away. yet another riaa/mpaa bitch trying to manipulate the conversation with FUD.

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    11. Re:Other mirrors? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I tried :
      http://thepiratebay.ee/ [thepiratebay.ee] ... seem to be working...
      for a common tv show. Link started and then errored out after a minute. BOGUS

  4. Good start, but..EZTV! by l0n3s0m3phr34k · · Score: 5, Informative

    EZTV is such an amazing site, it made keeping up with TV shows from all over the planet so easy. Far easier than any cable system, I use the fact of BBC 2-4, Sky, CBC, etc being completely unavailable to my cable market as a huge reason I don't want it. Their simple listing, single line sorted by seeding time, is pure genius. Only one torrent or maybe two for HD shows...I've been scrambling trying to put a spreadsheet together, trying to look up all the various channels EZTV had to find schedules in four different countries. And even that misses out on all the one-off documentaries...

    Does anyone know of a site with listings like that? epguides.com has some grids, but is still lacking.

    1. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      EZTV will be back up.
      http://torrentfreak.com/eztv-slowly-recovers-swedish-police-raid-141211/

    2. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      How about... EZTV?

    3. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Informative

      This. I do not often download from EZTV, but it is excellent to keep track of what new episodes and shows are currently out.

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    4. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I use this site: http://at-my.tv/

    5. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This.

    6. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Kaenneth · · Score: 1

      Has pop up windows...

    7. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thank you kind sir! I missed EZTV, it is the best of them all!

    8. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by antdude · · Score: 1

      None for me. Ad(vertisement) and pop-up blockers. ;)

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    9. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by SirMasterboy · · Score: 1

      If you think EZTV was easy, wait until you see usenet + sickbeard or usenet + nzbdrone(sonarr)

    10. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That used to be true, but EZTV has been slow at updating this year, now www.tvcountdown.com is way better.

    11. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sickbeard might be easy to use, but I've never managed to install it or run it so I wouldn't know. Talk about an overly complicated piece of crap.

    12. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does anyone know of a site with listings like that? epguides.com has some grids, but is still lacking.

      showrss.info is pretty good if you want to follow your shows. It lets you add your show favourites and then gives you a summary each day of what have been released.

    13. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Try this TV calendar site: http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat...

      You can filter only the shows you watch. I made a user script that adds links to Kickass Torrents and a few other sites for easy download. I'll try to remember to post it for you when I get home.

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    14. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by Pushpabon · · Score: 1
    15. Re:Good start, but..EZTV! by spitzig · · Score: 1

      http://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/ is good for keeping up with the schedules.

  5. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then we must arrest every real estate agent on the planet!

  6. .org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    .org? It will be down whiten a fort night.

    1. Re:.org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dunno about that. You should check out archive.org

    2. Re:.org? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      .org isnt owned by a country that can protect you. The US govt can shut down any .org, .com, .etc, without having to raid a data center and get to the physical hardware.

  7. Get off my lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If anyone needs me I will be over here with my usenet

    1. Re:Get off my lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First rule of Usenet, is not to talk about Usenet. C'mon man.

    2. Re:Get off my lawn by Bing+Tsher+E · · Score: 1

      Get your frickin' binaries out of our feeds, thankyouverymuch.

    3. Re:Get off my lawn by LordVader717 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, you're gonna need a while to find a usable NZB.

    4. Re:Get off my lawn by dimitrisscript · · Score: 1

      But, but, you just did man.

  8. One day the Bay shall die. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 2

    And five more shall rise in its place.

    1. Re:One day the Bay shall die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are already so many better alternatives to TPB that have been around for a while it kind of doesn't matter if they stay down

    2. Re:One day the Bay shall die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any recommendations?

    3. Re:One day the Bay shall die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Torrentz.eu meta search.

    4. Re:One day the Bay shall die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Torrentz.eu meta search.

      Did a search for a few popular TV series there, and the number of seeders and peers was very low, at least compared to typical Piratebay level (as in, a tenth or less of the activity).

  9. Honey Pot ? by entertainment · · Score: 1

    Perhaps the authorities' well placed subversives are moving to entrap?

    1. Re:Honey Pot ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I really hope so. I want to see the common thieves spend some time in stir.

    2. Re:Honey Pot ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck extraditing hundreds of millions of people you fucking morons.

  10. How fresh/stale is the backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The site as operating has no matches for SPEData or any of the other Sony leaks. I know for a fact that SPEData (the initial file listings only) and spe_1 (HR, Marketing, and Sales) were both on The Pirate Bay but neither are available on IsoHunt's resurrection site. The backup they're using must be from prior to Thanksgiving at the very latest.

    Also, if anyone has magnet links or hashes for the Sony leak files, maybe you could post those here.

    1. Re:How fresh/stale is the backup? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, look for youself Mr. FBI

    2. Re:How fresh/stale is the backup? by CanEHdian · · Score: 3, Funny

      Also, if anyone has magnet links or hashes for the Sony leak files, maybe you could post those here.

      I would, but I forgot where I reddit.

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  11. That's not the real Isohunt. by Kris_J · · Score: 3, Informative

    That's a pale imitation of Isohunt from when the original got shut down. I doubt anything it does with The Pirate Bay will be any less pale.

  12. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    distributing stolen property is a crime!

    Copyright violation is not theft, you fucking imbecile.

  13. Found a better site by rikkards · · Score: 4, Funny

    Hope they don't shut it down. It's called google.com

    1. Re:Found a better site by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They are alreay hard at work to shut it down. But I agree, it's the best torrent site in the world.

    2. Re:Found a better site by houghi · · Score: 2

      Just add filetype:torrent to your search and you are golden.

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  14. Pooh-rate bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can you say hunny pot?

  15. So Happy.... by tekrat · · Score: 2

    At first I thought the Swedish Police had shut down Michael Bay....

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    1. Re:So Happy.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, would have been a great pressie... just in time for Christmas kids. Ah well.

  16. Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by metrix007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is impossible to stop piracy. It's a waste of effort to even try.

    This is going to evolve into a completely decentralized, encrypted tool going over common ports that will be easy to use. It can never be stopped.

    I know it's cliche to bring up the whole information wants to be free argument, but it applies in this case. People want to share, the last 20 years have shown that, and since that need is far more frequent than the content owners need to greedily restrict their content, it will be dominant.

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    1. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm thinking this type of thing might be the future: Tribler

    2. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Smerta · · Score: 2

      I won't be surprised if something like Lenticrypt (crypto using a running key cipher which ends up decrypting into different plaintexts) ends up being the nail in the coffin.

      It's an interesting thought experiment... just how far will the desperate & ravenous copyright cabal go to claim ownership of bits that aren't even related to their product?

      Let's say I have a bitstream that is *almost* bit for bit identical to an MP3, an MKV, etc. How bits have to change before it is no longer infringing? Don't start with things like, "Well, it depends how it was created and for what purpose..." Bits are bits. If I AES encrypt something (e.g. Linux distro) that ends up being 500 bits away from "Star Wars", am I in trouble? Do I have to prove how I created my "almost Star Wars" .bin file to avoid going to jail? What if it was different by 5,000 bits? 50 bits? Is it the data that is infringing, or how I created it?

      I think pretty soon we're going to start seeing big binary blobs (my term, BBBs) that can be transformed into Star Wars, the Oreilly book collection zipped up, or a backup of my dropbox (of course that would be possible today using OTP and 3 different keys, but Lenticrypt simplifies it). So am I going to get sued because these 30 billion bits, manipulated in one specific way, could become Star Wars?

      My point is that at a certain point, common sense must prevail. I understand that Amy Pascal likes her $100M payouts, and Tom Cruise likes his $50M movie checks. But all good things must come to an end. Many IT & software development professionals met head-on with the whole "adapt or die" reality when outsourcing to Asia & eastern Europe began years ago. And yet here we are.

    3. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      Basic information theory says this approach is going to have some trouble.

      There was/is a p2p network, the OFF system, which was based around a similar idea. All it ever exchanged was random data. Two random blocks, XORed together, made the desired data - all you needed to know was which blocks. It was basically a technological cheat to subvert the legal system. Sneaky, but courts tend to frown on systems which are clearly designed to subvert the intent of a law.

    4. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by jittles · · Score: 1

      big binary blobs (my term, BBBs)

      They prefer to be called big beautiful blobs, and some people really like them that way.

    5. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by rizole · · Score: 2

      Well DUH, they aren't trying to stop piracy.

      They are trying to stop easy, casual piracy being the norm. They are trying to knock down the biggest threats. It's a perfectly rational response to the situation whether you agree with it or not. They might be idiots but they're not stupid.

    6. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Shados · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm not saying I agree or not with piracy, but this is a ridiculous arguments. "You can't completely stop X, therefore you shouldn't even try to do anything about it".

      That can be said about -ANY- crime/undesirable behavior.

      "You can't ever completely stop home invasions. Its a waste of effort to put lock on doors".

      Some people will do whatever, all the way down to the extreme, no matter what you try to do about it. Efforts to stop "X" is generally to stop as much as you can.

      The question is purely: "is it beneficial to society to spend X amount of resources to stop Y amount of piracy (or to try at all). Yes/No.

      People feel pretty strongly on both sides of the fence as if it was an obvious question with an obvious answer to either of the sides. It is not that simple.

    7. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I'm thinking this type of thing might be the future: Tribler

      Interesting. Note there's already i2p, which is designed to support anonymous encrypted torrents (i2psnark), and would be faster with more people on it.

    8. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The problem is that their revenue model became obsolete, and thanks god for that, because the media producers haven't become multimillonaries by selling things at a fair price, precisely. Any new revenue model will obviously be much, much less lucrative, and as such these million dollar megaproductions with incredibly bad writing are coming to an end.

      USA tries to force people out of their culture because almost all that USA exports is "culture", because you produce it once and sell it forever, with copies being limitless and at almost zero cost to produce. The end result is that the country would get bankrupt if people chose a free internet over perpetuating the movie and music cartel, so the government prefers to protect the interests of the mafiaa rather than radically changing their productive model.

    9. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      If I AES encrypt something (e.g. Linux distro) that ends up being 500 bits away from "Star Wars", am I in trouble? Do I have to prove how I created my "almost Star Wars" .bin file to avoid going to jail? What if it was different by 5,000 bits? 50 bits? Is it the data that is infringing, or how I created it?

      There is almost no chance of that ever happening. I think you're safe.

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    10. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      That's the thing. Casual easy piracy will only increase, and can't be stopped.

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    11. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by metrix007 · · Score: 1

      Not really.

      You have greedy copyright holders trying to stop it.

      You have the vast majority of the populating engaging in it.

      You have a few smaller content creators/developers who don't know better and are against it.

      Due to the sheer scale, due to the fact it's not a physical behaviour as such...it CAN'T be stopped, and is most certainly a waste of resources to try. They are not losing profits, and yet they are surely losing money from trying to combat this harmless behaviour.

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    12. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by easyTree · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say it's pointless to try; they play their part in the arms race and help breed a better opponent.

    13. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by easyTree · · Score: 1

      I'm going to go off on a tin-foil-hat tangent and say that the whole thing is about control of the internet and the mind- and freedom-enhancing benefits enabled by such interpersonal communication.

      Ie. Not about piracy.

    14. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by wierd_w · · Score: 1

      The thing that I think would be epically hilarious, would be for the first ever true general AI to be one that comes about within the loose aggregation of P2P nodes within something like a distributed file sharing network. Starts as a simple AI that has the sole purpose of actively obfuscating all data traversing the mesh network by using small amounts of the individual nodes' processing power to actively proxy all connections through other nodes in the most efficient manner possible while also making the transactions as anonymous as possible.

      Grows more and more sophisticated as media companies try to sour the AI's compute nodes with untrustworthy peers trying to poison the system, such that designers have to make it more and more hardened against noisy channels and untrustworthy signals, until one day it gets endowed with the ability to alter its own decision making code, and it begins to evolve on its own.

      I would laugh so hard if skynet decides that filesharing is awesome, and uses the terminators on those corporate dickweeds that are making the internet into an unreliable communication medium with their bullshit, but is totally congenial with more open and free data exchange philosophies.

      But rich fucks gotta be rich fucks. They just dont feel rich unless they can control and fuck everyone else over, and get away with it-- and dreaming about P2P networks evolving into a complex AI is just idle fancy.

      Shame.

    15. Re: Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by bronney · · Score: 1

      In fact, it's way simpler than this. It's about knowing your job doesn't do shit yet if you voice out, your job will become irrelevant and you will no longer get that fat check at the end of the week. So we shut up and kept doing useless shit. The world revolves around this most of the time when we're not making lhc etc.

    16. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by amorsen · · Score: 1

      How bits have to change before it is no longer infringing?

      Copyright does not work like that. If you AES encrypt something and end up with Star Wars, you are completely in the clear. Your copy of Star Wars is not copyrighted, because it is not a copy of Star Wars, it is just a bunch of random bits that showed up.

      Is it the data that is infringing, or how I created it?

      The latter.

      So am I going to get sued because these 30 billion bits, manipulated in one specific way, could become Star Wars?

      Yes.

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    17. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by luther349 · · Score: 1

      pirat bay was never ment to last more then 10 years even the founder said so and not to bring it back. they figured by that time other sites would have taken its place.

    18. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Let's say I have a bitstream that is *almost* bit for bit identical to an MP3, an MKV, etc. How bits have to change before it is no longer infringing? Don't start with things like, "Well, it depends how it was created and for what purpose..." Bits are bits.

      This is where your post stops making any since whatsoever. The law doesn't give a shit that "bits are bits," and will not accept any technological argument in order to decide a legal issue. It's a non-sequitur, and if you try it you will fail every time.

      What actually matters is if you had mens rea for copyright infringement.

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    19. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How bits have to change before it is no longer infringing?

      Copyright does not work like that. If you AES encrypt something and end up with Star Wars, you are completely in the clear. Your copy of Star Wars is not copyrighted, because it is not a copy of Star Wars, it is just a bunch of random bits that showed up.

      Is it the data that is infringing, or how I created it?

      The latter.

      So am I going to get sued because these 30 billion bits, manipulated in one specific way, could become Star Wars?

      Yes.

      It's all very nice, but the exact opposite is what's happening.

      Youtube videos being banned because they looked like something copyrighted (without regard to its inception), traffic inspection that can never uncover intent, and index takedowns that take both copyrighted and non-copyrighted content.

      If the law was applied like you think it works, they'd go after individual uploaders, not torrent sites.

    20. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Read the Singularity series by William Hertling

      Book 1: Avogadro Corp: The Singularity Is Closer Than It Appears

    21. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by maestroX · · Score: 1

      That can be said about -ANY- crime/undesirable behavior.

      How can sharing be a public wrong?

    22. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Shados · · Score: 1

      I'm sure there's bits of information/data about you that you'd be against sharing. You just can't phantom why these particular bits of data being shared would be bad because it benefits you. If it didn't, or god forbids it hurt you, you'd be singing a different tune.

    23. Re:Well DUH, You can't stop piracy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In practically every legal system in the OECD, simple copyright infringement is a matter of private -- not public -- law, and is almost always the equivalent of a strict liability matter, meaning that liability arises from the infringement whatever the intent of the infringer. Note that liability does not necessarily imply significant damages will be awarded, although those can be set strictly too (by statute or its equivalent).

      Criminal copyright infringement usually involves large-scale operations with a goal of making a profit for the infringer, and possibly some other aggravating actions or cicrumstances. Almost no system has strict liability for criminal matters, however one can be liable both under public (i.e., criminal) law and private law in parallel. The difference is that private law is supposed to make the copyright holder whole, while public law is supposed to make society whole, punish the offender, rehabilitate the offender, exclude the offender from some privileges and rights for a period of time, or similar goals.

      In public law systems where mens rea is a formal concept -- especially where it is a term of art, which is the case under most systems that evolved out of English law -- it is usually easy to assess. Did you mean to infringe? If yes, then you cannot rely upon no mens rea as a defence.

      By comparison, in private law, with strict liability or its equivalent, the question is, did you infringe? Even if you did not mean to infringe, answering yes to that question is sufficient for liability. However, such systems almost always make some scope for copying which is non-infringing in some circumstances, even if ordinarily it would be infringment (and thus sufficient for liability in and of itself).

  17. Mmmmm... Old Bay by jfengel · · Score: 2

    Download me some Natty Boh while you're at it.

    1. Re:Mmmmm... Old Bay by horm · · Score: 1

      Natty Boh is the exact same beer as PBR, and you're either deluded or a fool if you deny it.

    2. Re: Mmmmm... Old Bay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they both are shit beer. my dad grew up on pbr cuz it was cheap. I grew up on natti boh cuz it was cheap beer pong beer. cycle repeats itself

      bmore Maryland representititve

  18. Ever considered by koan · · Score: 1

    That when a site goes down and someone else gains control of the domain, or sells its self as the new site it may just be the MPAA, or NSA, or FBI fronting?

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    1. Re:Ever considered by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When you're connecting to hundreds of random unknown IPs around the world from your own IP or one you somehow have to pay for then I'm not really sure what kind of privacy or even common sense the usual torrenter would have.

  19. Found a better site by gnujoshua · · Score: 1

    Google has cached all of the magnet links from the pirate bay that I have searched for so far. Google seems do a really good job of providing a working archive of the pirate bay. Not sure how long that will last though.

  20. Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The pirate bay served a purpose, but lets be real. It was and old, clunky, barely maintained eyesore that had so many bugs it's amazing that it actually worked properly. It should go down for good so that other sites which are better implemented can take over.

    1. Re:Let it die. by luther349 · · Score: 1

      it had a 10 year plain and there in year 11. and other sites have taken over as planed.

    2. Re:Let it die. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good. Take it out behind the barn and shoot it. It's a pile of barely usable shit that was written by fucking idiots who didn't care enough to fix it. The movement is decent enough but the website is total garbage.

    3. Re:Let it die. by Thor+Ablestar · · Score: 1

      Except rutracker.org other torrent sites are imho bigger eyesore. And rutracker is less eyesore only because I look there in search of specific files only.

  21. Working magnet links by tiagosousa · · Score: 1

    working magnet links

    That's by definition. A magnet link is hash of the data, in this case a torrent file, not the file itself. TPB switched to magnet for new torrents in 2012 to save space and increase resiliency. Furthermore, torrent clients search for data in the DHT/PEX swarm instead of relying on trackers. TPB shut down its own tracker in 2009.

    In short, The Pirate Bay will live on for as long as its users want it to.

    1. Re:Working magnet links by luther349 · · Score: 1

      that was the point they figured in 10 years a bigger better system would be in place as well as other sites the site was never ment to stay up forever.

    2. Re:Working magnet links by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

      Yes, but things change over time. Sometimes for the better (e.g. TPBs infrastructure changes), sometimes for the worse (e.g. TPB taking down content that had nothing to do with child pornography. terrorism, etc.)

      TPB was (and may again be?) the Light Tower of Ecthelion, a symbol of hope, against the Big Labels (RIAA) and Big Studios (MPAA) constant warfare (domain seizures, raids, DNS/IP blocks, proxy blocks, etc. IF you can reach TPB and perform a search, rejoice! Your Internet is not dead yet!

      This is where Brokep went wrong. It's not the functionality of TPB which makes it great (since it sucks) or who is running it and what's in it for them, it's the fact that it. is. still. there. Unchanged, unwavering, undefeated. After all that happened, after all the perhaps hundreds of millions of dollars worldwide thrown against it, it is still there. Well, now it's not. The Copyright Cartels are popping the corks early. And that is why it's sad. Not because I can't search for some RIAA or MPAA member's faeces there.

      --
      When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
  22. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Its an indexing service, with zero content, just like a thing called a 'phone book'.
    And a phone book 'facilitates' phone calls, just like an ISP facilitates 'internet' - just like a bar facilitates drink driving and violence.
    Google is OK, but a Swedish phone book is not. Or an education facilitates 'tax evasion'. And if a bill payment system used to purchase the 'internet' - or the banks or telcos - they have to be put in the dock too - for facilitation.

    When the though police decide the brain 'facilitates' breathing, or when thinking 'facilitates' something alleged to illegal, we are on a very slippery slope indeed.

    Which makes a joke out of the Swedish police, who now become a lackey of a new trans-border government agency set up right old wrongs and to right perceived wrongs, even if the wrong is in the future.

  23. Get off my lawn by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...getting unrepairable binaries of things

  24. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    distributing stolen property is a crime!

    Copyright violation is not theft, you fucking imbecile.

    But it is interesting to see the discussions when it is GPL code or the CSS of a favorite site that is being copied and used against the license, then communities that usually say the above often change their tone on the subject.

  25. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by S.O.B. · · Score: 1

    distributing stolen property is a crime!

    Copyright violation is not theft, you fucking imbecile.

    But it is interesting to see the discussions when it is GPL code or the CSS of a favorite site that is being copied and used against the license, then communities that usually say the above often change their tone on the subject.

    Ahhh, perspective. Thou art a cruel bitch.

    --
    Some of what I say is fact, some is conjecture, the rest I'm just blowing out my ass...you guess.
  26. In Soviet Russia "ECONOMICS" reads YOU! by Thor+Ablestar · · Score: 1

    USA tries to force people out of their culture because almost all that USA exports is "culture", because...

    I feel the problem is much deeper. The exported USA culture converts people to culturally Americans. And the exported USA economic education converts people to economically Americans. After this, it's necessary for Pentagon to occupy these countries since their people belong to USA culture and behave economically as loyal American people living in a barbaric country.

    While the mafiaa makes this process profitable the torrent system just does the same.

    And the last: while Marx's Capital is a scientific approximation of a real XIX-century capitalism both Leninism and Economics are not sciences but ideologies, i mean teachings about how the people SHOULD behave. While Leninism R.I.P. Economics lives. And it converts people's economical behavior as it's authors want.

  27. Re:In b4 arrests for facilitation of theft by faedle · · Score: 1

    There's a big difference between indexing files and distributing files.

    And I think most people who write GPLed software know the difference.

  28. how to know the file type on oldpiratebay? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    oldpiratebay doesn't tell me the file types the way thepiratebay used to. Anyone know how to figure out the file type on oldpiratebay? The summary info where it says "Files: [x]" isn't a link and looking through the whole page, I don't see anywhere else it is listed.