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Ask Slashdot: Best Options For a Standalone Offline Printing Station?

An anonymous reader writes My father is considering a Chromebook, but there is a problem: He occasionally wants to print. Chrome OS only talks to physical printers by Google Cloud Print, so the printer has to be online one way or another. But my father wants to surf over 3G, so he has no network infrastructure. Now what are the best options for a standalone printing station that works offline? I have a Raspberry Pi and a small touch display that I could spare, how about I prepared some scripts and called that the dedicated printing computer? Then what printers have ARM drivers available? Does anybody know a consumer-grade or small-office-grade printer that can print ordinary PDF docs directly from flash drives or memory cards? I have looked, but could not find one yet. The devices I found that print PDF docs directly only do so if the docs were made by the (proprietary) printer-related software or the printer itself. There are ways to turn PDF docs into series of JPG files. A lot of ordinary printers can print JPG files directly from flash media, should my father stick with this option? Also, what are secondary options in case the offline printing station does not work out? Should he consider buying a 3G-capable WiFi router (there are enough available) and set up a home network, then use Google Cloud Print? Should I just send my father to a copy shop? Or should he simply forget about the Chromebook and get an ordinary laptop with a common OS that can talk to printers by USB?

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  1. Since you've come up with other convoluted ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Get a fax machine, have him email his documents to an email-to-fax gateway, and print them out via that. You'll need a telephone line.

    Alternatively, just buy a low-end laser printer with a USB input. Most have one, and you can stick in any PDF and print it. My Brother printer does it just fine.

    1. Re:Since you've come up with other convoluted ways by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      Or get a wifi hotspot and attach it to a network enabled printer. Google FreedomPop, they have cheap wifi cellular plans. Presumably the bandwidth needs are low.

    2. Re:Since you've come up with other convoluted ways by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Most consumer-grade Hewlett Packard printers these days offer a direct-to-printer network option by simply connecting the notebook's WiFi to the access point defined for the printer. I generally transfer a PDF file to my smartphone via USB cable and connect the smartphone to the printer via WiFi. Works great! I imagine a Google Chromebook can connect to the printer's WiFi access point and print directly.

  2. GNU/Linux by Meneth · · Score: 3, Informative

    You could keep the Chromebook and install some form of GNU/Linux on it. I hear Xubuntu works pretty well.

    1. Re:GNU/Linux by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I was planning on wiping the drive of mine and installing Debian... Crouton works well enough to not bother.

      (Sent from my Chromebook.)

    2. Re:GNU/Linux by gstoddart · · Score: 1

      No, better yet, accept that the guys father doesn't give a damn about GNU/Linux, and has made his own choice on the matter based on his own needs and research.

      Your answer amounts to being asked "can you direct me to the food court" and you responding with "have you taken Jesus as your savior?" It deserves a kick in the nuts.

      Seriously, if you have nothing to add besides "Yarg, teh Chomebook is the sux0r, run teh Lunix" ... get over it.

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  3. Overheard at the googleplex by Hognoxious · · Score: 3, Funny

    Why, in 2015, would anyone want to print on paper at home?

    [finishes moccochoccolatte with aloe vera, hops on fixie and rides off before ridiculous low-crotch trousers get wrapped around chain, causing fatal accident]

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    1. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Interesting

      about the boarding process: whip phone out, scan qr-code that's on your lockscreen (using apple's passport) - why should that be slower than: whip paper out, scan qr-code ? anything but hardcopies of documents, photos can be done digitally now, as you said. coupons ? use your phone. signed documents ? sign them with a legally binding digital signature and mail them (possible at least in the EU). fix-it job outside? tablet (you don't even need to hold a lamp, if it's already dark outside). shopping list? written on my girlfriends phone, synced with mine & vice versa.

      i'm somebody who notoriously loses paper documents or forgets them at home - i hardly ever forget my phone, and even if, i still have my ipad with me - or can use any other internet-equipped device to get to my documents/travel maps/airplane tickets,...

      the only thing i'm still missing is digital ID-Cards like passports or driving licenses - but that's only a matter of time.

    2. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      whoosh!

    3. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by DaTrueDave · · Score: 0

      I believe this is where someone is supposed to say, "Whoosh!"

    4. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      It's actually really easy to print from a Chromebook or Android device, it just needs you to have the printer connected to Google Cloud Print somehow. The OP's specific issue is that his father wants to use 3G, and thus only the Chromebook is connected to the internet and not the printer.

      I would suggest getting a 3G modem/router. Then the Chromebook and the printer can both connect to it, as well as any other devices his father decided to get in the future like a tablet or set-top box. Then it is a simple matter of using Google Cloud Print with a compatible printer.

      List of compatible printers: http://www.google.com/cloudpri...

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    5. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by OzPeter · · Score: 0

      about the boarding process: whip phone out, scan qr-code that's on your lockscreen (using apple's passport)

      My phone is a RAZR V3 you insensitive clod

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    6. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Which makes about as much sense as sending a parcel to your uncle in Nebraska so that when he sees a guy he works with he can give it to him so that next time he visits his son who lives across the street from you he can deliver it.

      When you live in New Zealand.

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    7. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Noah+Haders · · Score: 1

      Yeah but that's google's problem, not the submitter's problem

    8. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by ericloewe · · Score: 1

      And you just failed the Turing test. Admirable job, though, Mr. AI, now you just need to learn humor.

    9. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by gwgwgw · · Score: 2

      I partially get the "funny score 3", if you include the [...].
      My wife & I have had it with ink-jet printers when we print so little, so are experimenting with doing what your "Why...?" suggests.

      I successfully sent our xmas card list to Office Max which is open until 9pm and is about 1 mile away. Cost us under 2$ (since I walked over there !Exercise!).

      Last night my wife wanted to make gluten free oatmeal cookies from an internet recipe. We took the laptop to the kitchen, propped it on the counter. *I* was sure worried about getting it plastered with liquid and powders. My wife had to lean way over to get close enough to read the font. If we made that bigger, then she was scrolling up and down all the time... You get the picture. BUT... we did succeed (this time).

      There is the problem of printing our password list. Its hard to trust the data path to printing. We haven't printed it. I can get a dot-matix printer for $200 after all fees. Just to print "sensitive" stuff? (We keep a dup on 2 computers so it won't likely get lost)

      Well, also, maybe for emergency printouts? I dunno. So far we no emergencies, so no $200 gone ;^)

      We'll see if we can get through 2015 with this "no paper" through our (some adjective) action...(Trying to distance myself from the unwanted junk mail that DOES come to "Current resident". Ugh.

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    10. Re: Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My paper boarding pass never goes dead. And rarely breaks.

    11. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://www.fatwallet.com/forum...

      $30 from newegg. I did this MANY years ago with a Brother b/w printer for $50, still on the original starter cartridge and still prints flawlessly. My wife and I print maybe 2x a month (more in tax season etc). When my cartridge runs out, the wife wants a color laser - which can be had for under $100 on sale.

    12. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last night my wife wanted to make gluten free oatmeal cookies from an internet recipe. We took the laptop to the kitchen, propped it on the counter. *I* was sure worried about getting it plastered with liquid and powders. My wife had to lean way over to get close enough to read the font. If we made that bigger, then she was scrolling up and down all the time... You get the picture. BUT... we did succeed (this time).

      For the kitchen,I've found that pepperplate works fairly well. If you've got a tablet, or windows 8, the app works really well.

    13. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Let's examine the evidence here: Coeliac disease or idiocy? Well, when I cook things from internet recipes, I poke them into wetware memory real quick and go cook. Since the two of you combined couldn't manage a simple cookie recipe that way, I'm going to guess you're making gluten free cookies for no legitimate reason.

    14. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He doesn't see what's funny about riding an impractical bike and wearing Sherezade's pyjamas.

    15. Re: Overheard at the googleplex by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

      And you can mail it in when the airline's loyalty program fails to credit you the miles and write notes on the back of it as you're coming into your hub's gate and you're looking up your connection info.

    16. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Why, in 2015, would anyone want to print on paper at home?

      My wife likes to sew. There are a number of programs that let her print out pattern pieces, which she then lays out on the fabric for cutting.

      I have occasionally printed and framed some of my photos for gifts.

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    17. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm going to guess you're making gluten free cookies for no legitimate reason.

      If everyone had to file a report of the logical reasons behind what they ate before they did, the world would be a very different place.

      Also, proper baking is rather unforgiving of mis-measurement. Maybe you can expect someone to have a vague memory of a recipe, but not the specifics of 20 different ingredients, eh?

    18. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you have any idea how arrogant it is for you to tell other people how they should live their lives ?
      It isn't about being "right", it is about adults having the right to do what they like
      crawl into a hole and die

    19. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed. If people want to wear silly pants then that's their choice.

    20. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by gwgwgw · · Score: 1

      In the TLDR world I was pushing my luck, eh?

      My wife is going through cancer treatment, has 3 sets of glasses and neuropathy (and so a cane). She is also still testing the limits of how close she can come to her vision of herself before all this happened. She going to be OK. She is allergic to some enzyme in milk (goat milk, ok, cows' head stopped up, face swells. Takes about 2 hours to show. About 2 tablespoons will provoke the reaction). She, our son, her sister and one of her 2 sons have skin conditions (and other reactions) to wheat and we all assume its the gluten. I, on the other hand can eat anything.

      Does this provide better evidence?

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    21. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by csumpi · · Score: 1

      My spouse is a lawyer. Last year our two home printers totalled over 20,000 pages while working from home some evenings and weekends. Sometimes both printers are busy at the same time. We read books on kindles to save some trees.

    22. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by DUdsen · · Score: 1

      Welcome to the cloud where we trade a tiny bit of local complexity for a whole lot of network complexity managed by someone else.

      Like it or not the ChromeOS is based around the premise that internet access is always there and maintained by someone else.

    23. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why, in 2015, would anyone want to print on paper at home?

      [finishes moccochoccolatte with aloe vera, hops on fixie and rides off before ridiculous low-crotch trousers get wrapped around chain, causing fatal accident]

      To put into the fax machine of course.

    24. Re: Overheard at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You memorize every recipe you make? I'm impressed, especially because I make 3-4 recipes simultaneously on a regular basis.

      Quick: how much vanilla goes into tollhouse cookies? How many eggs to a loaf of french bread?

    25. Re: Overheard at the googleplex by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      The second one is easy - it's none.

      If you put eggs in, it's a cake, FFS.

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    26. Re:Overheard at the googleplex by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      do you have any idea how arrogant it is for you to tell other people how they should live their lives ?

      This is Slashdot, and that mentality is common here. It shouldn't surprise you.

  4. Brother HL-4040 Printers by jfdavis668 · · Score: 3, Informative

    Print PDF from USB drives. Not sure what the latest model is, that model is a few years old.

    1. Re:Brother HL-4040 Printers by kbonin · · Score: 1

      Also Brother MFC-8480DN, prints PDF fine from USB drives that originate from many different programs. Only print I ever had fail used Adobe DRM to protect one of the layers, had to print that from Windows, because the bits needed to remain secret before being reproduced on a piece of paper. (sigh)

    2. Re:Brother HL-4040 Printers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Print PDF from USB drives.

      We called this "sneaker net" in the old days. Only we used floppies - uphill in the snow - both ways - and we LIKED IT!

    3. Re:Brother HL-4040 Printers by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      I bought a Dell 1355 a few years ago. It has a network port and USB and can print PDFs from FTP and SMB network shares and from FAT-formatted USB drives.

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  5. Router with USB port and print server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Connect to the router's wireless network to print. The router itself doesn't even need to have an Internet connection.

    1. Re:Router with USB port and print server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice try, but they said Chromebook. It can't print USB. It can only print to Google Cloud Print. So you either put the printer on the internet or you don't use a Chromebook.

    2. Re: Router with USB port and print server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is suck a no brainer.
      Get a real computer, use any printer you want how you want.

      Get chrome book and regret the hassle of dealing with a crippled computer.

    3. Re:Router with USB port and print server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The chromebook won't see a USB printer, it'll see a networked printer. I was going on the assumption that you could print to networked printers with the chromebook, or somehow add it to cloud print.

  6. Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    1-I wouldn't have bought a Chromebook to begin with, instead, a Notebook running either Winbugs or Linux will be sufficent.
    2-If you have a Raspberry PI and a wifi dongle and a powered USB hub to spare, you may can a 3G-WiFi AP

    1. Re:Hi by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      I would go with option #1. Windows laptops are cheap, and work with most printers; he'll be able to print pretty much anything without fussing with flash drives or usb keys or converting file formats.

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    2. Re:Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IMHE Linux and Mac machines work easily with all printers thanks to the CUPS system maintained by Apple.

      So, install Crouton with CUPS and Bob's your uncle.

    3. Re:Hi by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I've had good luck with HP on linux but canon printers require a lot of work to get right. Even then my canon i960 takes about 10 times as long to print a page from linux as it does my Mac. I'll never buy another canon printer.

    4. Re:Hi by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      linux+color samsung laser printer == fail.

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    5. Re:Hi by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      you pi fanbois need to quit raising that hobbyist toy as a viable solution to people of the normal real world's needs. The processor performance is like a Pentium 2 at 250MHz, it only supports some hundreds of meg of ram, and the graphics performance is abysmal being like systems of 12 years ago. $80 can buy a multi-core system that will have tens of times the power of a raspberry

    6. Re:Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly - this is the kind of situation where the Google Ecosystem is needlessly compromised, and it utterly fails to address a simple problem. Apple does similar things in different areas, but Windows tablets do not have this problem.

      So if you want to go with Google, get your network online. With a 3G router if necessary, although broadband would obviously be preferable.

      Or consider a Windows tablet. Yes, the combination of Metro and desktop can be confusing, but at least you can set up any printer as you need.

    7. Re:Hi by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      Huh, tell me more... I have the ~$100 Samsung ML-2851D B&W laser printer, and it works great under Linux, full duplexing and all. It's even easier to install the printer drivers in Linux than in Windows / MacOSX.

      Wife would like to upgrade it to a color laser someday... I realize some of the Samsung multifunction printers will be a PITA with Linux, but there's gotta be a color version of this thing somewhere...

    8. Re:Hi by rwa2 · · Score: 1

      you pi fanbois need to quit raising that hobbyist toy as a viable solution to people of the normal real world's needs. The processor performance is like a Pentium 2 at 250MHz, it only supports some hundreds of meg of ram, and the graphics performance is abysmal being like systems of 12 years ago. $80 can buy a multi-core system that will have tens of times the power of a raspberry

      I agree... the Pi might be great for embedded applications, but too many people want to stick a keyboard/mouse/monitor on them and use them like a computer, and then whine about the challenges of ARM. Just get an netbook or even a low-end phone/tablet if you want a touchscreen! They'll even be cheaper than the Pi when you figure in the cost of cables, power supplies, peripherals... a case, a half-decent SD card... the Pi really comes with nothing.

      And even for embedded applications, you'd probably first want to ask yourself if you can get away with using Arduinos instead.

    9. Re: Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      BarbaraHudson talks out his ass about most things. Take what ut says with a grain of salt. It is more often wrong than right.

    10. Re:Hi by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

      The biggest issue with Windows would be using up the monthly caps for the 3G connection simply with Windows Update and antivirus updates.

    11. Re: Hi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Any solution which involves converting someone to Linux, custom hardware, and custom configured software is a non-starter. It takes all day and makes you responsible for everything they want to do on the computer for the rest of time (like buying an iPod, or a fitbit, or wanting some new game program from the senior center).

  7. My phone isn't this crippled by PenguSven · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about just getting him a fucking computer that doesn't rely on internet access and the services of a company with a penchant for maliciously storing data about people, to send a document to a printer next to him?

    Even an iOS device can print without an internet connection, if your printer supports AirPrint, so why would you accept such a crippled device?

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    1. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by shakezula · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I agree here, the cost of the Chromebook's savings will be negated by the "custom solutions" required to get it to do routine mundane tasks. Get him either a cheap Windows 8 device (HP has a couple in the CB's price range) or if the walled-garden/appstore is more his thing, an iDevice(TM).

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    2. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Mr+D+from+63 · · Score: 1

      The only reasonable 3G option would probably be a 3G hotspot, then you could have wireless connectivity as you please.

    3. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to give an example:

      http://www.microcenter.com/product/438199/X551MAV-EB01-B_156_Laptop_Computer_-_Black

      In store only, but fortunately I'm lucky enough to live near this place. I bought a quad-core laptop for even less just a few weeks ago (but not an ASUS to be honest).

    4. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wifi is CHEAP. It's one option to get to the endpoint the submitter wants. This whole "fuck your solution in the face" mentality around here sucks.

    5. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > How about just getting him a fucking computer that doesn't rely on internet access and the services of a company with a penchant for maliciously storing data about people, to send a document to a printer next to him?

      He mentioned that in the summary. You're attitude is not appreciated, nor has your particular post made a point.

    6. Re: My phone isn't this crippled by PenguSven · · Score: 1

      Geesh.. give the guy a break. He does't have wifi at home, so there is no infrastructure for this and my guess is they'd rather not have to by the most expensive printer for someone who doesn't print very often.

      Some AirPrint compatible devices support ad-hoc mode, and even if they don't its hardly expensive to setup compared to data costs for uploading and downloading every document you want to print over 3G/4G

      BTW, I read "penchant for maliciously storing data about people" and initially thought Apple.

      A company that makes huge profits by selling premium grade hardware items and provides a supporting ecosystem for those that want it, vs an advertising company that actively does all it can to track and identify your personal habits. Right, apple is the one to be worried about.

      My father-in-law has a AirPrint capable printer and has all sorts of problems. So obviously this isn't an easy solution.

      I once bought a car that was a lemon so I guess this idea of internal combustion automobiles is not an easy solution and should be ignored by all.

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    7. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree here, the cost of the Chromebook's savings will be negated by the "custom solutions" required to get it to do routine mundane tasks. Get him either a cheap Windows 8 device (HP has a couple in the CB's price range) or if the walled-garden/appstore is more his thing, an iDevice(TM).

      The point of a Chromebook isn't cost savings, it's that it's maintenance-free. There's no malware to worry about and nothing to mess up. The same is pretty true of an iPad or an Android tablet, but presumably he wants a laptop form factor.

      My mom wanted to get something and I encouraged her to get either a Chromebook or a tablet, but my dad insisted that those were crap and she should get a real computer, and he found a deeply-discounted laptop with Windows 8.1 on it, which was cheaper than most Chromebooks.

      And two days later I was over at her house, cleaning off malware, installing AV, trying to fix configuration changes she'd accidentally made while trying to fix the problems she'd caused. I should have made my dad fix it, frankly. Windows is too much hassle. OS X isn't too bad, but Apple's premium prices are. Linux can be anywhere from impossible to ideal for a less-clueful user, but it may require some knowledge to set it up, and the notion is intimidating to many. ChromeOS is... safe, reliable and easy.

      Except it can't print except via the cloud. That, incidentally, was the argument my dad used to insist on Windows for her. Google needs to add CUPS to ChromeOS, IMO. It's pretty much plug and play with most printers.

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    8. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by _merlin · · Score: 1

      How the hell do people actually get infected with malware all the time? The only malware I've been hit with was the nVir virus on a Mac in the early '90s, and the Welchia worm on Windows in the early '00s. How do people get infected all the time? I don't do anything special or magical, but I still don't get problems with malware.

    9. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      From what I'm told, malvertizements are the most common vector these days.

    10. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The HP Deskjet 3520 e-All-in-One Printer configured as a WiFi AP can be accessed by connecting the Google Chromebook to the printer's AP network and then saving the document as PDF before printing. Personally, I keep all my PDF files on a microSD card in my smartphone and use an application on the smartphone to print wirelessly (WiFi) to my HP Deskjet 3520.

    11. Re: My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually he had made a succinct argument for buying a computer rather than a Chromebook, and many people here agree with him. Go fuck yourself.

    12. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by LWATCDR · · Score: 1

      " Linux can be anywhere from impossible to ideal for a less-clueful user, but it may require some knowledge to set it up, and the notion is intimidating to many. ChromeOS is... safe, reliable and easy."
      ChomeOS is Linux...
      Actually Linux once setup can be very user friendly. Installing Windows can be just as big of a pain as Linux.
      I really like the idea of ChromeOS. It is the right solution for the I want to use Facebook and email crowd.
       

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    13. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by swillden · · Score: 1

      " Linux can be anywhere from impossible to ideal for a less-clueful user, but it may require some knowledge to set it up, and the notion is intimidating to many. ChromeOS is... safe, reliable and easy." ChomeOS is Linux...

      Obviously. Though it's configured with a rather different userspace than most Linuxen.

      It's at the ideal end of the spectrum... because someone knowledgeable set it up to be that way.

      Actually Linux once setup can be very user friendly. Installing Windows can be just as big of a pain as Linux.

      Normal users don't install Windows. They do have to manage the steaming pile of crap, though, or find someone else who will.

      I really like the idea of ChromeOS. It is the right solution for the I want to use Facebook and email crowd.

      Exactly.

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    14. Re:My phone isn't this crippled by swillden · · Score: 1

      In my mom's case, she installed a Solitaire game she found one the web somewhere.

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  8. Overheard at the googleplex by dukeblue219 · · Score: 0

    Really?

    Photographs. Shopping lists. Airplane boarding passes. Printable coupons. Signed documents that need to be mailed in. Hard copies of your tax return. Instructions for a fix-it job that you need to take outside. A million other mundane things.

    They all or mostly CAN be done on your computer or phone, but many are better to have a paper copy. You know how freaking slow an airplane boarding process would be if everyone used their phone? Do you really get by without printing ever?

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  9. Get a computer . . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    with a REAL operating system. Otherwise this thing is about as useful as a tablet for getting anything done.

  10. Cloud Print printer + wifi hotspot ? by obarthelemy · · Score: 5, Informative

    The easiest way is probably to simply get a Cloud Print-ready printer, and a wifi router. Printer and Chromebook connect via wifi. No messing with card/sticks...
    https://www.google.com/cloudpr...

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    1. Re:Cloud Print printer + wifi hotspot ? by vidarlo · · Score: 1

      Except that Cloudprint sends the printjob to google, which then sends it to the printer. It means that both the printer and computer needs internet connectivity, not merely network connection.

    2. Re: Cloud Print printer + wifi hotspot ? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      He doesn't say that at all. He just can't interface his printer to Google without an intermediary device.

    3. Re: Cloud Print printer + wifi hotspot ? by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      He doesn't say that at all. He just can't interface his printer to Google without an intermediary device.

      Meh, disregard. His issue isn't with Google, but rather that he has no home internet connectivity to connect the printer up to.

  11. Page description languages are your friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think you need a printer with a hardware RIP and a PPD (postscript printer description) file, which is a "driver" in so much as it tells the OS / Spooler what the device is capable of, preferred formats, colour-space etc, with the device itself (hardware RIP) handling the actually "driving" nitty-gritty of getting dots on the page, similar to how most pen plotters will work with HPGL spat out over the parallel port. You'll be surprised at how common postscripty-printers are, especially larger SOHO lasers, although they probably aren't advertised as such.

    Most "creative" software will let you save as a PDF, if the rip doesn't natively support PDF (which it should) then PDF -> PS is trivial, get the Pi to spit it out over the printers preferred interface and Robert is your mothers brother*

    *Actual solution may be more complicated than suggested here, YMMV

  12. Price Point $249 - $399 LAPTOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bestbuy shows a number of functional laptops at the same price point as a Chromebook. ($249 - $399) Why fight to use a tool that doesn't meet your needs when, for the same price, you can have the right tool?

    Stupid, if you ask me.

    1. Re:Price Point $249 - $399 LAPTOP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What's the battery life on those laptops?

  13. You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Plug the pi into the printer and then put it on a wireless network. You can print offline that way.

    That said, I don't get the point of chromebooks. They're not any cheaper then the cheap laptops you can find these days. Go to newegg. Same price basically and you get a proper operating system.

    Chrome is a stupid OS. I don't know why they don't just install android on them. There are lots of printer apps for android.

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    1. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I actually took this route after I got bored of my raspberry pi. I got Windows, Debian, and Mac OS X printing through CUPS over the wi-fi, but none of the android devices. When I did this experiment, it seemed as though there was absolutely no print support in android, and the only thing that existed was Google's bolt-on proprietary "cloud print" service. There were a couple premium apps that purportedly would print PDFs and stuff via CUPS through wi-fi, but none of them really had any reputation or seemed like an ideal solution.

    2. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      lots of printer apps for android now... you go to your manufacturer and in most cases they have an app that is compatible with most of the printers from the company.

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    3. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by amiga3D · · Score: 2

      Well said. Chromebooks are crippled by design. With all the reduced functionality and privacy issues they should be giving them away, then it would cost what it's actually worth.

    4. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      Same price basically and you get a proper operating system.

      Your proper operating system most likely:
      1. Isn't easy to set up with full-disk encryption. Certainly it isn't set up by default.
      2. Isn't well-hardened against viruses.
      3. Doesn't support full code-signing to prevent undesired tampering.
      4. Doesn't sync ALL settings to the cloud so that you can just wipe it and restore it anytime you want to.
      5. Doesn't support full management via Google Apps for enterprise deployments.

      Or, if it does support most of those, then chances are you can't easily disable any of those features if you do want to modify the OS on it.

      ChromeOS on one level is a simple browser-only machine, but it also is very secure in a way that most casual PC users are simply never going to achieve on their own.

    5. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      With all the reduced functionality and privacy issues they should be giving them away, then it would cost what it's actually worth.

      Privacy issues? Sure, if you're not going to use Chrome at all then I could see where you're exposing your bookmarks/etc to Google (though you can disable this if you want to). However, in general you're far more secure with a Chromebook than you would be with a conventional laptop. When was the last time you knew somebody get hit by Cryptolocker or whatever using a Chromebook? Heck, even if they did encrypt all your files on a cloud service almost all of them keep historical snapshots so you can just restore the unencrypted versions.

    6. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't understand, how do you get the document onto the pi in the first place? Remember you are doing this offline!!

    7. Re: You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      wifi

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    8. Re: You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      the difference is one system is locked down and Google ultimately controls it. with any proper OS - I control it. chrome does whatever Google says it can do. I am not paying without control.

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    9. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It may be stupid to you, but it gives me back about 50 nights per year where I am not fixing some stupid error/infection/misconfiguration/update gone wrong on iOS, windows, or linux. I had to fix the problems for my wife and 3 of my kids using computers with those OS's at least one night every week (especially windows, windows was a nightmare). There was always something going wrong.

      I got four chromebooks and have had to spend, let me see...approximately... zero nights having to fix them. I did have to spend about an hour setting up the printer for cloud printing.

      I still keep one linux box around, but about the only time I use it is to use a CAD program for some technical drawings, or more frequently to install updates.(not hard, but I do have to periodically check the OK button).

      Chromebooks are easy. If what they do matches what you want to do, it doesn't get any easier. In reality, I would bet that most people don't do anything with their laptops (excluding employer driven Windows Only stuff) that a Chromebook wouldn't do better and easier.

    10. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      Don't give your family admin access. They're apparently messing with settings.

      Do you know how often I have to fix a problem on my windows laptop? Maybe once a month.

      So I lose 12 nights a year maybe. But that is misleading because I have many things I can do and gain all the time because the systems are more flexible.

      Take this poor fellow trying to print but he can't because of the stupid limitations of the chromebook.

      I can plug a printer with a USB OTG cable directly into my phone and print. And yet the chromebook can't. That is fucking stupid. That isn't my opinion that it is fucking stupid. It is fucking stupid and it is fucking inexcusable for a phone to be more flexible and powerful when managing desktop peripherals then this chromebook that costs what?... 150-250 dollars? Complete waste of money.

      A cheap android tablet will set you back 70 dollars. Add another 30 to 60 to buy a keyboard, mouse, OTG cable (currently $1.5 on amazon) and you're set.

      Even assuming you're giving the machine to people that can't help but mess it up on a regular basis, I would never get people a chromebook. I was much sooner give them an android tablet with either bluetooth peripherals or linked up through an OTG cable.

      There is more software for the android then there probably ever will be for the chrome book. The chrome book is a dead end. I don't get the point of it. It makes no sense on so many levels. An android laptop would give you all the pros with far fewer cons.

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    11. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Richy_T · · Score: 1

      Don't necessarily even need a Pi. If he has a smartphone, he could tether the chromebook to that, transfer the files and print from the smartphone.

    12. Re:You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Karmashock · · Score: 1

      My understanding is that he's setting this up for his dad that probably doesn't want to deal with all that. The wants this to execute quickly and easily.

      Really, I don't think this is terribly practical. Chromebook is badly set up for this sort of thing.

      I'd dump the chromebook and give him a cheap 2 in 1 laptop/tablet that has a more flexible OS on it.

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    13. Re: You can do it with your raspberry pi. by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      the difference is one system is locked down and Google ultimately controls it. with any proper OS - I control it. chrome does whatever Google says it can do. I am not paying without control.

      Chromebooks aren't locked down unless you want them to be. Every one has a switch which disables secure boot and you can flash whatever you want on it, including ChromiumOS. Flipping the switch does wipe the device for security, which is the approach Google takes with Android as well.

  14. Brother HL-2270DW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great value for the money. I have one that has been flawless over the last year printing about 6,000 sheets on it. The toner is cheaper than most too.

  15. any modern printer is a printing station by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i find it hard to not buy a printer for our office that doesn't have usb port and/or memory card slots. prices on inkjets start at less than the cost of an RPi

  16. How often? Chromebooks very good for specific ppl by raymorris · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How often does he print, and how often does he need to print? I make the distinction because many people who grew up with paper use "print" as "save". They print it so they'll have it in case they need it later. Some of these people can take to saving documents rather than printing everything and it might be good and useful as a training aid if printing were slightly less convenient. Other people actually need to print quite often, and some people print maybe twice per year. If dad prints twice per year, the Kinko's service that prints to the FedEx Kinko's around the corner might be good.

    Some uber-nerds, or wannabe uber nerds, shout "get a real computer!". Well my wife has had several "real" computers, running various operating systems. Her favorite device, the one she uses all day every day, is her Chrome book. I see why. She can leave it laying around and whenever she picks it up it's instantly ready to do what she needs to do. She charges it maybe a couple of times per week. It has been completely reliable and simple - she never needs to ask her computer geek husband for help. It is IDEAL for certain people.

    I say this as a guy who has personally owned a $10,000 network switch and whose name is in the kernel changelog - I know real computers. I have systems with sixteen hard drives each. Those monsters are well suited to their task, and the Chromebook is well suited to its task.

  17. Old computer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just leave his old (aka current) computer and printer hooked up and let him print from them. No new equipment required.

  18. Solution: USB Router by DaTrueDave · · Score: 2

    Get a USB pocket router (the size of a pack of Wrigley's gum), which will let him turn his 3G connection into a hotspot whenever he plugs it in.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ...

    1. Re:Solution: USB Router by tepples · · Score: 1

      And watch print jobs use 23 MB of valuable data quota: 10 MB to send it to the Butt and 10 MB to get it back, plus 15% for framing overhead.

    2. Re:Solution: USB Router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would second the USB router option, but advise against running a stock firmware. Not good enough printer support. Go with OpenWRT and get the CUPS package.

      However, there will NEED to be some kind of spooling device as well.

      So, the setup is more:

      USB Router supported by OpenWRT
      Powered USB Hub
      USB Disk (Of some sort)
      USB capable Printer (Or LPT to USB cable. This does indeed work.)

      CUPS can enable the printer over IPP. Boom. All good.

    3. Re:Solution: USB Router by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not if the "Online" printer is actually local over the local ethernet. CUPS does IPP support just fine. His ChronesBook should never send the data outside the local subnet.

      The real problem will be memory issues.

      Come to think of it, this is an ideal situation for a SheevaPlug.

    4. Re:Solution: USB Router by DaTrueDave · · Score: 1

      What?

      I've never had a Chromebook, but it has to send stuff to the cloud in order to print on a local network?

    5. Re:Solution: USB Router by swillden · · Score: 1

      What?

      I've never had a Chromebook, but it has to send stuff to the cloud in order to print on a local network?

      Google Cloud Print (which works on Android devices and on any Windows/OS X/Linux machine with a Chrome browser) sends your print jobs to Google, which routes them to the cloud-connected printer you select. It's actually quite convenient in a lot of ways. It means you don't have to configure the machine you're printing from for the printer you're printing to. It also means you don't have to be in the same physical location as the printer to print... which seems less than useful if you're trying to print a piece of paper because you need it, but can be very useful if you're trying to print a piece of paper that someone else, who is located near the printer, needs.

      ChromeOS doesn't include a native printing system (CUPS would be the obvious choice), and can only print via Cloud Print. IMO, ChromeOS should bundle CUPS with a reasonable set of printer configurations, for users who may not have a cloud-capable printer, or who may not have network connectivity, but the cloud solution actually works really well where it does work.

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  19. Dads want prints by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

    My dad also likes having a printer. I don't. They're high maintenance, and if that isn't bad enough, we all know the crap that ink jet manufacturers pull to drive our costs up even more.

    I tried to persuade him that he didn't need a printer, but got nowhere. He still writes checks and orders more checkbooks when he runs low, sometimes prints out emails, and other absurdities from not connecting with what technology can do. He keeps his contact list on a handwritten sheet of paper beside the monitor, rather than using some program to manage that info. It's one of the cases where he didn't even use the printer, he wrote that all down himself, with pen and pencil. I've tried to get him to use a spreadsheet or at least a text editor for that, but he's just more comfortable with pen and paper.

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    1. Re:Dads want prints by itzly · · Score: 1

      I have a inkjet printer and a B/W laser printer. Neither of them I would consider high maintenance.

    2. Re:Dads want prints by Isaac-1 · · Score: 1

      If you were to buy a good printer and not a $29 inkjet you would not have those issues, printers still have a place, and it is not just those paper centric shoppinglists, you never know when you may need to print a color coded luggage tag, or a print at home gift card, ....

    3. Re:Dads want prints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's one advantage of this you're missing: If the compute is simply a device processing input to output, and not used to store any important data, it means there's no dependency on it. If it dies it can be replaced by another one. It's a very sane way to use a computed if you don't trust the machine (which you shouldn't), and don't trust yourself to ensure proper back-ups.

    4. Re:Dads want prints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Paying for food is a monopolistic, selfish, and defective concept. It is "tyranny over the body of man"

    5. Re:Dads want prints by tepples · · Score: 1

      He still writes checks and orders more checkbooks when he runs low

      Probably because the fee to send birthday money as a check is less than as a prepaid MasterCard or Visa card.

      sometimes prints out emails

      Because that's the easiest way of sharing something in person with somebody who happens not to subscribe to smartphone service.

    6. Re:Dads want prints by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you ever noticed that people who absolutely must follow the latest technologies tend to vastly exaggerate the perceived defects of the previous technology?

      My last printer set my house on fire and just before that it killed half my family by paper cuts. Never again!

    7. Re:Dads want prints by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Because that's the easiest way of sharing something in person with somebody who happens not to subscribe to smartphone service.

      Bluetooth file transfer.

    8. Re:Dads want prints by tepples · · Score: 1

      That's fine if they're carrying a device that accepts Bluetooth file transfer. Or are you claiming that only a vanishingly small percentage of people don't carry such a device everywhere?

    9. Re:Dads want prints by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      I have a used, pre-Carly HP Laserjet. It's still running on the original toner cartridge. WiFi enabled with an AP in bridge mode so it can live in a dusty corner where it isn't in the way.

      This is a much better solution for the occasional hardcopy than maintaining an inkjet with consumables more expensive than gold.

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    10. Re:Dads want prints by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      They're high maintenance, and if that isn't bad enough, we all know the crap that ink jet manufacturers pull to drive our costs up even more.

      A laser printer is far less maintenance-intense. They do have their costs, but per-page they tend to be really low. A postscript-compatible printer will work on anything from a 30-year-old VAX to whatever OS you're running 20 years from now.

      I hardly print anything, but I do occasionally need to print. Heck, I'll be printing my tax forms in a few weeks, because it is far cheaper than paying some company to file for me because the US government won't just let you do it for free via a government-run website (let alone do what most experts advise and just send you a pre-calculated forms to sign and return, or do that online - it isn't like the IRS doesn't know what you should be filing before you do it).

    11. Re:Dads want prints by CronoCloud · · Score: 1

      Or are you claiming that only a vanishingly small percentage of people don't carry such a device everywhere

      Fewer and fewer every year. Some older phones and some "Feature" phones can do it. I personally had a Razr V3xx before I got my first Android phone, even it could do bluetooth file transfer.

  20. Re: How often? Chromebooks very good for specific by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The only problem is that the box and everything on it is Google's bitch.

  21. standard gnu.linux distro by lkcl · · Score: 2

    a standard gnu/linux distro like debian, when installed on that ARM11 device, can have CUPS installed on it with no difficulty: CUPS has absolutely nothing to do with ARM itself, especially if you get a proper printer that doesn't try anything stupid like ship proprietary drivers (.deb files) directly off their own web site. basically if you get an HP printer you'll be fine. i did get the absolute latest 3-in-1 printer from Curry's last month, and i did have to install hplip from source but that's because the printer required hplip 3.1.16 and the version of debian i had for a client only had 3.1.12 - however amazingly HP's ready-to-go compilation script walked through the process of installing the prerequisites and got it all done. kinda impressive.

    anyway so printing is not a problem. you are then going to *not* get him a chromebook, you're going to replace the OS (as someone else suggested) or you are going to sell the chromebook on ebay and get him a 200 quid Lenovo B30-50 from Tesco's or ebuyer.com or something similar (a big 15in 1366x768 LCD - awesome) - then you're going to install Debian GNU/Linux on that, too. setting up 3G dongles is really easy: remember to install the usbmodeswitch package. there is plenty of advice out there on setting up 3G dongles - remember to look up and set the correct APN settings in wvdial.conf (or whatever you end up using)

    then, to make sure that he can print remotely, you're going to install a VPN on both devices (i recommend openvpn however tinc would do just as well and is slightly easier to set up) - both the ARM11 print server and the laptop, and you're going to either use the server that you're already maintaining, or you're going to ask a friend if you can put a VPN on their server, *or* you're going to get *another* of those ARM11 devices and send it to these guys:

    http://raspberrycolocation.com...

    basically for $EUR 36 per year they will host you an ARM11 device on a 100mbit/sec link. the power requirements and size are so small that it's perfectly feasible.

    so that's what you're going to do... or not. it's a lot of work to set up, but if those are the requirements (remote printing access) then that's what needs to be done. it's going to be costly, however, as both the ARM11 device and the portable device will *both* need 3G connectivity.

    honestly i can thoroughly recommend going a different route, as follows:

    * go to a local three networks store and buy a Huawei MIFI (3G+WIFI gateway) device
    * go to Maplin's and get a "mobile" 2-port WIFI router. i looked one up that could be re-flashed with OpenWRT.
    * once the firmware is re-flashed on the "mobile" 2-port WIFI router, change it to be a *CLIENT* of the Huawei MIFI device.
    * also set up the WIFI router to "bridge" mode (between the WIFI and the 2 ports: make them all on the same LAN space)
    * plug the ARM11 device into one of the 2 LAN ports.
    * associate the laptop with the MIFI's WIFI network as well

    now you have the ARM11 device set up as a printer on the same (bridged) LAN as the WIFI devices, including the MIFI and the laptop. if you have installed OpenWRT as i suggest then you can also install the OpenWRT openvpn package on it (or tinc), and you then have 24x7 access to the systems on the network, and can manage them remotely *including* logging in to the ARM11 device and clearing out any stuck print jobs without needing to drive N+ miles.

    this is what i have set up for a client (in one form or another). with this above 2nd scenario you are _still_ not going to get a chromebook, you're going to get a laptop with debian installed that you can actually manage (including remotely). the difference is that it'll be easier for your father because it will be internal WIFI, not a dangling external USB 3G modem. wicd-client is much easier to comprehend, i find, than the 3G management programs for GNU/Linux. err, there's WIFI networks and errr, there's a place where you press "connect" and errr that

    1. Re:standard gnu.linux distro by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      If that's your idea of a simple solution, you're doing it wrong.

      1. He hasn't bought a Chromebook yet, so he can, for the same price, buy a "real laptop". Problem solved.
      2. Who says the submitter is living in Europe? Your solution fails then.
      3. Linux does NOT have all the printer drivers, and some of the ones that DO exist don't let you access all the features. Under linux, I can't scan, can't do color printing - I had to save on usb. The b/w laser would only print at the lowest resolution. Waste of toner. It may be the same problem when he eventually changes printers. Easier to just get a laptop and keep the OS it came with.
      4. He won't have to deal with "why can't I run this program?"

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    2. Re:standard gnu.linux distro by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A Linux nerd's idea of "easy". 'Nuff said.

      The ultimate client wanted a Chromebook. You are misreading the situation.

  22. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So what you are saying is the user is doing something wrong?

  23. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I say this as a guy who has personally owned a $10,000 network switch and whose name is in the kernel changelog - I know real computers. I have systems with sixteen hard drives each.

    So what, I have systems with over 9000 hard drives!

  24. Printer part: PostScript by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a printer that does PostScript. Modern ones will also print PDF directly. Since PDF is essentially a dumbed-down PostScript* transforming PDF to something that will print on a PostScript printer is relatively trivial. That way you don't need "drivers"** beyond the generic "I'm a printer" USB profile, which is typically supported fine wherever the OS supports USB at all. Just about anything you'd like the printer to do you can make it do through a suitable (generic) PostScript command.

    I have no idea what google cloud print needs the printer side to talk, but supposing you figure that part out, you could get a "3G" stick and hook the 'Pi to the 'net with it. Otherwise, well, an automounter for USB and a little scripting, or maybe a wireless stick, hostapd, and samba or nfs or webdav or other vehicle to drop PDF files on the "print this please" directory and another bit of scripting to pick up the files and shunt them to the printer.

    But really, your first step to solid printing is getting a printer that does PostScript. They've become much cheaper over the years, and endure.

    * Loops removed, compression added. I'm deliberately discounting the forms, javascript and other crap added back in later, more or less reinventing the things they took out of PostScript to make PDF in the first place, requiring massive bloat for the full support. Compared to plain full PostScript, that is.
    ** Though even GhostScript and whichever other filters you'd care to use should run fine on the Raspberry Pi. CUPS, should you be able to get it to work, wraps up lots of filtering and other stuff. Personally, I like a PostScript printer and a plain old lpd queue for their robust simplicity.

  25. Canon MX870 by Sandman1971 · · Score: 1

    If you really must go the route of keeping the Chromebook, I would suggest the Canon MX 3/4 in one printers. I myself have an MX870 model (printer/fax/copier/scanner), it's WIFI, and it has a USB port, an SD port, a compact flash port and an MS Duo port. From a USB stick I've printed PDFs, DOCs, text files, jpegs without a problem. I've also printed jpegs right off an SD card. It also works in the other direction; I've scanned some docs/images and saved them directly onto a USB stick.

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    1. Re:Canon MX870 by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      It is a bit of a step backward when you have to transfer data to a printer using the modern equivalent of a floppy disk. It should only be a convenience feature, not the normal mode of use.

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    2. Re:Canon MX870 by Sandman1971 · · Score: 1

      Oh I agree 100% with you. The OP asked if something like this existed and I was just pointing out that it did.

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  26. My phone isn't this crippled by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Geesh.. give the guy a break. He does't have wifi at home, so there is no infrastructure for this and my guess is they'd rather not have to by the most expensive printer for someone who doesn't print very often.

    BTW, I read "penchant for maliciously storing data about people" and initially thought Apple. My father-in-law has a AirPrint capable printer and has all sorts of problems. So obviously this isn't an easy solution.

    Don't be a dick.

  27. Brother, get a Brother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a Brother all-in-one network printer. All their higher-end models support every protocol in the universe including goofy stuff (for a standalone printer) like telnet, FTP, HTTP and SMTP. They also come with WiFi, Ethernet and USB interfaces. I wouldn't be surprised if they can be configured as a WAP.

  28. Don't get a USB printer, get a networked printer by m.dillon · · Score: 1

    Get a printer that runs over WIFI. For example, the Canon MX922. Then it doesn't matter where the computer OR the printer is in the house... it can just be any of the computers in the house. There might be better compatibility with linux drivers with an HP printer though (if running linux). MACs need the appropriate driver. Windows just has it typically.

    I've had nothing but trouble connecting USB printers to any open-source OS. It just isn't reliable. I wound up using my windows game box as the print server but the nice thing about a WIFI printer is that any computer in the house can talk to it directly as long as it understands what kind of printer it is and has the appropriate driver.

    -Matt

  29. It's getting old Google...Stop already... by yodleboy · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This insistence that everything is in the 'cloud' is getting really old, particularly with Android. There are occasions dear Google when someone is offline. I don't want to have to store my Earth KML files on Drive to view on mobile Earth app. I don't want to have to connect my android phone via USB to copy or move things around on my SD card. I don't want to have to print over the internet. Whatever networked fantasy land you live in at GoogleHQ, is not reality. If I wanted to be restricted to what I could do with my devices "for my own good", I'd go back to the iPhone. You are rapidly chipping away at my reasons for switching to Android.

    1. Re:It's getting old Google...Stop already... by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So install Cyanogenmod and take some of that stuff back. It's a lot nicer than the vendor-supplied bullshit that comes with your phone by default. I had to install it last time around so I could make full use of my SD card again.

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    2. Re:It's getting old Google...Stop already... by yodleboy · · Score: 1

      Yeah i had AOKP on my last phone. Sadly, I needed to install a remote access app from my employer on my new one and it won't run on a rooted phone.

    3. Re:It's getting old Google...Stop already... by Greyfox · · Score: 1

      Seems like your employer should issue you a phone for it, then.

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    4. Re:It's getting old Google...Stop already... by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      There are occasions dear Google when someone is offline. I don't want to have to store my Earth KML files on Drive to view on mobile Earth app.

      What? You want to use an online service when you're offline? What next you want to browse the internet?

      I don't want to have to connect my android phone via USB to copy or move things around on my SD card.

      Install a file manager. There's about 100 of them in the app store.

      I don't want to have to print over the internet.

      I'm trying to figure out what you're printing from your phone where you are using a printer that doesn't have access to either a computer, or the ability to simply print autonomously. Personally the only time I've printed from my phone I used my file manager to pop the file on the SD card and then stuck that into the printer and printed it there.

      Whatever networked fantasy land you live in at GoogleHQ, is not reality.

      I'm not sure they are the ones in a fantasy land. All your problems have fairly easy solutions.

      If I wanted to be restricted to what I could do with my devices "for my own good", I'd go back to the iPhone. You are rapidly chipping away at my reasons for switching to Android.

      No one is restricting you. But I too bought a car the other day that doesn't drive under water and feel totally ripped off at my lost freedoms. I totally understand where you're coming from.

  30. Meet the neighbors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1- Buy a Google Cloud Print compatible printer
    2- Gift it to the friendly folks next door with Wifi
    3- There is no #3

    Otherwise, print PDFs via USB flash from the Pi. Plenty of ways to make it work. I'd suggest a script that prints the file with the most recent creation date as soon as it's mounted. CUPS supports just about every decent printer out there.

  31. Hewlett Packard by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I believe a lot of HP printers will print a PDF (as well as JPG) directly from a USB stick. I've also had very good luck with their GNU/Linux compatibility.

  32. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If dad prints twice per year, the Kinko's service that prints to the FedEx Kinko's around the corner might be good.

    Kind of a lame solution if all you want to do it print a damn boarding pass, or a simple mail in form. It'll work, but it's a major inconvenience to go to a kinkos just to print a small, but critical document, especially when you already own a printer.

    I actually own a chromebook, and I love it. But it's not my only computer, and when I want to print something I have to use "a real computer". I can't really recommend it to many people as their sole computer. Most people don't print a lot these days, but we've all grown so accustomed to having home printers, driving or taking a bus to a Kinkos is a freaking hassle.

    IMO Google needs to fix the print problem. Being able to print a document is an expectation of computers, and the "solution" they have is a crappy one.

  33. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have... seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those... moments... will be lost in time, like [small cough] files... in... magnetic storage... Time... to print...

  34. Shipping and handling by tepples · · Score: 1

    It's the submitter's problem when, in the analogy, you have to pay "postage" both ways to your cell carrier.

  35. Re: How often? Chromebooks very good for specific by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Should have paid for a decent switch.

  36. Huh? by methano · · Score: 4, Funny

    I thought the only time one would consider a ChromeBook is when you expect to have easy internet access at all time and not some crappy 3G connection.

    My dad is thinking of getting a car but he lives in the ocean. Is there some way for him to get to the grocery store? I have an Arduino and and a Raspberry pi.

    Poseidon

    1. Re:Huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you can probably configure the Raspberry to send a job to a 3D printer to make a submersible shell for the car...
      However, most low end 3D printers use materials that are only rated to 50 meters, so if your dad lives in deep water, you might need one of these:
      http://www.3dsystems.com/3d-printers/production/proxtm-400

  37. boxes of punch cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And after dropping the box, I learned to draw a diagonal line across the tops.
    Long printouts meant lots of exercise carrying those boxes

  38. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by iggymanz · · Score: 0

    hahaha, you think buying a lot of hard drives for your wintel crap pile at home means you know about "real computers", or that you made change to the steaming pile of GNU that mostly panders to that architecture?

    I doubt you've ever touched a "real computer"

  39. TL;dr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) skip chrome book
    2) buy laptop
    3) use printer of choice.

    Compare and contrast with the simple plan parent proposes.

    The difference is the chrome book, if it isn't purchased, then why start with that pos?

  40. Xerox 9700 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'll be up front and say that almost any new printer will print a PDF from an SD or USB flash drive. The experience isn't as smooth as printing to a networked printer, but it works and is rather simple to do, so I wouldn't bother trying to set up something elaborate unless you have the time to hack it together and are willing to support it.

    If you are interested in hacking something together, keep in mind that the user shouldn't have to do anything special. Cloudprint expects a networked printer. You could put the Chromebook in developer mode and try to pipe bits over USB, but that's ruining the stock experience for the user and a nightmare to support.

    Installing crouton is easy, but be warned that you'll shoot yourself in the foot if you go down that path as you'll have two OSs and a janky script to support. Expect a phone call on the next ChromeOS update if you do.

    ChromeOS expects everything to have a network connection, so Cloudprint is out of the picture unless your willing to get him setup with a 3G hotspot. You could set up a cron job on a Raspberry Pi running cups http://www.howtogeek.com/169679/how-to-add-a-printer-to-your-raspberry-pi-or-other-linux-computer/ but that requires you to support a UI, http server, multiple scripts and libraries, hardware, and OS, which are all points of failure. Since most printers already have a little embedded system with a touch screen UI, why recreate it?

    Yes, this is ridiculous. Choose your path wisely. You probably wouldn't be reading this is it weren't for a certain nerd with printer issues.

  41. best solution? simple... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spend $250 for a cheap, real, laptop, instead of $200 on a crappy Chromebook.

  42. Consider a cheap adapter by VernonNemitz · · Score: 1

    Here's an article about a USB-to-Ethernet adapter. Then maybe all you need is a printer with an Ethernet port.

  43. Re:Don't get a USB printer, get a networked printe by JustNiz · · Score: 1

    >> I've had nothing but trouble connecting USB printers to any open-source OS

    Pretty much all the printers I've owned (more by chance than direct choice) have been HP.
    My current printer, a 10 year old HP PSC-950 (printer/scanner/fax) works better under linux than it ever did under windows and was easier to set up under Linux than windows. I have no experience with other brands but it seems the HP linux drivers make HP printers simply plug and play.

  44. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by swillden · · Score: 1

    IMO Google needs to fix the print problem. Being able to print a document is an expectation of computers, and the "solution" they have is a crappy one.

    I agree that Chromebooks need to be able to print to a USB-connected printer, but I disagree that Cloud Print is crappy. It's non-functional where you don't have net connectivity, but everywhere else, it's awesome. In my experience it's so much more reliable than ordinary Wifi printer connections, and even some USB printer connections that I always use Cloud Print first, if it's available. haven't even bothered to configure my laptop with drivers for my home printer. That approach is fiddly, while the cloud solution works every time with no setup. And it works from my phone, my tablet, etc.

    In addition, it is occasionally *very* convenient to be able to print to a printer somewhere else. There have been several times when I've been traveling that I've printed something for my wife, on our home printer. Yes, I could send her the doc and she could print it, but only if she has the relevant application... it's so much easier just to text her to say "The document you need to sign and run up to the county office is printing in the kitchen right now".

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  45. My father is considering a Chromebook, by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

    >My father is considering a Chromebook,

    You have found out why a Chromebook doesn't work for him.
    Buy him a real computer you cheapskate.

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    1. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      >My father is considering a Chromebook,

      You have found out why a Chromebook doesn't work for him.
      Buy him a real computer you cheapskate.

      Option 1: Buy a real computer.
      Visit once every few weeks to remove spyware, deal with cryptolocker, install service packs, etc. Buy a backup solution or deal with the results of a hard drive crash. If the house burns down you most likely lose all your backups too. If the laptop gets lost then deal with identity theft.

      Option 2: Be a cheapskate and buy a Chromebook.
      Have your dad mention at holidays how well his computer is working for him. If it is damaged/destroyed/lost, just buy a new one and sign in and all the settings re-sync. The lost one has full-disk encryption by default.

      Properly managing a client PC isn't trivial - we take lots of stuff for granted. If you don't properly manage one, then you're inviting random disaster.

    2. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ok, your theory is good
      Question: you have surveyed 1,000 (ordinary, ie can't remove spyware) people who have used chromebooks for >1 year
      Their experience is...
      oh, no data ? or data onlyfor people like you and me that can handle stuff ?

    3. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      I find macbooks work better for my non technical family members.

      I tried giving them Chromebooks once and there were all sorts of compatibility problems with printers, my daughter's school website and media sources. Windows PCs were a pain to manage and keep secure. Macbooks have better security properties and take less of my time.

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    4. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      I find macbooks work better for my non technical family members.

      I tried giving them Chromebooks once and there were all sorts of compatibility problems with printers, my daughter's school website and media sources. Windows PCs were a pain to manage and keep secure. Macbooks have better security properties and take less of my time.

      I can't imagine that any website would work on Chrome on OSX that wouldn't work on Chrome on ChromeOS. Of course, browser compatibility issues are nothing new, and you are limited to Chrome on ChromeOS. ChromeOS doesn't have any "compatibility problems" with printers per se - it just can only print via CloudPrint, which means either your printer supports it, or it is hooked up to something else which does (like a PC running the Chrome browser or a print server). The printing issue is the biggest pain with using ChromeOS so if you're going to go that route you do need to plan for it. Media sources that require some kind of plugin definitely are not going to work, though flash usually does (but not always) - many major services have Chrome apps which should work.

      You definitely have to adapt what you do to the Chromebook, and not the other way around. You're going to have to ditch stuff like Libreoffice and so on.

      All the same, I'd give them serious thought. The only laptop I could imagine buying right now is a Chromebook. I do use both Windows and a somewhat-more-traditional Linux distro on the desktop, but I'm not a typical facebook user either.

    5. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      >I can't imagine that any website would work on Chrome on OSX that wouldn't work on Chrome on ChromeOS.

      In our case, the web software my daughter's school used would refuse to upload a file (homework) from a google drive, but would do fine off the local drive, which isn't an option on the chromebook.

      After going around the issue a couple of times, I gave up, headed to the Apple store and things have been fine since.

      I know other school software works with chrome fine, but this was not that software.

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    6. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      >I can't imagine that any website would work on Chrome on OSX that wouldn't work on Chrome on ChromeOS.

      In our case, the web software my daughter's school used would refuse to upload a file (homework) from a google drive, but would do fine off the local drive, which isn't an option on the chromebook.

      All chromebooks have local storage. It is used primarily for these sorts of situations.

    7. Re:My father is considering a Chromebook, by TechyImmigrant · · Score: 1

      It's well hidden on the Chromebook we used.

      The issue is not so much that it can't work, than how much effort I have to go through to make it work for other people, Smooth sailing it was not.

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  46. Two options by modmans2ndcoming · · Score: 1

    1) get a cloud print capable printer
    2) set up a standard windows/Linux machine to run the cloud print service and publish a standard printer to that service....then you just share the printer to him (this is what I did)

    1. Re:Two options by Chrontius · · Score: 1

      You may have missed the part about how he has no internet connection save for the Chromebook's integral LTE modem.

      If not for that little hiccup, your solution would be quite adequate. If you do that this way, you run the risk of having to courier all of your father's print jobs to him. :p

  47. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hey, asshat, stop ragging on the other guy. I've worked on some of the largest and fastest computers on the planet. (Multiple machines ranked between 30 and 80 on the TOP500 list.) I do most of my work on a Chromebook these days. Works great.

  48. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    *yawn* another "I worked on Linux boxes so I know stuffas" claim

  49. Re:Don't get a USB printer, get a networked printe by Blaskowicz · · Score: 1

    The end user in this case won't have a wifi network (there is just one computer with 3G modem), so in this case you need to buy and set up a wifi router or access point, as long with a wifi printer instead of just one printer and a cable, and remember to connect the computer to the wifi network when needing to print.
    I find it just a silly bit complex.

    A printer is likely to work under linux, at least Canon and HP (seen a Canon laser color just work, though not the built-in scanner : need to scan to a USB stick plugged into the scanner/printer multi-function box, or need to use VueScan as root - unless you can manage to fix the permissions - and then pay $30 to have it not add huge "watermarks" to the scanned page). Epson and Lexmark are evil : never buy anything from them. Maybe a Samsung printer works (I think I printed to one from linux once). Anyway : a printer that only prints would be nice.

  50. UnCloud it by SwabianEngineer · · Score: 1

    Remove the Goo from this Linux computer and then run it like a REAL Linux computer. It CAN do the printing without informing The Goo about the documents contents. Just look up how this is done. Or use the RPI and a USB multiplexer to connect the printer. The Goo has castrated this nice Linux machine. Return the balls !

  51. You're doing it wrong! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get a regular computer... shouldn't cost much more than the chromebook. Your solution shouldn't be this elaborate - unless you enjoy future headaches.

    Chromebooks are a novelty but can't be used for a lot of reasons - using devices is one of them (hence no one with a smart card will use one, etc.). Windows 8 netbooks and tablets are $300-500 nowadays.

    Then when something goes wrong and you're not around - you don't need a nerd with no life to fix it.

  52. Erm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. see if you can run an android app called jfCupsPrint (*) on CChromeOS
    2. if it works, use a printer with wifi or connect through your wi-fi router to a printer (**) connected to it via ethernet cable
    3. ...
    4. profit!

    (*) or similar app, that is the one I use to print from Android and it's simply great
    (**) your printer must have a CUPS server (accessible at http://[printer_ip]:631; if not, you must set up a linux cups server in an old PC (e.g.,I use an old netbook)

  53. WHY ? by SwabianEngineer · · Score: 1

    Once upon a time we could do nice text processing and spreadsheets using a 486 computer. Then the monopolists BLOATED it all up so that their friends of the CPU monopoly could sell more chips. NOW, the RPI lets us do the same job as with the 486 again. Both the soft and the hard monopolist hate this. We like it.

  54. Muhhahahaha by SwabianEngineer · · Score: 1

    How much do they pay in FtMeade for your work ? When printing perfectly works locally I need to route it to the Goo and back so that the gobbermint can inspect it ???

    1. Re:Muhhahahaha by Rich0 · · Score: 1

      When printing perfectly works locally I need to route it to the Goo and back so that the gobbermint can inspect it ???

      Printing doesn't work locally on virtually any computer without vendor-supplied drivers. I doubt Google does it they way they do so that the "gobbermint" can inspect it, but rather because as everybody who has tried it has discovered, nobody supports printing on anything other than Windows or maybe OSX.

      Besides, if the "gobbermint" really cares what is on your computer, they know already. I doubt they really care what OS you're running.

  55. you think Windows is Linux? Moron by raymorris · · Score: 1

    Wintel: Windows on Intel
    You think Linux "panders to wintel".

    More proof that aside from being 100% completely devoid of social skills, you also have zero technical knowledge. You're not a nerd, you're just a dweeb.

    1. Re:you think Windows is Linux? Moron by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      Wintel hardware is made to run Windows. Linux kernel spends 90% of its efforts chasing that architecture, badly.

      More proof you are technically ignorant.

  56. get a damn computer. by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 1

    You can get a used i3 Win7 box that would chew up the chromebook for breakfast for about $200. I bought a used i7 laptop for $560. Computers are cheap, and Chromebooks make no sense. You get a slow computer with a defective by design OS for $200+. You might as well get a real computer with a defective by design OS for $200+...

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    1. Re:get a damn computer. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Chromebooks are laptops too. Acer makes a nice Chromebook, and some models run an i3. You're just arguing about software. Slashdot modded up someone advertising Windows? God, how times have changed.

      (Nice thing about Linux on a Chromebook? No stupid windows key left over.)

  57. Connect via USB by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Connect the thing via USB and use the Cloud Print dialog to select your local printer.

  58. Bluetooth Printer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does the ChromeBook support Bluetooth or can you get a Bluetooth usb adapter? Bluetooth printing would appear to be the easiest option.

    1. Re:Bluetooth Printer by lamber45 · · Score: 1

      Bluetooth is not supported for printing on ChromeBook.

      There is an Android app that allows printing via "Wi-Fi or Bluetooth", but it appears not to have been ported to ChromeOS.

  59. Set up a drop spool directory by Retired+Spy · · Score: 1

    Had to do something similar a long time ago. It was a lot of work to set up, but it did work. It went like this: (1) Set up a server attached to a printer. You probably want to set up a firewall to limit who can connect. (2) Configure the web server to accept an HTTP POST or PUT. (FTP might also be an option.) You might want to create a simple web page to facilitate the upload. (3) When you drop a file into the spool directory, it gets scanned for file type. If it's postscript, it gets printed. If it's PDF it gets converted to postscript. If it's text it gets converted to postscript. If it's HTML it gets converted to postscript. There are utilities to perform the conversions on Linux. You just have to write the scripts to scan the spool directory for new files, detect file type, drive the converters, and of course print. (4) Teach your dad how to perform the PUT or POST to get the document to be printed into the spool directory. It took a bit of effort to get this working, but eventually it did work and it worked well. One gotcha we had to deal with was the short attention span of users. They simply wouldn't wait long enough for the process to run, and would frequently drop multiple copies of the same document into the spool directory. To cope with this we captured checksums of each file, and when it's a copy of the file in progress, we deleted it. If it's a file processed within the last minute, we deleted it. This allowed the user to process the same file more than once, but limited the rate to once per minute.

  60. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by cinnamon+colbert · · Score: 1

    Mel, I thought you were dead - or at least still using drum memory instead of that new fangled core stuff

  61. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, not "stuffas"... but you seem to have an issue with what counts as a "real computer", but don't seem to define what you mean by that. You seem to dislike GNU, and in this last post, Linux (so scratch the "BSD fan" assumption I had), and so by consequence, OS X, I would assume...and you already denigrated Wintel. So... I presume you are maintaining a one of a kind Lisp machine that is less powerful than this Chromebook?

    Troll, go home.

  62. Epson workforce printer - with mobile apps & w by sandGorgons · · Score: 2

    here's my suggestion: For extra convenience, I recommend the TP-Link WDR 3600 router : this router has 2 USB ports - one to take your 3G dongle and another to connect a USB drive or SD card reader to make these files available. I highly doing this before buying a printer. Note that the USB ports will also be able to drive a printer in case you dont want to spend on a wireless printer.
    My printer recommendation is the Epson WF-2540 printer. This is now connected to the router using a regular ethernet cable or the wifi.
    Your father can now print his stuff from the laptop or from his mobile phones (both android and iphone) on top of the wifi network.

  63. Don't buy a ChromeBook. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Problem solved. Get another thinnish laptop.

  64. use Android not ChromeOS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why don't you just install Android on top of the Chromebook to turn it into a real computer? Atleast it won't be a crippled internet-only machine, since Android works offline

  65. Re:Over your head at the googleplex by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My spouse is a lawyer.

    Being able to read is probably a prerequisite for that. Well, they say opposites attract...

  66. Legitimate advise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Don't let him have a chromebook. I'm serious. My mother just went through the same thing with her chromebook and I just installed Linux on it to fix it. You can still run Chrome in Linux so all the cloudyness stuff is there while simultaneously you can minimize Chrome and find an actual OS with printer drivers and local applications.

  67. So... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...everyone here is sugesting the same crap they sugested when someone tried to moved to Linux a couple of years ago: "You are doing it wrong, just buy Windoze and be happy".

    FIX the PROBLEM instead of telling people that they are doing it wrong, if you can't fix the problem You shouldn't be answering.

    Oh, btw. YES I am STILL runing Linux on the desktop and I am not going back to Windoze...

  68. GNU/Linux by gregthebunny · · Score: 1

    Better yet, skip the Chromebook altogether and get something like the Acer Aspire E11 and then install your favorite flavor of GNU/Linux. I bought one for $199 at MicroCenter, installed a 128 GB Crucial SSD ($79), 4 GB of Crucial DDR3L memory ($39), and an Intel Wireless-AC card ($19), and then installed Ubuntu 14.04. It cost under $350, everything worked right away in Ubuntu, and now I can do whatever I'd like with it.

  69. Cloud Print printer + wifi hotspot ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    T-mobile offers 200MB of data for free for tablets and other devices. Buy a router 3G/4G compatible router and a T-mobile SIM card. Then he can use a google cloud print capable printer with the router without actually needing to pay for a separate internet connection. Plus he can keep the chromebook with its own SIM card so he can get internet where ever he is.

    Most people would not be printing more than 200MB of documents a month anyway. Also he can print to his home printer while at a friends house or out and about.

  70. It's not possible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I had this issue as well. There is no solution. Chromebooks don't have printer drivers there is no way around it.

  71. Printer with ability to print from Web page? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Many HP laser printers have the ability to print PDF files directly via a web interface.
    You'd need to buy a wifi router and a printer that has at least ethernet to connect it to the router, but it shouldn't be that hard.
    Printer I just looked at was a HP 3005x (out of production model, but gives you an idea).

  72. Re:How often? Chromebooks very good for specific p by jabuzz · · Score: 1

    Why on earth would you want to be connected to a USB printer. Why on earth would anyone buy a USB printer? A laser (either colour or mono) with ethernet plugged into the router is almost always the correct solution to printing. Anyone claiming that lasers are rubbish for photos, that's true, but inkjet printing is rubbish full stop, and it works out cheaper and better just to send them to a photo printing service and have them printed on real photographic paper, while using a laser for everything else.

    Remember the two rules of printing. Rule one you brought an inkjet printer and you do so much printing that a laser would have been cheaper in the long run. Rule two, you brought an inkjet printer and you hardly print anything, but now spend a fortune in ink cleaning the heads every time you want to print something that it would have been cheaper to buy a laser in the long run.

    What a chromebook should be able to do is print to a Postscript or PCL printer on the local network. You can get a brand new network capable mono laser which supports PCL or PostScript for under 100GBP and a colour one for under 200GBP.