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Banned Weight-loss Drug Could Combat Liver Disease, Diabetes

sciencehabit writes: A drug the U.S. government once branded "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption" deserves a second chance, a study of rats suggests. Researchers report (abstract) that a slow-release version of the compound reverses diabetes and nonalcoholic fatty liver disease (NAFLD), an untreatable condition that can lead to cirrhosis and liver cancer.

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  1. not fit for human consumption by Errol+backfiring · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny, I would label a rust remover "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption". Especially if by drinking it you are just begging for diabetes. But Cola is still not banned from the supermarket.

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    1. Re:not fit for human consumption by ihtoit · · Score: 4, Informative

      water isn't a rust remover, neither is sugar syrup.

      The amount of phosphoric acid used in cola is so minute it's barely detectable, but yes it is an active corrosive and yes it does cause demineralisation of tooth enamel.

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    2. Re:not fit for human consumption by jellomizer · · Score: 2

      We have had Cola for generations.... However the health conditions that we blame it for, have been on the rise just recently.

      I see the use of Corn Syrup being a bigger factor than blaming Cola.

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    3. Re:not fit for human consumption by krisbrowne42 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At least one other dangerous explosive is commonly used for regulation of heart problems already (nitro-glycerin).

    4. Re:not fit for human consumption by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And cola used to be a once a week or month treat, not a two-three times a meal and constantly between meals drink. Also reduced activity, etc.

    5. Re:not fit for human consumption by EvilSS · · Score: 4, Informative

      We have had Cola for generations.... However the health conditions that we blame it for, have been on the rise just recently.

      I see the use of Corn Syrup being a bigger factor than blaming Cola.

      Corn Syrup, increasing portion sizes, a shift to low fat, high carb diets, labeling bad fats as good and good fats as bad.... The past 50 years has not been a good period for nutritional science.

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    6. Re:not fit for human consumption by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

      Corn syrup is pretty much equivalent to sugar for our bodies.

      For some value of "pretty much". HFCS both changes the mix of the simple sugars by tilting it towards fructose, but it provides them in partially-digested form. That bypasses the normal first step of splitting glucose, and creates an immediate overload of the rest of the process.

      Our bodies were designed to store extra energy for use later. If the carbs digest slowly then they don't swamp the system and the storage systems aren't triggered. A slower release of glucose means there isn't a heavy demand for insulin to deal with it and less stress on the pancreas, and then lower stress on the cellular insulin receptors.

      It's kinda like the difference between taking a two hour walk around the park and trying to run the distance in ten minutes. If you keep making your body run the race you will wear it out faster than if you let it stroll the same distance.

  2. The drug is 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Title and summary didn't name the subject of the article, adding here.

    1. Re:The drug is 2,4-dinitrophenol (DNP) by eepok · · Score: 2

      THANK YOU!

      It's not exactly a summary if such necessary details are omitted.

  3. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 2

    > "extremely dangerous and not fit for human consumption"

    This Slashdot beta really is getting out of control.

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  4. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by gmack · · Score: 2

    Beta no longer exists.

  5. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by aardvarkjoe · · Score: 2

    And now apparently instead of at least having a sandbox to make changes in, they just dump their untested code into the main Slashdot page.

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  6. just FYI by ihtoit · · Score: 5, Informative

    The drug is dinitrophenol. From the medical texts:

    DNP is an ATP inhibitor, which means it prevents cell mitochondria from synthesising ATP from simple sugars. Taken in excess, DNP can cause cell death by starvation and organism death by hyperthermia (it causes an imbalance in the proton gradient which results in the release of large amounts of heat). The good: you'll be thin. The bad: you'll be dead. But at least you won't be cold.

    Industrial uses include a precursor to sulphur dyes, and a component in liquid and plastic explosives. The US FDA and the UK's Food Standards Agency have both condemned DNP as a dangerous industrial chemical that should not be taken internally. Doses as low as 20mg/kg (in humans) are shown to be lethal (http://dx.doi.org/10.1081%2Fclt-200058946).

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    1. Re:just FYI by omnichad · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Doses as low as 20mg/kg (in humans) are shown to be lethal (http://dx.doi.org/10.1081%2Fclt-200058946).

      That's roughly 20 times the LD50 of nicotine. And probably right in the range of lots of other useful drugs.

    2. Re:just FYI by avandesande · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The important thing to consider though is what the size of the therapeutic dose compared to a hazardous dose.

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    3. Re:just FYI by omnichad · · Score: 2

      And I didn't have a membership to view the article or I would have calculated just that.

  7. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by tlhIngan · · Score: 2

    Ok, I'd heard about BETA but never had seen it before.
    So, is this beta or just something worse till beta comes?

    No, it's not beta. Beta's a lot worse (think full of AJAX). This is really a bunch of minor tweaks that kinda-sorta broke whitepacing and other things. Which is probably why it isn't as objectionable - there are still plenty of issues (missing Post buttons and the reply link often overlaps the comments), but it works and is really a bunch of minor changes than the crap that was beta.

  8. Re:WTF with the /. Interface?!?!? by Caesar+Tjalbo · · Score: 3, Informative

    I can. It's a butt ugly standard dropdown box but it works.

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  9. Remember Thalidomide by rssrss · · Score: 2

    It was banned after it was discovered to be the cause of severe birth defects. Later it was discovered to be useful for:

    ... for a number of conditions including: erythema nodosum leprosum, multiple myeloma and a number of other cancers, for some symptoms of HIV/AIDS, Crohn's disease, sarcoidosis, graft-versus-host disease, rheumatoid arthritis and a number of skin conditions that have not responded to usual treatment.

    URL.

    Any drug that is sufficiently powerful to cure you, also has the power to hurt you. The converse is true also.

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  10. The future of medicine by jd.schmidt · · Score: 3, Interesting

    In the future, our laws and the FDA are going to have to reform to adjust to a new realty. In brief, there no bad chemicals or bad drugs, only bad uses. Medicine has been so extraordinarily good at providing near miraculous cures, that we have come to have a "magic pill" mindset. This drug magically cures this disease and is "safe". The reality of medicine is a series of tradeoffs, typically the tradeoffs are greatly to our advantage, but not always. Further, it has long been known that a drug that works for one person doesn't work for someone else. There is no doubt that targeted medicine, what I consider a subset of open source medicine, is the next critical system break through. For example, this is why it is so intriguing to be putting IBM Watson on the task of medicine, Watson will be able to analysis your personal health makeup and suggest a drug appropriate for you, along with recommended possible side effect markers to watch and even possibly test for! How do you go about regulating medicine is such an environment, in the future it will no longer make sense for the FDA to "approve" or "disapprove" a drug. Rather the most sensible course will be to monitor an accurate database of effects and make sure all the participants are following correct recording procedures, along with assuring purity of products. If you follow through this logic, you will quickly realize it calls into question the current system of patents. Where an entity has a financial interest is promoting a particular drug, it also has an interest in suppressing negative information and promoting positive. Under such circumstances it isn’t strongly in anyone personal interest, other than an illegal cartel, to promote inappropriate uses of a particular drug. Obviously some system of financial rewards/incentives need to be applied, and of course no can work for free. But just as the open source software movement hasn’t killed off software companies, nor will making a space for open source medicine kill of drug companies. Indeed the free flow of ideas has only enhanced technological progress. I hope I have convinced some of you to embrace a move to open source medicine.