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A Domain Registrar Is Starting a Fiber ISP To Compete With Comcast

Jason Koebler writes: Tucows Inc., an internet company that's been around since the early 90s — it's generally known for being in the shareware business and for registering and selling premium domain names — announced that it's becoming an internet service provider. Tucows will offer fiber internet to customers in Charlottesville, Virginia — which is served by Comcast and CenturyLink — in early 2015 and eventually wants to expand to other markets all over the country. "Everyone who has built a well-run gigabit network has had demand exceeding their expectations," Elliot Noss, Tucows' CEO said. "We think there's space in the market for businesses like us and smaller."

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  1. Re:Yeah, sure, any day now... by houstonbofh · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are not taking on Comcast. They are taking on Charlottesville, Virginia. And Comcast has to be careful how it fights them or it can lad itself in trouble in ALL of it's other markets. (Or worse, regulated more than it is now.)

  2. One cow to rule them all! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tucows to bind them

  3. Re:High throughput spamvertising! by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Filthy shameless spammer. Still a better love story that Twilight... ^H I mean still a better choice than Comcast.

  4. ABC (Anyone But Comcast) by ZipK · · Score: 2

    We live with DSL speed from a local ISP rather than deal with Comcast or AT&T. We'd be plenty happy to see a gigabit service from another provider!

    1. Re:ABC (Anyone But Comcast) by KittehJeff · · Score: 3, Informative

      I dont' know i had 3mbit from verizon and it was pretty nice, then we got comcast, 6mbit, was pretty ncie, i had 150mbit and I barely notice any speed. Dropped to 50mbit and still don't notice a difference. The internet is just so bogged down now a days, we just need to clean up the latency more than anything.

  5. Ah Tucows... by Dwedit · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Ah...Tucows...
    Download anything from them and it will be loaded with extra adware with a very tricky sequence of clicks to not install any of it. Yes, this even means not agreeing what looks like a license agreement, but is actually an offer to install crap.

    I'd probably take even Comcast over them.

    1. Re:Ah Tucows... by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      Have you been to Cnet lately? They used to be the place to download shareware / freeware back in the early 2000s and prior. Back in the 90s, CNet was the premier place to go for all the latest in computing news and internet fads (along with ZDnet). Back then, Weatherbug was spyware and AVG was the anti-virus of choice. Now the Internet is all flipped upside-down. Cnet contains links to dubious apps and tricks you into some download app, WeatherBug is clean (and awesome), and AVG contains a craptastic IE toolbar that's impossible to remove completely without resorting ripping it out manually via some utility like Autoruns.

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    2. Re:Ah Tucows... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      That wasn't your room mates, that was a tucows spam bot pretending to be your room mates who love their new Ting mobile service and their LOW LOW PRICES!

  6. Holy Crap by rogoshen1 · · Score: 2

    Tucows is still around??? I remember downloading crap from them in 1995. A quick google shows that not much has changed in the intervening 19 years.

    Does their fiber service come with the signature bloatware as well?

    (Side note, it's interesting to see internet companies that ostensibly have no reason to exist, yet are still alive and .. sorta-kinda-maybe-kicking today. Lycos for example. I'm frankly gobsmacked that they might wind up outliving their labby mascot. Or askjeeves, no quasi-witty joke needed.)

    1. Re:Holy Crap by Trepidity · · Score: 4, Informative

      They're around in some indirect sense, but the current company named "Tucows" is mostly a different one. Tucows was a Michigan-based internet company that in 2001 was acquired by a Toronto-based company, Infonautics. Infonautics subsequently changed its own name to Tucows, because it was a better-recognized brand. So the current Tucows is largely a rebranded Infonautics, and still headquartered in Toronto. But, it does also own the former Tucows assets as well, so they persist in that sense.

      Businesses that have gone through as many rounds of acquisitions and mergers as this one have are a bit Frankensteinish, so it's hard to say what is new or old or mashed up together.

    2. Re:Holy Crap by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 2

      Sort of like how the current Atari is nothing to do with the 1980s Atari except for the name and the logo. Short version though, I think increased competition like this can only be a good thing. If small companies start doing fiber buildouts, it'll kick the incumbents like Comcast into having to step up their game to compete rather than just sitting on their backsides collecting rents. It's already happened in the areas Google Fiber showed up.

  7. Re:Yeah, sure, any day now... by mysidia · · Score: 4, Insightful

    And Comcast has to be careful how it fights them or it can lad itself in trouble in ALL of it's other markets.

    There is one simple way Comcast can fight them.... deliver a better service with better support at lower cost to the consumer, and do it in a way that makes the customers happier and more excited about their service than Tucows.

    It does mean Comcast has to probably offer the 1 Gigabit or better service at a lower price than what Tucows is rolling out.

    If Comcast uses any other method to fight them, then Comcast deserves to be more tightly regulated.

    Of course if Comcast actually gets competitive and causes Tucows to fail fair and square, then once there is no effective competition once again, Comcast could raise their prices or take other new actions as a result of becoming a monopoly ---- in that case, I would expect the regulators to tighten their reigns heavily and create a cap on Comcasts' revenue and requirements similar to the Telco regulations requiring the phone companies to build-out and service all customers (no cherrypicking high-revenue customers; no excluding the "Top or Bottom 2% of users" who have been deemed unprofitable customers).

  8. Re:Yeah, sure, any day now... by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I.e. if Comcast uses excess profits from everywhere else to provide ridiculously low priced service (aka walmart breaking into a new market until the competition goes out of business).. then Tucows can't win.

    I think the lines need to be built by and maintained by one company or by the municipality and the service provided by competition.

    There are good and bad points to excluding customers. It's ridiculous to run a 20 mile fiber to one person's house or even a group of five or six houses and charge them the same as everyone else. If they want cable- they should live with the rest of civilization.

    OTH, left to their own devices providers will cut "less" profitable customers over "highly profitable" customers. Which doesn't work with something that is basically a public utility.

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  9. Re:Yeah, sure, any day now... by mwvdlee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If comcast provides better quality for lower price in Charlottesville, they're basically admitting that they sell overpriced, low-quality in the rest of the nation, which provides legal ammo to those opposed to them.
    Ofcourse, all of this would be good for consumers, competitors and pretty much everybody... except Comcast themselves.

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  10. They've come a long way ... by ubrgeek · · Score: 2

    I vaguely recall their early tagline as being "The Ultimate Collection Of Winsock Software" before branching out to things like being a registrar.

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  11. Re:Tucows start by markhb · · Score: 2

    General Atomics and the original AT&T were the other parts of InterNIC, but only Network Solutions provided registration services (rs.internic.net). IIRC, AT&T's role was to supply Directory services and General Atomics were to supply some services that they failed miserably at, which got them booted out of the contract.

    Wasn't the original head of Tucows (The Ultimate Collection of Winsock Software I believe it stood for) a guy named Scott? Is he still there?

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  12. Re:Yeah, sure, any day now... by kbrannen · · Score: 2

    I think the lines need to be built by and maintained by one company or by the municipality and the service provided by competition.

    I totally agree with you. Of course, that means that we start to treat broadband like a utility and not a private business, which is fine by me.

    There are good and bad points to excluding customers. It's ridiculous to run a 20 mile fiber to one person's house or even a group of five or six houses and charge them the same as everyone else. If they want cable- they should live with the rest of civilization.

    I think you need to think that thru a little more. Going by that logic, you're saying that farmers (who grow your food) and others who just like small town life don't deserve high-speed internet. I'm not sure what word I want to apply to that, but you don't come out looking so nice there.

    Now, if you want to say that those who live further out will need to pay a bit more because of their situation, I think most of us could agree to that. Of course, with the advent of putting access points on water towers and other high places and then a receiver/transmitter dish on the person's house so that lines don't have to be run to individual houses, even those of us not in "the big city" can get better speeds at mostly reasonable prices.