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Radio Shack Reported To Be Ready for Bankruptcy Filing

hij writes A number of news reports are coming out the Radio Shack is ready to file for bankruptcy. The stock price has tanked on Wall Street. There are conflicting reports that they are seeking more credit and they may be bought for their assets. (The Wall Street Journal has the story, but paywalled.)

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  1. Obligatory Onion link by Andy_R · · Score: 5, Funny
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    1. Re:Obligatory Onion link by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      i don't think you need to follow their share price to figure out that a store that sells random crap and never seems to have anyone working there might not be doing so well.

      But why now? Even back in the 1980s they were selling random overpriced crap, and there were rarely any customers in the stores. They were openly hostile to the few that ventured in, demanding name, address, and phone number for the privilege of buying a battery. Why is it only now, three decades later, that they are finally going under?

    2. Re:Obligatory Onion link by AvitarX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Last time I went there I needed a 1/8" audio jack and some solder. It was great, I don't know where else I could have gotten those things in 20 minutes, but $8/year doesn't keep a store open, and the times I need those connectors are few and far between.

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    3. Re:Obligatory Onion link by Macman408 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It just shows that they continue to be behind the times. They may be ready to file for bankruptcy now, but all their customers were ready for them to file for bankruptcy 20 years ago!

    4. Re:Obligatory Onion link by Immerman · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Amazon Prime maybe?

      Radio Shack has never been a good deal, but their over-inflated prices are usually still cheaper than ordering a single part+shipping. Plus it's it's generally been one of the few places you can go when you need a single random part *today*.

      Today though you've got lots of stores with massive online catalogs that can be ordered with free shipping to the store, and places like Amazon that offer free or deeply discounted shipping to members and/or on fairly reasonable-sized orders (and offer a broad enough catalog that you can usually find other stuff you need anyway to pad out an order). As people increasingly make use of such alternatives, Radio Shack's customer base is shrinking to just those people that really want their widget NOW, and I imagine there's just not enough of such people to make a profit from.

      Plus there's the demographic lag effect. Even today lots of people don't like doing business over the internet, but it tends to disproportionately be an older demographic that didn't have compelling options when they were younger and more open to alternatives. And that's a demographic that, for any given alternative, will only ever be shrinking.

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    5. Re:Obligatory Onion link by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Most of the ones I've been into in recent history, are more geared to being cell phone resellers. Trying to find actual electronic components are tough....and a sales person with knowledge of them even harder.

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    6. Re:Obligatory Onion link by TWX · · Score: 5, Interesting

      How long as it been since you went into one?

      For the last couple of years I've been able to buy switches and relays and lamps at the one near me, and they haven't harrassed me when I've gone in either.

      Tandy Corporation (remember when they were called that?) got screwed up a long time ago. They tried that Incredible Universe chain as a competitor to Fry's, but screwed that up so badly that Frys ended up taking over those store locations after Tandy spent all that money building them. They tried "Tech America" as a way to go austere and provide us with an outlet for all of the discrete stuff that we needed in a local warehouse, but somehow that folded too after they renamed the store "Radioshack.com".

      By the time they started putting components and heathkits and stuff into their regular stores again the damage was already done.

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  2. Surprised it didn't happen sooner by technomom · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Great article on their imminent demise. http://www.sbnation.com/2014/1...

  3. Sad by TechNeilogy · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Probably inevitable, but sad nonetheless. Some of my fondest memories of my Dad are of visiting Radio Shack with him.

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    1. Re:Sad by Waffle+Iron · · Score: 5, Funny

      I think a libation is in order.

      I think I'll go down to my basement and gather up a buch of old through-hole resistors, caps, potentiometers, 555 timers and 74-series TTL logic. Then I'll fill a 40 oz bottle with them and slowly pour it all out on the ground.

      Then maybe I'll scribble my full name, address and phone number on a 3-sheet carbon paper form one last time.

    2. Re:Sad by Immerman · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't know - a father and child who share a passion for building things together, going to a place that has all the pieces and parts you could want for the latest project (at prices that mean almost nothing to the child)? I could see that being extremely memorable and satisfying experience. Like being the proverbial a kid in a candy shop, topped with anticipation of building the latest whatsit with Dad. Actually, maybe going to a Lego store would be a more apt comparison.

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  4. Which is kind of a shame by Overzeetop · · Score: 5, Interesting

    With the resurgence in the maker movement, RS might have been in the right position to take advantage of it, but instead had tacked towards a mobile phone mall storefront with some overpriced toys, horrifically overpriced, low end consumer electronics, and batteries.

    Sadly, there's probably not enough volume in the maker niche to keep all of the stores afloat at competitive pricing (i.e., not $35 for an Uno board that can be had from Amazon for $18 and from foreign shippers at $12), but it would be awfully cool to have racks of parts and components in at least one store in every town.

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    1. Re:Which is kind of a shame by michaelmalak · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Indeed, 3D printing would have been an ideal market for them to tap. And they should have been the ones to invent Bluetooth keychain finders, not leaving it up to a crowdfunded attempt. The could have been a Square vendor -- do you detect a theme here? Smartphones are the new "radios" and they could have specialized in accessories for them. And why is a search engine paving the way now for the long-sought dream of home automation? That's just the sort of thing you want a storefront for on a Saturday afternoon. Could also have supplied the emerging meshnet communities (more "radios"). The list goes on.

    2. Re:Which is kind of a shame by Eponymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Radio Shack has tried to serve makers. It turns out, makers are among the people most comfortable shopping online.

      I was in a RS recently and they had a 3D printer display, had a rack of Arduino kits, robotics stuff, and lots of little circuit toys for kids on display.

      http://www.radioshack.com/diy-...

  5. Sad to hear by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I know the fashionable thing to do is to bash Radioshack, but there really isn't a brick and mortar that still sells components for tinkerers. If I needed a capacitor for a project, I could nip out and get one from the drawers. They haven't done well with consumer electronics since the Tandy days and I'm amazed they've lasted this long. It's sad to think that this great institution well probably go through a fire sale and disappear. Malls, what's left of them, will just replace it with something like Gap for Dogs or whatever. I know many may not mourn the loss because of things like $30 cables, but I will mourn the loss for the unique items they did carry.

  6. Re:"and they may be bought for their assets." by jandrese · · Score: 4, Informative

    I know this is meant to be a joke, but closing Radio Shack means there is no longer any place you can just run out and grab a specific capacitor or DB9 connector or whatever. It will be online only. This isn't the end of the world, but it is a little sad.

    Their assets are basically their storefronts. That's a lot of retail space that is certainly not going to be transformed into something I would ever want to visit.

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  7. Radio Shack was a great store by Crashmarik · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When I was growing up. Used to be one of the few places you could go and buy electronics parts, and even leatherworking products. They had an excellent line of electronics instruction material, the Forrest Mims books were priceless. Was the place where I bought my first computer a TRS-80 Model 1

    . The shame is that throughout the years they never seemed to know what they wanted to do. Later it seemed like a zombie corporation, where the people who had a passion for the products had left, and all that were left were bean counters being driven by the random lurching motion of retail fads.

  8. Amazon by chuckugly · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Maybe Amazon should buy them and convert them into Amazon fulfillment centers.

  9. Re:"and they may be bought for their assets." by Lab+Rat+Jason · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My local RS still carries a lot of that stuff... they built organizer drawers so they could take up much less space than hanging bags on pegboard, but much was still available. Shame, because sometimes you just need a pack of resistors, or a small transformer, and you don't want to deal with shipping and credit cards for something that should cost $1.50.

    I will say though, that I saw the writing on the wall when they started stocking cheap consumer electronics and the employees there didn't know where to find the resistors... at that point I'd just waive them off and say I'll find what I need myself... none of them knew anything about electronics anymore.

    To see them die now is more of a relief than a sadness... they were dead 5 years ago.

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  10. Returning to their roots & getting with the ti by PseudoCoder · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They could have "gone back to their roots" by dumping all the common electronics that you can get anywhere and addressing the do-it-yourselfers by hopping on the robotics/Arduino bandwagons. Turn the retail floorspace that used to be occupied by crap TV's with a robot combat ring or workshop, focus on hands-on projects again, have in-store Arduino workshops and local demos of user projects and robotics competitions. Connect with the local high/middle-school to supply robotics/coding extra-curriculars, sponsor robotics workshops and have those kids drag their parents into the store after class to build their own projects. I don't even participate in most of that stuff, but I could see those would have been great paths to pursue a new market share.

    They would still need to close many locations and better compete with the mail order business, but they would have created a different customer segment that would be more enthusiastic than the "I need another charger for my phone" crowd rather than reduce their own business to carrion for the vultures. This was a missed opportunity.

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  11. Re:"and they may be bought for their assets." by neilo_1701D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You just nailed the fundamental problem with RS: the total lack of vision of what they wanted to be.

    They followed the crest of every consumer wave for years, but missed the PC market by offering their not-100%-compatible boxes (software had to be written specifically for a RS PC because they did things like keyboards so differently). When it became obvious that the next wave was going to be build-it-yourself PC's, they were caught flat-footed and never caught up.

    In Australia, they quickly dropped components, the "battery of the month" club and virtually everything else that might have set them apart and became nothing more than an expensive place to by mid range consumer electronics. History shows just how wrong that bet was, even in a small market like Australia.

    It's a shame to see the brand go, but I said goodbye to Radio Shack sometime in the late 80's and never set foot in another store.

  12. Re:When I was a young squirt by idontgno · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I don't mean to one-up (ok, actually, I am), but my first computer was from Radio Shack as well. A TRS-80 (later, it would be called a Model I, but at the time it was the only model so didn't need a steenkin' model badge). 4 whole kilobytes of RAM. A tiny BASIC interpreter in-ROM which probably started life as someone's punched-tape baby. 300 baud I/O for highly unreliable audio cassette storage. A video monitor that started out life as a gutted-down RCA black-and-white TV. It's the reason I'm a SW/Systems Engineer instead of an Electrical Engineer.

    I was in a local Radio Shack late last year. There was virtually nothing there for me. I guess some of the Arduino toys were cool, but for my degree of urgency I'd be far better off shopping online. And their consumer electronics stopped being interesting sometime shortly after the 1980s.

    A little sad, a little nostalgic, but the same way as discovering the ol' neighborhood has changed so much and all the landmarks you remember are gone. If they bulldozed the whole thing, it wouldn't be much different.

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  13. 2N2222 by shuz · · Score: 4, Insightful

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    So I found myself needing a 2N2222 the other day. I wanted it NOW I couldn't be bothered to wait 3 days for mouser.com to mail one two me. So I remembered that my friendly neighborhood radioshack carries all the components I need! I head down there and much to my chagrin all they sold anymore were extremely common A/V connectors, cables, and mobile phones by low paid high school kids. Where were to remote controlled airplanes/cars/boats, the CB's, misc electronic parts, knowledgeable sales staff with white scraggly neck beards? I didn't go there expecting to save a buck. No, I expected to pay 3+ times the price of getting it online somewhere. But I could have it NOW! Then I remembered I hadn't been into a radioshack in 10 years. *sigh* I'll miss you electronics parts store.

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  14. I'm not a wedding DJ, but ... by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I needed some odd audio cables last year, so that I could patch an mp3 player into a PA system. I was thinking that I'd find crimp-on 1/8" ends, and make the cable myself.

    I got to the store, and was having trouble finding what I wanted (I found solder-on, but the crimp-on slot was empty), so I thought I'd look at what cables that they had that I could cut up ... and they just happened to have a cable that was 1/8" to bare wires.

    The year before, I got a bunch of various cables so that I could patch into a mixing board to record audio from a conference that I was at. I've had other times when I was outfitting a chase vehicle for a solar car race, and they had the parts that I needed to get all of our various antennas on the roof of the van.

    So yes, it helps for those 'I really do need it now' situations. In some cases, Guitar Center might have it, but the closest one is more than an hour away, and they wouldn't have had the components to make the specific cable that I needed, and they sure wouldn't have had N-connectors and magnetic antenna mounts.

    I hope they can turn it around ... I'd be willing to pay a membership fee just to have them around for when I really need a part.

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  15. The best toy I ever got by Marginal+Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Having just dissed them above, I feel obligated to acknowledge that Radio Shack sold me the best toy I ever got. It was the "100-in-1 Electronic Project Kit". Like all great toys, you could do lots of different things with it. It was endless fun. It had a set of basic electronic components attached to springs, and you wired projects up by bending a spring to the side and then poking a wire into it.

    Some projects were easy (few wires) and some were hard (many wires), but all were fun. Most worked well, some worked a little, and a few didn't work at all. I don't think I ever once got the "Three Transistor AM Radio" to work. But the "Electronic Organ" was endless fun. You could turn a knob to change the pitch. And if you did that just right, you could drive the cat absolutely crazy!

    I bought a couple of updated "150-in-1 Electronic Project Kits" (150? wow, even funner!) for my kids at garage sales a few years ago, but those didn't hold their interest for even an hour. I guess kids nowadays aren't interested in stuff like this - it seems pretty lame in the age of video games (we only had Pong back then) and cellphones (all phones had cords back then, and were the property of AT&T in those monopoly days). They don't know what they're missing. And unfortunately, neither does their cat.

  16. This makes me sad.... by Ronin+Developer · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I grew up knowing RadioShack in its glory. It was one of the few places where I could run out and buy parts to build some new gadget or circuit. And, it was one of the few places where you could not only test tubes from your TV, but replace them...yeah...when YOU could repair your own TV. And, it was fun.

    I also had my first, unofficial job demonstrating the TRS-80 computer. They would let me come in and write software for it. I managed my paper route on their computers. The selling point, customers would come in and see me working. They'd ask what I was doing and I would tell them. Seeing how it ran my business contributed to quite a few sales for the local RS.

    Yup....first HeathKit disappeared, RadioShack lost their way. Now, they too, will soon be gone....just like me.