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EFF: Hundreds of S. Carolina Prisoners Sent To Solitary For Social Media Use

According to the EFF's Deep LInks, Through a request under South Carolina’s Freedom of Information Act, EFF found that, over the last three years, prison officials have brought more than 400 hundred disciplinary cases for "social networking" — almost always for using Facebook. The offenses come with heavy penalties, such as years in solitary confinement and deprivation of virtually all privileges, including visitation and telephone access. In 16 cases, inmates were sentenced to more than a decade in what’s called disciplinary detention, with at least one inmate receiving more than 37 years in isolation. ... The sentences are so long because SCDC issues a separate Level 1 violation for each day that an inmate accesses a social network. An inmate who posts five status updates over five days, would receive five separate Level 1 violations, while an inmate who posted 100 updates in one day would receive only one. In other words, if a South Carolina inmate caused a riot, took three hostages, murdered them, stole their clothes, and then escaped, he could still wind up with fewer Level 1 offenses than an inmate who updated Facebook every day for two weeks.

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  1. Unequal application of the law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    When can we start punishing non-inmates for this offense?

    1. Re:Unequal application of the law by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Society needs its demons.

      I've repeated this numerous times, and I'll repeat it again: Few people are interested in actual justice. Most of them just want somebody that they can publicly rail against for the sole purpose of making themselves feel righteous. It has nothing to do with righting any wrong.

      It's not just the police, the prison guards, or the judges that are guilty of it. It's a systemic problem. Some of the worst bullies I've seen are those who target supposed bullies.

    2. Re:Unequal application of the law by ArmoredDragon · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Bullshit. Her tweet was making light of our first world bubble. It wasn't worded quite well, but when you look at the context based on her other tweets, it's very self evident.

      All of us have said stupid things now and then. Every last one of us. Nobody deserves to have their lives ruined over just one sentence. As the article linked mentions, some historical figures ended the practice of public shaming because they found many cases where it is measurably worse than a death sentence.

      That isn't justice. People like you who espouse such an outcome don't give a shit about justice. Your only motivation is to make yourself feel righteous at their expense, and righting a wrong never comes into play.

    3. Re:Unequal application of the law by unixisc · · Score: 3, Funny

      When can we start punishing non-inmates for this offense?

      EFF may back these prisoners using FaceBook. But if RMS, who is a major backer of EFF, had his way, then the prisoners are being made to do exactly what he wants everybody to do - avoid FaceBook. Had EFF checked w/ RMS, he'd have told them that this is a good thing.

      The proper solution to this would be to sentence SC prisoners to deal only w/ GNU Social. Which is GNU's AGPL3 licensed social networking site. Prison officials should provide them computers that can only access that, and maybe eliminate browsers from the computers being used. Heck, let's provide all prisoners w/ Libre-Linux computers running only GPL3 software, and then tell them that that's all they're allowed to use.

      After all, they are prisoners for a reason. };-)

    4. Re:Unequal application of the law by diamondmagic · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bullshit. Words don't make a person racist, actions do.

      And stop pretending to get offended on other people's behalf. It's condesending.

    5. Re:Unequal application of the law by dywolf · · Score: 2

      It was satire you dolt. It was a send up of the so-called first world bubble, the ignorant American.
      someone outside her small social circle saw it, took it out of context, and ruined her life for it.

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    6. Re:Unequal application of the law by squiggleslash · · Score: 2

      This is an impressive display of putting words into people's mouths. You are aware there's a massive difference between someone saying "I think it'd be better if people did X and didn't do Y" and them saying "People should be forced to do X, and punished for doing Y"?

      I'd say you don't understand nuance, but this isn't even at that level. It's a ludicrously over the top mis-extrapolation of someone's views. This kind of "debate", a refusal to listen to what people actually say, and attempts to make them look ridiculous by deliberately misrepresenting their views, is why we can't have nice things.

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  2. When did facebook become a right? by damn_registrars · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't see why inmates need access to it at all. They can find plenty of other ways to not be productive.

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    1. Re:When did facebook become a right? by jandrese · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Like being in prison?

      Looks to me like they're already disallowed Facebook access, since it lands them in Solitary. I'm guessing this is mostly a "covert communication with the outside" type violation though. The prisons are trying to prevent gang leaders/drug lords/etc... from running their empires while locked up. Plus, they don't get to rip off the prisoners with their massively inflated telephone fees.

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    2. Re:When did facebook become a right? by buchner.johannes · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't see why inmates need access to it at all. They can find plenty of other ways to not be productive.

      When did Social Media use become an offense? If you can have visitors and make phone calls, why not Internet access. Or vice versa, if you are in solitary confinement, why did they have internet access?

      And what on Earth is the point in punishing this? Who gains anything by punishment?

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    3. Re:When did facebook become a right? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Therefore, accessing a social media site should result in a decade or more of additional punishment. QED, amiright?

    4. Re:When did facebook become a right? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I don't see why inmates need access to it at all.

      Because social connections reduce recidivism.

      America imprisons more people than any other country. On a per-capita basis we imprison more than Russia, Saudia Arabia, Cuba, and four times as many as China. We spend more on prisons than the rest of the world combined. Yet we have one of the worse recidivism rates. It would be hard to design a dumber system even if you tried. Enforcing social isolation just makes it even worse.

    5. Re:When did facebook become a right? by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      When did facebook become a right?

      I don't think anyone's saying it should be, are they?

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    6. Re:When did facebook become a right? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 4, Insightful

      "Who gains anything by punishment?"

      The privatized prison system can then charge more for the offender as the stay has been extended.

      To OP there that thinks it's so they can't run a criminal business, in some form or another gang leaders have been running their organizations from behind bars in some cases decades before the creation of the internet.

      What's the difference?

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    7. Re:When did facebook become a right? by JoeIsuzu83 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      America imprisons more people than any other country. On a per-capita basis we imprison more than Russia, Saudia Arabia, Cuba, and four times as many as China. We spend more on prisons than the rest of the world combined. Yet we have one of the worse recidivism rates. It would be hard to design a dumber system even if you tried. Enforcing social isolation just makes it even worse.

      Excellent point. So maybe if we just replicate the prison conditions of Russia, Saudi Arabia, Cuba, and China--
      Would that reduce recidivism? Goodbye, Facebook!

    8. Re:When did facebook become a right? by g0bshiTe · · Score: 3, Informative

      Also it looks like we aren't just talking of using a common computer, this may be more about contraband cell phones.

      http://charlestonthuglife.net/...

      This is the guy mentioned that got 37.5 years solitary.

      http://charlestonthuglife.net/...

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    9. Re:When did facebook become a right? by ShaunC · · Score: 4, Funny

      Then Facebook access would be monitored like phone calls.

      We're talking about the Land of the Free, here. Facebook access is already monitored like phone calls. You don't even have to be in prison.

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    10. Re:When did facebook become a right? by aberglas · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Reducing recidivism is un-American, because it works against the greatest prison system in the world.

    11. Re:When did facebook become a right? by rmdingler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I'm guessing this is mostly a "covert communication with the outside" type violation though. The prisons are trying to prevent gang leaders/drug lords/etc... from running their empires while locked up.

      Not to mention, those who would harass the victims of their crimes or plot escape with outside help. There are some serious considerations involved in the social ostracism of convicts.

      To be fair, there are undoubtedly folks in prison for victimless crimes.

      The thing is, there are some real deal malevolent maternal copulaters who richly deserve to be there. It's difficult enough to make rules in society that are fair to everyone, and the prison systems are not run by folks who will suffer much insomnia for applying rules that err on the side of caution.

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    12. Re:When did facebook become a right? by CrimsonAvenger · · Score: 5, Informative

      The private prisons, of course. 48 out of 50 states have a contract stating they will keep 90% or more bed occupancy or else face fines.

      Well, no.

      27 States have one or more privately operated prisons.

      The 48 (and 90%) number(s) comes from a letter sent to 48 governors OFFERING to buy and run their prison systems privately.

      And NONE of the States accepted the offer. not one.

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    13. Re:When did facebook become a right? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      Including China isn't telling because China executes a lot of people.

      China executes a few hundred people per year.
      America imprisons a few million people.

    14. Re:When did facebook become a right? by gl4ss · · Score: 2

      actually, you could still end up with less prisoners? which is kind of funny since those countries are known to put people in prison just for having an opinion and have even stricter drug/substance laws..

      were they using the facebook access to run a gang and to arrange mass murders? no? don't add 100 years to their sentence then if you don't want outsiders to think you have a fucked up justice system. ...actually is the result of the piss poor justice system you have from start to end, including prosecutor deals, parallel construction, too little of police training, too little of prison personnel training.. it's like USA is a third world country when it comes to these things - claiming to be one of the richest countries in the world and with most resources and yet they can't afford to train the police 5 years before giving them permit to go around patrolling alone with instructions to shoot(to kill) if they feel threatened.

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  3. Why is this a big deal? by ZorinLynx · · Score: 2

    How is communicating on Facebook different than making phone calls or sending letters to the outside world?

    1. Re:Why is this a big deal? by nospam007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      "How is communicating on Facebook different than making phone calls or sending letters to the outside world?"

      Ads for prison clothing.

    2. Re:Why is this a big deal? by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      How is communicating on Facebook different than making phone calls or sending letters to the outside world?

      Those are also restricted for many prisoners.

  4. How by irrational_design · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How in the world are they posting to facebook? Are they using smuggled in devices, or are they using devices provided by the prison system? If the later, why don't they just block access to facebook at a level where the inmates can't override it?

    1. Re:How by irrational_design · · Score: 4, Informative

      Nevermind. Who would have thought the article would actually have useful information? "Some inmates ask their families to access their online accounts for them, while many access the Internet themselves through a contraband cell phone (possession of which is yet another Level 1 offense)." Having the inmates be punished for something someone does on the outside seems ridiculous. Though, the prison authorities probably don't know whether it was done by someone on the outside or by a contraband device, so they appear to be assuming that it must be happening via a contraband device.

    2. Re:How by medv4380 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So if I create a fake facebook page for each of their inmates and have each of them auto update the status once a day then they'll never get out of jail?

    3. Re:How by Etherwalk · · Score: 2

      Having the inmates be punished for something someone does on the outside seems ridiculous.

      It's not ridiculous at all.

      The family member is being used as a courier.

      The family member can be used as a courier.

      It is ridiculous in some situations and not others.

    4. Re:How by irrational_design · · Score: 2

      That's true. But, the family member/friend might know the inmates password (or might share an account with them) and be posting without their knowledge. I have teenage daughters, and despite my frequent warnings, they share their passwords with their friends, and vice versa. So the inmate would be punished for something they have no control over.

  5. Unsupervised Communication by bondsbw · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Usage of social media is equivalent to unsupervised communication with people outside the prison walls. To my knowledge this has always been a big deal and whatever technology is used shouldn't make much of a difference in punishment. Even seemingly innocent communications can be forms of steganography.

    Also, I'm pretty sure inmates who commit murder will be charged with murder.

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  6. It's what you do with it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What the sensational article deliberately ignores is what these prisoners were doing ... running gangs on smuggled phones.

    1. Re:It's what you do with it by dywolf · · Score: 2

      Ah but you forget. The current jurisprudence is to throw everything at them and see what sticks....and if it just so happens to be everything and they get a 10000 year sentence as a result.... oh well.

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  7. Fluf story by Dorianny · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The offense is unauthorized communications. Facebook posts are convenient proof of that offense. Someone with access to a telecommunications device could be ordering gangland hits just as easily as liking someone on Facebook.

  8. Superfluous, disproportionate punishment by kheldan · · Score: 2

    Three things:
    1. This really is a punishment grossly disproportionate with the magnitude of the rule broken.
    2. If they don't want them using Facebook, then why isn't it blocked on all computers that inmates have access to?
    3. Using Facebook is punishment enough in and of itself, why add insult to injury over it?

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  9. 37 Years??? by Random+Nobody · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I assume they mean solitary when they say isolation. I don't care what "crime" these cons did on the inside, unless you're talking about Magneto and his plastic cell no one should be in solitary for 37 years.

    Long term use of the SHU seems to be used as punishment, or more appropriately a form of torture. I can barely imagine the psychological and physical damage of being in the SHU for that long. We may as well be blasting loud music 24/7 and practice forced feedings while we're at it.

    If you're so worried about communicating outside the prison and apparently unable to control smartphones from getting inside then maybe you should start looking at Faraday cages or jamming signals. I'm sure the FCC would give an exception given enough proof that these communications were actually resulting in gang activity.

  10. Big Business by ArchieBunker · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I used to think that inmates talking about prison being a business was bullshit. Then I see how many prisons are privately run and how deals are made to keep that at a certain capacity. Then think of all the support companies that sell items to prisons (clothing, food, equipment, employees, etc etc). Then you look at the incarceration rate of the USA compared to other countries and it all becomes clear.

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  11. Misleading information... by itwasgreektome · · Score: 2

    All the Level 1 offenses in the world can't make their prison stay LONGER than what they were originally sentenced for. It just makes their time in prison more boring- it's punishment because they shouldn't have access to phones in the first place, because inmates run their gangs and can make hits on officers and civilians from behind prison walls using the internet. So the comparison between an Inmate accessing facebook for 2 weeks getting more severe punishment than an inmate who murders people is ludicrous- because the person who murders people and then runs away will be charged with several different counts and will get MORE prison time, whereas the dude who accessed Facebook will keep his original sentence.

  12. Jam Cell Signals in Prisons by breaddoughrising · · Score: 2

    I never understood why prisons are mandated to install cell jammers around the entire prison. This simple solution would a) prevent violent and dangerous criminals from being able to communicate with cohorts outside of prison, and b) prevent corrupt guards from profiting through providing criminals with cellular contraband.

    1. Re:Jam Cell Signals in Prisons by Firethorn · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Probably not. It seems that he was talking in generals, not going for a sarcastic implication that the guards are incompetent.

      Besides corrupt and incompetent guards you also have inmates and outside conspirators who get incredibly creative in their efforts to smuggle stuff into prisons.

      Prisoner anuses is only one of many vectors. In one case they had a cat trained to travel between the outside and inside with the contraband tied to her collar. She got food on both ends. A CAT!!! They trained a bloody CAT to run stuff!

      They've also found devices being floated by balloon, launched by catapult and pneumatic launchers, trawled up backwards through the sewer system, etc...

      Imagine that you're trying to keep several hundred bored engineering college students from doing something. How well is that going to work? The average inmate intelligence might be less, but you do have quite a few intelligent ones in there, and really, what else are they going to do?

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  13. Can't prisoners mail out letters? by Dr.+Spork · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I know this sounds terribly traditional, but what could be wrong with sending a friend a letter in which you give instructions to post an update to social media on your behalf? I'm sure that all letters from prison would be read to make sure they're not carrying out something illegal, but it's not illegal for the friend to post an online update, right?

    Or how about this: The friend starts a blog called "Letters From Sam in Jail" and just posts a scan of each letter received. That's a clear case where the prisoner is (indirectly) blogging, but nobody is doing something wrong. Right?

  14. Pelican Bay status updates by Tailhook · · Score: 4, Funny

    4:30PM: wrapping shank handle
    6:00PM: meat balls cold noodles
    1:00AM: hooked sum smokes from the line
    1:01AM: i hate menthol
    2:24PM: finished shank! check teh pic itz bad ass
    4:01PM: lawyer sez my appeal isup next week. coolz
    7:10PM: sharpen shank. it was sharp but lolz
    9:00AM: powdered eggs again
    1:15PM: emilio took the shank :( :( :( :( fucking hate that puta
    6:05PM: meat balls rice

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  15. Re:Good. by Firethorn · · Score: 4, Insightful

    It is supposed to take that person out of society because society doesn't want them. Letting them back in through social media defeats the purpose.

    The issue is quite a bit more complex than that. For example, there are THREE primary goals/duties for prisons:
    1. Punish, as you said.
    2. Warehouse - prevent more crime by isolating the individual from the rest of us
    3. Reform - because they most likely get out sometime, we need to fix whatever causes them to be criminal in the first place, if possible.

    You have to balance the three duties, and I'd argue that the US system needs to add a hefty dose of #3, and social media, communication can help *a lot* with this. The vast majority of prisoners are NOT drug kingpins who will order hits from prison if they're allowed to communicate with the outside.

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  16. Re:If you can't do the time by Opportunist · · Score: 2, Insightful

    If you can hide your crime, you won't do the time.

    Illegal is defined by what you can get caught for.

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  17. Re:First we need to outlaw South Carolina. by EmagGeek · · Score: 2

    South Carolina attempted to oblige once. Why didn't y'all just let them?