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Paramedics Use Google Translate While Delivering Baby

First time accepted submitter myatari writes Irish paramedics transporting a pregnant Congolese woman to a maternity hospital in Cork had to use some quick thinking when the mum-to-be went into labor en-route. The two paramedics (neither of whom speak Swahili) fired up Google Translate to communicate via English-Swahili and successfully delivered baby girl "Brigid" (named after an Irish Saint no less!).

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  1. I'm a Paramedic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ...and I use translation services (either via google, or more usually a paid up telephone translation service provided by my employer) semi-regularly!

    1. Re:I'm a Paramedic... by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 0

      and you get to bill the patient the full cost of 1 year per use.

    2. Re:I'm a Paramedic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and you get to bill the patient the full cost of 1 year per use.

      Not in the NHS (UK based Paramedic), it's all free at the point of access!

    3. Re: I'm a Paramedic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Only in America

    4. Re: I'm a Paramedic... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing is free. I think you mra

  2. Alternative by jhol13 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I wonder what would have happened had they not had Google Translate. A boy?

    1. Re:Alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Twins probably.

    2. Re:Alternative by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Depends on labor conditions. Most likely, the baby would be born normally. But in case of special conditions, where the mother/baby life is at risk, it could be necessary to follow some guidelines taught by a paramedic.

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    3. Re:Alternative by swillden · · Score: 4, Informative

      I wonder what would have happened had they not had Google Translate. A boy?

      Depending on the circumstances, the alternative could have been death of mother and/or baby. The alternative almost certainly would have been an even more unpleasant experience for the mother, with no ability to communicate with the EMTs about her state or the progress of the birth.

      (Now let's see if my AC stalker shows up to crapflood responses to this post, too.)

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    4. Re:Alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hi?

    5. Re:Alternative by Huge_UID · · Score: 1

      You have an AC stalker? How do I get one of those? Hmmm - maybe post more than once every six months...

    6. Re:Alternative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just ask for one. I'm available. I really like your huge urinary intrusion device (UID).

    7. Re:Alternative by swillden · · Score: 1

      You have an AC stalker? How do I get one of those? Hmmm - maybe post more than once every six months...

      I can tell you how I did it... you know those APK crapflood posts, about how hosts files are great and AdBlock is evil? Just respond to a few of those criticizing the crapflooding.

      Enjoy!

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  3. Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    Given that the official language of both Congos (DRC and RC) is French, couldn't they just have tried that?
    Swahili is not a language commonly spoken in either Congo.

    1. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How many ambulance crew where you live speak a second language?

    2. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Swahili is one of the 4 official non-European languages in DRC with approximately 33 million DRC citizens speaking the language.

      So... the story makes sense... kind of. I agree though, French would have been my go-to language for someone from DRC. I've traveled in DRC (eastern side) and French was always the first thing anyone spoke to me.

    3. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Lots... most, if not all.

      Paramedics will speak at least 2, usually 3 or 4... German and English as a bare minimum.

    4. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      All (although not necessarily very well). English is compulsory in school where I live and most people learn at least the basics of a third language.

    5. Re:Would French not have worked? by nm03101 · · Score: 1

      French would have been the more sensible option, but I heard quite a lot of Swahili in markets in RC at least. Maybe she thought it would have a better chance of being understood? From what I understand, giving birth is a little, um, uncomfortable, and you might not think completely straight at the time...

    6. Re:Would French not have worked? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      Since when Irish people speak French???

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    7. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they were in Ireland. They probably spoke Irish as a second language. So now you're complaining that they don't speak 3. Or that their third wasn't French. What educated paramedics you expect to have!

      Probably why the ambulance bill ends up so unexpectedly high.

    8. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Would you believe if I told you that some people actually speak another language besides their native one?

    9. Re:Would French not have worked? by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 2

      Non English speakers speaking English, a lot. English speakers speaking something else: a few.

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    10. Re:Would French not have worked? by Shimbo · · Score: 1

      From the summary, you don't know that she didn't speak French as well. And to be honest, they could probably have delivered the baby, even if she hadn't understood a word they were saying.

    11. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swahili is one of the 4 official non-European languages in DRC with approximately 33 million DRC citizens speaking the language.

      Out of curiosity, has this always been the case (due to RC at least being coastal, and Swahili historically being a language of seafarers), or did it come about since the 1960s due to countries in East Africa (where Swahili is used more widely) taking in refugees from conflicts in the DRC?

    12. Re:Would French not have worked? by dave420 · · Score: 1

      Where you live, maybe. Don't tar every native English speaker with that brush - it doesn't reflect very well on anyone involved.

    13. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Swahili is written phonetically so it might actually be easier for somebody who doesn't know either language to pronounce than french...

    14. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wasn't complaining... I was answering the previous post.. "How many ambulance crew where you live speak a second language?" Where I live... they speak a minimum of 2, and highly likely 4 languages. Just a simple fact. In Ireland? I'd expect.... I dunno.. English?

    15. Re:Would French not have worked? by Threni · · Score: 1

      Dude, they're in Cork.

    16. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Swahili is an old-ish trader language. It has very distinct links to Arabic (lots of common words). It was big in the EA region for a long time in addition to the local/tribal languages. The Germans and British did a lot to bring it into more common use and institutionalized its use in the late 1800s through to around 1930.

      The spread of Swahili into DRC? No clue. Probably just the natural fluid-like progression of languages. Political borders don't always define language groups.

      In terms of use, it makes sense in some regards that the uptake of the language is increasing in DRC... easy to conduct business when you have a common language, and given the countless tribal languages spoken in Africa... having at least one common makes sense. Going international, countries are focusing on English (example, Rwanda used to be primarily French and Kinyarwandan... recently though the government switch grade school focus to English instead of French . Source: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/oct/14/rwanda-france )

    17. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      they do even in Ireland - English

    18. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Since when Irish people speak French???

      You'd be surprised what languages people who live outside the US/UK are open to learning. Most Irish people (including me) who have done 3rd-level education have probably studied another European language apart from English and Irish. Until recently, it was a requirement for entering 3rd-level education. Of those that were in college with me, at least half would have been able to speak enough French to communicate.

    19. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I live, ambulance paramedics speaking three languages would be a minimum. Four languages would be for common.

    20. Re: Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm not sure about you, but I prefer if my paramedic is well educated!

    21. Re:Would French not have worked? by markass530 · · Score: 1

      It's one of a few languages of both the belgian congo and the democratic republic of congo

    22. Re:Would French not have worked? by NotDrWho · · Score: 2

      We have the same requirement in the U.S. (generally a year or two of foreign language in secondary school). But even though French, Spanish, and German were the most common languages taught when I was in school, the odds of two given random people being actually fluent in French are low. And all of this is, of course, assuming that either of the paramedics happened to know that French was a common second language for a Swahili speaker.

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    23. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They would speak Guiness to be sure, to be sure.

    24. Re:Would French not have worked? by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      Was about to say the same. In most parts of the US (I think it's a state-level thing) you need 2 years of a foreign language to enter college. At the college I went to you had to take another 2 semesters of foreign language if you were are liberal arts major. Math/science majors didn't have to take anything over what they had in high school.

      I took 3 years of French in high school (didn't do anymore in college) because it was the only foreign language my high school offerred (which is a bit insane - Spanish IMHO should be the required language these days with others optional). I got to where I could carry on a conversation in French - albeit a basic one.

      Problem is in the US you're not exposed to that language in a natural setting - pretty much ever. ~15 years later now I still remember a decent amount of French words but all the grammar and structure is almost completely gone.

      At this point I'm thinking I may go to the local technical school and take some Spanish classes actually. My love of taco stands has me exposed to that a decent amount. On my own I've gotten to where I can count, place an order, etc in Spanish, but occasionally someone who speaks only Spanish will hear that little bit and try to spark up a conversation and I'm left unable to understand or communicate.

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    25. Re:Would French not have worked? by neoritter · · Score: 1

      The problem is English speakers speaking another language have a whole slew to choose from. Some more helpful than others, but much of that has to do with likelihood of having to use the other language. I should've learned Spanish instead of French in high school, because I'm more likely to come into contact with that language. But someone in say England, might want to learn French over Spanish due to proximity to France. And someone from New Zealand might want to learn Maori.

    26. Re:Would French not have worked? by MightyYar · · Score: 1

      But how would they know where it was going to come out from?

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    27. Re:Would French not have worked? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 1

      Where I live, ambulance paramedics speaking three languages would be a minimum. Four languages would be for common.

      Where I live, most EMTs speak two languages, English and bad English.

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    28. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why are you talking about the French language?

    29. Re:Would French not have worked? by beerdragoon · · Score: 1

      Just like any other country, some people do and some people don't. Did the two paramedics? Did the woman? I'd like to think that both parties would have tried any/all the languages they knew before resorting to Google translate.

    30. Re:Would French not have worked? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where I live, ambulance paramedics speaking three languages would be a minimum. Four languages would be for common.

      And yet, you don't bother mentioning where that is.

    31. Re:Would French not have worked? by erice · · Score: 1

      They may have tried that but her French wasn't that good or the accents were mutually unintelligible.

      That French is the official language does not guarantee perfect fluency and certainly does not mean that French is her native language. It almost certainly is not.

      A given African country will have many languages. Educated Africans typically speak several languages with varying fluency. The Congolese woman would be most fluent in her tribal language but they may not be in Google Translate and it would be difficult for the paramedics to figure out which one it is anyway. Swahili was probably a fortunate guess after French didn't work well.

    32. Re:Would French not have worked? by grcumb · · Score: 1

      Dude, they're in Cork.

      EXACTLY.

      It's a miracle they can speak at all. :-)

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    33. Re:Would French not have worked? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

      Some more information would be useful. I'm going to guess that she spoke into the device and auto-detect picked up Swahili.

  4. As a neurologist... by MPAB · · Score: 1

    I use google translate pretty often with my foreign patients. My practice is located in the coast of Spain and even though I also speak french and german, sometimes I must deal with scandinavians, russians and eastern europeans.

    1. Re:As a neurologist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just a hint when dealing with us Scandinavians: Use English. If the person is not an older one, they very probably can at least understand it, if not speak. English has been a mandatory subject in our schools for years and years :)

    2. Re:As a neurologist... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Just a hint when dealing with us Scandinavians: Use English. If the person is not an older one, they very probably can at least understand it, if not speak. English has been a mandatory subject in our schools for years and years :)

      Most of Scandinavians (or at least Finns) in Spain are retired persons with mostly very minimal education. Retired move Spain to evade welfare state taxes.

  5. My hovercraft is full of eels by Ranger · · Score: 1

    It's great that it worked out for them, but sometimes translations don't come out quite right.

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    1. Re:My hovercraft is full of eels by dissy · · Score: 2

      My hovercraft is full of eels
      *Runs google translate*

      Ooh, why of course. *hands ranger some matches*

      It's great that it worked out for them, but sometimes translations don't come out quite right.
      *Runs google translate*

      Wait, you want WHAT to come out of my nipples?!?

    2. Re:My hovercraft is full of eels by Opportunist · · Score: 2

      This.

      I can't say anything about the quality of google translate when it comes to Swahili. But usually when the languages are to some degree different (like, say, anything European to anything Far East and vv), you usually end up with something that makes little, if any, sense. If you want to see for yourself, go to any Chinese website, take the text there and paste it into Google translate and take a wild guess what the article is about.

      It can work out if you don't want to transport complex, nuanced meaning (e.g. when yelling "push now!"), though even that can become a mess in translation. In German, for example, you don't push. You press. IIRC in Russian asking her to "push" would probably well translate into asking her to punch you. A request a woman in this condition would probably fulfill gladly.

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    3. Re:My hovercraft is full of eels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      P'Taq!

    4. Re:My hovercraft is full of eels by Zordak · · Score: 1

      True story. You're welcome.

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    5. Re:My hovercraft is full of eels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      petaQ!

  6. google tranlate is quite good... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
    I have a few friends in Europe on facebook. Unfortunately, facebook defaults to bing for translations, and bing's translations are pretty poor.

    .

    The google translations are a lot better, but I found out that if I go from, say french to arabic to english, instead of directly from french to english, the idioms seem to be translated better.

    go figure......

    1. Re:google tranlate is quite good... by QuietLagoon · · Score: 1
      google tranlate is quite good

      Obviously, it is better than my spelling. :)

    2. Re:google tranlate is quite good... by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

      I have a few friends in Europe on facebook. Unfortunately, facebook defaults to bing for translations, and bing's translations are pretty poor.

      Facebook favors Bing over Google for the wrong reasons.

      The google translations are a lot better, but I found out that if I go from, say french to arabic to english, instead of directly from french to english, the idioms seem to be translated better

      Try English => Japanese => English, you'll be surprised ....

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    3. Re:google tranlate is quite good... by Carl+Drougge · · Score: 1

      Google translate is possibly hillarious, but good? Let's try something I saw recently:

      The letters are your own business.

      google translate to Swedish:

      Bokstäverna är ditt eget företag.

      or German if you prefer:

      Die Buchstaben sind Ihr eigenes Geschäft

      and then I'll translate it back to English for you using my brain (the Swedish and German mean the same thing, I'm fairly sure, though I don't speak German):

      The ABCs are your own corporation.

      That's not good, that's incomprehensible. You have to know that these words are the same in English to have a chance of understanding it.

    4. Re:google tranlate is quite good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well if the original sentence was comprehensible in English I would agree with you. Alas it is not.

    5. Re:google tranlate is quite good... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The German version is only sort of similar. While "GeschÃft" also mean "business", this sentence rather reads like "The letters (as in ABC, not as in mail) are your own shop".

  7. So by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... use some quick thinking ...

    Rational thought and ubiquitous technology solve a problem. News at 11.

  8. Nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Based in Finland, I've used google translate several times when communicating face-to-face with our Russian neighbours ... in case they do not speak english.

    It has always worked fine and I've made the sale every time :)

  9. Re:Stupid religious claptrap by ruir · · Score: 1

    As an atheist, fuck for having stupidity and fairy tales mixed with "news".

  10. re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm a husband and I feel that google translate is missing the most important language: "english"->"wife". When she says "Do I look ok in this dress?" and I say "yep.", she seems to hear something different.

    It'd help clear up many misunderstandings.

  11. Would French not have worked? by bazmail · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    No. Apparently the lady spoke Swahili not French. Did you even read the summary you moron?

  12. Re:I'm sure they delivered a future Nobel Laureate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It was great to hear your well-formed opinion too, Mr. Crusty Cynic.

  13. Re:I'm sure they delivered a future Nobel Laureate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Actually I am pretty sure they delivered a future Nobel Laureate. How is your Nobel Laureate goal coming up BTW?

  14. Re:It's genocide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry - Congolese woman, not Somalian. The point is exactly the same.

  15. Re:It's genocide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should learn to read. How did you get from Congolese to Somalia?

  16. Re:Stupid religious claptrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because of how they named a baby, you wish an entire family and the doctors that treated them died?
    Because they named it the same name as some historical human?
    You reflect poorly on athiesm.

  17. alternate spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google translate helps immigrants to usurp the locals.

    1. Re:alternate spin by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean, google translate helps locals to integrate into the immigrant community?

  18. Re:Stupid religious claptrap by ruir · · Score: 1

    it is not me hiding behing AC. About "historical" a big meh. Almost every name as a pagan/"saint" related to. It is just the stupidity of translating hey great, given a saint/Christian name instead of an African one. Do you want me to elaborate more on that?

  19. Re:Correction by hcs_$reboot · · Score: 1

    Shouldn't the title say "Veterinarians Use Google Translate While Delivering Baby"?

    This is stupid for at least two reasons. The first reason you know well, and this is why you hide behind an AC. The second reason is because Google Translate only translates to human languages and even though, in a different story, the subject would be an animal, instead of a Woman as it is in TFS/TFA, G.T. would be of no use.

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  20. Re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm a husband and I feel that google translate is missing the most important language: "english"->"wife". When she says "Do I look ok in this dress?" and I say "yep.", she seems to hear something different.

    It'd help clear up many misunderstandings.

    Ah, the typical "insecure wife" bullshit. Your mistake is to try to deal with it.
    If you want it to stop. Whenever she starts some bullshit, just leave. Don't say anything. Go for a one hour walk or whatever.

  21. The implications of "and" by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 1

    The two paramedics (neither of whom speak Swahili) fired up Google Translate to communicate via English-Swahili and successfully delivered baby girl "Brigid" (named after an Irish Saint no less!).

    There's a bit of an unwritten implication in that use of the word "and," but I suspect the paramedics would probably have been able to deliver the baby without Google's help.

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  22. Brigid? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Brigid, or in the local spelling "Mhroughairidd".

    1. Re:Brigid? by tinkerghost · · Score: 3, Funny

      Brigid, or in the local spelling "Mhroughairidd".

      I'm sorry, there are vowels in that. It's obviously misspelled.

    2. Re:Brigid? by nmr_andrew · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry, you're confusing Irish with Welsh.

  23. Forgive me, Sirs... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...but I thought DR Congo was an inherently medically qualified country, with all residents capable of delivering their own children, providing they had a steady supply of Um Bongo.

  24. Re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Ah, the typical "insecure wife" bullshit. Your mistake is to try to deal with it.
    If you want it to stop. Whenever she starts some bullshit, just leave. Don't say anything. Go for a one hour walk or whatever.

    ... said the non-married man.

  25. Re: It's genocide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is an african woman giving birth in Cork? Because the bottle was empty.

  26. Re: google translate by cdrudge · · Score: 3, Funny

    The trick is that you give her an answer but not an answer to specifically her question, and then shift it to a different conversation. For instance:

    Wife: Honey, do I look ok in this dress?
    Husband: Babe, you look great in everything but even better out of it.

    If you follow it up with trying to get her out of it, and do it enough times, eventually she'll start to ask you less. Or at least that is what I hope will someday happen with my wife.

  27. Re: google translate by complete+loony · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Do I look ok in this dress?

    "Ok? No, you look amazing. I can't wait to get you out of it."
    "That dress is ok, but it would look better on the floor."

    Don't answer yes or no. Remind her of how easily she can wrap you around her little finger.

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  28. In the beginning... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Google translate can be pretty useful at the conception stage too.

  29. not nearly as dramatic but by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    yrs ago we had a crew replacing siding on our house that stopped & refused to go back to work b/c they saw a snake. I was able to use google translate w/my laptop to show them there's only a few venomous species in georgia & this wasn't one of them (was actually able to identify it - their descriptions led to finding a picture & a bunch of: "oh, si! no est problema! gracias!"

    I remember thinking "wow! what an amazing world we live in now!"

  30. A story of Saint Brigid. by XNormal · · Score: 5, Funny

    "A certain woman who had taken the vow of chastity fell, through youthful desire of pleasure and her womb swelled with child. Brigid, exercising the most potent strength of her ineffable faith, blessed her, causing the child to disappear, without coming to birth, and without pain. She faithfully returned the woman to health and to penance."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Brigid

    Was the mother of that child trying to hint something with that choice of name?

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    1. Re:A story of Saint Brigid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Saint Brigid's abortion doesn't seem consistent with current Catholic beliefs.

    2. Re:A story of Saint Brigid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Almost certainly an apocryphal tale. A real female Irish saint would have been named "Frigid".

    3. Re:A story of Saint Brigid. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where did you think Jesus came from? He was touched by an angel while in the womb and wound up in a different womb.

    4. Re:A story of Saint Brigid. by mjwx · · Score: 1

      "A certain woman who had taken the vow of chastity fell, through youthful desire of pleasure and her womb swelled with child. Brigid, exercising the most potent strength of her ineffable faith, blessed her, causing the child to disappear, without coming to birth, and without pain. She faithfully returned the woman to health and to penance."

      And abortion is illegal in Ireland.

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  31. Re: google translate by dj245 · · Score: 1

    I'm a husband and I feel that google translate is missing the most important language: "english"->"wife". When she says "Do I look ok in this dress?" and I say "yep.", she seems to hear something different.

    It'd help clear up many misunderstandings.

    Jokes aside, men misunderstand the question. Men hear "Question! Please respond to my question!" when in fact, the words the woman spoke are not a question at all. These words are an invitation to a conversation about style and fashion. The woman is angry that the man dismissed her invitation to have a discussion. The question is irrelevant.

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  32. Re: google translate by hodet · · Score: 1

    Wife: "Honey does this dress make me look fat?"

    Husband: "No baby, not at all, it's your big ass that does that."

  33. Re: google translate by hodet · · Score: 1

    Ya, ok, that will work.

  34. PR by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    can't buy this kind of PR. I expect a commercial in the near future.

  35. Re: google translate by hodet · · Score: 1

    I'm taking notes.

  36. Re:Stupid religious claptrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't blame you. That freaking country killed a lady in the name of religion by not providing proper care. What good is religion when it cannot have any respect for human life http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D...

  37. Re:It's genocide... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You should learn how to rebut somebody's argument... Nice try at avoiding the issue though.
    So you believe that white people don't have the right to simple live around their own race, nor the right to simply have their own countries, yet all other races DO have that right, according to you? Ignorant cretin.

  38. Re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it does. you just have to have some spine

  39. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by neoritter · · Score: 1

    Cherokee wasn't the only Native American language (ignoring that it's actually a form of Iroquois to boot) on the continent... while funny, XKCD is not some arbiter of righteous thought. While the other AC is certainly extreme in his opinion, the notion that citizens should all speak at least one language in common is a necessary part of democracy and free enlightened society. If people can't communicate than the transference of ideas is hampered. Further, lack of communication and ability to socialize with groups of people leads to a less intermixed society. The results of that are pretty obvious; discrimination, lack of national unity, lack of empathy, etc. Further, people from groups who can not communicate with the broader spectrum of a nation's society are left out of the national dialogue, their concerns and ideas may not be considered when debating national policy. Another possibility, and in some ways a worse one, is that they're voice as it were is appropriated by another person or group to further their own agenda.

  40. So, are we going to ... by PPH · · Score: 1

    ... name this service GooGoo?

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  41. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    "Lack of national unity" isn't necessarily a bad thing.

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  42. Re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go back to the MRA hole you crawled out of, tough guy.

  43. Brigid by tverbeek · · Score: 1

    "Brigid" (named after an Irish Saint no less!).

    Or maybe the Irish goddess.

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  44. Re:Stupid religious claptrap by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How did Celtic paganism harm human progress? (Because that's where the name "Brigid" comes from.)

    As an atheist, I'm glad that everyone lived.

  45. Re: google translate by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

    if (dress.price > 100.00) {
        return "That dress makes you look fat.";
    }

  46. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by neoritter · · Score: 2

    To a certain extent no it's not. But if a country becomes too fractured, it can no longer function as a country serving all its people. Iraq is kind of an example of this. Tensions between Sunni/Shia/Kurds has led to an inability of the Iraqi government to adequately hold these groups together. And has allowed for the severe persecution of minorities, like the Yazidis.

    Heterogeneous societies require a certain level of national unity to competently function.

  47. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by aevan · · Score: 1

    Didn't the Indians go to North America because they didn't want to learn Chinese?

  48. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    The new mother should really learn Irish as it is the official national language!

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  49. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    You were doing OK there until you typed 'they're'. Next!

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  50. Inquiring Minds Want to Know by Tokolosh · · Score: 1

    Can this be used for making babies?

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  51. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by hairyfeet · · Score: 1

    Not to mention it can leave the group that refuses to at least learn isolated which in turn limits their chances for advancement. For example in my area there is two groups that refuse to speak anything but their native tongue, the Mexicans and the Ebonic speaking black neighborhood. In both cases they live in ghettos, complete with higher crime and drug abuse. in both cases they will never be hired in any job which in any way has any interaction with the public (for obvious reasons) which limits their chances for employment. In both cases the jobs they CAN get always end up being the dead end minimum wage jobs, and in both cases whenever I've had to work a job at a place where any of them had been hired it quickly became obvious that they were looked down upon because their coworkers couldn't understand them and they refused to even attempt to learn enough job specific English to facilitate ease of communication while working.

    So ultimately by refusing to interact with those around them its the ones that refuse to adapt to the common language that are hurt the most. Oh and before somebody screams "that's raciss!" over the Ebonics? Just try looking up a southern Ebonics speaker video and see how many words you can understand before you get lost, between the region specific nature of the slang combined with the unconventional usage of certain words (such as the way the word "be" can be past, present, and future tense) it quickly becomes like that scene in Airplane! where they had to get the woman that spoke jive to translate.

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  52. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by Crosshair84 · · Score: 1

    Why do people like you see ignorance as a virtue?

    If a person kept a child from learning to talk we would see that as abuse and neglect.

    If a person kept a child from learning to read we would see that as abuse and neglect.

    When a person willfully neglects from learning the local language of the place they live, that is them neglecting themselves.

    People who willfully neglect to take care of those they are responsible for are rightfully looked down upon in effectively every society. Those who willfully neglect themselves in such fundamental ways are within that category and worthy of the utmost contempt.

  53. Re: google translate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Here how to say it correctly:

    You look like a mules butt.... of course you look beautiful, you look as beautiful as the day I found you... at the farm!

  54. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    I'm not entirely sure Iraq should be called a country. That's only slightly facetious.

    Like Yugoslavia and Czechoslovakia, it was created by treaties between other countries. Czechoslovakia worked out OK (now Slovakia and the Czech Republic) but Yugoslavia fared badly when the colonial power withdrew.

    The same could be said for many of the nations of Africa with bloody post-colonial histories.

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  55. Re:Please take your ignorant attitude somewhere el by neoritter · · Score: 1

    They're a country, they're a political entity that has borders that are recognized by other countries. The countries you listed were still countries, and they too would fit into my argument. You had multiple strong cultural or political identities that were unwilling or unable to interact civilly with each other. The result is always a break up, usually preceded by a civil war.

    Language doesn't dictate that such things like that would happen, but it usually doesn't help. India may be an example of a country with multiple languages (hundreds if not thousands of sub dialects) and the ability to stay intact. But India has mandated a national language. They also have a strong cultural identity.

    The United States does not have these things. We have an amorphous cultural identity based on intangible political and philosophical beliefs. We don't have a national language; and a part of our national identity comes from the notion that established institutions and norms are always up to being uprooted and replaced. You can't make the kind of structural redesign that our founding fathers intended when the populace is unable, or unwilling, to adequately communicate their ideas with each other.

  56. "country" as distinct from "nation" by eric_harris_76 · · Score: 1

    My point, which apparently I did not make very clearly, is that nations created as administrative units by empires (e.g. Rwanda) and which later gain independence, and those created in peace treaties (e.g. Yugoslavia) tend to have bloody histories after the colonial powers withdraw.

    Countries created by federation (e.g. the 13 colonies of the United States of America, Switzerland) or annexation/consolidation (e.g. the USA, the UK excluding Ireland) tend to be less troubled by ethnic and/or religious conflicts.

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  57. swillden = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "you know those APK crapflood posts, about how hosts files are great and AdBlock is evil? Just respond to a few of those criticizing the crapflooding." - by swillden (191260) on Thursday February 12, 2015 @04:37PM (#49041997) Homepage

    See subject: swillden ran 7x http://slashdot.org/comments.p... vs. myself... & WHO started up with me 1st? Swillden -> http://yro.slashdot.org/commen...

    * Care to tell us WHY Google removed hosts files in ANDROID KitKat or better, Mr. WANNABE "security engineer"? Your security in ANDROID blows in case you haven't noticed... must be YOUR "fine handiwork"!

    Hahahahahaha!

    (If you'd quit trolling others, like myself as shown in the 2nd link above, then, MAYBE, you'd have the time to do ANDROID security right vs. the mess you have now, eh? LOL... & removing hosts didn't help, now did it?? Nope! Hosts aid security if anything (+ speed, & reliability online also)).

    APK

    P.S.=> If you're indicative of the WEASELS Google's hiring (allegedly in your case, somehow I DOUBT you have a B.S. or better in Comp. Sci. & Math as you claim)? They're in DEEP shit... apk

    1. Re:swillden = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" by swillden · · Score: 1

      He's back!

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    2. Re:swillden = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're still running from apk swillden http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... from apk (so much for your allegedly working for Google or being a 20 yrs software developer too with a CS degree when you and google both obviously fear hosts files and you're both unable to combat them validly on a technical level instead removing them from your ANDROID smartphones KitKat onwards and sending a stooge like you to get your ass handed to you in eating your words vs. apk per the link above and here http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... where he took you on and you ran swillden, after you trolled him first here http://yro.slashdot.org/commen... . We can read swillden. You're online scum, nothing more).