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The History of the NORAD/Microsoft and Google Santa Trackers

theodp writes: Marketing Land's Danny Sullivan has a pretty epic post on How Google Became A Santa Tracker Tradition To Rival NORAD, and wonders if future generations will think of Santa tracking as synonymous with Google, just as past ones have felt about NORAD. Until it split with Google in 2012 (for unknown reasons) and hooked up with Microsoft, Sullivan explains, NORAD had really been the only place to go for a serious, dependable Santa tracking service. "There's a big part of me that wishes Google had gotten out of Santa tracking when it split from NORAD," says Sullivan of the divorce. "The NORAD Santa tracker brings back memories from my childhood; it brings back memories of me being a father with young kids checking in on Santa's progress. In contrast, Google feels to me like an upstart interloper messing with my nostalgic memories. But maybe Google's a welcome alternative to others. It's not uncommon to see the occasional complaint about a NORAD "Santa Cam" video showing Santa being accompanied by fighter jets. Some might prefer a Santa tracker that's not connected to a military organization. Of course, some might not feel one connected to a giant company is necessarily preferable. Part of me is also sad that when I go to NORAD's own site, I get a big Internet Explorer icon in the top right corner, which effectively opens up an ad for Microsoft. I guess I feel it's too blatant. Of course, complaining about the commercialization of something Christmas-related, I suppose, is kind of useless." Sullivan adds, "Overall, I'm thankful to the many people who are involved with both operations [NORAD Tracks Santa and Google Santa Tracker], who work hard to make children smile on Christmas Eve.""

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  1. Social Media Based Application by Virtucon · · Score: 4, Funny

    We need to have more accurate methods. I suggest a social media app that leverages the best of Google earth and then uses observations to track where Santa is. The updates could then be used to predict speed and direction in order to predict where Santa will appear next. Now for a catchy name. I propose Santa's Annual Tracking Announcement Network or SATAN for short. I will get the Kickstarter rolling.

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    1. Re:Social Media Based Application by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Now for a catchy name. I propose Santa's Annual Tracking Announcement Network or SATAN for short.

      Unfortunately, that name is taken. And so is SANTA, by the same program.

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    2. Re:Social Media Based Application by Livius · · Score: 1

      There's a very small possibility that someone will *falsely* report sighting Santa.

  2. Confused by oldmac31310 · · Score: 2

    When I started reading TFS and found myself dazed and bewildered - words swimming in a blur before my eyes - I was sure that this must be one of Bennett's wonderful epics. But no! Theodp wants to usurp Bennett. Treason!

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  3. NORAD Santa “simulation” tapes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    In the pre-internet age, I was in the military and stationed at Elmendorf AFB. I worked at the ROCC which consolidated the radar air picture to monitor US air space. We had a Christmas “simulation” tape we could play to create Santa and his sleigh on the radar scopes for the benefit of the media.

    The local TV stations would have reports on Santa’s progress throughout the evening and would show our radar screens on the news. I’m sure each regional center had their own tapes for the benefit of their local news.

    NORAD (which we were a part of) had a much more elaborate system, but in the end it was all based on the ability to make training simulations for radar operators.

    1. Re:NORAD Santa “simulation” tapes by halivar · · Score: 2

      I have long believed that the Santa Tracker was a fraudulent government operation. I really began to suspect the conspiracy when I grew out of childhood; about when I got my first college apartment. I noticed that not only did Santa not visit on Christmas Eve (despite a number of sting operations with video cameras), but that NORAD's Santa Tracker had him placed right over my area while these non-visits occurred. I don't know what to believe anymore. I don't really think it's Santa delivering those presents anymore; he's just outsourcing to my parents via UPS. Everything is tainted by corporatism now.

  4. Regardless who Norad partners with. by Holi · · Score: 1

    Regardless who Norad partners with, I will use them. Why you ask? That's easy, they have the radar. I am pretty sure Google is just making stuff up as I don't think they have the radar facilities that the US and Canada have. So when I want to reliably track that red suited bastard, I'll ask the guys who actually know.

    This year I got some new Starstreaks to replace my FIM-92j's, I'm pretty sure I'll shoot him down this time.

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    1. Re:Regardless who Norad partners with. by halivar · · Score: 1

      Maximizing our coal acquisition is how we keep the Nice-list countries energy dependent on us. Santa is merely a pawn in our quest for global domination.

  5. My Kids Nostalgia will be different from mine! by jellomizer · · Score: 1

    NORAD A military organization designed to blast communist out of the skies.
    Google A for profit organisation that makes its money off of selling adds and offers a bunch of free services in return to having those adds in front of you.

    So you are against capitalism however you are supporting the organization that is designed to track and kill people who are against capitalism (just as long as they are flying)

    In general NORAD tracking of Santa is a gimmick to help bring up good will towards the organization. Because this started happening during the hottest part of the Cold War and the military was considered the keeper of all the newest and coolest technology. After the cold war companies tend to have the cooler technology. Transitioning to Google is a natural thing.

    When your kids grow up and they will find that tracking Santa will be done with some other technology and organization they will feel like they are missing something because they will have nostalgia that doesn't match yours.

    BTW Santa for generations is the symbol for consumerism. The reason why kids like him because he is the one that gives them toys. When I was a kid I didn't care about family time or any of the other true meanings of Christmas, I was all about ID and Ego (No Super Ego) and it was all about me getting cool stuff, and a little about seeing what other stuff people got.

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    1. Re:My Kids Nostalgia will be different from mine! by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 2

      In general NORAD tracking of Santa is a gimmick to help bring up good will towards the organization.

      Saw an article last week (early this week?) discussing the origin of the whole business.

      Apparently, it got started with a Sears ad with a typo - the ad included a number to "call Santa", but a misprint gave a number to a NORAD watch officer (from TFA, the phone number was supposed to be known only to the watch officer and the duty general in the Pentagon),

      Anyways, long story shortened, some kids called the number, NORAD guys went slightly apeshit that their secret phone was on a Sears ad, but they decided to play along with it, and since then, NORAD has been "tracking Santa"....

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    2. Re:My Kids Nostalgia will be different from mine! by Holi · · Score: 1

      Except for the first little girl who called, he reduced her to tears.

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  6. I'll play the Grinch by koan · · Score: 1

    Lately I've been wondering why we lie to our children, why the "real life" magic of science and Nature isn't told to them instead, in fact I feel that telling them lies and fairytales from an early age softens their brains up for religion/propaganda later.

    Though I can't prove that, the idea interest me, so anyone have a rational reason (encouraging imagination will not be accepted) to tell their children lies like Santa Claus and the rest of the standard fairytales?

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    1. Re: I'll play the Grinch by fastest+fascist · · Score: 1

      Well, if you want to encourage skepticism in children, what better way to do it than show them they can't even trust their parents not to just make stuff up about magical bearded men. Why, you'd almost think Santa is a devious atheist conspiracy...

    2. Re:I'll play the Grinch by sjames · · Score: 1

      So to translate, "other than a perfectly valid and rational reason that I'd rather not consider, can you tell me a rational and logical reason?"

      But as to the question, every culture has a mythos that (hopefully) reminds it's members of their values and provides for a commonality and a sense of belonging. Naturally, children tend to take it all literally. Why spoil their fun Mr. Grinch?

    3. Re: I'll play the Grinch by koan · · Score: 1

      I was thinking more along the lines of encouraging wonder in things that are real, like Nature that sort of thing, skepticism comes natural when dealing with other humans.

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    4. Re:I'll play the Grinch by koan · · Score: 1

      Your translation is incorrect.

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    5. Re:I'll play the Grinch by koan · · Score: 1

      Of course as I stated "using lies to encourage imagination" and offered up encouraging imagination via things that are real, like the wonder of nature, science, etc.

      See how soft your brain is? All those lies you were told.

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  7. Re:complaining about commercialism by halivar · · Score: 1

    Every depiction of Saint Nikolaos of Myra I've seen has him in red or burgundy. Where does the green come in?

  8. To be soon followed by ... by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

    The NSA Snowden tracker, watching Edward Snowden as he travels around the world, bringing transparency to all the good and bad little boys and girls and agencies across the Internet. Merry Christmas, Edward!

  9. Re:A Solution to the Santa Quantum Wave Function? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    It's simple. In addition to emitting low EM band electromagnetic radiation, Rudolph's nose also generates an chronoton burst on take-off that creates a temporal displacement field. This allows Dasher, Dancer, Prancer, Vixen, Comet, Cupid, Donner, and Blitzen to generate an anti-graviton field that causes inverse time dilation allowing travel along spacelike paths. One can anticipate Santa's arrival by remodulating sensors to detect the spontaneous generation of tachyon anti-tachyon pairs.

  10. Well the government is not the only game in town a by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    Back in the eighties and nineties, the only organization who could even feasibly track Santa was the military, because they had the radar and private companies like Google did not own their own satellites taking pictures of the whole globe 24 hours a day. Nowadays, the idea that Google would do just as good a job of monitoring Santa as NORAD, is not far fetched.

  11. Possible Alternative by carrier+lost · · Score: 1

    Some might prefer a Santa tracker that's not connected to a military organization. Of course, some might not feel one connected to a giant company is necessarily preferable.

    Maybe Santa will offer an app

  12. Santa shot down by rich_salz · · Score: 1

    A friend's kid was watching the tracker. His network glitched and for a minute he got the [X] icon instead of the sleigh image. He started crying that Santa got blown up.

  13. Sounds like a similar story. by nimbius · · Score: 1

    in the sixties AT&T used to maintain a central communications hub with redphones in the event of orders for a nuclear launch. the phones would all ring, operators would then pick up the phones and wait for the base or military installation they were told and route the call accordingly. The number was mistakenly dialed once by a talk radio show in chicago looking to prank call a celebrity. the jocks were pretty shocked when all 15 redphone stations responded waiting for connection orders from the president.

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  14. Real-time radar versus processed satellite images by AF_Cheddar_Head · · Score: 1

    Not really the same thing and only one is appropriate for tracking a flying object. Although you would be amazed what those satellites can track when the data is processed.

  15. Re:Well the government is not the only game in tow by Holi · · Score: 1

    Pretty sure Google still doesn't have satellites, they buy their images from DigitalGlobe like everyone else.

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  16. Re: Real-time radar versus processed satellite ima by brunes69 · · Score: 1

    To a 4 year old its the same thing.

  17. Technology and reputation by Livius · · Score: 1

    Today Google is a household word and a name associated with bleeding-edge technology.

    There was a time, however, when NORAD was second perhaps only to NASA as the brand most associated with advanced technology, at least among names that would be familiar to children.

  18. 2014 Santa Tracker Review, From NORAD To Google by theodp · · Score: 1
  19. What really matters by Rei · · Score: 1

    I know, write? Who gives a flying flip about an app to track a jolly magical man with an eating disorder.

    Now, if someone would make an app to track the Yule Cat, Grýla, and her progeny, then that I would have interest in!

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  20. Data mismatch by manu0601 · · Score: 1

    NORAD and Google report different path and different count of gifts distributed. Does that means there are more than one Santa Claus? That would explain how he manages to cover the world within one night.

  21. NORAD Santa incompatible with Firefox? by chris_clay · · Score: 1

    We always used the NORAD site in the past. However this year, it no longer loads up and has an Internet Explorer icon in the upper left corner. It appears that the site is incompatible with standards browsers like Firefox and Chrome. Oh well, I guess we will use the Google tracker instead, which is compatible and works fine in ALL browsers. Sad that they would shut out people from using the site.