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Samsung Galaxy Note Edge Review
MojoKid writes Differentiation is difficult in the smartphone market these days. Larger screens, faster processors, additional sensors and higher resolution cameras, all are nice upgrades but are only iterative, especially when you consider the deluge of products that come to market. True innovation is coming along with less frequency and Samsung, more so perhaps than some other players, is guilty of punching out so many different phone models that it's hard not to gloss over new releases. However, the new Samsung Galaxy Note Edge may offer something truly useful and innovative with its supplementary 160 pixel curved edge display. The Note Edge is based on the same internal platform as the Galaxy Note 4, and features a 2.7GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 SoC with Adreno 420 graphics and 3GB of RAM. What makes the Galaxy Note Edge so different from virtually all other smartphones on the market is its curved edge display and what Samsung calls its "revolving UI" that offers app shortcuts, status updates, data feeds and features all on its own, but integrated with the rest of the UI on the primary display. You can cycle through various "edge panels" as Samsung calls them, like shortcuts to your favorite apps, a Twitter ticker, news feeds, and a tools panel for quick access to the alarm clock, stop-watch, a flashlight app, audio recorder and even a digital ruler. The Galaxy Note Edge may not be for everyone, but Samsung actually took curved display technology and built something useful out of it."
For inventing a phone that's not only even easier to crack the screen on than a regular smartphone but also can't be held on both sides AND can't use a protective case.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
The iphone rocks 1GB like it's 2004
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Uhhh, 32 and 64 gigs would be the storage it has, not the amount of RAM. What on earth has slashdot come to that people don't know the difference between these?
The summary is completely correct. It has 3GB of RAM (as in system/processor memory), which is actually as big as it gets these days for premium smartphones. 32GB of Flash storage is what you're thinking of, which is not RAM, obviously. And yes, the device has a 32GB Flash setup. So, you're wrong and that's what else is new I guess.
Here's the use case problem I think it can solve better, or at least somewhat. When you're actually in an app, you can pull up shortcuts to other apps as well as use edge panel apps simultaneously, without having to go back to the home screen. Other phones offer split screen or windowed views but this is a different and in some cases better (in some not) way of multitasking.
So earlier in the discussion we've got a post confusing RAM and storage, and now one "thinking" that 1080p is the limit of usefulness. WTF?
Until the 4K TVs become popular, 1080p is the limit your camera can successfully show to you.
There are other ways to make images viewable other than looking at them on a monitor, and plenty of reasons for wanting more pixels than can be displayed on most monitors.
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I wasn't the anonymous coward, however:
http://www.cnet.com/news/apple...
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1080p monitors are rolled out, 4K monitors are too new. Anything bigger, uhm, you're going to need to assemble a video wall to get that to work.
So what's it a knock-off of? I don't see it being all that useful, but that's another matter entirely. Anyway, this is supposed to be news for nerds, and shoving another touchscreen into a device in a silly place is a very nerdy development.
Glossy print, you fool.
What's the problem? I don't see a real use case that this Samsung UI solves.
Some of the screenshots showing it being used as, basically, a taskbar. That gives it desktop-esque single-tap app switching without losing any of a small device's precious screen space. There were also images of it showing hardware controls (wifi on/off, etc.), app controls (camera shutter and settings), app settings, etc.
The problem it seems to be solving is how to cram easier, faster device control into a phone without reducing usable area.
Or if you have heard of "digital zoom", "printing" or can afford $700 or so for a 2560x1600 monitor. Not everything is useless because we have a crappy tablet used as our only/main computer.
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Yet the iPhone actually does multitask...
Yeah, what the hell is this, HackerNews? :-)
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They just don't need the same kind of RAM as systems. Remember this is RAM, not the flash storage. That they have 32 and 64gb of.
As a practical matter all but a very few ARM processors are 32-bit and so can't address all that much memory anyhow without some kind of paging.
I think many state issues are due to poor app writing. For example, the ms excel app bails out of the active file when the app goes to the background, but other spreadsheet apps have no problem maintaining open files in the background.
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" Is this 2010?"
No, but its not even 2061 yet, let alone 3001
A distinguished but elderly scientist once wrote that petabyte storage devices would be enough for 3001
3GB of RAM is good. 32GB of Flash is good. I don't know of any android devices with more, but you could have more. These days, 1GB is "normal" and 2GB is high-end.
You just demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the subject that you misunderstood the summary (which wasn't wrong, though you asserted it was) But don't let lack of knowledge of the subject stop you from asserting your wrong opinion as truth.
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It all started when they let the womens in.
While the idea is neat in general it seems to only make the biggest complaint I have with my phone even worse, accidental touches of the frame.
The industry is chasing ever narrower bezels and ever more sensitive touch panels to the point where phones can only be easily held with the palm. I have to disable the sensitivity boost on all the Galaxy phones I own (impacts the ability to use hover preview functions which are great if I'm cooking and someone sends me a txt) because I like using my phone upside down. When I use it upside down I grip it. When I grip it it registers as a touch on the screen edge making scrolling or using the keyboard difficult.
Now they're actually giving us content to accidentally click which will just make it worse.
That depends on the device and how it's set up.
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The comment is rather spot on. We have not seen significant improvements in cpu power and memory for a while. My iphone 6 and my macbook pro could be a little faster.
This is not a troll, I do not know why this guy was modded down. It is a very valid opinion, and the modding just because I do not like it is getting severely out of hand. BTW, 4K TVs are already accessible now.
Often I wonder wether MS just codes poor apps or they write apps with problems on purpose to diminish the good experience on competing platforms. I only used iWork apps for iPhone/iPad for this particular reason, and because they integrate quite well with the ecosystem, and on top of that they read and save MSOffice formats.
Since most of Samsung's UI attempts make me want to place pencils in my eyes and slam my head into my desk...but the underlying specs are usually worth rooting...maybe in a few months some root might come up with some actual, useful ideas for this. Personally I'd like to have that edge have some decent music controls as one pane, and be able to send specific apps notifications to it. Like my various server health checks, so I can just look at the side of the phone and see green / red / yellow dots like the app I'm using now.
I wonder about a case however...it might take awhile before skinit gets a cargo case for it. That's about the only brand I buy or recommend, I've dropped that phone on it's side, face, into 1-3mm of water, tumbling onto the ground up under my jeep when I forgot it was sitting on my lap when I get out...still very few scratches or anything after almost 2 years of the S3.
But ATnT can go fuck themselves with this phone sideway up their ass, after spending some time as a CSR for them and watching the draconian 2gb to 3gb forced upgrades via over charges I'd not use them even if they paid me to. I'm already at 2.1gb this month, with 17 days left to go..it says unlimited on Tmobile but I don't pay the bill anyway. Even still, I wouldn't allow anyone else to give ATnT Mobility their money either if I can help it. Handset exclusivity is another reason AtNt can suck it and choke. Just like their semi-illegal ISP exclusivity contract they have lied to and convinced my apartment is completely legal despite FCC rulings to the contrary since 2007.
The only decent thing AtNT has done in the last 20-30 years was when I gave out over $16,000 in "adjustments" to customers in one month during the Christmas season. I was the "top rep" for refunds in the entire company, like 10X higher than #2. But since we had so much overtime and constant calls, I rarely went over the $250 "soft limit" and ALWAYS documented why I did when I did in the ticket. Corporate even had some investigation but by then these people where sending in "kudos" notes, emails, and surveys for me and the documentation was tight so it was much fun.
I kinda look at it like SCL Punk's ending lines of hitting them from the inside. In the pocketbook where it hurts the worst LOL.
> Differentiation is difficult in the smartphone market these days.
> all are nice upgrades but are only iterative
Please give us one huge upgrade - simple QWERTY. Last QWERTY phone is N900 from 2009. The next will be Jolla+TOHKBD in 2015 just thanks to a community funding effort (but still with weak hardware from 2013). Everybody in forums wants QWERTY but no single manufacturer makes one.
Interesting both QWERTY phones also run Linux OS (that is not Android) despite both features are technically completely unrelated. And there are very few non-QWERTY Linux OS phones.
The guy who wrote the summary was too lazy to scroll down and get the actual stats on ram. When I submit articles, I do more than read the first paragraph of the source.
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Given that most android devices have expandable (flash) storage, that stat is one of the least interesting ones. RAM is usually (never?) expandable. So it's a more important stat. The important ones were included in the summary, and no errors were made in the summary. Though you assert there was to cover up the error you made.
When I submit articles, I summarize them properly. That's why mine have been rejected every time. Even when the same article was accepted by someone else who submitted it later, with a copy-paste of the first two paragraphs.
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Given that most android devices have expandable (flash) storage
Mine doesn't and I bought it this summer. Sucks to be me, I guess :-) Merry Xmas.
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The HTC One M7 doesn't have an SD slot, but the next year's model, the HTX One M8 does. They cut it out to save a little weight, thickness and cost, but found that people wanted it more than they wanted the benefits of not having it. So they "upgraded" the new model with a better camera, CPU, and an expansion slot. The overwhelming majority of phones sold have an SD card slot, though a few of the popular ones don't, but usually only for a side-model, not the actual flagship.
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In the end it doesn't affect me much - I just transfer my files to my laptop to free up space. It's a lot more convenient to do that than dump it in some "cloud".
On a side note, we're seeing the end of personal computing, in the sense that most computer-related activities aren't (or can't) be confined to your personal space - your computing devices. Even games that should be able to run independent of the network somehow "need" to phone home.
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I imagine you are referring to the Sony/MS game station outages, but they are overblown by liars. I have a game that requires a PSN login, and it worked fine with the network down. Though any achievements might not count. I'll have to check when the network is back up.
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I wasn't even thinking of that. More along the lines of all the games that don't include "all the parts in the box", selling DLC, and those that need to validate with a server every so often. But, I was also referring, in a more general way, to the push away from stuff that can run strictly locally - your data is their data.
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
I guess I forgot to account for 300-600 dpi printers... but the point is, most photos are being shown on displays, not paper.
4K is out in release, but there's nothing to watch on it yet. TV is limited to 1080i simply because nobody is providing higher. Blu-Ray discs go to 1080p, the disc is ready for 4K but no movie has been put on that kind of disc yet.
Who cares about BluRays or the regular movie distribution nowadays? There are already content out...lots of 4K porn movies and clips for starters. Have not checked one yet. There are also already some 4K movies - I have 2 or 3 and boy they are gorgeous. Youtube has already 4K movies and lots of trailers, and watching the place of my holidays, Palawan or my hometown in 4K, is a delight to the eyes. Amazon is already streaming 4K movies and Netflix will follow suite. Satellite TV Channels in 4K will appear in 2015. Also my MacbookPro already outputs 4K and it makes for a superb extra monitor or for showing movies or photos. P.S. I no longer own DVD or BluRay players at all.
Interesting use-case. A slider widget would be the highest embodiment rather than toggle widgets. As you suggest controls are disruptive interfering and not easy sometimes while using devices at the same time. SO that would be architectural kernel level interrupts and scheduling which could enable the device to work uniquely rather than decorative buttons along the edge.
I'm curious if they went to that level of innovation or if its just gingerbread design kitsch. Thanks...I'll check it out.