Slashdot Mirror
Russian Man Extradited To US For Heartland, Dow Jones Cyberattacks
itwbennett writes: A Russian man accused of high-profile cyberattacks on Nasdaq, Dow Jones, Heartland Payment Systems and 7-Eleven has been extradited to the U.S. and appeared in court in Newark, New Jersey on Tuesday. Vladimir Drinkman, 34, of Syktyykar and Moscow, Russia was charged for his alleged role in a data theft conspiracy that targeted major corporate networks and stole more than 160 million credit card numbers, the U.S. Department of Justice said in a press release. Drinkman appeared Tuesday in U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey and entered a plea of not guilty to the 11 counts he faces. His trial is scheduled to begin in April.
See subject...
I couldn't tell from the story - was he actually extradited by Russia? If so, I'm really surprised they're welling to extradite anyone to us these days.
While not a fan of anything much the US does. The US did not arrest him, he was arrested elsewhere, the US has to prove a case is valid in the local courts for extradition to occur. This is EXACTLY how things should be working, assuming no corruption was involved in the extradition trial.
Is he related to Soda Popinski?
At least they caught him and willing to give him the justice that this crime deserves.
The US doesn't have to 'prove' anything. Pick up an extradition agreement with the US, read it through and come back to us. It is entirely procedural, as in, if he's indicted in the US, he's kidnappable from all countries that have such agreements. And such agreements are sold to the other party as the proverbial trinkets that bought Manhattan -- in exchange for the 'good will' of the US. There is virtually no reciprocity. Which is why you haven't heard a lot about people extradited from the US.
Here, ejucate yourself: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...
Last time I checked the Netherlands wasn't a part of the UK or subject to laws and agreements between the UK and US. perhaps you could provide details of when they were invaded and UK extradition process took over?
He should plead "Information wants to free" before hanging himself.
well I picked up the NETHERLANDS extradition agreement (available through google if you bothered before commenting) and as expected you are full of shit. Netherlands requires the extradition request to be reviewed by the court (unless the person has agreed to a simplified extradition). The Netherlands also has a history of REFUSING extradition requests from the US that it determines are without merit. You can also do many searches and see that the dutch court did review and approve the extradition.
im sure this thing was just one big misunderstanding
I suggest you go and inform yourself, the agreements are NOT the same, the Netherlands requires the extradition to be reviewed under dutch laws by a dutch court. The dutch have refused extraditions from the US before on grounds that the case is without merit or that they believe the person will be mistreated by US system.
TFA:
Drinkman and Smilianets were arrested at the request of the DOJ while traveling in the Netherlands in June 2012.
Let me guess, was this an all expense paid Tour of the Netherlands that Drinkman's email address Won?
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
Seriously... His name is Vladimir Drinkman. That's like every russian stereotype in a single name. Highly generic first name and then Drinkman for a last name...
"The hackers often gained initial entry through an SQL injection attack" (TFA) SQL injection? Shouldn't the "victims" be prosecuted also, for poor IT management?
Slashdot, fix the reply notifications... You won't get away with it...
No they aren't the same (though many are based on the same European extradition agreement). most countries do not just rubber stamp US requests like the UK does.
The agreements are more or less the same, from Romania to the UK, except that in the smaller countries complaints like this are usually squashed. I advised you to go read up and compare the treaties. Good to see that you choose to ignore the facts and, instead, enrich us with your 'insightful', but uninformed opinion. How American.
Extradition treaties are very seldom ratified by the senate, so while the treaty has been agreed upon it has no legal standing. It is mostly just upheld asymmetrically because smaller nations doesn't want to put up a fight with the US over some dickhead they don't care about.
Says the slashdot comic with a 7-digit ID.
So you think long time users don't create and move to new accounts? Guess again. For example new job, new account, a new account that is more at liberty to comment on the previous employer who may know or have seen the old account.
Just one of many reasons.
I misclicked and mismoderated your comment. Undo.
On-topic: not only that, but in this specific case there was also an extradition request from Russia which was quite strange, which ensured that the entire case was covered in the national media. There was a lot of suspicion that the extradition request from Russia was just to ensure he could get out of jail, using his ill-gotten profits to buy himself off.
Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
Given the state of Russia-USA relations, they probably would have given him a medal. His buddies have so far been smart enough to avoid getting arrested in a country with whom the USA has an extradition treaty.
"Kalinin, Kotov and Rytikov remain at large."
Neither the article, nor the linked PCworld article say much about how they identified these guys by name. I'd be curious to know.
Wikipedia has a nice list of countries with whom the USA has extradition treaties and there are associated PDFs.
I know that the CIA has indeed kidnapped people (extraordinary rendition is the sanitized name) from Western countries, and those countries were none too happy about it.
Normally, it's possible to fight extradition in a court. In fact, there are lawyers who specialize in this sort of thing.
Seriously, why is it that so many people in these shithole countries are happily bilking American businesses out of millions, if not billions, of dollars? I mean, sure Russia's economy has been in shambles ever since the commies fell, sure there's absolutely no domestic prosecution whatsoever of them, and sure you can probably bribe the cops in Moscow to look the other way by offering them a handle of Smirnoff, but it's not like that means hard-working Americans deserve to get hacked. Shit like this makes me think we should have just dropped the god damn nukes.
Will anybody be so kind to post a proof link of any American extradited to Russia?
A Russian named Drinkman? Wow, that's stereotyping. Hate to be pulled over for suspected DUI, also.
"the US has to prove a case is valid in the local courts for extradition to occur. "
This is not true.
You are an idiot, you spew misinformation, and you need to shut the fuck up.
And all the people who modded you up are idiots too.
By the way, I AM a lawyer. It is obvious none of you fucktards are because you
would not have modded the misinformation up.
Yeah, I'm a lawyer too, and you're clearly a fucktard as well. See all the facts I provided to prove my point? See how easy it is to make unobstantiated claims anonymously on the internet?
Can't stand this damn hypocrisy, fucking lunacy, evil going for justice? what a joke. What about the damage u.s government(ex. NSA) has done to other countries(like Iran) with their freaking viruses?