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Twitter CEO: "We Suck" At Dealing With Trolls, Vows To Kick Them Out
AmiMoJo writes "We suck at dealing with abuse and trolls on the platform, and we've sucked at it for years," wrote Twitter CEO Dick Costolo in a leaked internal post. "We lose core user after core user by not addressing simple trolling issues that they face every day." Gamergate is only the latest and loudest example of harassment. Robin Williams' daughter, Zelda Williams, left the service last August because of the disturbing images and attacks she received after her father's suicide. Advocates have offered numerous suggestions for fixing the problem, including improving responsiveness to reports and better blocking tools.
I suppose they should copy the slashdot moderation system. =)
After they get rid of all those Christian, Muslim, Athiest, Gay, whatever trolls and all you hear is crickets. Yeah I'm being extreme but I'd rather a few trolls slip through rather than a lot of good posts getting pulled.
The web doesn't need more heavily censored platforms. One persons troll is another persons dissident.
I thought trolls WERE Twitter's core users.
You suck worse at dealing with bots. And worse still about dealing with follow-bait advert accounts managed by media agencies.
If you removed all of these two types of accounts, I have no doubt twitter's "user base" would drop by 80%. It's functionally useless IMHO.
...they suck at avoiding the leakage of sensitive memos towards the outwards.
They should allow downvotes. :)
6000 downvotes might not make you happy, but it's better than personal threats.
That would allow people to vent their emotions. Or show that they are the only person who has a certain opinion.
It's not a silver bullet, but would make me personally very happy
Thank you, Bradley Manning, Edward Snowden and so many others, for courageously defending humanity, my freedom and more!
that this amazes anyone... what is this new thing we're seeing on this internet thing? people being dicks to one another when completely anonymous? wtf? why has no one told me of this before?
free speech on twitter is a right because the alternative is unenforceable without tamping down on the very features that draw people to it.
and when you can say anything at all you want to anybody else, people are going to be dicks.
people need to grow a thicker skin
also, don't particularly like the biased slant of the article, singling out gamergate?
that stuff that sarkeesan documents, it's pretty vile, but i don't really think it's any less vile than the normal trash you see on an unmoderated forum... also, a bunch of that abuse was just calling her a terrible person, with expletives... which, you know can be construed as a legitimate complaint, if a bit crass.
Crybaby celebs leaving in a huffy when (social) media wasn't able to protect them from the truth is the best Twitter news I've heard in years. I almost feel sorry Twitter got stuck in the middle of it, but if people stopped sleeping around for jobs, pretending the internet can "forget" what happened, and manipulating the media then there would certainly be fewer scandals getting blown wide open.
Trolls may make some shit posts, but shit people are what attract them.
It's very common for groups to mass-flag legitimate posts in an effort to censor conversation. It's also common for internet boards to selectively enforce flagging, such as unflagging nontrolls supporting one side of an argument days before nontrolls supporting the other side.
Metamoderation really helps. In before jokes: For all its sins Slashdot comments tend to be of higher quality than most other places on the internet.
I think an organization with a solid pro-free-speech, pro-neutrality platform could also maintain unbiased comment management but I don't think you can find that in a publicly traded organization. Non-rehtorical question: beyond moderation and metamoderation does anyone know an effective way to raise comment quality?
As for trolls in particular I don't see any reason to deal with them differently from other unhelpful, low-effort posts.
If video games influenced behavior the Pac Man generation would be eating pills and running away from their problems.
It's Twitter - shouldn't their memos be 140 characters or less?
#DeleteChrome
Odd however for someone who "left twitter", Looks like Zelda came back
https://twitter.com/zeldawilli...
Also, what is considered a 'core user'? Is the point of using Zelda Williams as an example mean she was a core user?
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I have seen commentary from 'advocates' for better block tools. It consisted of feeding a program in which you fed precreated blacklist you got from a 3rd party.
If you are going to choose to let others decide who you communicate with on social media, you need to re-evaluate why you are using social media.
"Shutting down trolls" is all-too-often Silicon Valley speak for "silencing anyone who expresses conservative or controversial ideas." Gamergate is a great example. Anyone not screaming "Mysogyny!" and parroting the latest feminist line is censored on Reedit and many other forums.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
Every time I think of Gamergate, I'm reminded of that scene in PCU where the protestors break out the blank placards and start writing the latest liberal cause-of-the-moment slogans on them. Some people are just always looking for an oppressor to blame for all their problems, and some cause to give their pathetic lives some meaning. And being the drama queens they are, they feed on any criticism as further evidence that they're being oppressed.
SJW's don't eliminate discrimination. They just expropriate it for themselves.
They'll just buy a couple of hundred accounts and go on.
http://buytwitaccounts.com/
Agreed. As the 'Feminist tropes in games' crowd needs to move on too. Both need to get lives.
Does this mean Twitter's finally going to ban the SJWs? I mean, they've done a ton of damage to legitimate businesses by getting accounts banned for disagreeing with them in the name of "harassment". Look at what's happened to Rogue Star Games.
Oh, wait, I forgot, getting "little people" fired from their jobs by harassing their employers is A-OK as long as SJWs do it. Getting small companies banned from social media is A-OK as long as it's the companies the SJWs don't like. It's the people complaining about the people causing real economic damage on Twitter that are the "trolls". My bad!
is the bottom line.
What, you mean Gamergaters, GG's critics, and anyone else who expresses an opinion on the internet? Yes. They're the ones that get rape threats and suggestions they should kill themselves.
It may come as a surprise to you, but people on the internet are idiots.
while i disagree with the tone of emphasis of the parent, i don't disagree with the sentiment. that's horrific.
Iran has been looking for these features as well. All these trolls spouting womens rights and talk of freedom. Stop the trolls.
Freedom of speech on this platform is its only real value. I think twitter will be severely devalued without free speech.
Let me just automatically block anyone who doesn't use his real name. Also, as I'm 45 years old, let me also automatically block anyone who's under 18. Sorry kids, but I'm not interested in what you're saying.
Its in my butt..... Sorry I know its clumsy but its my first Troll attempt.
When you're posting pictures of you in front of someone you don't like's work place because they said something you don't like counts as something. Maybe not trolling. But it's abusive and shitty and stalking like that happens fairly regularly on the internet.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
tbh i enjoyed the tropes vs women video series. I found them to be +1 interesting and +1 insightful. I didn't agree with everything, but I found them reasoned and well documented. I suspect that the people with the most hate never actually watched the videos.
Most people who have positive views them have never played video games, they are either a willful misinterpretation to fit a narrative or simple very incompetent.
So our rights end where your feelings begin? Yet you still want a platform to express your opinions, right? It's ok for you but not for others who disagree? It's ok for you to use something popular like twitter to express yours, but not ok for those who disagree to do the same?
What if 8chan wasn't run by a neo nazi? Would you be ok with it then? If not, then it doesn't matter what he is.
I find it ironic that you post anonymously here while bitching about anonymous speech.
Watched quite a few because I find them amusing. The documentation is very cherry-picked. As for reasoned, that only works if you accept their rather agenda driven premises.
What he means is: "We suck at censoring opinions that disagree with our particular upper middle class intellectual left coast views."
The best way I have heard of dealing with trolls iis making them invisible to everyone but the troll. The troll continues to see his comments but no one else does.
I'm totally serious on this. Do what I do. I've never been on Twitter. I never will be on Twitter. End of story.
The problem with Twitter is that people think it's valuable. It's not valuable at all. The press is forced to pretend its valuable because their jobs require them to have Twitter accounts. So this had led to the situation where people in the press quote random users on controversial subjects as if their opinions are really important just because they were said on Twitter.
All Twitter is is a way to behave like an ass and say stupid things, sometimes with consequences, sometimes with no consequences. The greatest trick Twitter pulled is convincing people that it's actually important and worth caring about and paying attention to. I still firmly believe that in a not too distant future it will be about as meaningful as My Space is today and future generations will be absolutely baffled that anybody actually thought Twitter was important or useful in the past.
Most people I've encountered who identify as part of Gamergate see this as a serious problem that they need to put a stop to. The movement certaily has its problems; there are a lot of nerds involved who really need some lessons in social ettiquette, but the representation of it as purely about harassment is pretty shoddy journalism as well.
The only endorsement of harassment I've seen from recognisable names have been those who criticise GG.
Dear Twitter CEO:
If you don't understand the difference between trolling and cyberbullying, you already fail.
Trolling: "Global warming is bullshit"
Cyberbullying: "I'm going to chain you to the radiator and grape you in the mouth for decades and decades.*
*I recognize that I'm out of the norm by having a pretty high standard here limited to libel or actual threats, which ARE illegal already; I have very mixed feelings about the whole American societal thing about bullying in general today (of which "cyber" bullying is just an element). But that's tangential to my point here.
-Styopa
You realize the SJW side of Gamergate has an equal, if not worse, record of doxxing people, right?
So where's their equal, if not worse, condemnation?
I enjoyed the one about the "smurfette syndrome" where there's a large group of male characters and a single female who's basically the same as the males but they put on a wig. I also enjoyed the "ms pac man" episode showing how in many instances the female character is the same sprite or design as the male character except for a pink bow.
I have no problem being exposed to ideas that I may not agree with 100%, but are presented in a well thought-out manner. that's what +1 interesting means!
That depends. Was Slashdot's moderation responsible for kicking out the sockpuppets of that other Twitter?
I'm confused, I thought the ability to troll anybody and everybody was exactly the point of twitter.
Jesus fucking H Christ... Now were gonna lose the 1st Ammend. on Twitter too?!? The whole fucking platform was designed to circumvent censorship. :(
How'd they get their tendrils into that one?
Maybe showing the antics of ISI{S|L} causes everyone, I mean everyone, to stop and ask themselves, "Is this how I want the Global Economy to judge me?"
A lot of people get caught up using these services and wind up judging the people they follow whether they troll them or not, even if snarky thoughts aren't expressed, they're still made, just from scrutinizing so much on such a scale. Just don't go on there every day and take it easy, it'll be better for your mind as well as your exposure to vitriol.
Twinstiq, game news
You're a perfect example of a SJW. You wrap everything up in emotion and oppression to make yourself look like a martyr. ("I've got karma to burn.") And then when people stop taking you seriously because of your outbursts, you complain people are just indoctrinated slaves of the system. ("I'll take a sweepstake on whether I get troll or flamebait.")
It took all of 30 seconds to find that Slade Villena of RogueStar Games leaked sensitive financial records from Polytron and IFG as retaliation for some form of SJW infighting.
So they point he's getting at, while not perfectly written, is not some intentional deception. Don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to ignorance. The point he's getting at is that the SJW-side of Gamergate is using fascist tactics against their enemies. And everyone is afraid to stop them for fear of being their next victim. It's domestic terrorism, and it's gotten so vehement that they're starting to do what all terrorists do... fight each other over who is a bigger martyr. And now they're beginning to use their own despicable tactics of doxxing, shame, getting people fired from their jobs, and emotional outbursts against each other.
The SJW movement will be remembered as a terrorist wing that delayed the feminism movement. And everyone is keeping their heads in the sand lest they be the next victim of a career-killing bomb.
the fun of trolling is riding the line between legitimate and absurd. you can't tell with the best trolls. that's what makes them the most exciting
No, but WBC are not seen as Christians. The trolls are seen as gamergate. Moderate Muslims are seen as the same group as Islamic terrorists. Radical Misandrists are seen as the face of Feminism. If they want people to listen to them they need to disassociate themselves from those that others will associate with them.
"I didn't speak up when they came for those of poor grammer (sic), I said nothing because I communicate propperly (sic)."
They didn't get you when they came for those with bad spelling?
"Transparent" is a shit show that trades on every stereotype going. A man in drag is NOT a transsexual.
My problem with block are the users who keep making new accounts to get around blocks (or in response to being kicked off).
You mean like Twitter himself?
I actually very much like the idea of the internet being a place, or, at least having places, where there is no authority, no oversight, and no rule makers. Where if you say something that upsets people, you are mercilessly attacked -- with speech.
The problem with trolls on the internet isn't that they are attacking people with abuse and harassment, it is that they are doing it anomalously. If I tell you I think you are stupid and I am going to come to your house and kill you, you cannot really do anything about it; there are no repercussions to me for my aberrant behavior. I suspect a lot of problems with abuse and trolling would disappear very quickly if everyone was required to post with their full names and a photo of themselves as an avatar.
We are dealing with the fall out from having the Internet half anonymous.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
People role-playing at PTSD in order to provide a justification to silence others trigger me. If my saying "Niagra Falls" triggers you, that's your problem.
Have no idea about "neo-Nazi" or whether he actually thinks that, but it's probably true; most cases of brittle bone disease are inherited. Of course, in that case, eugenics would have prevented him from being born at all.
Of course it matters how they're seen. Public perception matters if you are making a political point.
Do you really think that most people are perfectly rational beings, or even that they're consistent? We're idiots who form prejudices pretty much immediately.
It could have ended after the close quotes.
"Computers are useless. They can only give you answers."
-- Pablo Picasso
Wow. First two paragraphs were right on the razor edge of Poe's law.
Gave it away with "right wing hugbox" -- that's not a term the people who are serious about what you said use all that much. Definitely a masterful troll, though. Bravo.
Yet another person who never bother to actually read The Zoe Post. It's amazing really. Of all the things which get completely misrepresented and demonized during Gamergate, that post gets spun out of context the most. The polar opposite treatment is given to the "Gamers are Dead" articles by the way.
The only reason it's in any way related to the games industry or ultimately Gamergate is due to one, brief, hilariously and critical throwaway line
"We're not gonna protest! We're not gonna protest! We're not gonna protest!..."
So you're all of baph? I thought baph was supposed to be a diverse group of people. I've heard of insulated communities but just on person... Wow.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Oh, please. There are plenty of "girls" on the internet. Misogyny is not NEARLY as widespread as people make it out to be. I can name plenty of places where there are women who openly admit they're women and are FINE with the interactions they make.
And for the millionth time, GG is NOT a hate movement. Yes, it has trolls that use the tag, but...why should I bother trying to explain? You've already made up your mind.
I consider myself pretty progressive AND I'm female. So f'ing what? I don't see a lot of misogyny here, and I DARE you to point me to a place where you're seeing it.
OH, now I get it. You're projecting.
You're calling THIS place a hugbox, but you've presented the contradictory idea that the poster whom you're quoting is NOT promoting a safe space.
The doublethink...it's making me dizzy. Sounds to me like YOU'RE the one that's promoting the idea of hostility where I am frankly not seeing it. And if I have a bad or flawed idea, you know what? I expect people to call me out on it. I don't always expect people to be nice, and I don't feel entitled to it if they aren't. Because I can take care of myself. I don't need some Anon to white knight for me.
I would even bet that you could post as an AC and threaten to rape me to prove your point, because nobody would know it was you.
Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
It's not like there's ever a valid reason to use a URL shortening service in email anyway.
I can't see a valid reason to use a third-party URL shortening service in e-mail. But I can see valid reasons to create your own, such as MUAs that crop the URL at 70-80 characters.
The cover-up didn't work.
The week-long gaming press news blackout and user comment/forum censorship didn't work.
The coordinated, ongoing smear campaign that began with the "Gamers are Over" articles hasn't worked.
The doxxing and harassment of pro-GG folks hasn't worked.
The endless train of embarrassingly desperate counter-hashtags hasn't worked.
The Wikipedia and Nightline hit pieces only damage those outlets' credibility for short-term effect.
PC Gamer is the latest games journalism site to update its ethics policy in the wake of Gamergate, joining IGN, the Escapist, and of course Kotaku/Gawker (though in Gawker's case, they put up more of a fight and the Gamergate pressure to be ethical had to be routed through the FTC). And there are probably more I'm forgetting.
Gamergate also got Brad Wardell (CEO of Stardock) some long-overdue apologies for hit pieces run against him:
https://twitter.com/iamDavidWi...
http://www.gamepolitics.com/20...
http://www.zenofdesign.com/in-...
Ask yourself how much of this you've seen reported in the corrupt media (which at this point, sadly, clearly includes Slashdot). Of course none of it ever had a chance of appearing in the Wikipedia article. Nothing enrages anti-Gamergaters more than someone covering both sides of the story, and that should tell you something.
Their side thrives only in an environment of propaganda and censorship, and evaporates when faced with integrity and transparency. They prove the need for Gamergate every time they write an article based on the assumption that terrorism and child porn^W^W^W^W misogyny and harassment have become the root passwords to the Constitution^W^W journalistic ethics.
The +/- in metamod then opens a submenu where you select what moderation should be applied, so you are basically just saying how it should have been modded, and if everyone goes one way you know the original moderation was not good.
If they were really smart they would take metamoderation results from everyone that has similar results to the ones you give, and adjust moderation for each user to take into account like-minded moderation being more meaningful to you.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
One issue with Twitter is that some people seem to have some imagined convention around how others are supposed to behave.
For example, I made someone mad on Twitter, and they tweeted some snarky line in conjunction with taking a quote of mine out of context.
I don't follow them, so I guess they thought I would not see it? But I happened to look at the users post, saw that post, and responded to it correcting the fact that he had the quote all wrong...
He got SO MAD, and kept saying something like "stay out of my feed". What the hell man, all that stuff is public. He was convinced though I had broken some deep Twitter rule, and perhaps I had violated some unspoken convention... but the point is Twitter the API does not support the imagined convention he had. I think a LOT of people think along those lines, having a mental model of "rules" around Twitter which in reality do not exist.
He ended up blocking me which was fine, I thought it amusing that the only one punished ended up being him for shutting off one possible source of information...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Citation, please.
I mean, I come down on the side of GG (I wouldn't say I'm a supporter, more of someone who's interested in the group psychology aspect of the whole business), but if you're going to say that there have been analyses done, the least you could possibly do is provide links.
Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
I go there maybe a couple times a year, and it's not the trolls that drive me away--it's the shithole that it turned out to be. As soon as I type twitter.com into my browser, I'm inundated with irrelevant information from countless sources that I don't recognize, have zero interest or connection to, with no way to filter it. Every time I go there after months between it seems worse than before. I don't give a shit about trends, retweets, suggestions about whom to follow, and their guerrilla marketing injected throughout. Why does Twitter have more power over what I see than myself? The site seems to exist on the premise that they know better than I do what I should be fed.
If that's the case, then I'm willing to admit I bit down hard.
That said, I'm seeing a lot of this hugbox stuff lately from people who are 100% serious about it. It's hard to figure out who's serious and who isn't.
Some people don't believe in fairies. I don't believe in The Patriarchy.
I didn't say that I wanted a non-anomalous Internet, I said what you are seeing is a result of mixing the two models. I didn't advocated for change in either direction. I suggest you read more carefully before posting.
Your second sentence is utter gibberish. You don't want something because you don't want it? I hope you speak more eloquently than you post, lets your audience end up covered with phlegm.
You suggested that I wish to track people down and punish them for saying things I don't like. I don't know where you got 'me' as the subject in that sentience. Isn't that what the law is for? Laws == things that people have collectively decided to prohibit. If you were to suggest that People who are breaking the law should be tracked down and punished, I would totally agree with you.
Finally you seem somewhat fuzzy headed about the difference between freedom of speach, and freedom of abuse. It is one thing to advocate of an unpopular idea, ('The Nazi party should voted into power','Women should be barefoot and pregnant') vs. various threats ('I am going to drive to your house at 1234 pine st and kill you, bmajik.', ' Here is all bmajik's personal information that could be used for identity theft and fraud'). I will advocate to allow the former but never the latter.
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
One of the most important reasons Gamergate hasn't died is that it exposed (as part of coordinated effort to stomp it out) forces with an apparent willingness and (more shockingly) ability to successfully censor vast swarths of the internet, including sites like slashdot, reddit, and 4chan that were taken for granted as free-speech strongholds.
Of course people are going to care now that they threaten Twitter, which has been second only to Youtube as a major thorn in the censors' sides.
I think the AC was a troll, not someone who holds the beliefs they are espousing.
It is however difficult to tell the difference sometimes.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
No you don't. Because if you did so in the same way as the trolls are associated with GG, then you'd have said WBC are snake handlers and babblers. Not that they're just with them.
Giving up on trying to explain the basics of the internet is not the same as losing.
DNS servers don't use hosts files, you know why? They don't need to convert from a name to an IP, because they are already having a conversation with an IP.
I have explained several times why what you said was wrong, you can continue to try and win the argument if you like, but you are wrong.
If you want to have a civilized discussion about how name resolution works, perhaps you could try to stop posting attacks and constantly trying to "win" an argument.
If I'm such a big talker, and all I do is talk, why did I post numerous links backing up what I say. I even tried to teach you, but I guess winning is too important. Have fun with your hosts file, I will continue actually working in the field.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Your attempts to inject your own Gamergate propaganda into your submissions might fool the editors, but it doesn't fool everyone.
your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
Stalking laws and harassment are incredibly difficult to enforce and a lot of police departments do not have the capacity to handle these problems.
Besides, legality aside, I'd rather know that Twitter was also doing something about abusive shitty behavior on their service than not. Free speech is a constitutionally protected right, but Twitter's not obliged to give bigots and assholes a platform to spew their shit.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
The memo doesn't mention Gamergate so I had to check who did.
Turns out the source of this summary is The Verge and it is one of the corrupt medias Gamergate is fighting. TheVerge regularly post anti-gamergate articles. So it's only fair they carried on by linking the leaked memo to GamerGate. It is in the interest of the corrupt media to silence their critics. How else will they sell their bullshit lies if there are loud critics on Twitter and Youtube?
P.s. You do not have to be in Gamergate to hate TheVerge, they are the people who brought you and fuelled #ShirtStorm.
I don't care who is right or who is wrong or what you can prove or what points were refuted... WHEN you HAVE to USE caps AND bolds AND bullshit FORMATTING charactesr THAT do NOTHING but make YOUR post HARD TO parse and read...ITS NOT WORTH READING.
Would this mean that they would be willing to oppose harassment by certain groups/individuals that accuse others of harassment (such as Chelsea van Valkenberg and Randi Harper, which only have harassed others into silence)?
Twitter supports and protects racists - by smearing their critics with the "Hate Speech" label.
Every time I think of Gamergate, I'm reminded of that scene in PCU where the protestors break out the blank placards and start writing the latest liberal cause-of-the-moment slogans on them. Some people are just always looking for an oppressor to blame for all their problems, and some cause to give their pathetic lives some meaning. And being the drama queens they are, they feed on any criticism as further evidence that they're being oppressed.
I'm confused, are you talking about the GG or the anti-GG people? Maybe that's implicitly your point and this is just a good example of one of those first world problems.
This post was generated by a Cadre of Uber Monkeys for Monkey-Man2000 (603495).
Well that's the thing, you have a strong internal locus of control and personal resilience. You respond to adversity or hostility by either brushing it off or rising to the challenge.
That's not what these people want. They want women to be afraid all the time. They want women to feel powerless, helpless, and weak. They want women utterly dependent on them and their movement/ideology to the point that their loyalty to and support of that movement becomes a woman's sole source of self-worth and identity.
In other words it's an abusive relationship. That's why feminists can't take "no" for an answer.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
"reasoned and well documented"? We're talking about a set of videos repeatedly proven to dishonestly misrepresent virtually everything they show, and which has repeatedly outright made things up and flat out lied. That's not well documented, that's the exact opposite.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
I don't know what's "repeatedly proven", but I've played most of the games they feature, and some of them I've played to death. Maybe you should ask yourself why you're so hostile to new ideas?
Don't "give you shit" about how a completely seperate group of people that hates gamergate as much as the other side isn't part of gamergate. Sure. Right. Thanks for showing exactly how strongly you utterly refuse to accept anything that contradicts your pre-existing prejudices. As for your last line... that basically sums SJWs up in a nutshell. You claim to be for "equality" but you have no problem claiming that you're "more equal" than others.
Anti-gamergate started at the level of screaming racial slurs like "house ni**er" at women who disagreed with them and immediately escalated to targeting women and non-white/LGBT supporters of gamergate for doxing and harassment, successfully getting several fired. They also hacked people's bank accounts, cut off their utilities or paycheck by fraud, sent people knives, syringes, and dead animals in the mail, and have been behind multiple SWATtings. I lost count of how many people had been doxed or worse by anti-GG around thirty, with four SWATtings and at least three jobs lost to racist or sexist harassment targeted at women and minorities, and that was in october of LAST YEAR.
The most prominent public figures on the GameJournoPros side include neonazis, domestic abusers, violent racists, and pedophiles all of whom publicly support, encourage, and even participate in doxing, swatting, and other similarly criminal tactics.
You're right not everything is equal, but the craven intellectual dishonesty belongs to the person who's claiming rich racists protecting a perjurious domestic abuser are having it worse than the people they're getting fired, trying to get killed, and mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
Gamergate HAS a problem, and that problem is that they picked a fight with people that have no problem paying for fake tweets saying things like that, even as they themselves scream racial slurs like "house ni***" at women, get black men fired from their jobs for disagreeing with rich white hipsters, mail people knives, syringes, and dead animals, and send SWAT teams to peoples houses to try and get them killed.
You want to talk about civilized society... maybe you shouldn't be siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
You mean the victim of domestic abuse who posted about his abuser, and experiences being abused, after HE dumped HER? And that so far almost every major claim has turned out to have so much evidence behind it that the FTC has come down hard on Gawker and its ilk? The only people whose claims have been debunked time and time again are the self-aggrandizing manipulative bigots trying to claim they're victims while getting caught working with racist GNAA trolls to pay for fake tweets while they themselves publicly dox anyone they dislike.
You're siding with neonazis, domestic abusers, and violent racists who STARTED by calling women "house ni***ers" and escalated to getting people fired, hacking bank accounts, mailing knives, syringes, and dead animals to people, and even SWATting.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
Is that you, APK?
You don't get to see who modded you up, either. I don't hear you mention that you're so eager to thank any of them for it, though.
If you actually wanted to respond to criticism and weren't motivated by a desire to get back at the critic, you wouldn't give a shit.
You also don't get to see who voted for whom in most elections. Ever ask yourself why? See above.
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
God, APK, you are hilarious.
I did prove you wrong, you are just too dense to grasp it.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
If you don't believe me, go setup a DNS server and try it. You will find that your hosts file will not block any DNS traffic, it will just make the server itself unable to properly resolve the computer.
So, setup a DNS server on another computer with a hosts file pointing your computer to 0.0.0.0 as you state, then use nslookup on your computer and see if it can connect.
It doesn't work, as the DNS service doesn't need to go to hosts to resolve your address in order to respond to you.
APK likes to ask for responses to the same things over and over. Maybe he just likes the responses?
Twitter sucks in trademark enforcement. They "actively defend usage of hashtags by insertionists". And "hashtags" can be trademarks, by insertionists. Read carefully: if someone infrange on your trademark, eg. an competitor encouraging other users to use your trademark as an hashtag in order to promote a competing business, at twitter basically they don't give a damn. Looks a lot like an extortion to me: want us to enforce your rights? only if you pay up, dear.
Really? 'cause that sounds a hell of a lot more like the people in the anti-GamerGate camp than those in GamerGate
"OH NO THAT FEMALE GAME CHARACTER OFFENDS ME HELP HELP I'M BEING OPPRESSED!"
What's been "repeatedly proven" is that McIntosh takes things out of context, misrepresents them, or simply makes things up entirely (as in the most recent videos). It's also been proven that Sarkeesian is a former PUA scam artist saleswoman and that her videos were works of plagiarism and theft.
A bullet may have your name on it but splash damage is addressed "To whom it may concern."
That's right--your irrelevant links don't change a thing: Your desire to know who modded you down is motivated by a desire for revenge, pure and simple. (And you're still perma-banned from Ars.)
Il n'y a pas de Planet B.
Read OED's blog on less or fewer.