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Comcast Employees Change Customer Names To 'Dummy' and Other Insults
An anonymous reader writes: According to customer bills and screenshots submitted to and reported by blogger Chris Elliot at BoardingArea, Comcast employees have repeatedly changed the names of customers to insults like "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." Elliott notes although reasons and consequences for this behavior are unknown, "one thing is clear: At least one person, and maybe more than one person, really doesn't like Comcast's customers. Enough to put it in writing. Repeatedly." Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future.
What is a w***e ?
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Is Comcast a real company, or just an Onion-like parody of one?
So there I was, scribbling down some notes off the PC screen by hand, when I reached for the keyboard and Ctrl-S'd.
I wonder if anyone has looked into which region this might be happening in.
Comcast has undergone some significant growing pains since, while in theory they are one big company, in reality they have a maze of poorly connected systems left over from the hundreds of smaller ISPs and cable providers they bought up over the last decade or two. Some of these systems have better controls (and auditing) on them than others, and each absorbed company has its own corporate culture and oversight.
... I'd give them pet names. Like "Mr Muggles" or "smeegle"... just calling people ahole... come on. That's what kids say their name is in RPGs when they don't care... which is always.
A more interesting subject... when you're playing a single player RPG do you ever care what your name is? I mean... half the time I put in nonsense names but it is never meaningful. I might as well be entering in "asshole"...
I've decided to stop wasting my time responding to AC trolls/sockpuppets... so if you want a response from me... login.
I would like to suggest that the lower level employees are merely aping the culture of management. We have a global epidemic of bad corporate manners and of course, occasionally evidence of these bad manners will leak out. All of this can be chronicled back to when they bifurcated the client base into "customers" and "consumers". Customers get helped, consumers get slapped around, called names, and abused. Just sayin'''
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Hey, how's that merger going, bitches?
Sometimes (Often) you really do get a customer that is an a*****e. When doing an adjust or refund we have to put down a reason for it. A few times corporate called us asking why the paperwork said "Customer is an asshole" Well, which part of that don't you understand? It was later changed to "Code 10"
dummy
whore
asshole
bitch
Serious libertarianish social conservative here...
Anyone who thinks there exists more than a Potemkin Village level of competition in this industry is either an idiot or a liar. Exhibit A? You're looking right at it in TFA. In a modestly competitive market, stories like this would get Comcast eaten alive.
If I were a major executive at Verizon, I'd see if we could find these people and if they're anywhere near FiOS. Why? Because I'd order the construction crews to build out to their neighborhoods and then offer them two years of free service just as a publicity stunt to show how much more Verizon cares about its customers than Comcast.
This would get you fired once caught. At least at the Beaverton, OR call center I worked at.
Now why would a bottom tier employee do something like this? Probably because management treats you like crap, corporate wants numbers and management is there to make sure you are on the phone with as little time between calls as possible (you are timed on everything...). They want you to take as many calls as you can by making them quick. They want you to suck up to customers too. On the other hand, they don't want you to give customers a god damn dime.
The customers that have this stuff written about them? Odds are that they're a problem customer that calls frequently. You get those. People who demand moon from you. Sometimes they believe that you have the power to set company policy when in fact we have the least power in the entire organization (our bathroom break times/frequency were monitored). People that believe you have a personal stake in making their connection suck and actually fixing it is the last thing you want to do. It's quite the opposite, we want to fix the problem with a smile on both ends and have a pleasant conversation then move on to the next nice person. Being screamed at actually makes our job loathsome. People who refuse to help you in any way when trying to troubleshoot an issue. People who call you a liar when it's obviously a problem on their side. People who think you're in India and berate you for being a stupid foreigner and treat you with zero respect. Doctors and lawyers are the worst in that arena, even if they know you're American they feel that they know more than you do about your job and you're some shiftless loser lackey barely able to answer a phone. The doctors like this even demand you call them "Dr. SoAndSo" because that is their title. The power trippers like to scream at you and tell you that you're losing them hundreds of dollars per hour, but they refuse to upgrade to $99/mo. business class service where we could have sent a technician out 24/7. Nope, saving hudreds of dollars per hour isn't worth tens of dollars per month more on a billing statement.
Fuck B**a
seriously, this is a news story, use the fucking words they fucking wrote you fucking fucks. worse yet, they were used in quotes meaning it's literally a misquote.
Anons need not reply. Questions end with a question mark.
they are playing you all for suckers and trying to shoot you off the couch. accede to the force, cut the cord, and stream.
if this is supposed to be a new economy, how come they still want my old fashioned money?
I heard they called one of them a "slashdot reader".
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
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Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future.
How about if Comcast offers better customer service, so their customers don't get so angry? Given how bad their customer service is today, "better" is really low-hanging fruit.
Anyone who explodes here in rage probably never worked in support. You get your share of assholes. Actually, you get more than your share of assholes. Because you are in the mind of some people the source and reason of everything that ever befouled them. If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service. Your 5 bucks a month are not paying his paycheck, your call is not his reason to exist and you are essentially of no particular interest to said customer service rep. He's there to HELP you. With a problem that may or may not be caused by you, but one that absolutely certainly was not caused by him or her.
I can only guess what happened here. My guess is that Comcast suits forced support to be nice to even the most obnoxious waste of oxygen calling, and this is their only outlet. If you ask me, a very, very tame reaction. I've seen people actually resort to physical violence.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
There is no competition because the local governments in most of the areas Comcast services has given them a government-approved monopoly. The market has nothing to do with this because the government has deliberately eliminated market forces.
If you cut the Comcast cord, then you're on Exede satellite with its 10 GB/mo quota.
The fix is almost certainly going to be as problematic as no doubt they'll make it harder to change the name like requiring admin rights or having some sort of language filter. The former is more likely and naturally the result will be 'and Comcast has been screwing up the spelling of my name for six months, 3 supervisors promised to fix it, and yet here we are!'
If some script kiddie found their way into the customer database, this is just the kind of thing they would think was funny.
that would be.
"Looking at ways to make sure it doesn't happen in the future"? Maybe instead of finding the technical solution so the employee doesn't have the privileges to modify a customer's name, they might address the deeper problems of running a business where the customer is the enemy and is supposed to be screwed at every possibility?
What are the odds of that happening?
When posting rhetoric do not use acronyms. TFA, FiOS, etc ... does not persuade people.
Plain language does even among hyper-technologist Slashdotters.
And I won't get into the 'Potemkin Village level of competition'...
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If we're gonna argue, let's make it easy on ourselves? OK? I have better things to do than google every acronym and buzzword.
Frankly, I like the arguments here. Although mostly parroting media BS, there is quite a few original opinions here and why I keep coming to Slashdot - against my better judgement.
this happens at every call center. They're high stress jobs with low pay. This kind of thing happens. I knew a project where the entire case was 75% ID-10T tickets. You don't usually even get the chance to fire the people. They're doing this stuff because their lives are a mess, they can't reliable get to work on time, and they know they've only got a little time left before they get fired for their next tardy.
A better question is why the hell would anyone care? There is no way in hell this has any bearing on Comcast's merger plans.
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Anyone who explodes here in rage probably never worked in support. You get your share of assholes. Actually, you get more than your share of assholes.
Do you know there are systems that listen to customers on hold, and if they seem angry, puts them to the front of the queue?
People in support encourage that behavior, reward it, by doing things for people when they get angry. They reward anger, even when not talking to anyone! As a result, people pretend to be angry. I know a guy, who, I've never seen get angry ever.......but when he called support once, I saw him pretend to be angry. Because that gets results.
"First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
I have been quite puzzled regarding some of the insulting names I've been seeing on my junk mail.
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I've seen people actually resort to physical violence.
In remote support? Exactly how does that work?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
W*y t*e H**l y*u p*t s***s in e***y p*****e o******e w**d? Do y*u t***k we a*r c*****n? G**w up.
Yes, but it's still sloppy data entry practice. If a customer really is an asshole or a dummy that should go into the remarks field, not the name field :-)
"... Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future..."?
How about instead of fixing the technical problem that allowed an employee to change the customer's name, they address the fundamental deeper issue that their business treats customers like the enemy, incentivizes employees to harass customers, and looks for ways to screw them at every turn?
That would be "a way to prevent it in the future", but what are the odds of that being fixed instead? Hmm..
Last time I called them to update my expiring credit card number, I didn't even have to talk to a human being. It was all handled by a computer that was easy to understand, quick and didn't try to upsell me on any Comcast bullshit in the process. I gotta say I like Comcast a lot more when I don't have to talk to anyone there.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
Because you are in the mind of some people the source and reason of everything that ever befouled them. If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service.
"Hi, I'm the lowest-level support guy, I've got this menu I have to go down before I give up and connect you to someone who understands your problem."
"Let's start. Unplug the modem, wait 60 seconds, and plug it back in. Does that solve your problem?"
(Several steps later)
"Okay, now unplug the ethernet cable from the modem and computer, switch it end-for-end, and plug it back in again. Does that solve your problem?(*)"
This is what I have to go through before I can talk to someone about their system bouncing an E-mail I sent.
Your 5 bucks a month are not paying his paycheck, your call is not his reason to exist and you are essentially of no particular interest to said customer service rep. He's there to HELP you. With a problem that may or may not be caused by you, but one that absolutely certainly was not caused by him or her.
It's a psychology thing. When you need to give someone instructions or ask for help or whatever, you have to communicate the situation and what you want done.
I've never had a problem with level 2 support, they understand the problem, ask some pertinent questions ("but you can otherwise access the internet OK, yes?") and fix the problem.
If the level 1 person continually misunderstands what you are describing, misdiagnoses the problem, or stubbornly avoids dealing with your problem getting angry is a natural consequence. They are wasting your time, and doing it on purpose.
It's OK to get angry at stupid, stubborn people.
(*) Not making this up. An actual Comcast level-1 support request.
Years ago (in the days when a modem cost about $1 per bit/second!) I was on a conference call with AT&T trying to resolve a noise problem on a multi-point private data circuit. The local (Wilmington DE) test center bridged me into the call, but hadn't gotten around to announcing my presence.
One of the techs in the Baltimore (MD) test center referred to "that pain in the ass at the power company (meaning yours truly)". I laughed a bit and said that old Pain In The Ass thinks the problem is on the Salisbury (MD) leg of the circuit.
The call got very quiet until I chuckled a bit. The local techs knew me pretty well and knew I wouldn't make a fuss. I did suggest that the Pain In The Ass in Baltimore should fix his damned problem and wrung off the call.... :-) Didn't take long and the local techs were kidding me about the faux pais for quite a while.
"Lighten Up, Francis!"
Dodged that bullet.
I am sorry but comcast sucks to put it nicely.
I have to deal with them usually at least once a week. Any company that has 3 inch plexiglass between you and them, you know there is a problem. Second, when calling up and explaining the problem, more often than not, they will put you on hold for a moment and then either drop the call (on purpose) or transfer you back to the que (on purpose) so that you can be someone other persons problem.
We had cable internet at one location. It would not stay up for more than 3 minutes at a time. It was impossible to run a VPN on it. It was the top tier of their cable internet. Over 400 tickets were put in for the 2 years that we had the problem. It never was resolved. We ended up geting DSL, yes 1.5mb DSL because it was STABLE. In fact, we had the regional manager make a trip out to tell us that "Comcast Business NEVER state that they offer reliable internet, only fast". So I printed out comcasts business website that stated "Fast Reliable Internet Guarntee" right on the front page.
Comcast doesn't give a crap about their customers. The president of the company proves it. They were rated the WORST company in the US and the president of comcast said that people really like comcast, those that gave the rating were just a minority of people....
Let me guess, you work for comcast. I work in a support industry and, while the customer is NOT always right, it is NOT ok to call them names. As a support person, your job is to RESOLVE the problem, not to call them names, pass the job to someone else or to irritate them.
They know where you live. I can't believe I have to point that out.
I had my own run-in with Comcast support recently.
We're a customer of theirs. And something is screwed up in their phone tree such that I *always* get disconnected when calling any of their #s, right before getting transferred to a live human. Even if a rep was transferring me, as soon as my call was associated to my account, my call would get dropped when being transferred. Our business depends on internet, so this is more than just an annoyance.
I constantly pleaded for help via Twitter and email for ~2mo before I convinced someone to contact me. The support person I talked to was probably the worst support I've ever had. She acknowledged that it was a "known issue", but that there was no timeline for a solution and no way to provide me with status updates.
More surprisingly, she informed me me that some online chat option was sufficient for getting Concast assistance when I needed it. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use online chat if our business internet connection goes down. I told her that wasn't an adequate solution. She told me that it was. I told her I wanted to speak to her manager. She refused ("I can't put anyone else on the call"). All the while, I heard her "gaming" the support notes system ("Okay, let me just record this.. I informed the customer of the chat option, and the customer opted not to use it").
Think about this. We're a somewhat large customer, and their team isn't the least concerned that I have no method to contact them at all.
We'd switch to another provider if one was available. And I'd at least dismiss it as a fluke if it wasn't so fitting with all the other stories out there.
There's a real problem at Comcast.
They won't stop doing this until their last remaining employee is fired. They want to turn the internet in to cable TV. Stop giving these shitheads your money.
http://satellitecomplaints.com/exede-reviews/
Many of the people whose stories I read only "wronged" the customer support by wanting to reduce their bill, like e.g. cutting out cable-TV from the package. Does that make them assholes or deserving of this kind of thing in your mind?
It seems improbable that a 'Enterprise' Customer Relationship Management system that Comcast must be using wouldn't have a detailed history on account changes, such as who submitted a name change. There should be no mystery as to who is changed the names.
Unless someone has hacked in to the underlying database and is bypassing the business logic, in which case Comcast has a serious problem on their hands.
Tech goons are tech goons, and you better believe it, if you're any of these colorful adjectives, they're going to toss it around to each other for a chuckle.
What do you expect? Employees always make fun of ***** customers. It's just a fact of life. I know Comcast in general sucks at customer support, but face it folks. I'd be willing bet most tech support call centers, regardless of the product they're supporting pass around stories with lots of colorful adjectives about you.
Sticking it in your internal support database is a little crass and over the top perhaps, but.. not surprised. When you're the worst customer support in American, all bets are off, go the extra mile to alienate the people paying you.
Any large company that does business with tens of millions of customers is going to have a few disgruntled workers, even white knights like Costco. Add in the fact that it is politically correct to hate Comcast and add in a few attention seekers willing to create a new meme by photoshopping their bills and you've got yourself a large manufactured crisis when it is really just an isolated incident.
Anyone who explodes here in rage probably never worked in support. You get your share of assholes.
I am working in support, and yes, there are some idiot customers, some obnoxious customers, and some asshole customers.
That much said, if you consider it a good idea to essentially send a customer written notes how much you despise them, then you should not be working in support.
It's OK to get angry at stupid, stubborn people.
No, actually it is never OK to get angry at people if you work customer support. That is the business you have chosen,and I am truly sorry about that because even doing support in a small office can be frustrating. Asking technical questions, or teaching computer usage to non-technical people who do not know technology and see no reason to learn is hard.
Customer service is under appreciated and definitely under paid. As long as corporate America only sees it as a cost center or sales opportunity that isn't going to change. What we are all waiting for is natural language capable systems that can deal with people patiently and careful and so far the best we have is unhappy, under paid, under appreciated people stuck in a tiny cube farm, with limited autonomy and limited skills. This is a breeding ground for internalized rage and depression.
Whenever I am forced to talk to customer service individuals I try and personalizes the conversation, treat them as respected individuals and try an empathize with their plight. I never have a bad encounter and I hope that I have improved their day.
Regards, Chris
> "Okay, now unplug the ethernet cable from the modem and computer, switch it end-for-end, and plug it back in again. Does that solve your problem?(*)"
They're being smart, actually. They want you to check that the cables are properly seated, but they know that most people are too lazy and will say it's good without actually checking the basics. So this is a trick to get most such people to actually check the cables.
You're right that it makes no difference, but given the fact that they deal with 100 idiots for every intelligent person (at least), they can't optimize for the honest and intelligent caller, which is just sad.
Perhaps they mixed up in-coming mail with the outgoing mail. Sounds like angry customers.
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Comcast needs to move most if not all of there contractors and sub contractors in house.
"one thing is clear: At least one person, and maybe more than one person, really doesn't like Comcast's customers"
More like one person doesn't like Comcast's managers and is passing it on to the customers.
If i'm paying for support, I get support. If someone thinks I'm an asshole, fine. I don't care about them. If I don't get the support I think i'm entitled to I'm going to complain. It's important to always make sure you get the name of whoever you're dealing with, and make a note of the time/date of the call. That way when you complain about them there's some chance of their managers knowing who it was calling their paying customers assholes or whatever and they get fired.
Sometimes (Often) you really do get a customer that is an a*****e. When doing an adjust or refund we have to put down a reason for it.
While I will agree wholeheartedly that some customers really are a-holes (I've run into quite a few myself) there is NEVER any excuse for behaving as if they are. You behave professionally and politely even if asking the customer to take their business elsewhere. Always. No exceptions. If they get threatening or abusive then you end the conversation or transfer it to someone whose pay grade justifies taking the abuse. But at all times you remain polite even when the customer doesn't deserve it and isn't being reasonable or nice. If you cannot do this then you should not be talking to customers.
A few times corporate called us asking why the paperwork said "Customer is an asshole" Well, which part of that don't you understand? It was later changed to "Code 10"
Customer being a jerk is never a "reason" to give a discount. You either give a discount because you need/want their business or you don't give a discount and let the customer do whatever they feel is appropriate. Management can set whatever guidelines they want. I have *increased* the amount charged to a customer because they were not being nice but I would never give a discount they were not otherwise entitled to just because they were a jerk. That said, there does need to be a way to signal to others in the company that a particular customer is problematic. I've fired customers because they were not nice to people who worked for me. I've also fired people who worked for me who were unprofessional towards customers.
If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service.
Absolutely. Be a nice person and you'll usually get better results. HOWEVER, it can be very difficult to remain calm when you run into an incompetent support person and most of us have at one time or another. You know the person reading from a script, who doesn't listen to what you are telling them, who is under orders to not really be helpful, incentivized to get you off the phone as fast as possible and doesn't speak the language very well after you have been transferred between 5 different departments thanks to their incomprehensible phone tree. I've run into plenty of support people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing and/or clearly did not have a fuck left to give. If the person I'm speaking to doesn't know how to solve the problem then I expect them to get me to someone who does as quickly as possible. I'm ok with someone admitting they don't know the answer. I'm not ok with them being rude, dismissive, or wasting my time.
Having worked Tech Support for a dial-up ISP years ago, I can attest to the "100 idiots for every intelligent person" problem. You call and believe the CS rep to be an idiot, but you need to understand that the CS rep probably thinks the same about you. Don't get me wrong, in my experience, most CS reps *are* idiots. But having worked as one briefly, most customers are too.
We'd switch to another provider if one was available
There is your problem. They have you by the short curlys and they know it. Doesn't make it right but customers without options tend to get abused.
What I would do after a conversation like that is take it to your Public Utilities Commission if possible. That usually gets their attention. Another option is to call and ask for their legal department (after consulting your own) after very completely documenting what has gone on. That also tends to focus their attention. You also have the option of filing a lawsuit if their legal department won't return your calls. You don't have to actually do anything with it but I can almost guarantee it will get a response.
So this is like American television where one can't say "penis" let alone display one. I recognized "bitch" immediately but the others took some time to recognize. I once wrote "tits and arse" on social news site and they converted it to "**** and *****". I think this is the dumbest form of censorship.
we smell like rats and pizza....
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I agree w/ you, but how exactly do you 'fire' customers? Refusing to sell them the product/service in question?
If Exede is as crap as you say it is, what would you recommend instead of Comcast for people who are not currently in a situation to be able to move to an area served by FiOS?
but when he called support once, I saw him pretend to be angry. Because that gets results.
Used to work support. Can confirm, this works, because the thought at the other end is, "Great, this person won't shut the hell up until I make them go away. I had better make them go away."
Mind you, you need to be angry, not an idiot. Dropping expletives and threatening to report my company to the AG of some miscellaneous backwater state because you signed up for the wrong account isn't going to get quick results, because it's gone from 'annoyance I can solve' to 'this is hilarious and I wonder what other inanity is going to happen if I keep this going'.
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I agree w/ you, but how exactly do you 'fire' customers? Refusing to sell them the product/service in question?
Just just either ask them politely to take their business elsewhere or you charge them a rate so high that it will accomplish the same end. If you have control over pricing you can give them a "go away quote" which basically charges a ridiculous rate. If they pay, fine but then at least you are being compensated adequately. We have a pain in the ass customer at my business and we simply keep raising rates on them to compensate us for the time we have to spend. Sometimes though no amount of money is worth the problems some customers cause.
I have on two occasions however told a customer in no uncertain terms that due to their behavior we no longer cared to do business with them. One was sexually harassing one of my employees and on the other occasion they had someone who simply was rude well above and beyond what his business was worth to us.
You're absolutely right. But it might help to understand why they're doing it on purpose. See, they're being recorded, and if they fail to "execute on policy" (here referring to the script that they absolutely must follow before even thinking about transferring the call) they get to have a nice little chat with their supervisor.(*) You generally only get to have so many nice little chats with your supervisor before security escorts you off the premises. Now you're out of a job, which is a problem, because if you had any better options, you probably wouldn't have volunteered to be "the face of the company" specifically when the customer wants to punch it.
So yeah, the rep is naturally going to follow the script. Humor him for a couple of minutes and he'll get you to the person to whom you actually need to speak. Then, when you're done, you can channel your anger into a strongly-worded email to the CEO explaining how you're going to ensure that his idiotic policy makes him miss his precious tee time. Or, you know, you could work yourself up into an indignant rage at the level-one rep, and really earn that "Asshole" at the top of your Comcast bill.
(*)By the way, listening to call recordings and punishing reps who don't toe the line is what supervisors do while you are on hold waiting for them... that, and take naps.
If the level 1 person continually misunderstands what you are describing, misdiagnoses the problem, or stubbornly avoids dealing with your problem getting angry is a natural consequence. They are wasting your time, and doing it on purpose.
It's OK to get angry at stupid, stubborn people.
(*) Not making this up. An actual Comcast level-1 support request.
They are not deliberately wasting your time. The whole reason for level one tech support is that silly things like swapping the direction of the ethernet cable sometimes work (this is a sign of an ethernet cable with a bad wire incidentally). So they have a series of steps that are to make sure that you have a real problem and not something that is addressable by something simple, like making sure the power strip is turned on. The level one tech support person does not know how to fix your problem -- they know how to read a script. Their job is to follow that script so that tier two time isn't wasted on stupid things.
If you want to get angry at someone, get mad at the people who design the tech support script. It's not that hard to tell if you have a problem that might possibly be fixed by flipping the ethernet cable around. However, yelling at the tier one support person is unlikely to fix that.
Well, at least names didn't get changed to things like "CowboyNeal" or "CmdrTaco" !
When the copyright term is "forever minus a day", live every day like it's the last.
I highly doubt that any supporter ever wanted such a system in place. If they implemented such a system, irate people would go to the back of the queue, infinitely. For the next, say, 5-6 years.
It's management that rewards such behaviour. Not support.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
There are far easier ways to make such a person go away. Drive him further up the anger meter 'til he gets offensive, then you can kick the asshole offline.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
I've actually seen support software been changed to ensure support staff does not get the information of the customer's address. For exactly this reason.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
That depends entirely on what fields the supervisor will check and maybe even overwrite with misleading information that the asshole is actually someone you should treat like a human being.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
But aside of that, these crib sheet supporters exist for a reason. Their existence does not only serve the purpose to waste your time, because that could be accomplished even cheaper than the support monkeys are. By keeping you in the holding loop.
No, the reason is that these utterly and absolutely moronic questions they ask that make you wonder whether they think your IQ measures in the single digits actually solve most tech support problems. Yes, people ARE that stupid. And no, I'm not talking about the supporters here.
The "solutions" these sheets offer that make you wonder whether the support thinks you're unable to tie your own laces without a coach and a personal assistant DO solve the problems most idiots calling them have.
Don't blame support. Blame the idiots who want tha intarwebz but don't want to be bothered with knowing anything about those funny boxes with the blinkenlights next to their computer... or what do you call that thing where my Farmville is shown?
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
You're talking with Bob.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
As some who suffers from agitated depression when people do this to me deliberately your boss or a more senior manager will be on the phone calling me back within a week in a conference call listening to the recording of the call which is legal in my country because the legal department hates getting a notification of legal action.
I cant say what will happen to you but I can certainly put you on the radar and you know what there is no call for it if i have told you 3 times to cancel the service etc then just do it otherwise you are the arsehole who deserves the shitstorm.
If you think that a customer service rep doesn't cancel your subscription because he likes to tick you off rather than because he gets told by the very same senior manager or boss you wish to complain to about it to make it as hard as possible for you to cancel your subscription, I can see where your depression is coming from.
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Yeah, there are a lot of perception issues.
Every smart caller should be smarter than the average support, so most of them will be wasting their time. Except in the case where they're too arrogant to check the basics (is it really plugged in?) and one of those is out of line. And the reps deal with lots of idiots for every intelligent person, so they can't assume you're intelligent even if you are and you really have checked everything.
The smart way to play it is to check all the basics yourself and then help them breeze through their checklist to escalate while being nice. That gives everyone a better experience.
Two years of free cable for one instance of "asshole"? Really? If that's the price you can call me asshole all day, Comcast.
One {redacted} refused to log a call from my Mother because she didn't have a mobile phone 'for them to call her back on'.
Despite my explanation that the fault was out in the street where the Water Company had dug through the phone cable they insisted that you go through this disconnect/connect useless waste of time.
As soon as her phone was fixed (48hours) she moved supplier.
These companies all seem to have the same customer 'do not service' manuals.
"Humans are not machines. Many of them come to hate their jobs beyond the point they can bear, ..." It must be very painful to work for the most obviously abusive company in the United States.
Comcast is the 2014 "Worst Company In America"
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Comcast abuse
No, actually it is never OK to get angry at people if you work customer support.
The other direction, mate. The other direction.
My experience is that a main Comcast corporate policy is abusing the customer. One of the many methods of abuse is over-billing. There will always be some excuse for charges not mentioned in the ads.
The fact that extreme abuse is Comcast corporate policy has a side-effect that is unintended. Since Comcast top managers say abuse is okay, Comcast employees abuse Comcast.
How does the abuse get accomplished? One example: The U.S. government's corrupt financial system caused a lot of unemployment in 2008. After 2008, companies found that they could fire 10% of the employees and get the other 90% to do the work.
So, many people are working too hard. They were working too much before, but now they are exhausted. Comcast takes advantage of that. People are so tired and so accustomed to being abused that they don't spend the many, many hours it takes to get Comcast to bill only the agreed amount.
not surprising because that's Comcast
Why do we care?
If I call Comcast, and they log me as "asshole", as long as they solve my problem why would I possibly care? They're poorly-paid people doing a nearly-thankless job, so I'd submit that they have a fair amount of unresolved frustrations.
I suspect too that - at the root of it - my behavior is likely the trigger. If I really don't want to be called an asshole behind my back, perhaps I should go out of my way to NOT be an asshole to such folks?
So again, why do I care what people call me behind my back, in particular, people I'll likely never deal with again?
-Styopa
Clearly and no doubt a top down campaign.
Assholes are usually that way for a reason. As a company, if you treat your customers badly, guess what, they act like asshole towards you.
You teach people how to treat you.
If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.
But aside of that, these crib sheet supporters exist for a reason. Their existence does not only serve the purpose to waste your time, because that could be accomplished even cheaper than the support monkeys are. By keeping you in the holding loop.
No, the reason is that these utterly and absolutely moronic questions they ask that make you wonder whether they think your IQ measures in the single digits actually solve most tech support problems. Yes, people ARE that stupid. And no, I'm not talking about the supporters here.
The "solutions" these sheets offer that make you wonder whether the support thinks you're unable to tie your own laces without a coach and a personal assistant DO solve the problems most idiots calling them have.
Don't blame support. Blame the idiots who want tha intarwebz but don't want to be bothered with knowing anything about those funny boxes with the blinkenlights next to their computer... or what do you call that thing where my Farmville is shown?
This,
Sadly there are very few ways of determining who is smart enough to have tried all the things that are on a level 1 support monkeys script. The only one I've seen work for an ISP is to go through the support procedure, get it escalated and have a level 3 technician put a note in your file that you're to be immediately escalated to level 2. This is how my ISP deals with me, when I call the first thing they do is put me through to someone higher but they know I'm not going to bother them with anything simple.
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
Cases like this just emphasize how important data auditing is. In an ideal situation, the audit/history records allow you to do undo changes like a desktop application, but even if that isn't implemented, they provide the traceability to identify the perpetrators in situations like this.
Such audit/history logging has been a critical feature of many applications I worked on over the years, though by no means all of them. After all, audit tables do get rather large and have to be pruned from time to time.
Can you imagine your bank trying to claim they had no record of who changed your account name to "Asshole"?
I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
Yeah, Comcast.
One example is that Comcast is greasing our corrupt politicians. In my area there is not other choice since my Village/City signed exclusive rights with Comcast. If you call Comcast and ask for price they will tell you they need address. Reason is they have maps and they know if you have option or now. If not well æ Taki it like a manæ and Pay. Cumcast is horrible. One time I called from my register cell with account I was on hold for 15 min. While on phone I call I used my son cell not known to Comcast. Right away I got person. Existing customer - We got you and sit quiet. Not to mention how their billing is messed up.