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Gunmen Kill 12, Wound 7 At French Magazine HQ
An anonymous reader writes: A pair of gunmen have stormed the office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12 people and wounding seven more. The magazine had recently published a cartoon of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and witnesses say the gunmen shouted, "we have avenged the Prophet Muhammad," before leaving. "Four of the magazine's well-known cartoonists, including its editor-in-chief Stephane Charbonnier were reported among those killed, as well as at least two police officers. Mr Charbonnier, 47, had received death threats in the past and was living under police protection." The attackers engaged police in a gunfire outside the building, then fled in a car. At the time of this writing, they are still at large. Currently, the BBC has the most information out of English news outlets. French speakers can consult the headline at Le Monde for more current news.
...or 72 clones of themselves.
1.) America protects the most nasty Mohammedanics - the Saudi Wahabists. They also did 9/11
2.) Here in Germany we have PEGIDA, who publicly protest the corrupt elite who do the appeasement.
3.) I hear UKIP and FN are actually also against the medivalist friends of America.
Here's a nice idea; print the cartoon billboard sized, and post em up around the city.. I'm sure plenty of people would be willing to crowdfund that sort of response.
Every magazine and newspaper in France should publish the offending cartoons on their front pages. Show these assholes that they wouldn't silenced with violence.
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
If just 1 percent of the 1.6 billion Muslims were gun-wielding terrorists, you get Sixteen Million gun-wielding terrorists.
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Bonus conversation: All religious people are, by definition, crazy.
should be executed in the streets while on their knees begging for their life.
That is what the Crusaders did every time they took a town/city. They executed people with their swords. Those who fought, the women, the children, the elderly.
Compare that to Saladin who showed mercy and the let the Crusaders go (for the most part).
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Marxism is a religion in a way - it requires faith (in humanity) to operate without corruption or brutality, since it requires folks to always live and work with society's greater good in mind. The very phrase "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" requires a lack of greed, sloth, or lust (for power) to operate. History has shown that it is just as prone to failure as most other human endeavors, including religion.
Capitalism on the other hand? It doesn't require any faith to work... in fact it specifically relies on the basest elements of humanity (namely, self-interest) to operate at all.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
When? Where? Who?
Are you thinking of the Crusades, or of the reconquest of Spain? Because those are both episodes of Christendom pushing back Muslim invaders.
You've only proven that religion can be co-opted to justify barbarism... yay? Now show me where Christianity itself justifies such acts (hint: it doesn't.)
The Q'uran on the other hand not only condones, but encourages such acts. Therein lies the difference.
Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
Allah is a false construct of a deluded desert rat named Mohammad. Before Mohammad had his "dream" to start Islam, the Arabs had a god for every day of the year. "Allah" was the moon god. He co-opted "allah" and turned it into what it is now. Welcome to Islam (Arabic for "submit") -- that wonderful religion of turn or burn.
Screw Islam, Allah, Mohammad and the ratty, flea-infested camel that he rode in on...
Before the Europeans caved in and allowed the Islamists in, the EU was largely a civil place to live. No longer.
"Well let's see... the IRA/English's battle over Northern Ireland (largely drawn across Catholic/Protestant religious lines) cease fire was just over 20 years ago. And the final peace accord was only 17 years ago. That marked the end of 30 years of assassinations, murders, bombings, and attacks all of which were surrounded by religious fervour."
Wrong. The conflict was about differing traditions and governance. The fact that the 2 groups had differing flavours of Christianity was a detail.
So basic logic was legit 20 years ago, but now it's invalid?
You mean a subset of people who consider themselves to be part of a religion.
But only against those you choose to be intolerant again. And when you are intolerant, you express blanket intolerance. Great way to make enemies and end up like Europe.
Or it would make them feel oppressed and alienated, leading them to lend an ear to the extremists. Oh wait, this is exactly what is happening. You are your own worst enemy.
Mother Theresa was a closeted atheist:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/d...
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I would agree that Marxism is not a religion due to any aspect of faith, but it is a religion in the sense that it is an organized belief adhered to by many. It need not have any faith-based component or theology.
Religion loses a lot of its meaning if any ideology can be considered a religion. A religion requires either supernatural beings or at least the belief in some kind of higher order to the world. Marxism is merely a belief that the relationship between labor and capital fostered by capitalism is not a desirable one. Many economic, sociological, and philosophical theories are derived from this belief, but again I see no reason why that crosses over to religion.
I believe the theories derived from Marxism are flawed, but not ridiculous. While I can see why those who believe Marxism is ridiculous draw parallels between Marxism and religion, but not every ridiculous belief system should automatically be considered a religion.
-- All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. -- Edmund Burke
and what do you suggest we do? simply walk away and let them take over? I dont think we should have gone there to begin with, we should just let them kill each other. but its too late for that now. ISIS popped up because we left before the job was finished (again a job we never should have taken but we did, so we should finish it)
The big one is a peaceful resolution to Israel/Palestine.
Secondary, don't go overboard fighting terrorism. How do you suppose people here would react if Iran were dropping bombs in US suburbs to kill Christian terrorists, killing many civilians in the process? What if they invaded France for no good reason and sparked civil unrest killing 100,000+? I think terrorism drops signficantly if we simply stop fighting it so hard for a few years.
Thirdly, less support for Middle East dictators who happen to be pro-West. People don't like those who aid their suppressors.
Fourth, don't freak out about every foreign government that is identifiably Islamic. Muslim's aren't dumb, they notice the freakout the west has whenever they hear the word Islam, if you're treating someone like your enemy they're likely to do the same in reverse.
None of this is to say that terrorists are remotely justified, but for stuff like this it's best to think of people as existing on a bell curve where the left tail is complete pacifism and the right is terrorism. In the west the mean is closer to pacifist and the standard deviation is small, so our extremist groups tend to look more like the Westborough Baptist Church. But every aggravating action that occurs increases the standard deviation and pushes the mean further to the right, This creates more terrorists at the right hand tail.
The point is that any action that would make you angry if you were a Muslim is going to create more terrorists, so before we do something that would piss off a lot of people we really need to consider if it's worth it.
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President Holland declared that France will stand for freedom of speech with more than 100000 people marching out to support it.
Meanwhile in Lithuania just today two Russian TV channels were banned because of their 'one-sided views' on lots of problems.
Like, I was over in England. You ever been to England, anyone, been to England? No one has handguns in England, not even the cops. True or false? True. Now-in England last year, they had fourteen deaths from handguns. FFFFFourteen. Now-the United States, and I think you know how we feel about handguns-woooo, I'm getting a warm tingly feeling just saying the fucking word, to be honest with you. I swear to you, I am hard. Twenty-three thousand deaths from handguns. Now let's go through those numbers again, because they're a little baffling at first glance. England, where no one has guns, fffffffourteen deaths. United States, and I think you know how we feel about guns-woooo, I'm getting a stiffy-twenty-three thousand deaths from handguns. But there's no connection, and you'd be a fool and a Communist to make one. There's no connection between having a gun and shooting someone with it, and not having a gun and not shooting someone. There have been studies made and there is no connection at all there. Yes. That's absolute proof. You know, fourteen deaths from handguns. Probably American tourists, too.
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