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Ted Cruz To Oversee NASA and US Science Programs

romanval sends word that U.S. Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) will become the new chairman of the subcommittee that oversees NASA and government scientific research. Cruz has both spoken in favor of NASA and attempted to cut its budget, but he's most notable for his opposition to the science supporting climate change. From the article: His vociferous opposition to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and his support of extreme budget cuts could spell trouble for NASA's less prominent programs, such as its own climate research and sophisticated supercomputers. His role on the front lines of the 2013 government shutdown, which critics say had lasting negative effects on public safety, NASA research and EPA scientists' ability to visit contaminated sites, also suggests at best a narrow focus on NASA's largest projects and at worst a disregard for agencies that require science funding.

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  1. Goodbye SpaceX by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Hello pork projects for Boeing.

    1. Re: Goodbye SpaceX by Teancum · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It should be pointed out that SpaceX has a huge presence in Texas, with the Texas state legislature doing some rather recent.... enticements as it were... to get SpaceX to spend a few hundred million dollars more in their state.

      In other words, Ted Cruz would be crucified in his home state and would even hurt his future presidential ambitions if he were to be in public opposition to SpaceX as a company. I certainly expect to see him show up at the ground breaking when SpaceX starts to pour concrete at the Brownsville spaceport that is being built.... in Texas. For that matter, I wouldn't put it past him to show up at McGregor for an engine test or a test flight of the Falcon 9-R. A great photo op and with his dual hat as the chairman of this committee it is going to be an extra reason to appear for stuff like that.

      As chair, he will also get a good insight into space policy issues, which I think will be a good thing too. Somebody with presidential ambitions would be good to become educated on those issues too.

  2. We deserve this guy by linuxguy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This is what democracy is all about.

    1. Re:We deserve this guy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, some idiots a couple thousand miles away voted for this fool and now we all get to deal with it.

      I feel so free. My voice was heard. I'm sure that Cruz will readily accept he doesn't JUST serve his party and ideology, and will take a reasoned approach to dealing with topics that have a vast array of opinions, evidence, and reasonable motivations behind them. He'd never just kowtow to specific interests. I have faith this will be the case because our democracy assures this. ....

      Anyone that thinks we have some sort of pure and proper democracy and this guy was elected because of that is a rube, bought and sold.

      Take your nostalgia tinted views regarding US democracy in action and shove them up your ass.

    2. Re:We deserve this guy by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Yeah, some idiots a couple thousand miles away voted for this fool and now we all get to deal with it.

      The American people, collectively, chose the Republican Party to be in charge of the Senate. This is the result.

    3. Re:We deserve this guy by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The people who didn't vote are just as responsible as the people who voted for a Republican Senator.

      If you think "they're all the same anyway", then fine. Just don't complain when Ted Cruz is a committee chair.

    4. Re:We deserve this guy by turkeyfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

      With Ted Cruz running US science programs, its far more likely that the Chinese will be our new overseers. They already hold a massive amount of our debt, they are out investing us, for example $93B/yr vs $51B/yr in solar, and they are currently orbiting the moon as we speak. Given recent deals to prop up Russia, they are likely to become Russia's overseers as well. Then again, this is the price we must pay for the GOP to make good on their anti-Obama, anti-science agenda.

    5. Re:We deserve this guy by JustinKSU · · Score: 4, Insightful

      That's why we need to agree on an open algorithm to do districting.

    6. Re:We deserve this guy by Fire_Wraith · · Score: 3, Insightful

      That would be a reasonable suggestion for candidates for the House of Representatives, but it still wouldn't have changed anything for Cruz, who's a Senator, as those seats are allocated directly based on the state boundaries.

      If anything though, Cruz's constituency is overly large, meaning that he represents more people, and therefore likely had more raw votes, than most of his Senate counterparts - Texas's population is somewhere on the order of 25-26 million, easily more than the 10 least populous states. In the 2012 election, he received 4.4 million votes out of about 7.8 million or so

      Overall though, the Senate is grossly disproportionate in a lot of ways. Large states like Texas are grossly underrepresented, not only because all those people who voted for him don't have the same influence as a state less than 10% the population of Texas, but also because the number of people who voted for his Democratic opponent alone (3.1 million), nevermind 3rd party candidates, is larger than the full population of something like 20 states, and larger than the average number of Senate votes in many more than that. Those people get absolutely zero representation in the Senate.

      To illustrate just how far off it can get, the 26 least populous states have somewhere around 56 million residents (source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population). You could elect a Senate majority with half that, and if we go by the national voter turnout rate from the 2014 election of 36.3%, and not considering how many of those individuals are ineligible to vote (due to citizenship status, age, etc) you'd only need about 10 million votes, in a country of roughly 320 million people to have full control of the Senate.

      Now, that's a bit of an extreme example, and it discounts that some of those smaller states lean left (VT, DE, RI) while others lean right (WY, AK, ND/SD), just as the same is true for some of the very populous states (CA, TX), but it serves to illustrate just how skewed and disproportionate the Senate can be in terms of representation.

  3. LOL by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If this wasn't so sad, it'd be funny. NASA's new prime directive: find evidence that God created the Earth 6,000 years ago. :(

    1. Re:LOL by cusco · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Good grief. One bureaucrat on one trip to the Middle East said that one of several goals of that one trip was to annoy one group of people slightly less than the rest of the buffoons sent from DC do on a regular basis, and the wingnuts wind that up to make it NASA's primary reason for existence. What the fuck is wrong with you people?

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      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
  4. WTF by Viros · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why do we keep putting people who have a history of being enemies of the scientific community to the scientific subcommittees in Congress? This does nothing productive except give people like Jon Stewart more material.

    1. Re:WTF by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do we keep putting people who have a history of being enemies of the scientific community to the scientific subcommittees in Congress?

      "We" don't, the Republican Party does. They don't like pesky science - It keeps contradicting the bible.

    2. Re:WTF by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They don't like pesky Bible - It keeps contradicting their worship of the rich.

      FTFY

    3. Re:WTF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      They {demorcrats & republcans} don't like pesky Bible - It keeps contradicting their worship of the rich.

      FTFY

      FTFY :-)

  5. Inhofe in charge of the EPA is scarier by barlevg · · Score: 5, Insightful
    1. Re:Inhofe in charge of the EPA is scarier by Rakarra · · Score: 4, Insightful

      " PRESIDENT OBAMA addresses the U.N. General Assembly: The future must not belong to those who target Coptic Christians in Egypt – it must be claimed by those in Tahrir Square who chanted “Muslims, Christians, we are one.” The future must not belong to those who bully women – it must be shaped by girls who go to school, and those who stand for a world where our daughters can live their dreams just like our sons. The future must not belong to those corrupt few who steal a country’s resources – it must be won by the students and entrepreneurs; workers and business owners who seek a broader prosperity for all people. Those are the men and women that America stands with; theirs is the vision we will support.

      The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. "

      It'd be really nice if we could be intellectually honest and admit that one-sentence out-of-context quotes are meaningless.

      Oh what the hell, one-sentence out-of-context quotes are our life-blood, they are what allow us to never be able to debate, never have us stare at the truth, and never be able to change our opinions.

    2. Re:Inhofe in charge of the EPA is scarier by dywolf · · Score: 3, Insightful

      And if he did go you'd complain that he wasnt somewhere else putting out some other fire.
      That's how the game works: the President has a million things to do on any given day, so no matter what he does, you have 999,999 other things to blame him for not doing.

      http://www.bloomberg.com/polit...
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/...

      Let’s dispense with this specific question with no more than the attention it deserves: It would have been all but insane for President Obama to participate in a march, in public, in a foreign country, with a couple million people around him. The security requirements necessary to protect him make it impossible. The Secret Service has to do an extraordinary amount of work and planning for him to drop by Ben’s Chili Bowl a mile from the White House; the idea that with a couple of days notice he could walk through the streets of Paris in an enormous throng of people is absurd.

      There was also an attempted NAACP bombing, but no one cares about that.
      there was also 2000 killed in Nigeria, but no one cares about that either.
      We're presently in tremendously important trade talks with India, but that's also not important.

      At least unless Obama had gone to France, in which case you would be blaming him for:
      a) ignoring terrorism within our won country
      b) ignoring terrorism in Africa
      c) ignoring the needs of our economy by leaving a valueable trade partner in the middle of talks

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      The guy who said the election was rigged won the presidency with the second-most votes.
  6. Re:Is it just me... by jedidiah · · Score: 4, Insightful

    > Also, explain to this Canadian why NASA is researching climate.

    Studying climate generally requires lobbing things into the sky.

    That's covered by the ASA part of NASA.

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    A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
  7. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    A head of NASA who thinks his agency's "foremost" task is to make Muslim's "feel good"?

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/space/7875584/Barack-Obama-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

  8. Too many here pretend Ds and Rs are the same by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1, Insightful

    But we see yet again that the ignorant, superstitious, anti-science, theocratic throwbacks are concentrated in the Republican party, and have driven everyone with an IQ over room-temperature out. "Conservative" is clearly a subset of "stupid."

  9. Re:Wonderful by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    As most people don't realize that Muslims have contributed extensively to the sciences during the medieval age.

  10. The conversation went like... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Who amongst us is the biggest bible thumper?
    That would be Ted Cruz..

    Good, he has the job.. Now we can blame all of the stuff Nasa doesn't do on Obama in the next election and cut Nasa funding at the same time!

    But wait, you say, This is Obamas last term, he can't run again..

    But you also forget, Jeb Bush is going to try to run for president so the republican mandate is to screw up as many things as they can while Obama still is president so the right wing can do what it has been doing since 2008, which is to blame anything and everything on Obama.

    It does not matter that anything remotely scientific is so far out of Cruz's wheelhouse to be ridiculous.

    I want out of this idiotic country!

  11. Geeks don't get it by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Insightful

    To the average American, NASA is just a huge portion of the budget (Billions! of dollars) spent to put some clown in orbit a couple of times a year. This is, in fact, exactly what they want based on their knowledge of what NASA does. All the technology gained by what NASA has learned over the decades by doing the hard and impossible things is entirely lost on Joe Sixpack. And, unfortunately, government / private interaction is not an efficient (in the economic sense) sense, so that the effects of cuts won't be felt where the average person lives for 20 years. It's our own damned fault for living in a country filled with morons.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  12. Re:Is it just me... by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Space flight happens because we want to study things from space. NASA is the "host" for principal investigators who often work outside of NASA. In fact, a major NOAA installation was constructed right across the street from NASA - Goddard (in Greenbelt, MD) to allow closer interaction between the two because their missions are so closely aligned.

    The aeronautical and aerospace research NASA does isn't in a vacuum; it's meant to ultimately serve a useful cause, and that includes studying the planet. It does do wind tunnel research; it does explore other planets; it does advance optics, and thermal management, and fluid flow, and all the myriad pieces which go into spaceflight and airborne hardware requirements. And much of it happens to flow down to terrestrial uses.

    And this is more about Ted Cruz, who doesn't believe that they do anything useful, in charge of their mission. Imagine if they put Aunt Jemima in charge of the Canadian strategic maple syrup reserve. Yeah, it's that crazy.

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    Is it just my observation, or are there way too many stupid people in the world?
  13. Stop the science by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Ever wonder why people who say climate change is not happening are so hell bent on making sure no one studies it? If they are right, the science would back them up. Clearly the only logical conclusion is that they know they are wrong.

  14. Re:Wonderful by Feral+Nerd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As most people don't realize that Muslims have contributed extensively to the sciences during the medieval age.

    And so did the Catholic church. Between the two of them Muslim scholars and Catholic monks are pretty much single handedly responsible for salvaging much of the collective knowledge of the classical world.

  15. Re:Panic way over-blown by organgtool · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm not really concerned about previous NASA cuts as some roles will transition to private industry (like SpaceX).

    For the most part, the private sector only cares about products and services that can make a profit within the next few quarters. That is not and never has been the purpose of government research. Government research is often done in areas where there is no immediate path to profitability, but the results of that research can be used to generate lots of money depending on what we learn from the experiments.

    We used to have a good balance of public and private research in the U.S. but now public research is considered vile and to be avoided at all costs. People honestly believe that the private sector alone should be responsible for performing all research tasks despite its unwillingness to take on big projects that will greatly advance our understanding of the universe such as the large hadron collider. I'm not too worried since other countries seem content with the decline of U.S. research and are using a combination of the public and private sectors to pick up our slack, but as an American it was nice when we had the courage to invest in our future using both sectors to become the leader in scientific research. Maybe we'll eventually come to our senses, but based on the current cynicism against all things government, I'm not holding my breath for that to happen anytime soon.

  16. Re:What's next? by turkeyfish · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's the funny, yet totally brain-dead part of this anti-government argument. Rather than having citizens have input into the process, they would prefer that the 1% should simply own the process. Instead of trying to make America better, they are keen to make either smaller or private. How is a smaller and more privately run America better for the average American?

  17. Re:Panic way over-blown by SuperKendall · · Score: 1, Insightful

    For the most part, the private sector only cares about products and services that can make a profit within the next few quarters.

    I can't think of a single large corporation to which that kind of thing actually applies to what they do anymore. These days most companies are run by people that don't give a fig about profit directly. All of them are jostling now for long-term positions.

    In space that is DOUBLY true. No company right now is angling for immediate profit, they are about building a private space platform for the future which has incalculable long-term benefit.

    Government research is often done in areas where there is no immediate path to profitability

    And yet it's private industry that is almost landing rocket boosters and actually planning manned missions to Mars instead of just thinking on napkins.

    We used to have a good balance of public and private research in the U.S. but now public research is considered vile and to be avoided at all costs

    That's because it's become bloated and wasteful for the most part. Lots of stories now about absurd things being funded with federal research money.

    Business R&D can be very far reaching, but is generally less wasteful, or has a point to it at least.

    As an American it was nice when we had the courage to invest in our future using both sectors to become the leader in scientific research

    I think if we cut government R&D AND corporate taxes substantially, then we'll return to a healthy mix of public/private R&D.

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  18. Re:Wonderful by martas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Saving?" They didn't just save, they actively advanced. Who do you think was at the forefront of medical, technological, scientific, and mathematical research in the middle ages? Who was it that was actively trying to understand how nature worked, because they believed it to be the way to get closer to god?

  19. Re:What's next? by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The only reason I voted for President Obama twice is because as a moderate conservative I couldn't vote for either John McCain in 2008 and Mitt Romney in 2012 because they both pandered to the right wing extremists and made bad VP picks. Surprisingly, President Obama was the best moderate conservative that the Democrats ever nominated.

  20. Re:Is it just me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I find that very hard to believe, especially given the obvious focus of hte USGS on studying geology, not the climate.

    Did the memo say that non-climate change programs were candidates for having budgets cut, or was that the office scuttlebutt?

    Did the memo go out to all of the USGS or just the library?

    What happened afterwards - did all non-climate change programs have their budgets cut? Most? More than average?

    Or is it possible that some climate scientists wanted to know what input the USGS could give to their work and sent a memo around to get an idea what was out there?

  21. Re:What's next? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    In the USA, we like to vote in people who assert that Government Doesn't Work. Then they proceed to make it so.

    Kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy, No?

  22. Re:What's next? by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Insightful

    they make it work for the people that fund their campaigns

    it's a false narrative: people believe government is an impediment

    of course government and bureaucracy can screw things up, but lack of government is far worse, and a corrupt government that serves plutocracy is far, far worse

    the idea should be to treat the sick patient that is government by removing the corruption. but too many morons think killing the patient is a viable option. weaken government and that simply means the power vacuum is filled by the very forces that are corrupting government. works for them: less effort to get what they want at your detriment

    government is not the problem. corruption is. of course corruption will always be a problem. the idea is to minimize it. but currently in the usa, we have legalized corruption: revolving door employment between regulator and industry. corporations openly buying candidates in election campaign funding. these are our real problems: corruption. not government itself

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  23. Re:What's next? by Rakarra · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That's what you get when you elect a man with three Muslim names. His middle name is the best, though: "Hussein". I love saying that! "Hussein". It drives the lefties into a rage!

    You know why it tweaks people? Because the only reason you use it is because you consider it an insult. You're so insular and so fucking isolated from the rest of the world that you can't imagine someone else also having that name, or it actually being a popular name in the rest of the world.
    So let go of the childish antics and grow the fuck up.