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Should a Service Robot Bring an Alcoholic a Drink?

An anonymous reader writes: We've come to a point where care robots are being used to assist people with illnesses and mobility problems. They can bring medicine, a glass of water, food, and other items that a person may have trouble getting to on their own. But what limits should we set on these robots? Should they be able to deliver alcoholic beverages? If so, should they refuse to serve them to certain people, like children or alcoholics? The issue is complicated further because these robots may have been purchased by the patient, by the doctor or hospital (which sent it home with the patient to monitor their health), or by a concerned family member who wants to monitor their relative. The latest poll research by the Open Roboethics Initiative looked at people's attitudes about whether a care robot should prioritize its owner's wishes over those of the patient.

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  1. Should a Service Robot Bring an Alcoholic a Drink? by DougOtto · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes and make sammiches.

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  2. Fridge door handle by TerryC101 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The robot shouldn't be tasked with this judgment any more that the latch on a fridge door should be asked to keep you an your diet.

    1. Re:Fridge door handle by Kjella · · Score: 5, Informative

      Do we have alcohol vending machines now?

      Actually when I studied in Germany in the school cafeteria they had beer in the soda vending machine. Good times.

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    2. Re:Fridge door handle by geekmux · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The robot shouldn't be tasked with this judgment any more that the latch on a fridge door should be asked to keep you an your diet.

      Yes, slippery slope indeed. If we humans have a hard time discerning if a person is technically "obese" (as rated by the ever-popular BMI scale), how exactly is the robot supposed to tell the difference and not serve the fat human too much food? What happens when the diabetic is served too much sugar? Who's liable? Far too much sue-the-manufacturer bullshit going on to eliminate that risk altogether. We have a long way to go with liability reform before this ever comes to light, which is sad. Yet again technology stifled by greed and politics.

    3. Re:Fridge door handle by DarkOx · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is it quite that simple? I think a machine should obey its owner to the limits of its capability to do so. For instance your laptop should not let me unlock your desktop session should it? Even if you left it with me meeting room while you went to get some water?

      It should however let you unlock it. Maybe if you have so configured it, I should be able to logon as guest and use a web browser but not install software or access your personal files.

      The care bot should be the same way. It ought to do what its owners tell it. If I buy a care bot to look after my elderly mother I would want to generally program it to obey her instructions, but maybe I would want to put in a deny list and some event triggers, like if the request includes "chocolate cake" kindly decline and remind her she is diabetic, suggest it could whip up some nice meringues dusted with coco powder if she really wants chocolate.

         

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    4. Re:Fridge door handle by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Interesting

      They do in Tokyo; I saw a vending machine there dispensing bottles of single malt whisky. The interesting comparison with my own country isn't that they have these and we don't, but that over here such a machine would not make it past the first Friday night before being trashed and robbed.

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  3. What would a Nurse Do by l0ungeb0y · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If the robot is owned and operated by a person or organization other than the patient, then the patient should have no say. I fail to see the point here. If anything, it would be very difficult to create a robot that could determine if someone is drunk, much less is a drunk. So most likely, any nursing robot would refuse to serve booze to any patient since that would be a far easier option to implement.

    1. Re:What would a Nurse Do by Rei · · Score: 5, Funny

      The summary did call the person in question the robot's owner.

      I think the robot should obey the owner's wishes and get them the drink. But it should sigh audibly when asked to and mumble under its breath while giving it to them. Maybe occasionally snipe at them in a passive-aggressive manner. "Should I cancel all productive activities that you had scheduled on your calendar for today?" "Would you like vodka in a glass or should I set it up as an IV drip into your arm?" "Would you like me to make a bunch of regrettable drunken Facebook posts for you, or would you rather do it yourself?"

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  4. Oblig. by Megahard · · Score: 5, Funny

    Human: "Get me a drink"

    Robot: "I'm sorry,sir, you've had too many."

    Human: " Sudo get me a drink"

    Robot: "Ok"

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  5. Yes by nitehawk214 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    In my state bartenders are legally obligated to not serve "visibly drunk" patrons. Though only the nicer bars actually follow this rule, and it is more in place so they can easily boot out unruly drunks or bar entry for people that are already wasted before they show up.

    A robot bartender in a commercial environment would either need to be able to follow all the same rules or be operated by someone that does.

    The question is... If you are in your own home, does the robot count as a bartender, or is it an appliance? My guess is the latter, the responsibility belongs to the operator.

    Though it would be amusing to see the door to the refrigerator refuse to open for a drunk person.
    "I'm sorry Dave, I think you have already had enough to drink."
    "Hey buddy, can you come in to my house and open my fridge for me?"

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    1. Re:Yes by nitehawk214 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Agreed, I also believe a professional bartender serving at a private party does not have these rules either.

      Either way we are years away from a completely automated robot serving in a public location without human supervision.

      Currently we are more likely to end up with this.

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  6. Re:Should a Service Robot Bring an Alcoholic a Dri by drinkypoo · · Score: 4, Funny

    But then, that's a whole other ethical bucket of fish.

    And/or sausages.

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  7. Re:Consistency by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By the time we have personal robot attendants, self-driving cars will be the norm. To drunk to drive? No problem, 'cuz you can't even drive them sober.

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  8. Re:Should a Service Robot Bring an Alcoholic a Dri by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As long as you don't demand that one provide you with sex...

    But then, that's a whole other ethical bucket of fish.

    Nobody thinks there's an ethical problem with me "forcing" my lawnmower to spin its blade and murder the grass, or torturing my refrigerator by chaining it to a wall and making it go "brrrr" all day.

    Machines do what their owners want, end of story - there are no ethical issues unless they affect other people.

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