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VLC Acquiring Lots of New Features

jones_supa writes: Two weekends ago an update for VLC media player was shared during a presentation in Brussels at FOSDEM. Lead developer Jean-Baptiste Kempf covered VLC's continued vibrant development, as well as features that are coming for VLC 2.2 and VLC 3.0. VLC 2.2.0 will feature automatic, GPU-accelerated video rotation support, extension improvements, resume handling, support for new codecs/formats and rewrites to some of the existing formats, VDPAU GPU zero-copy support, x265 encoder support, etc. Further out is VLC 3.0.0, which is planned to have Wayland support, GPU zero-copy support for OpenMAX IL, ARIB subtitle support, HEVC / VP9 hardware decoding on Android, a rework of the MP4 and TS demuxers, and browsing improvements. The VLC FOSDEM 2015 presentation is available in PDF form. The VLC Git shortlog can be used to follow the development of the project.

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  1. GPU/HW accell :D by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    VLC has always performed pretty badly compared to other media players, but whatever file I throw at it, it Just Works

    Well maybe subtitle support could be better too.

    1. Re:GPU/HW accell :D by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 3, Insightful
      TFS

      VLC Acquiring Lots of New Features

      Fine. But the essential features we do need all the time, like acceleration, streaming: buffering during 'pause', random access to a position while keeping in memory the part that was loaded 30 seconds before [algo], general ergonomics and intuitiveness - are they finally working well? (On Linux at least, that's far from working well)

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  2. Chromecast? by lillgud · · Score: 5, Interesting

    No news about supporting Google Chromecast? The discussion on the forum[1] has been dead quite some time. I can see in the git repo that there actually *is* code present (cast.cpp) and I would guess that this would be a really appreciated feature.

    [1]: https://forum.videolan.org/vie...

    1. Re:Chromecast? by nonsequitor · · Score: 4, Informative

      You CAN use VLC with Chromecast already though. It's not supported in the desktop application yet, but the VLC plugin for the Chrome browser already meets this need. It's fairly easy to make work:
      1) Install VLC plugin for Chrome
      2) Enter URL for video on your filesystem file://path/media.file
      3) Hit the cast button on your browser

      I think official support is on hold until Google releases a Chromecast SDK for desktop applications, otherwise it'll be a hack and could break at any time if Google changes stuff. As far as I know, Google has only released an API for web based services.

  3. DLNA Support? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    This has not been working for ages on OSX and other platforms.

  4. Re:VLC implements this one new trick in their... by Okian+Warrior · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...fix the totally cluttered preferences please.

    Hey! If a product isn't popular enough, it's because it doesn't have enough features!

    The more features you have, the more likely someone will want to use the product for that feature. Look at Mozilla, for example.

    Were you asleep in your "marketing for engineers" class?

    (My personal foible: I stop and start videos a lot, and hunting with the slider to find out where I left off is a royal pain, so I googled "how to make VLC remember position". Big mistake.

    VLC doesn't implement this simple feature, but you can get a plugin that does. Download and install the plugin (copy a DLL library to the install directory? That's totally something the end user should be doing in a mature product!)

    The plugin creates a checkbox which you can then check to save your place when you stop viewing a movie. Woohoo! ...except that now VLC won't run at all, and you have to forcefully delete the plugins and reboot your system just to go back to the old version.

    Who implements some of the obscure, little-used, weird options in VLC but doesn't give the user the option of saving their place?

    VLC is totally something Franz Kafka would design.)

  5. Re:Tech Features Yay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am surprised too. It is nice to see a application that has not yet been ruined with the UX-plague. Perhaps on the next version the buttons are randomized across the screen and the screen estate used for actual content is minimized while the amount of whitespace in screen is maximised. It would also bee so hip to remove half of the configuration items, as they are said to confuse the stupid user.

  6. Re:VLC implements this one new trick in their... by jones_supa · · Score: 2

    (My personal foible: I stop and start videos a lot, and hunting with the slider to find out where I left off is a royal pain, so I googled "how to make VLC remember position". Big mistake. VLC doesn't implement this simple feature, but you can get a plugin that does.

    I encountered the same problem and VLC does seem to have some kind of built-in bookmark feature, but in my case the "go to bookmark" hotkeys did not work.

  7. Re:Tech Features Yay by jones_supa · · Score: 3, Funny

    Also make a minimalistic website with the only VLC cone logo with a drop shadow, along with a text "Simple. Beautiful. Elegant. Media the way you want it." Then just a big download button.

  8. Frame-interpolation. by Gaygirlie · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Personally, I would like to see them add frame-interpolation to VLC. There is Smooth Video Project that can be used with several other players and you could use it even with XBMC, though I don't know if it works with Kodi anymore, but SVP doesn't work with VLC. I really do enjoy watching videos in 60 fps, it's like a night and day compared to the usual 23.976 or 25 fps, even if it's just interpolated.

  9. Just me? by ledow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Is it just me?

    "VLC 2.2.0 will feature automatic, GPU-accelerated video rotation support, extension improvements, resume handling, support for new codecs/formats and rewrites to some of the existing formats, VDPAU GPU zero-copy support, x265 encoder support, etc."

    I have little interest in this. It seems to be performance improvements. As someone who just rolls out VLC in preference to WMP on all my domain-connected machines, some of them with only Intel-video, I don't actually have any performance problems. I have ten times more problems with just random crashes etc. but fortunately VLC is small enough to just load up again. But performance? What I throw at it, gets rendered to the screen.

    So what's new in VLC 3?

    "Further out is VLC 3.0.0, which is planned to have Wayland support, GPU zero-copy support for OpenMAX IL, ARIB subtitle support, HEVC / VP9 hardware decoding on Android, a rework of the MP4 and TS demuxers, and browsing improvements."

    Again, mostly "performance improvements". The support for other formats is unlikely to ever be used by any of my users but that's the reason I use VLC - just throw stuff at it and without needing codec packs, it just plays what it can.

    I'm sure there's someone out there doing 4K on multi-screens and needs a beefy setup and a top-notch bunch of hardware accelerated features. But, to me, I'd rather we didn't have that and instead fixed the crashes in VLC which seem common enough that someone on a VLC team just loading in random web videos all day would hit several a day at least, that they could then start down to road to debug,

    If anything, all this passing off to hardware is probably MORE likely to cause me problems than anything else - no doubt the support won't be perfect and it'll put the onus of rendering properly on the graphics driver rather than the VLC software itself.

    1. Re:Just me? by Narishma · · Score: 3

      Anything with a battery (which is the vast majority of things nowadays) will benefit hugely from hardware acceleration.

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  10. Re:VLC implements this one new trick in their... by kosmosik · · Score: 4, Informative

    > My personal foible: I stop and start videos a lot, and hunting with the slider to find out where I left off is a royal pain

    In the PDF linked from this post there is a slide (on 20th page) showing just that functionality so I guess they wish to add it.

  11. Re:VLC preferences by hackertourist · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I agree that the prefs interface could use improvement, please don't suggest they reduce the number of preferences. I use VLC because it's configurable to my tastes.

  12. Re:Email support by jones_supa · · Score: 2, Informative

    It's funny because SystemD integration of VLC has actually begun.

  13. Bug fixes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    More time spent on more features? How about fixing long standing bugs eg browsing uPnP on Win 7 64bit crashes VLC. Everytime.

    https://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?t=117206

    Been at least 12 months

  14. Hate to piss on the parade... by SkunkPussy · · Score: 2

    ...but its been missing some basic features for years (in the windows and android versions):

    1) preserve playlist between invocations of the programme (playlist resets every time you close vlc)
    2) preserve state of music library as soon as you make changes to it (add music to vlc library, don't close vlc, library never gets saved)

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  15. UPnP/DLNA by ArchieBunker · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I wish they would implement the ability to stream to UPnP devices like a TV over ethernet/wireless. I can't watch movies without the audio compressor plugin. The music and movie sound engineers need to trade places. Going from whispers to ear blasting volumes does not make movies any better. And before you ask no I don't have a surround setup, only left and right Infinity Qe speakers. Surround sound is a cheap gimmick.

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  16. Gapless playback by dogvomit · · Score: 2

    Still no word on gapless playback for audio files? It would be a great music player, but lack of gapless playback is a showstopper. No one can listen to side 2 of Abbey Road with gaps and stay sane.

  17. Not on Linux by HalAtWork · · Score: 2

    Just spent a good deal of time looking for solutions for Linux and I can't seem to find one, that's too bad. SVP is windows-only :(

  18. Blu-ray by phorm · · Score: 2

    I wonder if/when they might get blu-ray support? DVD support has tended to be a gray area for a lot of things, but VLC happily supported it. No such luck for Blu-Ray BD+ yet (I thought it had been cracked, but perhaps not).