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Minecraft Creator Notch's $70 Million Mansion Recreated In Minecraft
theodp writes In case you've fallen behind on your TMZ reading, Minecraft creator Markus "Notch" Persson used his Microsoft money to outbid Beyonce and Jay Z for the most expensive mansion in Beverly Hills. Now, the Minecraft mogul's new $70 million mega-mansion has been recreated inside the game that made him rich.
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23,000 square feet, with 15 bathrooms and eight bedrooms
It's his money to spend and I wouldn't stand in his way, but what a waste. Makes you wonder what kind of good could have been done or how many lives could have been saved with that $70 million.
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I heard you liked Minecraft and Mansions...
After 8 years of onsite computer repairs, I have a deep insight into this sort of thing. At my company we have a nickname for people who make $10,000 a month and have $5,000 of it go to their 5000 sq ft mansion. They're "poor people living in a big house." Why the hell do people spend that much money on a house? If I won $200,000,000 in the powerball, I'd buy a 3000 sq ft house. Then I'd spend the rest on awesome stuff. Who the hell wants a giant house like that? Plus, that's how NFL players keep going broke. You know if you make it to the NFL or make Minecraft that you're making a ton of money ONCE. Like one and done, surprise you're poor. I'd hoard that money like crazy and budget it out over 100 years. What and idiot.
To anyone about to say real estate is an investment, go look at his electric bill, cleaning bill, and property taxes.
why?
instead he bought an office building
pay for some dumb game to make a retarded nerd rich. this is why you're all poor.
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The 3% of his fortune that he spent on a house does seem like terrible money management.
Wait, what?!?
You might be a troll, and that's fine...
But he is not an idiot, he spent about 3% of his wealth to buy a house. Most people spend FAR more than that to buy a FAR smaller house.
Who is the idiot?
Looks like he was mostly paying for location.
... Who wouldn't buy that kind of house even if I was insanely rich ? I mean what's the point to live in a glossy brochure mansion, I would never feel home in such an soulless place.
I guess I'm old. I'd prefer a counterstrike map of the building at work. :-)
He's got over 2 billion more.
Sweden has some pretty hardcore taxes for the rich. Don't get me wrong, he's still a very monied guy (he made plenty before the sale as well) but it isn't like he got to keep all the cash. Sweden doubtless took their cut.
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Can someone tell me if I'm smoking crack or are there three separate fire extinguishers in this picture [1]? Why are there fire extinguishers in a bathroom?
The whole "open space car garage" seems way outlandish, and the use of glass is pretty atrocious, but the views and decor seem pretty awesome. I wonder if the cost to upkeep and maintain such a home might exceed my mortgage costs.
[1] http://images.prd.mris.com/ima...
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23,000 square feet, with 15 bathrooms and eight bedrooms
It's his money to spend and I wouldn't stand in his way, but what a waste.
Sometimes such a purchase is mostly an investment, albeit a comfy investment that you can live in. Its highly likely he is expecting a "greater fool" to come around and pay much more even after adjusting for inflation and the safe alternative of buying US treasury bills instead.
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No it doesn't. People with that much money store it at the bank and the money just lies there. It doesn't make the economy work it just inflates somebody else' bank account.
It inflates the bank accounts of Apple, Google, Facebook, etc, and probably your state and local government too. Wealthy people generally don't put their money in a bank account and collect interest, they generally put it into some sort of investment portfolio where the money goes into stocks and bonds. Bonds would include both corporate and municipal bonds. Municipal bonds fund a lot of state and local infrastructure, and sadly boondoggle projects.
Wealthy people may also invest in real estate. Which is probably what the $70M mansion is all about. The vast majority of that $70M probably represents the land not the blingy mansion that sits on it. The tax bill might be public record, that would define land value vs structure value.
Notch is a perfect example of nouveau riche.
The house is something a Hollywood pimp would own, and speaks
of nothing so much as a lack of understanding what really matters in
this world. ( hint : it's not a house that looks like a rock star lives in it ).
For the same money I could have a private turboprop airplane, and
a house on Maui, an apartment in NYC, a condo in Whistler, and
a large live-aboard sailboat. It doesn't take much imagination to
see that I'd be getting a lot more bang for my buck.
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Quite how many bathrooms do you need in a house that can sleep - I assume - eight pairs of people?
A small bathroom per bedroom is a luxury but not mansion level luxury. My first experience with upper middle-class living was when 3 college friends and myself rented a 4 bedroom home near the university. The master bedroom had a private bathroom, and the semi-secluded bedroom downstairs had a bathroom next to it that was not private but rarely ever used by another other than the occupant of the bedroom next to it (luckily me). The two additional bedrooms were upstairs and shared a bathroom. Even when downstairs the others tended to go to their respective bathrooms upstairs. Other than me only the occasional people visiting for a few hours used it. I definitely got the impression that girls spending the night with me like the semi-secluded bathroom.
So no, one bathroom per bedroom is not a ridiculous idea. Like a hotel guests can unpack all there bathroom stuff and have some privacy and only need to wait for their partners to finish.
While this alpha shit 3d copy conned MS out of billions.... The world is fucking insane!
What's astonishing with these rich people is that all this is insanely tasteles. Personally I'd have to invest roughly another 10 million to get all the crap removed. For instance: WTF are these fountains noisily piddling into the pool constantly and blocking the view?? Which architect had that brilliant idea? ... I'd fire the guy instantly. ...
Rich people: Lot's of money, no taste.
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I'll get modded into the ground, but whatever.
To teach my early teen kids about money, I offered them $20 apiece for each example they could list of how our "rich" neighbor could do something with his money that doesn't benefit me ( besides piling up his cash and burning it to death )
My son went first... "he could buy a million dollar car". (note: he actually drives a 2+ million dollar Veyron, but whatever)
Reply: "Nice try... But I'm a car salesman / builder / mechanic / own stock in GEICO insurance / sell gasoline & car parts / etc... He helped me even if he didn't intend to."
Daughter: "He could put it all in a bank account."
Reply : "Smart girl, but I'm a banker, that guy was super helpful opening up that account, since we need reserve deposits... if he had picked a stock market account that would also be great, my company sells stock to investors so we can expand and build more widgets, and we issue bonds for the same reason..."
In fact, I made it "easier" for the kids... assume that guy is a hateful jerk... now just list what he could do with his money to prevent anyone else from benefitting. What move can he make with his earnings that would benefit no one but himself ?
Anybody here want to guess how much I paid out? right... and thankfully my kids have not learned jealousy of other people's legal gains.
The end of the lesson was this:
The origin of "greed" is rooted in the concept of lusting for what you haven't earned. In context, it's similar to 'coveting'.
It's not evil to want to earn more by serving as many people as you can honestly.
And while we reserve the right to snicker at people who buy solid gold cell phone cases, we don't fall into the trap of greedily wanting to decide if they deserve it (after all, someone willingly traded it for their services) or if they are using their own money as we would. If they're bad stewards, they won't have it long, and in the meantime they can't help but serve others with that money, no matter what they do with it.
(That Veyron driving neighbor sells rap music, a lot of rap music I suppose... but it's a legal living)
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
But I prefer to deal with people that don't waste money of flashy displays of financial mis-management.
It's called Modern Art and it drives geek bonkers. There were a few other similar show-cases with extinguishers in other colors in the living room as well. Rich people like to buy stuff that someone tells them is unique, priceless and very special so I am assuming these are some highly exclusive extinguishers from the 20s and all extinguishers personally belonged to some mayor or director or they were film props and then some "hot" artist dipped them in color and made a couple of million off of them.
So all you've taught your children is the religion of the Invisible Hand, where somehow magically the market benefits people, even though in practice life has been getting worse for the average American over the past 30 years. You are no better than a Bible-thumper, or the Party fanatic who pushed his kids into Komsomol.
Of course money spent will benefit someone - it will at least benefit the person you pay it directly to (usually) - but overall, a particular flow of wealth has no inherent reason to help more people than it harms. My having a problem with ultra-wealthy people has nothing to do with "jealousy", and everything to do with the issues I have with i) the huge amount of power certain few people have over so many others; ii) the fact that some people have access to more resources than they'll ever need to survive, while others do not have access to resources required for basic survival. I certainly won't be personally affected much by such ultra-wealthy people, since I come from a family in the millionaire category and am intelligent and healthy myself (not so great an income as my parents because I spend much of my time doing voluntary work), but I've hung around with them for long enough to know what self-serving, destructive, cruel cunts they can be, all for the sake of a few dollars more.
real estate is an investment, if you aren't living on the property. If you have renters who pay you plus pay their own bills then it can be quite lucrative. And in many places (the US) the tax code is helpful by letting you work out a depreciation schedule to cover the expense of maintaining a property. And often, after a significant amount of time, you can sell the property for more than what you claimed it was worth on your taxes.
For me (a home owner) living in a house is cheaper than living in an apartment of equivalent size. Apartments still have electric bills and water bills, . It's cheaper because while my mortgage + property tax is certainly higher than an apartment. I am very likely to get a significant chunk of my principle back when I sell the house. Assuming the market doesn't crash below what I paid for the house. (I bought at the bottom of the last bubble, not the top). Is this a sure thing? No, of course not. But it's a very manageable risk with a significant reward.
Staying in a small cheap apartment, and saving the extra money is an option too. But in my situation it's a better deal to put it into a house than parking my money in a bank account that yields so little interest that it doesn't break even with inflation. A money market account might be another option versus a house, it's quite a bit more flexible but the risks are real and there are fewer incentive programs.
1.8.1 Minecraft still lags pitifully, especially when you're near water.
But, hey, it's a nice house. A bit too big for me and my needs, but I don't see any problem if he likes it.
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The water fountains could be done with the new particle effects.
It's a nice creative build.
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Whether it's a waste depends on what he wants to do with it. What if he wants to do a lot of code jams? Hmmmm, "Where should we get a half-dozen programmers together for a weekend?" "How about Notch's place?"
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If I won a 9-figure lottery (the only kind I could win, I generally throw a dollar or two in if I notice it's gone over 200 million), the first thing to do after dealing with taxes, etc. is to set up at least one pretty iron-clad trust designed to pay me a nice solid upper-middle-class "salary" every year, with a lot of restrictions on how I could break any principal out of it. I suspect this would also impact taxes if done properly.
Once you have your perpetual senior developer-level salary set up, **then** you figure out what you want to do with the rest, be it toys, long-term investments, completing your dream to visit every strip club in the country (note: if going the "hookers and blow" route, make sure that trust is *really* airtight).
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just a little off
Seriously now, who cares?
In all honesty, I don't understand people like that though. You make that crazy amount of money but you spend it on fancy cars, houses, boats, parties, etc. etc. why? I'm not an overly materialistic person and I've imagined myself in his own shoes, I can't see myself buying all that.
If I made billions the first thing I would do is buy a large property farm, and that would cost me fuck all. Why a farm? Plenty of space to build a small observatory :) I would create my own home in such a way that it would allow me to attach additional rooms to any section, for all the cool hobbies of course! Electronics, wood/metal craft, painting, music... holy hell soooo much room for everything and finally all the time in the entire world to try everything!
This, ladies and gentlemen, is how money is spent... well at least by the ones who enjoy more of life than fancy cars and or a giant mansion.
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The fault is that your argument builds a straw man that the wealthy do *no* good by holding/using wealth, but that isn't the argument. The argument is that they do relatively little with that wealth. One two million dollar car churns the economy, as in, provides jobs, taxes through fees, etc, much less than one hundred 20 thousand dollar cars. A similar thing could be said of a house. A 70 million dollar house doesn't generate 100x the economic activity of 100x 700k dollar houses. Partly this is because many "premium" materials don't generate more economic activity than less premium materials at a fraction of the cost...but the increase in cost is due to rarity and desirability only. Another part is that high priced items tend to require a one team work longer rather than more teams work, concentrating the transfer of wealth rather than spreading it out over broad actors who can trickle wealth down much faster and efficiently than a few who have a large share of it. The idea of "trickle down" is valid, it does happen, but it is more like accidentally watering some plants from a leak in water tank rather than watering a field with irrigation. And when your goal is to grow a crop like an economy, relying on minimal rainfall and tank leaks just isn't a productive way to go about it, as our Norse neighbors have shown.
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We are a small part of the reason he got the cash to burn doesn't mean we get to say how he stacks the cash before he lights them. Hell, give me 70 million and I'll show you what's a real waste of money.
I can just see them asking the seller "who the f--- is this Persson guy anyway?" OTOH, if they have kids of a certain age, they know.
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Speaking of "location", Beverley Hills 90210?! The guy's obviously a sell-out that betrayed his geek roots.
I'd have expected him to move to Lebanon, Missouri. Or- at a push- Plymouth, Florida.
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I really can't think of anything more depressing than buying a house during Christmas. Yes, he does celebrate Christmas. I don't have to check, he's Swedish. If he doesn't celebrate that's even more appaling because I can only imagine how his family would feel about that. Oh yeah, and Minecraft? He was smart to sell it off, because down to its core it is a really bad game. The only thing that makes Minecraft redeemable is having an entire host of mods to change everything. Seriously, what was Microsoft thinking when they purchased Minecraft of all things? I'm sure that future generations will look with shock at this enormous marketing gimmick. It's obvious that there is going to be something that will be better than Minecraft coming around the corner. As much as I've tried to encourage people to play Minecraft, and as much as I tried to enjoy the game, it's so tedious and formulaic. Dig, make the same machines, and those horrible ugly pipes. There are some mods that try to address this, but it just doesn't work. If there's anything that I'd like in that game is that you could use your imagination more. No silly stats that necessitate dumb farms of stupidly growing plants with very unrealistic animal breeding. There are so many better games, why would you play minecraft? Heck solitare is a much better game. Minecraft should have gone the route of a table-top simulator sort of game, but instead got caught up in all the limelight. It's gross.
I think I made the points that
- we leave them alone to enjoy their earnings in peace, and.
- earning is a good thing, even if you are really, really good at earning.
The risk of arbitrarily deciding that you don't approve of my spending, or you want to take charge of my spending because you've established an arbitrary measure of how 'fast' you perceive my money is 'churning' is an affront to liberty. And you've condemned my choices of investment to non-existence.
You know it's not some finite pie, a slice of which I've hidden away selfishly.
Housing in the U.S has gained trillions in value this year, the pie just grew bigger.
Economic liberty trumps meddling, and any system that depends on violating liberty in order to exist is a false economy.
By the way, it gets worse...
I asked my son's self-described leftist high school teacher if he would be confiscating points from the lucky students with ability (whose averages were over 75) and redistributing those points to the unfortunates who needed those points to pass. Fairness would be everyone getting a 70. He seemed genuinely upset..
Pretending this is my office full of bitter coworkers..
I call bullshit.
Not one of us, any of us, has been born into a caste that legally or socially constrains our aspirations or ability to achieve, nor has any one of us received a Monopoly card, bill of attainder, or tablet from the heavens that consigns us to failure and poverty.
Transferring wealth outside of the process of free exchange requires acts of violence or threats of violence by the state, and has proven to diminish the very people it is alleged to help, and ultimately destroys an economy.
The economic illiteracy of progressives is stunning.
I call bullshit. There is a fucking lawsuit right now against Apple and friends for conspiring to limit workers salaries.
Think for one fucking second. It literally took one second to think of it.
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I would think he should be upset, your analogy is terrible at describing reality is is really only beating home your worldview that wealth is earned and everyone deserves their lot in life. But this is way different than an economy. Classes don't have students that are guaranteed to get 100s because their parents had 100s, and neither do we want to teach in such a narrow way that only students who are doing well *will* do well so we try different approaches to teaching and offer outside help, as opposed to what your worldview suggests.
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*cont.. writing on a phone is hard. ...which is that we should pander to a minority and everyone else in the classroom will magically do better just by being around that minority.
I make a very good living (my family income is about 4x the average) because I work hard and am an engineer, but I hardly believe I am completely entitled to it.
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