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Comcast Employees Change Customer Names To 'Dummy' and Other Insults

An anonymous reader writes: According to customer bills and screenshots submitted to and reported by blogger Chris Elliot at BoardingArea, Comcast employees have repeatedly changed the names of customers to insults like "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." Elliott notes although reasons and consequences for this behavior are unknown, "one thing is clear: At least one person, and maybe more than one person, really doesn't like Comcast's customers. Enough to put it in writing. Repeatedly." Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future.

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  1. w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    What is a w***e ?

    1. Re:w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      RTFA you first posting whore.

    2. Re:w***e ? by bunratty · · Score: 1

      A very large marine mammal.

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    3. Re:w***e ? by messymerry · · Score: 1

      A period of time...

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    4. Re:w***e ? by cmdr_tofu · · Score: 1

      whore not whale. comcast is awful

    5. Re:w***e ? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Sometimes the world gets more tolerant, sometimes less tolerant. The word is 'whore' and not even the Parent's Television Council thinks it needs to be censored.

      And I'm sure the names 'dummy' and 'asshole' do apply to some of the customers. And whore, for that matter, in a literal sense.

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    6. Re:w***e ? by lgw · · Score: 1, Insightful

      My sympathies are with the Comcast tech support on this one. As bad as Comcast can be, which is at least 300 milli-Hitlers bad, the tail-end of the worst people to call customer support can be worse still. Or just too stupid to be allowed to own a computer.

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    7. Re:w***e ? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of terms that might not merit censoring in general speech but still would be considered insulting, you insensitive clod!

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    8. Re:w***e ? by bunratty · · Score: 5, Funny

      W****h!

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    9. Re:w***e ? by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Indeed, my comment was aimed more at the Slashdot summary than anything.

      Although complaining about the Slashdot summary around here is as useless as it is common.

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    10. Re:w***e ? by jd2112 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Sometimes the world gets more tolerant, sometimes less tolerant. The word is 'whore' and not even the Parent's Television Council thinks it needs to be censored.

      It's the most vile insult imaginable. They are comparing their customers to the congressmen that Comcast is bribing, er, lobbying.

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    11. Re:w***e ? by Headw1nd · · Score: 4, Funny

      you I*********e C**d!

      Please, there are children reading

    12. Re:w***e ? by lgw · · Score: 1

      "disenchanted/upset customer"? Clearly, you haven't worked in tech support, or known anyone who has, or read any of the blogs or horror stories, or, really, informed yourself in any way about this. Humans have a bell curve of both "crazy" and "mean", and the tail end of either is not something you'd ever want to come into contact with.

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    13. Re:w***e ? by sjames · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sure, some people who call for support are frustratingly inept or just act like assholes. I get that. Sure, a support person may feel a need to vent by the water cooler. Fine and dandy.

      But, these support assholes are changing the customer name in the database such that the bills go out addressing customers as "asshole" or "whore". That is beyond unprofessional. Perhaps their paychecks should be made out to "dumbass", or "fuck head". Fair's fair.

    14. Re:w***e ? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      The users have no power over the workers, and the workers have real power over the users. The users receive real harm by many known, documented actions of comcast workers. Therefore, it is clear, without going into the details, that the users have very limited capability to do evil to the workers, and the workers have a disproportionately larger capability to do evil to the users.

      Even if you convinced me that users are more evil by nature than the comcast workers, the comcast workers would still be the ones more likely to achieve evil acts. And since there are so many workers and users, and there is a history of attempted evil by both groups, it should be obvious that the comcast workers are achieving real evil, and the users are spewing hateful words and wishing they had capability to do evil.

    15. Re:w***e ? by Aighearach · · Score: 1

      Wait, wait, are you saying that 2 wrongs don't make a right?! But what if the other person is a total _____, that changes it... right?

      If you made out their paycheck to "fuck head" they would be happy. That is hostile enough that even if they somehow didn't have a lawsuit, they could quit and still get unemployment. There are few situations where that applies, but writing pejoratives on the paycheck would tend to make it easier to prove a hostile work environment.

      People doing this are usually trying to get fired so that they can claim unemployment. That works, because they can claim that they didn't have to be fired, that they made a mistake and their behavior could be corrected simply by training them, writing them up and telling them not to do it. If they can get the company to want to fire them right away, it will generally be "without cause" because "with cause" can require the employer to prove not only that there was misconduct, but that it was bad enough to warrant firing. Often it isn't worth the trouble. If they didn't intentionally say the awful thing to the customer, they'll probably get fired without cause, and get their unemployment check. Or, they'll get written up and fired later after they get enough write-ups. Not getting fired is the fail, from the rogue employee perspective.

      Quitting normally means you absolutely don't get unemployment, so there is no motivation for the lazy to quit instead of taking their chances on getting fired.

    16. Re:w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Well, this is simple. If I get a bill addressed to "asshole", then it is clearly not to me. (My name is different.) So it goes unpaid. And they will not be able to collect (by collecting agency/authorities) until they fix the name either.

      And when they eventually fix the name, they can't add surcharges for late payment - I never got any bill on time . . .

    17. Re:w***e ? by grcumb · · Score: 1

      What is a w***e ?

      Wylie, as in Coyote.

      I got Ariadne as well, but b***h....

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    18. Re:w***e ? by whoever57 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Clearly, you haven't worked in tech support, or known anyone who has, or read any of the blogs or horror stories, or, really, informed yourself in any way about this. Humans have a bell curve of both "crazy" and "mean", and the tail end of either is not something you'd ever want to come into contact with.

      It's the *job* of the people who work in call centers to deal with these people. That's what they are paid for. Do you think that plumbers like dealing with pipes full of human waste? No, but it's their job to do so occasionally.

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    19. Re:w***e ? by Gavagai80 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Humans are not machines. Many of them come to hate their jobs beyond the point they can bear, especially if said job involves being yelled at and blamed by angry people all day about things they have no control over. It's natural to direct that blame back at the people yelling at them, and to be on a short fuse after a while. Sure they have to be fired when the insults become public as a matter of public relations, but I sympathize with them even if I'm one of the people they've labeled insultingly.

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    20. Re:w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Clearly you were just a shitty support tech. I did tech support years ago and never had a serious issue with any customer because I knew what the fuck I was doing.

    21. Re:w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If they get fired with cause, most likely they won't be able to collect unemployment insurance.

    22. Re:w***e ? by trawg · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Huh? Congressmen aren't getting paid to fuck. They're getting paid to let other people fuck YOU.

    23. Re:w***e ? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      And I'm sure the names 'dummy' and 'asshole' do apply to some of the customers. And whore, for that matter, in a literal sense.

      So it was you

    24. Re:w***e ? by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2

      Well, this is simple. If I get a bill addressed to "asshole", then it is clearly not to me. (My name is different.) So it goes unpaid. And they will not be able to collect (by collecting agency/authorities) until they fix the name either.

      And when they eventually fix the name, they can't add surcharges for late payment - I never got any bill on time . . .

      That will be cold comfort when they trash your credit rating.

    25. Re:w***e ? by faedle · · Score: 1

      The going hourly wage for plumbers in my region starts around $22/hour, with the upper limit being in the $40/hour range. A local call center hires people for.. well, $9.25/hour, which is our state's minimum wage, and I know people who've worked at that call center for five years and are making.. $9.25/hour.

      Nobody deserves to deal with the kind of shit customers are capable of dealing for minimum wage.

    26. Re:w***e ? by dryeo · · Score: 2

      Quitting normally means you absolutely don't get unemployment, so there is no motivation for the lazy to quit instead of taking their chances on getting fired.

      It's lazy to not want to be abused? I've had fucking abusive jobs before and I quit because it wasn't worth $3.50 an hour to get abused. Luckily back then there were enough jobs that I could be picky but this idea that people should put up with abuse or they're lazy is bullshit.

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    27. Re:w***e ? by cj51 · · Score: 2

      but it is Comcast, and their employees, and they are scum. they do not care what you think about anything.

    28. Re:w***e ? by Yakasha · · Score: 2

      especially if said job involves being yelled at and blamed by angry people all day about things they have no control over.

      "Woe is me, I have no control over which shit call center job I have.", right?

      Go back a few posts

      You take a job at a customer call center for a reviled company;

      If you work for Comcast, you either a) expect to get shit from people hating Comcast; or b) are a complete idiot.

      If you choose to associate yourself with any business or entity, you are choosing to be a part of that organization's reputation too. If you join the CIA, there are some Snowden lovers that are going to hate you. If you join the CIA as a public relations officer, you're going to have to meet & talk to Snowden lovers that are going to hate you. This is known. It doesn't matter if that organization is Comcast, the CIA, the US Army, the KKK, the "Slashdot Beta Lovers Club", Obama's campaign, Romney's campaign, or "The H Club". If you choose the association, and you choose to speak to people who, from the organization's reputation, probably have a good reason to be upset before you ever pick up the phone, then you absolutely have & had control over your predicament. If you can't handle what goes with that, then quit and consider things more carefully before joining another organization with a known bad reputation.

      Sure they have to be fired when the insults become public as a matter of public relations, but I sympathize with them even if I'm one of the people they've labeled insultingly.

      I can sympathize with having to put up with a shitty job; but not with doing a shitty job. The people who made the name changes are assholes. Entertaining, but assholes.

    29. Re:w***e ? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Whore is probably not on their list because.........

      It shouldn't be on anybody's list.

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    30. Re:w***e ? by phoenix321 · · Score: 1

      The horrors of the free market, where call center employees are accepting a wage of $9.25 out of their own free choice instead of learning how to be a plumber where they could earn 22 or 40 per hour.

      Apparently, dealing with customer's shit on the phone for $9.25 has about the same appeal to the general population than dealing with actual customer's shit on their toilets for $22-40.

      I suggest a law for lowering income of the plumber, that greedy capitalist pig.

    31. Re:w***e ? by nightsky30 · · Score: 1

      W*F?!?

    32. Re:w***e ? by faedle · · Score: 1

      Becoming a plumber requires training, which you have to get and pay for yourself. There used to be this place called "community college" which used to give that training at very low (or when I was young, no) cost. Today, even getting into an apprenticeship program requires expenditures.

      The call center will hire anyone who's breathing, spend 2 hours training them to not drool on the equipment, and put them on the phones.

      Some people don't have the money to pay for technical school. Some people have circumstances that have held them back from being anything more than a minimum-wage call center employee. That doesn't make them ANY less human.

      Let me guess. You think people who earn minimum wage LIKE their jobs? Almost none of them do. Almost every one who works for minimum wage is desperate. And it's very difficult to get ahead, if not impossible.

      The "free market" has failed us.

    33. Re:w***e ? by phoenix321 · · Score: 2

      One could always try to work for a plumber to learn the trade. Many tasks done by a plumber are unpleasant, but don't require years of training. Maybe they'd accept someone to help them doing the easy or dirty tasks (that they can still bill the customer for) so they can only work on the clean or hard parts, like welding pipes, making threads and waterproofing fittings.

      Anyone who can watch YouTube for a few hours a week can learn to change valves, connect a faucet or sink. Declogging sinks and toilets is even easier, and there's still customers who will pay someone else to do it.

      YouTube is today's community college. Declogging toilets, installing SAT tv, repairing fans in a computer or changing oil on the car. Everyone has at least some aptitude in something and with some time can learn at least enough to be a slight help for an established small business or craftsman. But yeah, you can keep using it to watch cat videos all day and claim The Man is keeping you down.

    34. Re:w***e ? by mjwx · · Score: 1

      If you work for Comcast, you either a) expect to get shit from people hating Comcast; or b) are a complete idiot.

      You're a cunt.

      Yes a huge, blubbering fanny flap.

      Oh, I'm sorry, you don't like getting abused. But you chose to come to /. you accepted that you're a complete cunt.

      The point I'm making here is that regardless of your job, being abused by customers is never acceptable and blaming the victim for it is pants on head retarded. Now the thing with telco call centre jobs is that they have a very high rate of turnover. Very few Comcast (or Time Warner or Telstra or Vodafone) workers will be lifers (long gone are the days of BT workers staying till pension age). This means that a lot of people work there because they have little choice in the matter (and yes, take a shitty job or starve is not an acceptable choice) and so they move on as soon as they can.

      A lot of people take these jobs because they cant find any other work. This does not mean they have chose to take abuse.

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    35. Re:w***e ? by Yakasha · · Score: 1

      If you work for Comcast, you either a) expect to get shit from people hating Comcast; or b) are a complete idiot.

      You're a cunt. Yes a huge, blubbering fanny flap. Oh, I'm sorry, you don't like getting abused. But you chose to come to /. you accepted that you're a complete cunt.

      I don't recall seeing "If you come to /. you're a cunt." in the EULA. I accept that bigots and idiots might call me a cunt, but no, I don't accept I'm a cunt.

      The point I'm making here is that regardless of your job, being abused by customers is never acceptable and blaming the victim for it is pants on head retarded.

      Blame the victim?! Dude, you're defending the customer service reps! Between the reps & the customers, who are the victims in this story, the only evidence of anybody being a dick, was the reps changing the customer's names! They're the assholes in the story, not some nebulous concept of a generic company hating customer yelling to random innocent reps making them too angry to do their job!

      A lot of people take these jobs because they cant find any other work. This does not mean they have chose to take abuse.

      But they get to call customers, who never did anything to them, "whore".

    36. Re:w***e ? by petteyg359 · · Score: 1

      Th*s *s ge**i*g ri*ic*ulou*. P***s* s*o* censoring random fucking letters of random fucking words. Your audience consists of people who are permitted on the internet, and therefore damn well better be fucking able to handle some fucking instances of fucking pro-fucking-fanity without fucking aster-fucking-isks in the fucking middle. Get my fucking point, fuckers?

    37. Re:w***e ? by stealth_finger · · Score: 2

      Most people that work in customer service realise the customer is not having a go at them personal. It might sound like it but they are venting at the company even if they do keep saying 'you'

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    38. Re:w***e ? by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Well, our middle class is going away fast, and we're back to the model peasants and nobles soon. In that system, unless you're in the 1%... your only choices are to take the abuse, eking out enough calories and a bed to live on, or die.
      Or, go live as a hermit - but gooood luck with that these days! Even if you have somehow managed to acquire real survival skills, prepare to be arrested for things like trying to feed yourself (no fishing / hunting license) or finding a place to sleep. And trying to find a frontier or unclaimed land? Forget it.

      These days, those in power have even more ways to lock you in to indentured servitude than they did historically.

  2. w***e ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    white

  3. What the Hell? by Dartz-IRL · · Score: 5, Funny

    Is Comcast a real company, or just an Onion-like parody of one?

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    1. Re:What the Hell? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Its not a real company, its a monopoly.. so fuck you what are you gonna do about any of it?

    2. Re:What the Hell? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      Is Comcast a real company, or just an Onion-like parody of one?

      Are you asking because of the quality of their Customer Service or actual service?

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    3. Re:What the Hell? by charronia · · Score: 2

      Given some of the stories I've seen from Comcast employees, it's an extremely demoralizing place to work. Not too surprising they'd do things like this.

    4. Re:What the Hell? by mattventura · · Score: 1

      Comcast hates their customers. News at 11.

    5. Re:What the Hell? by unixisc · · Score: 1

      Uh, Comcast did announce - in the linked announcement in the summary - that the person in question would no longer be working for them. What else do you expect them to do, aside from apologizing?

    6. Re:What the Hell? by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Comcast is the cable TV provider of most systems from Maine to New Jersey, and is attempting to merge with Time Warner Cable.

    7. Re:What the Hell? by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 1

      Monopoly? In most places, they face competition from the phone company.

    8. Re:What the Hell? by Darinbob · · Score: 2

      A monopoly can have competition, what makes it a monopoly is that it's big enough to either not care about the competition or big enough to effectively control the market. And in most places Comcast doesn't care about the customers because they are effectively the only choice for television and/or internet. So there are a couple of satellite providers but Comcast ignores them; maybe AT&T has a lower speed internet and half finished television service, but that can be ignored, and in a few places maybe a mobile phone provider offers internet.

      But overall Comcast doesn't care because it doesn't have to. The thing about being a monopoly is that you can get away with lousy service.

    9. Re:What the Hell? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Poe's Law of corporations.

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    10. Re:What the Hell? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Improve worker conditions so this shit doesn't hit the fan anymore.

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    11. Re:What the Hell? by partofthepuzzle · · Score: 1

      Where I am, we have to ISP options: AT&T DSL, topping out at 5mb (really 3mb) or Comcast. For anything that could be called broadband, Comcast has a monopoly.

    12. Re:What the Hell? by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      They really do not. That's like saying Mercedes Benz faces competition from Smart Cars.

      Theoretically, both a Smart Car and an S class have four wheels, but nobody who is shopping for one is seriously considering the other.

      Likewise, nobody shopping for cable Internet is shopping for DSL.

      Not-so-theoretically, Smart are actually owned by Mercedes Benz.

  4. Region? by jythie · · Score: 5, Informative

    I wonder if anyone has looked into which region this might be happening in.

    Comcast has undergone some significant growing pains since, while in theory they are one big company, in reality they have a maze of poorly connected systems left over from the hundreds of smaller ISPs and cable providers they bought up over the last decade or two. Some of these systems have better controls (and auditing) on them than others, and each absorbed company has its own corporate culture and oversight.

    1. Re:Region? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      I wish someone said that every time when Sony is in the spotlight and the SonyBMG rootkit scandal comes up.

    2. Re:Region? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      If Comcast hasn't kept each acquisition at arm's length, it doesn't matter if it was done by Comcast New York or Comcast California, its Comcast's responsibility.

    3. Re:Region? by radarskiy · · Score: 2

      "they have a maze of poorly connected systems left over from the hundreds of smaller ISPs and cable providers they bought up over the last decade or two."

      They may be eaten by a grue. If we're lucky.

    4. Re:Region? by unixisc · · Score: 2

      I wonder if anyone has looked into which region this might be happening in. Comcast has undergone some significant growing pains since, while in theory they are one big company, in reality they have a maze of poorly connected systems left over from the hundreds of smaller ISPs and cable providers they bought up over the last decade or two. Some of these systems have better controls (and auditing) on them than others, and each absorbed company has its own corporate culture and oversight.

      According to the link to Comcast's apology, this happened in Spokane, WA. Does that tie in w/ your theory?

    5. Re:Region? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      Even if some middle manager in some backwaters division falls on their sword, that doesn't make this ok.

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    6. Re:Region? by jones_supa · · Score: 1

      Sony uses many CD manufacturing plants across the world.

    7. Re:Region? by idontgno · · Score: 1

      No such luck. There are some things so vile that not even a grue would eat them. Comcast is #1 on that list.

      We can hope they fall into a pit.

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  5. Lack of creativity... by Karmashock · · Score: 2

    ... I'd give them pet names. Like "Mr Muggles" or "smeegle"... just calling people ahole... come on. That's what kids say their name is in RPGs when they don't care... which is always.

    A more interesting subject... when you're playing a single player RPG do you ever care what your name is? I mean... half the time I put in nonsense names but it is never meaningful. I might as well be entering in "asshole"...

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    1. Re:Lack of creativity... by wiredlogic · · Score: 1

      Quite apropos. Dealing with Comcast CS is very much like playing an RPG with a wicked DM. If only one could muster a vorpal blade to dispatch them altogether.

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    2. Re:Lack of creativity... by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      A more interesting subject... when you're playing a single player RPG do you ever care what your name is?

      Yes. If I'm playing a game which doesn't suck, I try give my character a good name.

      If I'm playing a game which sucks, I still name my characters rude things. Got to get your chuckles somewhere. Lunar was made better by seeing "biatch, be strong"

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    3. Re:Lack of creativity... by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      Some games actually use your character's name as a random seed for the rest of the game.

  6. Hmmm, what about management??? by messymerry · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I would like to suggest that the lower level employees are merely aping the culture of management. We have a global epidemic of bad corporate manners and of course, occasionally evidence of these bad manners will leak out. All of this can be chronicled back to when they bifurcated the client base into "customers" and "consumers". Customers get helped, consumers get slapped around, called names, and abused. Just sayin'''

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    1. Re: Hmmm, what about management??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I would be willing to bet management is doing this as an effort to create an us vs them culture. The grunts in the customer relation centers probably have ridiculous quotas to meet as well.

    2. Re:Hmmm, what about management??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Unlikely. TFA mentioned a subcontractor is involved, which means that Comcast is outsourcing its customer service support. So the employees taking calls and changing the customer records probably don't report to Comcast management at all. Best way for Comcast to solve the problem is add some massive penalties to the SLA they have with the company they've contracted to provide customer service.

    3. Re:Hmmm, what about management??? by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

      Either management is approving of these actions either explicitly or implicitly by inaction or management is incompetent.

      I would bet that management is 100% engaged in the pending merger with Time Warner... that's the sexy stuff. Day to day management of delivering product or keeping the proles... I mean, customers, satisfied is way down the list of priorities. Too hard to measure, too hard to link to anything that raises stock value. It may be sad, but in big companies making customers happy (particularly customers who are captive to your monopoly status anyway) doesn't get you promoted from your middle-management job like cutting costs does.

      I'll wager the under-appreciated grunt employees at the front-lines with the customers are doing this just to test whether any of their merger-mad managers are paying any attention. Since management is only apologizing now after the press and blogosphere have discovered it, the answer was probably no.

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    4. Re:Hmmm, what about management??? by TarPitt · · Score: 2

      Or maybe companies should stop outsourcing their core customer facing functions in order to provide accountability

      Yes I know cost-cutting is more important than customer service even though I wish it was otherwise

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    5. Re:Hmmm, what about management??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just throw them in a swamp. If they sink, then they're just incompetent. If they float, they're witches so you burn them at the stake. Everybody wins.

  7. In The Real World by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Sometimes (Often) you really do get a customer that is an a*****e. When doing an adjust or refund we have to put down a reason for it. A few times corporate called us asking why the paperwork said "Customer is an asshole" Well, which part of that don't you understand? It was later changed to "Code 10"

  8. "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    dummy
    whore
    asshole
    bitch

    1. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      One of the few times an AC can spend its whole post cursing and not be labeled a troll.

    2. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 1

      Asterisks are intended for the pure of heart who don't want to defile their pretty fingers typing "bad words".

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    3. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by nitehawk214 · · Score: 1

      And moderated informative. Well done sir.

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    4. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by flopsquad · · Score: 1

      Oh it was whore! That was really bothering me. I mean, w***e? I was wracking my brain and the best I got was "waste" or... "weene"?

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    5. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      dummy whore asshole bitch

      doodah, doodah

      dummy whore asshole bitch

      all the doodah day

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    6. Re: "dummy," "w***e," "a*****e," and "b***h." by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      please. this is a family forum. use the word a*terisk.

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  9. Evidence of a market failure by MikeRT · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Serious libertarianish social conservative here...

    Anyone who thinks there exists more than a Potemkin Village level of competition in this industry is either an idiot or a liar. Exhibit A? You're looking right at it in TFA. In a modestly competitive market, stories like this would get Comcast eaten alive.

    If I were a major executive at Verizon, I'd see if we could find these people and if they're anywhere near FiOS. Why? Because I'd order the construction crews to build out to their neighborhoods and then offer them two years of free service just as a publicity stunt to show how much more Verizon cares about its customers than Comcast.

    1. Re:Evidence of a market failure by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Those pesky disgruntled employees and contractors tend to be on a slightly shorter leash(or less abused, if HQ decides that it's easier to make them less disgruntled than it is to watch them all the time) if their activity relates to something the company cares about.

      Obviously, comcast isn't directly in favor of random insulting name changes(no real payoff for them, which puts them even below "billing errors"); but their customer service is as glorious as it is because any aspect of customer interaction that isn't billing or upselling is treated like a cost center and abused accordingly.

    2. Re:Evidence of a market failure by wiredlogic · · Score: 2

      Verizon is not building out FIOS. They're running as fast as possible away from anything hard connections to sites that aren't cell towers.

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    3. Re:Evidence of a market failure by Atzanteol · · Score: 1

      Except - Comcast has signed exclusivity deals with those towns and won't let you build or make it prohibitively expensive to build there.

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    4. Re:Evidence of a market failure by __aajfby9338 · · Score: 1

      Wow, that's really awful. I knew that I was giving up modern conveniences like good unlimited data connectivity and paved roads when I moved out this property, and consider that the price of living on acreage that I can afford in California. But I'm really surprised to hear that somebody in a developed area would have the same connectivity problems that I have!

    5. Re:Evidence of a market failure by antdude · · Score: 1

      LOL. Verizon would not do that. Do they really care?

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    6. Re:Evidence of a market failure by Howitzer86 · · Score: 1

      That's weird. She must be freaking out about the direction Microsoft is headed under Nadella.

      I hear Google is going to do some fiber magic in North Carolina. I have some friends there, including a special friend, all of whom I met online. Good luck in your travels. One day we'll be free of all the dinosaurs, people and company alike.

    7. Re:Evidence of a market failure by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      a management truism; as a company treats its employees, so shall its employees treat customers.

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    8. Re:Evidence of a market failure by unitron · · Score: 1

      And the employer who expects the employees to help cheat the customers will always cheat the employees.

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  10. As someone who used to do support for Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    This would get you fired once caught. At least at the Beaverton, OR call center I worked at.

    Now why would a bottom tier employee do something like this? Probably because management treats you like crap, corporate wants numbers and management is there to make sure you are on the phone with as little time between calls as possible (you are timed on everything...). They want you to take as many calls as you can by making them quick. They want you to suck up to customers too. On the other hand, they don't want you to give customers a god damn dime.

    The customers that have this stuff written about them? Odds are that they're a problem customer that calls frequently. You get those. People who demand moon from you. Sometimes they believe that you have the power to set company policy when in fact we have the least power in the entire organization (our bathroom break times/frequency were monitored). People that believe you have a personal stake in making their connection suck and actually fixing it is the last thing you want to do. It's quite the opposite, we want to fix the problem with a smile on both ends and have a pleasant conversation then move on to the next nice person. Being screamed at actually makes our job loathsome. People who refuse to help you in any way when trying to troubleshoot an issue. People who call you a liar when it's obviously a problem on their side. People who think you're in India and berate you for being a stupid foreigner and treat you with zero respect. Doctors and lawyers are the worst in that arena, even if they know you're American they feel that they know more than you do about your job and you're some shiftless loser lackey barely able to answer a phone. The doctors like this even demand you call them "Dr. SoAndSo" because that is their title. The power trippers like to scream at you and tell you that you're losing them hundreds of dollars per hour, but they refuse to upgrade to $99/mo. business class service where we could have sent a technician out 24/7. Nope, saving hudreds of dollars per hour isn't worth tens of dollars per month more on a billing statement.

    1. Re: As someone who used to do support for Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Absolutely right! At VCC, we took pride in getting things done, even when management decided that technical support included sales. If I wanted to be a sales rep, I'd have been on the other side of the building working on commission. But I wanted to "fix broken stuff", but management figured that everyone including the janitor should be selling.

    2. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Doctors are the worst in that arena, even if they know you're American they feel that they know more than you do about your job and you're some shiftless loser lackey barely able to answer a phone. The doctors like this even demand you call them "Dr. SoAndSo" because that is their title. The power trippers like to scream at you

      Posting as anon, for my safety... but as a hospital IT employee, I can totally attest to this. Doctors are the most demanding and entitled people I've ever met. Most nurses on the other hand are quite civil and reasonable. Only occasionally will I have contact with a "bitch" nurse.

    3. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by jockm · · Score: 1

      Here is the thing, you are probably right that some of these abuses may be caused in reaction to difficult customers, but who knows if that is the only reason? In my own experience people who pull crap like that may start out needing a reason, but may well escalate to doing it to anyone they please. I recall once I subscribed to a magazine and filled out nothing more than name and address; only to see my name changed to Jockitch because it amused some random person.

      But here is my larger point: who cares? Yes people can be difficult, they may be jerks, or worse; but this kind of crap is never justified.

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    4. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by sjames · · Score: 3, Informative

      At least one of the customers that got called asshole did nothing more than insist on cancelling a premium option on their cable service. Her 'offense' was actually wanting the option cancelled.

      As for the rest, for better or worse, these people are the only people reachable and so their job is to listen to the complaints. I do try to avoid screaming, but when I tell you there is no signal on the line at all anywhere on my street, I do not want to hear "reboot your computer" or I can't ping your modem, please be home between Monday and Thursday of next week so I can send someone who doesn't have any equipment to fix the actual problem (yes, paraphrased). Of course you can't ping my modem, your network is down. Apparently they haven't been provided any training at all and can't even look up other customers in my neighborhood so they can try pinging their modems.

      Yes, it's the management's fault that they don't even have that very basic knowledge and necessary tools, but since they can't or won't put a manager on the phone (probably a matter of policy), all I can do is ask them to take dictation into a note on the account.

      "Human Shield" has never been a pleasant job title, but it's the one that fits their role in the company more often than not.

    5. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by Gavagai80 · · Score: 3

      But here is my larger point: who cares? Yes people can be difficult, they may be jerks, or worse; but this kind of crap is never justified.

      You don't have to endorse "going postal" to consider that it may be a symptom of workplace problems in the industry. Likewise you don't have to endorse this sort of thing to care about addressing the causes of it, mainly the poor policies of comcast making their support employees miserable.

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    6. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by sribe · · Score: 1

      ...you're some shiftless loser lackey barely able to answer a phone.

      Yep.

    7. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by bmo · · Score: 1

      " It's quite the opposite, we want to fix the problem with a smile on both ends and have a pleasant conversation then move on to the next nice person."

      You haven't been the target of Comcast's "customer retention" have you?

      I scheduled an install, and further discussion in the day with my SO made me cancel it. She had dealt with Comcast in the past and hates them with a passion. As a result, I had to cancel the installation. Rather than just cancel the installation, they fobbed me off on Customer Retention where the guy just wouldn't let up on making "special offers."

      I'm a pretty intelligent guy, last I checked, and I don't like being rude too much, but this was starting to set me off. I told the guy "I know what your job is and it sucks. However, I'm not going to change my mind. Just put me down as "other" for the reason why I'm cancelling the order and move on." Whereupon he sighed and said "yeah, ok."

      And you know what? He was just doing his job to script. It's just that the script is just /so/ bad and customer-hostile that it's offensive. I would have rated him a 10/10 for following the rules, but Comcast overall as a big fat 0 for customer service because of how they structured his job.

      Lesser people would have lost their nut. My SO would have lost hers.

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    8. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by jockm · · Score: 1

      My point (and I do have one) is that the OP was making a big assumption as to why this was happening, one that contained at least a hint of justification. My point is that you don't necessarily need the explanation provided to explain the behavior. Let us not automatically assume the behavior is provoked.

      But even if it was, the difficult people aren't going away. All that can change are Comcast's policies, corporate culture, management style etc. All things internal to the company. It doesn't matter what the provoking incidents are, nor do they serve as a justification — since it is never acceptable to what was done.

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    9. Re:As someone who used to do support for Comcast by nephilimsd · · Score: 1

      I worked at a third-party call center providing support for AT&T customers for years. I ran an administrative job, keeping track of attendance and payroll and the like, but I had to go through the same training as any new hire on the floor. The training is more about handling irate customers and how to get them to feel like you've empathized with their situation more than product knowledge or what is actually happening when you click various buttons on the troubleshooting system U.I. The actual troubleshooting steps themselves are done in flow-chart format, so when a customer mentions a specific symptom, representatives are supposed to type in some keywords and then follow the script. They are recorded, so there is no leeway when following the script. Every step has to be tried until the customer responds that they have attempted the step or whatever. The employees are basically told they have no authority to actually help the customers, but they are held responsible for the customer's feeling of having been helped. It makes no sense. The average tenure at the position is about 6 months. Those that make it to the year mark in this environment have a fair shot of being labled "Team Lead" and those are the ones you generally get when you ask for a manager. There is no way to get to a person who can actually make policy, the system isn't designed to go that high. If you don't like talking to one team lead, you can escalate further, which will get you a new and different team lead with no more authority than the first. That's as high as you can get.

  11. Re:AT&T and Comcast by Arcady13 · · Score: 5, Informative
    Comcast is trying to merge with Time Warner Cable, not AT&T.

    Here is some more info: The Comcast-Time Warner Cable Merger May Not Happen

  12. w***e = whore, a*****e = asshole, b***h = bitch by Gravis+Zero · · Score: 5, Informative

    seriously, this is a news story, use the fucking words they fucking wrote you fucking fucks. worse yet, they were used in quotes meaning it's literally a misquote.

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    1. Re:w***e = whore, a*****e = asshole, b***h = bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That's what happens when a company like Dice buys a site like this.

    2. Re:w***e = whore, a*****e = asshole, b***h = bitch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      This! Soulskill y*u a*e * f*****g s*******s c**t. And timothy i* * f*****g n**-a*****e r*****g m***n.

    3. Re:w***e = whore, a*****e = asshole, b***h = bitch by Kettie · · Score: 1

      What I enjoyed most is the article linked to is actually a summation of the actual article... an aggregator (/.) linked to an aggregator (Consumerist), which linked to the blog (elliot.org). Lazy much? http://elliott.org/blog/hello-...

  13. Comcast is a huge video game by swschrad · · Score: 1

    they are playing you all for suckers and trying to shoot you off the couch. accede to the force, cut the cord, and stream.

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  14. "whore," "asshole," and "bitch." by citizenr · · Score: 1

    you are welcome

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  15. How Comcast can fix this problem by ZipK · · Score: 3, Informative

    Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future.

    How about if Comcast offers better customer service, so their customers don't get so angry? Given how bad their customer service is today, "better" is really low-hanging fruit.

  16. If support calls you an A.., you probably are one by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Anyone who explodes here in rage probably never worked in support. You get your share of assholes. Actually, you get more than your share of assholes. Because you are in the mind of some people the source and reason of everything that ever befouled them. If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service. Your 5 bucks a month are not paying his paycheck, your call is not his reason to exist and you are essentially of no particular interest to said customer service rep. He's there to HELP you. With a problem that may or may not be caused by you, but one that absolutely certainly was not caused by him or her.

    I can only guess what happened here. My guess is that Comcast suits forced support to be nice to even the most obnoxious waste of oxygen calling, and this is their only outlet. If you ask me, a very, very tame reaction. I've seen people actually resort to physical violence.

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  17. Regulatory failure, not a market failure by Solandri · · Score: 1

    There is no competition because the local governments in most of the areas Comcast services has given them a government-approved monopoly. The market has nothing to do with this because the government has deliberately eliminated market forces.

  18. It's either Comcast or prohibitive cap by tepples · · Score: 2

    If you cut the Comcast cord, then you're on Exede satellite with its 10 GB/mo quota.

  19. The fix? by Cantankerous+Cur · · Score: 1

    The fix is almost certainly going to be as problematic as no doubt they'll make it harder to change the name like requiring admin rights or having some sort of language filter. The former is more likely and naturally the result will be 'and Comcast has been screwing up the spelling of my name for six months, 3 supervisors promised to fix it, and yet here we are!'

  20. Sounds like they were hacked by a 15 year old. by JimDot · · Score: 1

    If some script kiddie found their way into the customer database, this is just the kind of thing they would think was funny.

  21. It's a call center by rsilvergun · · Score: 2

    this happens at every call center. They're high stress jobs with low pay. This kind of thing happens. I knew a project where the entire case was 75% ID-10T tickets. You don't usually even get the chance to fire the people. They're doing this stuff because their lives are a mess, they can't reliable get to work on time, and they know they've only got a little time left before they get fired for their next tardy.

    A better question is why the hell would anyone care? There is no way in hell this has any bearing on Comcast's merger plans.

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  22. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by phantomfive · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Anyone who explodes here in rage probably never worked in support. You get your share of assholes. Actually, you get more than your share of assholes.

    Do you know there are systems that listen to customers on hold, and if they seem angry, puts them to the front of the queue?

    People in support encourage that behavior, reward it, by doing things for people when they get angry. They reward anger, even when not talking to anyone! As a result, people pretend to be angry. I know a guy, who, I've never seen get angry ever.......but when he called support once, I saw him pretend to be angry. Because that gets results.

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  23. Oh wow, that explains it by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I have been quite puzzled regarding some of the insulting names I've been seeing on my junk mail.

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  24. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

    I've seen people actually resort to physical violence.

    In remote support? Exactly how does that work?

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  25. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Yes, but it's still sloppy data entry practice. If a customer really is an asshole or a dummy that should go into the remarks field, not the name field :-)

  26. bandaids by supernova87a · · Score: 1

    "... Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future..."?

    How about instead of fixing the technical problem that allowed an employee to change the customer's name, they address the fundamental deeper issue that their business treats customers like the enemy, incentivizes employees to harass customers, and looks for ways to screw them at every turn?

    That would be "a way to prevent it in the future", but what are the odds of that being fixed instead? Hmm..

  27. To Be Fair to Comcast by Greyfox · · Score: 4, Funny

    Last time I called them to update my expiring credit card number, I didn't even have to talk to a human being. It was all handled by a computer that was easy to understand, quick and didn't try to upsell me on any Comcast bullshit in the process. I gotta say I like Comcast a lot more when I don't have to talk to anyone there.

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  28. If support calls you an A, it's a badge of honor by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Because you are in the mind of some people the source and reason of everything that ever befouled them. If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service.

    "Hi, I'm the lowest-level support guy, I've got this menu I have to go down before I give up and connect you to someone who understands your problem."

    "Let's start. Unplug the modem, wait 60 seconds, and plug it back in. Does that solve your problem?"

    (Several steps later)

    "Okay, now unplug the ethernet cable from the modem and computer, switch it end-for-end, and plug it back in again. Does that solve your problem?(*)"

    This is what I have to go through before I can talk to someone about their system bouncing an E-mail I sent.

    Your 5 bucks a month are not paying his paycheck, your call is not his reason to exist and you are essentially of no particular interest to said customer service rep. He's there to HELP you. With a problem that may or may not be caused by you, but one that absolutely certainly was not caused by him or her.

    It's a psychology thing. When you need to give someone instructions or ask for help or whatever, you have to communicate the situation and what you want done.

    I've never had a problem with level 2 support, they understand the problem, ask some pertinent questions ("but you can otherwise access the internet OK, yes?") and fix the problem.

    If the level 1 person continually misunderstands what you are describing, misdiagnoses the problem, or stubbornly avoids dealing with your problem getting angry is a natural consequence. They are wasting your time, and doing it on purpose.

    It's OK to get angry at stupid, stubborn people.

    (*) Not making this up. An actual Comcast level-1 support request.

  29. Nothing new here by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Years ago (in the days when a modem cost about $1 per bit/second!) I was on a conference call with AT&T trying to resolve a noise problem on a multi-point private data circuit. The local (Wilmington DE) test center bridged me into the call, but hadn't gotten around to announcing my presence.

    One of the techs in the Baltimore (MD) test center referred to "that pain in the ass at the power company (meaning yours truly)". I laughed a bit and said that old Pain In The Ass thinks the problem is on the Salisbury (MD) leg of the circuit.

    The call got very quiet until I chuckled a bit. The local techs knew me pretty well and knew I wouldn't make a fuss. I did suggest that the Pain In The Ass in Baltimore should fix his damned problem and wrung off the call.... :-) Didn't take long and the local techs were kidding me about the faux pais for quite a while.

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  30. Thank god I have Xfinity and not Comcast by Mysticeti · · Score: 2

    Dodged that bullet.

  31. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I am sorry but comcast sucks to put it nicely.

    I have to deal with them usually at least once a week. Any company that has 3 inch plexiglass between you and them, you know there is a problem. Second, when calling up and explaining the problem, more often than not, they will put you on hold for a moment and then either drop the call (on purpose) or transfer you back to the que (on purpose) so that you can be someone other persons problem.

    We had cable internet at one location. It would not stay up for more than 3 minutes at a time. It was impossible to run a VPN on it. It was the top tier of their cable internet. Over 400 tickets were put in for the 2 years that we had the problem. It never was resolved. We ended up geting DSL, yes 1.5mb DSL because it was STABLE. In fact, we had the regional manager make a trip out to tell us that "Comcast Business NEVER state that they offer reliable internet, only fast". So I printed out comcasts business website that stated "Fast Reliable Internet Guarntee" right on the front page.

    Comcast doesn't give a crap about their customers. The president of the company proves it. They were rated the WORST company in the US and the president of comcast said that people really like comcast, those that gave the rating were just a minority of people....

    Let me guess, you work for comcast. I work in a support industry and, while the customer is NOT always right, it is NOT ok to call them names. As a support person, your job is to RESOLVE the problem, not to call them names, pass the job to someone else or to irritate them.

  32. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They know where you live. I can't believe I have to point that out.

  33. Re:Rhetoric lesson by ruir · · Score: 1

    Well, if you are a fucking twit that does not know anything, just close your damn facebook account, stop seeing reality shows and sell your TV. The world does not gravitate around you and your ignorance.

  34. It really is this bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    I had my own run-in with Comcast support recently.

    We're a customer of theirs. And something is screwed up in their phone tree such that I *always* get disconnected when calling any of their #s, right before getting transferred to a live human. Even if a rep was transferring me, as soon as my call was associated to my account, my call would get dropped when being transferred. Our business depends on internet, so this is more than just an annoyance.

    I constantly pleaded for help via Twitter and email for ~2mo before I convinced someone to contact me. The support person I talked to was probably the worst support I've ever had. She acknowledged that it was a "known issue", but that there was no timeline for a solution and no way to provide me with status updates.

    More surprisingly, she informed me me that some online chat option was sufficient for getting Concast assistance when I needed it. I'm not sure how I'm supposed to use online chat if our business internet connection goes down. I told her that wasn't an adequate solution. She told me that it was. I told her I wanted to speak to her manager. She refused ("I can't put anyone else on the call"). All the while, I heard her "gaming" the support notes system ("Okay, let me just record this.. I informed the customer of the chat option, and the customer opted not to use it").

    Think about this. We're a somewhat large customer, and their team isn't the least concerned that I have no method to contact them at all.

    We'd switch to another provider if one was available. And I'd at least dismiss it as a fluke if it wasn't so fitting with all the other stories out there.

    There's a real problem at Comcast.

  35. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Gaygirlie · · Score: 1

    Many of the people whose stories I read only "wronged" the customer support by wanting to reduce their bill, like e.g. cutting out cable-TV from the package. Does that make them assholes or deserving of this kind of thing in your mind?

  36. Auditing by Asgard · · Score: 2

    It seems improbable that a 'Enterprise' Customer Relationship Management system that Comcast must be using wouldn't have a detailed history on account changes, such as who submitted a name change. There should be no mystery as to who is changed the names.

    Unless someone has hacked in to the underlying database and is bypassing the business logic, in which case Comcast has a serious problem on their hands.

    1. Re:Auditing by alcmena · · Score: 1

      I don't know... I almost had the power cut at my house because some idiot called up and 1) asked to turn on power at my address and then 2) called back a few days later saying, "oops, I gave the wrong address, please turn power on at my correct address instead." So clearly, the power company went back, looked at the long-running multi-year record that I had with them, figured out the mistake, and silently fixed things; right? No... They marked the account as canceled and promptly mailed a letter saying my power will be turned off in 3 days if I do not call and set up a new account by then. If this can happen with something as critical as electricity, it's entirely possible Comcast really does have no idea who made these changes.

  37. Can't say I'm surprised by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 2

    Tech goons are tech goons, and you better believe it, if you're any of these colorful adjectives, they're going to toss it around to each other for a chuckle.

    What do you expect? Employees always make fun of ***** customers. It's just a fact of life. I know Comcast in general sucks at customer support, but face it folks. I'd be willing bet most tech support call centers, regardless of the product they're supporting pass around stories with lots of colorful adjectives about you.

    Sticking it in your internal support database is a little crass and over the top perhaps, but.. not surprised. When you're the worst customer support in American, all bets are off, go the extra mile to alienate the people paying you.

  38. Re:bandaids by WheezyJoe · · Score: 1

    "... Comcast has apologized and is looking at ways to prevent it from happening in the future..."?.

    An upper manager at Comcast contacted a lower manager in Public and Press Relations, who promptly ordered an assistant to hastily look through pre-fab corporate apology phrases and hash together an official but very brief written response that 1) acknowledges that mistakes were made without admitting to actual knowledge of who made what mistake, if any, 2) appears to take responsibility for whatever went wrong without actually accepting any responsibility for anything, and 3) indicates that some form of appropriate action will be taken without identifying such action or making any commitment that any such action will take place, now or ever. Upon review by at least one corporate attorney to assure that the response does not obligate the company in any way, express or implied, such that the company is completely free and clear to move on and forget the entire thing, the response was released along with an implied message directed to the press that the matter should now be permitted to die away in favor of something more interesting like Katy Perry's wardrobe malfunction.

    There. FTFY.

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  39. Re:This is Comcast's Entire Culture by ITRambo · · Score: 1

    Skynet should run Comcast?

  40. Re:If support calls you an A, it's a badge of hono by cpwegener · · Score: 1

    It's OK to get angry at stupid, stubborn people.

    No, actually it is never OK to get angry at people if you work customer support. That is the business you have chosen,and I am truly sorry about that because even doing support in a small office can be frustrating. Asking technical questions, or teaching computer usage to non-technical people who do not know technology and see no reason to learn is hard.

    Customer service is under appreciated and definitely under paid. As long as corporate America only sees it as a cost center or sales opportunity that isn't going to change. What we are all waiting for is natural language capable systems that can deal with people patiently and careful and so far the best we have is unhappy, under paid, under appreciated people stuck in a tiny cube farm, with limited autonomy and limited skills. This is a breeding ground for internalized rage and depression.

    Whenever I am forced to talk to customer service individuals I try and personalizes the conversation, treat them as respected individuals and try an empathize with their plight. I never have a bad encounter and I hope that I have improved their day.

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    Regards, Chris
  41. Re:If support calls you an A, it's a badge of hono by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    > "Okay, now unplug the ethernet cable from the modem and computer, switch it end-for-end, and plug it back in again. Does that solve your problem?(*)"

    They're being smart, actually. They want you to check that the cables are properly seated, but they know that most people are too lazy and will say it's good without actually checking the basics. So this is a trick to get most such people to actually check the cables.

    You're right that it makes no difference, but given the fact that they deal with 100 idiots for every intelligent person (at least), they can't optimize for the honest and intelligent caller, which is just sad.

  42. Mix-up? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Perhaps they mixed up in-coming mail with the outgoing mail. Sounds like angry customers.

  43. blame it on there contractors and sub contractors by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 2

    Comcast needs to move most if not all of there contractors and sub contractors in house.

  44. One person doesn't like Comcast's customers? by lippydude · · Score: 1

    "one thing is clear: At least one person, and maybe more than one person, really doesn't like Comcast's customers"

    More like one person doesn't like Comcast's managers and is passing it on to the customers.

  45. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Threni · · Score: 1

    If i'm paying for support, I get support. If someone thinks I'm an asshole, fine. I don't care about them. If I don't get the support I think i'm entitled to I'm going to complain. It's important to always make sure you get the name of whoever you're dealing with, and make a note of the time/date of the call. That way when you complain about them there's some chance of their managers knowing who it was calling their paying customers assholes or whatever and they get fired.

  46. Always be polite. ALWAYS. by sjbe · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Sometimes (Often) you really do get a customer that is an a*****e. When doing an adjust or refund we have to put down a reason for it.

    While I will agree wholeheartedly that some customers really are a-holes (I've run into quite a few myself) there is NEVER any excuse for behaving as if they are. You behave professionally and politely even if asking the customer to take their business elsewhere. Always. No exceptions. If they get threatening or abusive then you end the conversation or transfer it to someone whose pay grade justifies taking the abuse. But at all times you remain polite even when the customer doesn't deserve it and isn't being reasonable or nice. If you cannot do this then you should not be talking to customers.

    A few times corporate called us asking why the paperwork said "Customer is an asshole" Well, which part of that don't you understand? It was later changed to "Code 10"

    Customer being a jerk is never a "reason" to give a discount. You either give a discount because you need/want their business or you don't give a discount and let the customer do whatever they feel is appropriate. Management can set whatever guidelines they want. I have *increased* the amount charged to a customer because they were not being nice but I would never give a discount they were not otherwise entitled to just because they were a jerk. That said, there does need to be a way to signal to others in the company that a particular customer is problematic. I've fired customers because they were not nice to people who worked for me. I've also fired people who worked for me who were unprofessional towards customers.

  47. Calm in the face of incompetence by sjbe · · Score: 1

    If you treat the customer support badly, don't expect good service.

    Absolutely. Be a nice person and you'll usually get better results. HOWEVER, it can be very difficult to remain calm when you run into an incompetent support person and most of us have at one time or another. You know the person reading from a script, who doesn't listen to what you are telling them, who is under orders to not really be helpful, incentivized to get you off the phone as fast as possible and doesn't speak the language very well after you have been transferred between 5 different departments thanks to their incomprehensible phone tree. I've run into plenty of support people who have absolutely no idea what they are doing and/or clearly did not have a fuck left to give. If the person I'm speaking to doesn't know how to solve the problem then I expect them to get me to someone who does as quickly as possible. I'm ok with someone admitting they don't know the answer. I'm not ok with them being rude, dismissive, or wasting my time.

  48. Re:If support calls you an A, it's a badge of hono by alcmena · · Score: 2

    Having worked Tech Support for a dial-up ISP years ago, I can attest to the "100 idiots for every intelligent person" problem. You call and believe the CS rep to be an idiot, but you need to understand that the CS rep probably thinks the same about you. Don't get me wrong, in my experience, most CS reps *are* idiots. But having worked as one briefly, most customers are too.

  49. Monopolies abuse those without options by sjbe · · Score: 2

    We'd switch to another provider if one was available

    There is your problem. They have you by the short curlys and they know it. Doesn't make it right but customers without options tend to get abused.

    What I would do after a conversation like that is take it to your Public Utilities Commission if possible. That usually gets their attention. Another option is to call and ask for their legal department (after consulting your own) after very completely documenting what has gone on. That also tends to focus their attention. You also have the option of filing a lawsuit if their legal department won't return your calls. You don't have to actually do anything with it but I can almost guarantee it will get a response.

  50. They don't call us the Wallmart of telecom because by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    we smell like rats and pizza....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMcny_pixDw

  51. Re:Always be polite. ALWAYS. by unixisc · · Score: 1

    I agree w/ you, but how exactly do you 'fire' customers? Refusing to sell them the product/service in question?

  52. Re:AT&T and Comcast by The+New+Guy+2.0 · · Score: 2

    Actually, Comcast already merged with AT&T Broadband, while the rest of AT&T went bankrupt piece by piece. The current AT&T is really what SBC used to be.

  53. Then what instead of Comcast? by tepples · · Score: 1

    If Exede is as crap as you say it is, what would you recommend instead of Comcast for people who are not currently in a situation to be able to move to an area served by FiOS?

  54. Re:Always be polite. ALWAYS. by sjbe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I agree w/ you, but how exactly do you 'fire' customers? Refusing to sell them the product/service in question?

    Just just either ask them politely to take their business elsewhere or you charge them a rate so high that it will accomplish the same end. If you have control over pricing you can give them a "go away quote" which basically charges a ridiculous rate. If they pay, fine but then at least you are being compensated adequately. We have a pain in the ass customer at my business and we simply keep raising rates on them to compensate us for the time we have to spend. Sometimes though no amount of money is worth the problems some customers cause.

    I have on two occasions however told a customer in no uncertain terms that due to their behavior we no longer cared to do business with them. One was sexually harassing one of my employees and on the other occasion they had someone who simply was rude well above and beyond what his business was worth to us.

  55. Wow! by CanEHdian · · Score: 1

    Well, at least names didn't get changed to things like "CowboyNeal" or "CmdrTaco" !

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  56. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I highly doubt that any supporter ever wanted such a system in place. If they implemented such a system, irate people would go to the back of the queue, infinitely. For the next, say, 5-6 years.

    It's management that rewards such behaviour. Not support.

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  57. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    There are far easier ways to make such a person go away. Drive him further up the anger meter 'til he gets offensive, then you can kick the asshole offline.

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  58. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I've actually seen support software been changed to ensure support staff does not get the information of the customer's address. For exactly this reason.

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  59. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    That depends entirely on what fields the supervisor will check and maybe even overwrite with misleading information that the asshole is actually someone you should treat like a human being.

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  60. Re:If support calls you an A, it's a badge of hono by Opportunist · · Score: 2

    If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

    But aside of that, these crib sheet supporters exist for a reason. Their existence does not only serve the purpose to waste your time, because that could be accomplished even cheaper than the support monkeys are. By keeping you in the holding loop.

    No, the reason is that these utterly and absolutely moronic questions they ask that make you wonder whether they think your IQ measures in the single digits actually solve most tech support problems. Yes, people ARE that stupid. And no, I'm not talking about the supporters here.

    The "solutions" these sheets offer that make you wonder whether the support thinks you're unable to tie your own laces without a coach and a personal assistant DO solve the problems most idiots calling them have.

    Don't blame support. Blame the idiots who want tha intarwebz but don't want to be bothered with knowing anything about those funny boxes with the blinkenlights next to their computer... or what do you call that thing where my Farmville is shown?

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  61. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You're talking with Bob.

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  62. Re:If support calls you an A.., you probably are o by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    If you think that a customer service rep doesn't cancel your subscription because he likes to tick you off rather than because he gets told by the very same senior manager or boss you wish to complain to about it to make it as hard as possible for you to cancel your subscription, I can see where your depression is coming from.

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  63. Re:Comcast: Voted the worst company in the U.S. by nightsky30 · · Score: 1

    "Humans are not machines. Many of them come to hate their jobs beyond the point they can bear, ..." It must be very painful to work for the most obviously abusive company in the United States. Comcast is the 2014 "Worst Company In America" Comcast's X1 Platform Might Have "National Known Issue" Stopping It From Actually Working Comcast abuse

    They beat out EA and Monsanto?!?

  64. Re:Rhetoric lesson by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 1

    Useful clue:

    Calling someone an idiot for not knowing your buzzwords of choice does NOT persuade him to your side of an argument.

    And if you actually want change in the world, persuading other people to your side of the argument is helpful to your side.

    Of course, if all you want to do is bitch in your little echo chamber, carry on as you have been....

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    "I do not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
  65. Its Comcast! by Fregelius · · Score: 1

    not surprising because that's Comcast

  66. Genuinely curious by argStyopa · · Score: 1

    Why do we care?
    If I call Comcast, and they log me as "asshole", as long as they solve my problem why would I possibly care? They're poorly-paid people doing a nearly-thankless job, so I'd submit that they have a fair amount of unresolved frustrations.
    I suspect too that - at the root of it - my behavior is likely the trigger. If I really don't want to be called an asshole behind my back, perhaps I should go out of my way to NOT be an asshole to such folks?

    So again, why do I care what people call me behind my back, in particular, people I'll likely never deal with again?

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    -Styopa
  67. Comcrap by maseo126 · · Score: 1

    Clearly and no doubt a top down campaign.

  68. Re:If support calls you an A, it's a badge of hono by mjwx · · Score: 1

    If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

    But aside of that, these crib sheet supporters exist for a reason. Their existence does not only serve the purpose to waste your time, because that could be accomplished even cheaper than the support monkeys are. By keeping you in the holding loop.

    No, the reason is that these utterly and absolutely moronic questions they ask that make you wonder whether they think your IQ measures in the single digits actually solve most tech support problems. Yes, people ARE that stupid. And no, I'm not talking about the supporters here.

    The "solutions" these sheets offer that make you wonder whether the support thinks you're unable to tie your own laces without a coach and a personal assistant DO solve the problems most idiots calling them have.

    Don't blame support. Blame the idiots who want tha intarwebz but don't want to be bothered with knowing anything about those funny boxes with the blinkenlights next to their computer... or what do you call that thing where my Farmville is shown?

    This,

    Sadly there are very few ways of determining who is smart enough to have tried all the things that are on a level 1 support monkeys script. The only one I've seen work for an ISP is to go through the support procedure, get it escalated and have a level 3 technician put a note in your file that you're to be immediately escalated to level 2. This is how my ISP deals with me, when I call the first thing they do is put me through to someone higher but they know I'm not going to bother them with anything simple.

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  69. Data auditing is important by msobkow · · Score: 1

    Cases like this just emphasize how important data auditing is. In an ideal situation, the audit/history records allow you to do undo changes like a desktop application, but even if that isn't implemented, they provide the traceability to identify the perpetrators in situations like this.

    Such audit/history logging has been a critical feature of many applications I worked on over the years, though by no means all of them. After all, audit tables do get rather large and have to be pruned from time to time.

    Can you imagine your bank trying to claim they had no record of who changed your account name to "Asshole"?

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    I do not fail; I succeed at finding out what does not work.
  70. [someone] doesn't like Comcast customers... by sabbede · · Score: 1

    Yeah, Comcast.