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Alleged Bitcoin Scam Leaves Millions Missing

First time accepted submitter OutOnARock writes Yahoo Finance is reporting on the latest Bitcoin scam, this time from Hong Kong. "Investors in a Hong Kong-based Bitcoin trading company fear they have fallen victim to a scam after it closed down, a lawmaker said Monday, adding losses could total HK$3 billion ($387 million). Leung Yiu-chung said his office recently received reports from dozens of investors in Hong Kong who paid a total of HK$40 million ($5.16 million) into the scheme run online by MyCoin, but the total loss may be vastly more. 'The number of cases is increasing. These two days I received calls about more than 30 cases. We estimate more than 3,000 people and HK$3 billion are involved,' he told AFP."

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  1. Why are you throwing your money away on BTC? by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Funny

    Invest in my scheme! Send me money and I'll send you slips of paper that say you own gold!

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  2. A fool and his money... by ZorinLynx · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ...as much as I try to build sympathy for these people, I just can't.

    I mean, just reading about this not knowing what happened would make me think "Hmm this seems shady". I also don't think I'm an overly paranoid person by nature!

    1. Re:A fool and his money... by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Funny

      A libertarian and his money...

  3. 10% of all bitcoins by Sowelu · · Score: 4, Insightful

    if I'm correctly reading the figured I'm finding online, there's about 14 million bitcoins in existence, worth just under 4 billion dollars.

    10% of all bitcoins were just stolen, and don't we see a story like this just about once a year?

    Once in a rare while I regret not getting into Bitcoins during their huge growth phase. Then I'm reminded of how often this happens and I'm glad I kept my money.

    1. Re:10% of all bitcoins by Ralph+Wiggam · · Score: 5, Funny

      If you had bought bitcoins a year ago, a million dollars could have made you a thousandaire.

    2. Re:10% of all bitcoins by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      From what I'm reading, most of the problems isn't with the bitcoins, it is with the people who say if you give us bitcoins we'll give you money and keep giving you money. I don't think I've heard of bitcoins being stolen from someone's own wallet.

      This adage proves the maxim that a sucker is born every minute. So someone promises you annual rates of return of 200 to 300% and you believe them. As my econ prof said, "The first thing you do when you find a $100 bill is ask Why me?" Anyone who could legitimately make that rate of return wouldn't need to find random suckers but quietly amassing their own fortune.

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    3. Re:10% of all bitcoins by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Wallets get cracked fairly routinely; but (to the best of my knowledge) only by virtue of being stored on systems that are compromised by some other means. The bitcoin mechanism alone is pretty solid; but that means very little if you can get access to the wallet by attacking the user's system at some other level and then just reading them off the filesystem.

      For whatever reason, whoever did the core work on bitcoins appears to have been pretty good; but the quality and competence of most of the surrounding activity and infrastructure are somewhere between 'crap' and 'are you sure that this isn't a parody?'

  4. Re:A Bitcoin scam? Impossible! by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bitcoin by definition is a scam. You can't have a scam of a scam.

    You've obviously never seen the movie "The Sting." :-)

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  5. Re:A Bitcoin scam? Impossible! by Drethon · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Bitcoin is like regular bank accounts where most of the moeny is in virtual ones and zeros. Except regular banks have regulation and insurance with decades of history showing they work in most cases. Not to mention if a major bank tried to run away with everyone's money the lynch mob would be epic.

  6. Re:A Bitcoin scam? Impossible! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    >Bitcoin is like regular bank accounts where most of the moeny is in virtual ones and zeros.

    No. Nope. Not. Bitcoin is like a banking system without a bank, where your friends and relatives keep slips of paper saying (anonymously) who is owed what on a dollar bill by dollar bill basis. When you want to use your money, it becomes hard to get anyone to actually give you cash for it. People are trying to find ways to change a few of those slips of paper without you knowing.

    The whole thing is a nightmare. These scams will continue until people get burned enough to walk away.

  7. Amazing what the absence of govt really means by Timmy+D+Programmer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think bitcoins are a great experiment in 'anarchy'. It goes to show that even a crappy government beats none at all.

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    1. Re:Amazing what the absence of govt really means by gatfirls · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Jumping out of the frying pan and into the burner" adequately describes your position.

      Currency is at its basis is valued in confidence. By that measure bitcoin not very competitive with almost any currency in the world.

      My dollar means nothing to me because it can't be counterfeited and/or anonymously transmitted. It matters because when I head to the dealership to buy a car the value doesn't go down by 40% while I am finishing the paperwork, and also because when I go to the bank to withdraw it they *can't* say "sorry we got hacked, follow our twitter feed for updates".

  8. Shadenfreude by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think Bitcoin is one of the world's greatest producers of shadenfreude, but lately it's getting depressing. The cultist mentalities of a lot of them, and their incessant preaching towards their children and loved-ones has gone well beyond obsessed into cult status. The more I read bitcoin stories, the more depressed I get - not for the idiot that blew away all their money, but for the kids getting bitcoin IOUs for gifts, and the wives who are getting their shared vacation savings cashed in to buy more btc.

  9. Proof that there's too much money in the world by JoeyRox · · Score: 4, Insightful

    From the aritcle:

    "One investor said she spent HK$1.3 million in swap options for the virtual currency last September. She said salespersons had told her she would recoup her investment in four months and make around 200-300 percent profit in one year."

    How does someone this stupid get hold of that much money?

  10. This might be a dumb question... by H0p313ss · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... or possibly flamebait.

    Are the Bitcoin skeptics like me allowed to be smug yet?

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  11. Re:A Bitcoin scam? Impossible! by mlts · · Score: 4, Informative

    With a bank, they could shut down, and the government would handle their losses, so I'd say a bank is a lot freer to do stuff.

    However, BitCoin is a buzzword, similar to how "MP3" was in the early 2000s, where one could have something related, use that term and sell it, such as "MP3 headphones", "MP3 batteries", even an ordinary cassette tape (as opposed to the MP3 player shaped as a cassette which worked in car stereos) marked as "good enough to copy MP3 files to it."

    Same with BitCoin. Do a pyramid scheme, stick the term "BitCoin" on it, sit back, rake in the dough. Even though it has -nothing- to do with the cryptocurrency at all, it is just the same type of scam as previously.

  12. Re:A Bitcoin scam? Impossible! by NotDrWho · · Score: 4, Funny

    I was thinking the same thing. "Bitcoin scam" is redundant. It's kind of like saying "worthless Kardashian."

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